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[Anonymous No.1158557]

Hey /vr/, I have some questions about FFVIII. I'm on Disc 2 and I'm gonna go to Balamb when Galbadia has taken over. So far, Squall is at Lv. 50 while the rest of the party is around 21-26.

Should I just continue playing or try to even up the levels?

Also, what are the best magic to junction stats to?

[NESfag No.1158572]

Since Squall is mandatory in the party it will be hard to even levels.

Also the game has level sacling, enemies and bosses scale to the overall level of your current party (except for one optional dungeon and one optional boss)
Enemies gets their best magics to draw as well as their best item drops at lvl 30 so you're fine with that, in other words, no reason to lvl up past lvl30. If you want to get stronger try to get more and better magics; but I find the game the most fair and interesting if you just go with the flow and do things little by little (draw a bit here and there, convert magics from items you get along the way into magic, play a bit of card to convert into magic, etc)

[Anonymous No.1158575]

Enemies scale to your level, so it's likely that the enemies are around 35 or so (the divided sum of your party's level). It would be wise to even up your levels, but you'd be better served by playing cards then modding those cards into magic so you can junction them. Junctioning is far more important than levels in this game.

[NESfag No.1158586]

Also, if your aim is to get as strong as possible, it is adviced to wait until your teach your GFs the "stat +" abitilies before doing serious leveling up.

For example once you learn STR+ or HP+, your strength and HP will gain slightly more points for each lvl (as long as it's equipped for a character)

also I said it'd be hard to even up lvls, but well, i guess you can kill Squall... that sounds pretty dumb to me though. If all you do is lvl up everybody else to 50 (without getting more magics), enemies will be lvl50 instead of your current 35 and thus the game will be harder.

[Anonymous No.1158612]

>>1158572
>>1158575
>>1158586
Lv.35, huh? I guess I'll try to avoid leveling up now.

If you considered trying to break the game trying to get strong, then yeah.

[Anonymous No.1158629]

I power leveled my characters hard because I didn't know enemies got stronger with your level, and I still breezed through the endgame. It's definitely one of the easier RPGs I've played. I suggest just playing it like any other RPG, you shouldn't have any extra difficulty. Reading into it too much will stress you out about aspects of the game that won't hamper you as much as it'll sound.

[Anonymous No.1158637]

I doubt you can even lose in FFVIII, so advice on decreasing challenge in the game is just silly.

[NESfag No.1158641]

>>1158629
>I suggest just playing it like any other RPG, you shouldn't have any extra difficulty. Reading into it too much will stress you out about aspects of the game that won't hamper you as much as it'll sound.

I agree with that. For a first playthrough just go with your flow, THEN you can try to fuck around the system as much as you want if you replay it. That's what I did, I must have replayed it like 8-10 times, and each time i'd learn something new in the gameplay or small things in the story.

[Anonymous No.1158816]

>>1158557
>Also, what are the best magic to junction stats to?

http://guides.gamercorner.net/ffviii/spells/

Personally, I have 100 full-lifes junctioned to everyone's HP. It's decent magic to junction to HP. Also, 100 triples to STR.

100 Meteors junctioned to Elem-Def gives you 150% protection from wind and earth.

[Anonymous No.1159097]

>>1158557
iiirc, enemies only scale to Squall's level. Since you can raise stats easier with junctions than levels, there's no reason for you to balance levels unless you want to.

Also, the following list is the strongest junction load out:

HP: Tornado
Str: Triple
Vit: Meltdown
Mag: Flare
Spr: Curaga
Spd: Haste
Evade: Stop
Hit%: Double
Luck: Aura

Elemental Defense: Full-Life, Ultima, Shell, Life

Status Attack: Drain
Status Defense: Holy, Esuna, Pain, Reflect

Please note that this set up isn't about maximizing each stat, it's about minimizing damage. For instance, Reflect is actually the best junction for SPR, and Ultima is good anywhere. However, with these spells buffing Elemental and Status def, you'll hardly be touched.

[Anonymous No.1159302]

God, I had forgotten what a micromanaging shitstorm of abstract concepts this whole junction thing was.

[Anonymous No.1161432]

>>1158557
>disc 2
>squall lvl 50

why ?

[Anonymous No.1163438]

>>1158637
When I first played I somehow didn't know about drawing off enemies, so made it to Lunatic Pandora with shitty stats and like 2 GFs and was fucked. I had to restart the game because I didn't keep any previous saves.

I am embarrassed by my 15 year old self.

[Anonymous No.1163543]

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http://www.final-fantasyviii.com

[Anonymous No.1163568]

>>1163438

I didnt draw from enemies and had no idea I could teach GFs new abilities on my first play through. I still had no problem beating the game, although I remember struggling on Adel. Truly one of the easiest RPGs ever, but a very fun and game breaking system.

[Anonymous No.1163593]

If you want to even up the levels petrify Squall so he doesn't earn exp. He'll also act as a distraction for enemy attacks while receiving 0 damage as apposed to if you just KO him and remove him as a target

[Anonymous No.1165385]

>>1163568
>>1163438

I had no idea about proper junctioning (just put everything to ATK) and was only teaching GFs abilities like No Encounters, GFHP+40% and all that, and I got my ass handed to me by Fujin and Raijin in Balamb Town, repeatedly, until my friend explained about junctioning.

My excuse was being 14 at the time

[Anonymous No.1165387]

>>1165385
>being 14
That's not an excuse at all.

[Anonymous No.1165389]

>>1163593

Doesn't FF8 recover petrify after battle? It's been a while, but it looks like a new strategy for doing a no-Squall run without getting destroyed in Dollet.

[Anonymous No.1165394]

>>1165387
Well I'm sticking with it

[Anonymous No.1165402]

>>1165389

Nope. Quite a few statuses stuck with you after battles.

[Anonymous No.1165415]

Make sure Rinoa is as high as Squall before Disc 3.

I got to Ragnarok with level 43 Squall and level 18 Rinoa and got my shit fucked.

[Anonymous No.1165437]

>>1165415

Really? By that time my squall could probably solo Omega. And that's just with super simple steps.

[Anonymous No.1165440]

>>1165385
>Fujin and Raijin in Balamb Town
this is by far the hardest boss battle at that point in the game. especially if you dont know how to junction right.

[Anonymous No.1165452]

>>1165440
ya know!

[Anonymous No.1165459]

>>1165440
I was 11 at the time, myself, and yeah, that was the stopping point for me. Shows me for skipping tutorials.

[Anonymous No.1166154]

compared to FF7 how good is FF8?

[Anonymous No.1166174]

>>1166154
It's either Love or Hate it. There's a good amount of people who love FFVIII, as to a huge amount of people who easily prefer VII.

I'd say try it out, and if you don't like it.. then it's not for you.

[Anonymous No.1166207]

>>1166154
It's very divisive, the only way to be sure is to play it yourself.

A lot of people really hate it and a lot of people really love it.

[Anonymous No.1166306]

>>1166154
10000% better. FF7 was a bad game. Almost all the haters haven't played it

[Anonymous No.1166313]

>>1166306
>FF7 was a bad game.
>Almost all the haters haven't played it

Color me impressed, you are being such an honest person here!

[Anonymous No.1166434]

Game is SO BROKEN.

First playthrough without even looking on net I found you could switch Zell to manual blitz...and if they radnomly give you a twelve second one...you can do like 50 attacks.

then i stole like 100 ultimas from a spring where those orange guys live...and put them on Zell's STR stat...and 9,999 x 50 = yeah.

Retarded. Why even both leveling up Squall when all you need is 100 ultimas and DUEL or BLITZ or whatever it's called to do like 50K damage to any enemy ever?

[Anonymous No.1166436]

>>1166434

correction it's 500K...I missed a zero.

but yeah...final boss dead in one DUEL with even a level like 30 Zell.

[Anonymous No.1166439]

THe reason people hate the story is because it's retared.

i remembe getting to the scene where...well i can't spoil it but it's where they all seem to remember something at the same time there.....

...yeah. that was so convuluted/pointless/stupid

plus the emo-ness of Cloud was taken to an extreme with that fag Squall. I wish Squall would just go fuck himself and let me use a party without him,.

[Anonymous No.1166445]

[Anonymous No.1166791]

>>1166207

Who loves? It's an irredeemable piece of shit. A thousand times better than any game since 10, but still.

[Anonymous No.1166795]

>>1166791

Since 9, I should have said. 10 was way worse than this. Better systems than 8 though. 8 is child's play to break.

[Anonymous No.1166820]

FF8 is stupid but nevertheless enjoyable. This includes the story, characters, setting, junction system, etc.

Stupidly enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.1166825]

>>1166439
That point in the plot is stupid but it has utterly no bearing on anything else in the story so I found it easy to ignore. It's a mystery why they even bothered. If I was going to criticize the writing I'd start with how he left Rinoa hanging off the edge of a cliff by her fingertips for a half hour while running laps around Balamb Garden and fighting enemies during the Galbadians' invasion.

>emo-ness
You know last-decade emo kids didn't actually invent the idea of personal introspection and inner monologue? I never understood people who complain about this; he's about 50 times less dramatic than everyone else in the game. Is it because he's not sociable? Or he thinks too much? Or because he wears black?

[Anonymous No.1166849]

>>1166825
Yeah I never got why people keep calling him emo either. If you read his thoughts he actually makes a lot of sense.
Doesn't emos want attention and pity because no one understands them? Squall wants none of that, he just wants to be alone as far as I understand.

I find Laguna pretty hilarious though!

[Anonymous No.1166990]

[Anonymous No.1166996]

>>1166990

>not including any of his self-pitying, self-obsessed internal monologues or the stiff, socially awkward bullshit when women are throwing themselves at him and he angsts his way out of pussy and has to be literally trapped in the dangerous yawning vacuum of space with a girl he can't get away from before he responds to simple signals

Seriously anon, that's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.1167005]

>>1166996
Sure he is socially akward and thinks a lot of things but he sure have humour.

He is not an emo though in the sense that he goes around fishing for pity and attention.

[Anonymous No.1167018]

>>1167005

>but he sure have humour

[citation needed]

his self-obsessed pity party alone makes him an emo. Doubly so because he's actually very attractive and has women throwing themselves at him. He's like an emo fuck singing about how 'dehumanizing' it is to get your cock sucked by some gorgeous teenage Eurogurl who likes shit music.

Some emo actually did a song about something like this. Don't remember who.

[Anonymous No.1167025]

>>1167018
So you're emo just because you don't like women throwing yourself at you?
Well I much prefer a quiet reserved hero like Squall or Cloud than some arrogant guy who is all about banging chicks. Luckily there is room for all kinds of heroes in video games, something for everyone. I just don't think the term "emo" as I've grown up fits Squall. Now Tidus, that's one whiny kid, I guess he lacks the clothing style to be a true Emo though.

[Anonymous No.1167034]

>>1167025
the term "emo" as I've grown up with

[Anonymous No.1167035]

>>1167025

>creating a false binary

Good job. Yes, either a hero has to be a standoffish emo piece of shit like Squall (don't even pretend he's anything like Cloud (Cloud in the original game at least, not the recent version from that shit movie)) or he has to be a pussy-ruining dudebro. He can't be a complicated human being who behaves like an actual person without spending all their time feeling bad and being angsty about fucking nothing and for no fucking reason.

[Anonymous No.1167071]

Squall isn't emotional, he's repressing all his emotions because he doesn't want to feel or appear vulnerable. He's a really insecure guy, yo.

[Anonymous No.1167075]

>>1167035
>angsty about fucking nothing and for no fucking reason.

He doesn't enjoy being around people. It isn't angst and it's not that uncommon. The only thing he gets upset over in the game are Rinoa and having been raised an orphan.

Also, why are you so angry? It's weird reading complaints about angst in fiction when all your posts sound like you're about to gnaw your keyboard apart and cry yourself to sleep.

[Anonymous No.1167080]

hot dogs

[Anonymous No.1167086]

>>1167080
People who like Zell's character are good people. People who don't are trying too hard.

[Anonymous No.1167106]

>>1167035
No but what is it that makes Squall an emo then? To me it sounded like you think he is an emo because he ignores all those women (2 in total?) throwing themselves at them.
Sure he has some angsty thoughts but so does most teenagers. The thing is he doesn't say any of this a loud, he doesn't fish for attention or try to get people to feel sorry for him which is what makes en emo in my eyes.

[Anonymous No.1167109]

>>1167086
Zell should get his own game!

[Anonymous No.1167152]

Please stop shitting up my /vr/ with these asinine conversations.

[Anonymous No.1167164]

>>1167152
Classic. Asinine. Haven't heard that one in a while.

(Lunar sucks.)

[Anonymous No.1167165]

>>1167018
>has women throwing themselves at him
And he got together with one.

[Anonymous No.1167170]

>>1167165

Yes, after blowing her off and acting like it was a painful experience even though it was his fault, and when the vacuum of space prevented him from getting away from her.

Also don't forget Selphie, who he could have fucked with no effort whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.1167171]

>>1167086
>liking that chicken wuss

[Anonymous No.1167176]

>>1167170
>Also don't forget Selphie, who he could have fucked with no effort whatsoever.
>Selphie
You mean Quistis.

[Anonymous No.1167180]

>>1167176

No I mean Selphie. Quistis was practically climbing his dick within the first couple hours of the game.

[Anonymous No.1167183]

>>1167170
So because they didn't get together from the beginning, he's emo? They didn't want anything to do with each other at first and Rinoa still wasn't over Seifer.

[Anonymous No.1167189]

>>1167180
When did Selphie show interest in Squall?

[Anonymous No.1167191]

>>1167183

Yes. Feel free to pretend that's what I said.

Also, Rinoa is an annoying, stupid, mentally ill girlchild who any self-respecting man would hatefuck once or twice and never talk to again. In that way I guess she's kind of perfect for 'poor me I'm so attractive and talented my life is empty'.

[Anonymous No.1167192]

>>1167189

Did she have to? You don't think a person who is clearly a mental defective wouldn't be really easy to fuck if you were even remotely good-looking?

[Anonymous No.1167203]

>>1167191
What are you even arguing about?

[Anonymous No.1167206]

>>1167203

People defending anything about this horrid game as interesting or good apart from the art design.

[Anonymous No.1167213]

>>1167206
Ok then.

[Anonymous No.1167216]

>>1167086
He was my favourite as well. His simple, outgoing character really stood out in the general emotional gloominess.

[Anonymous No.1167215]

>>1167206
People have different opinions and tastes. So this game wasn't for you, but it does have a fairly large fanbase.

[Anonymous No.1167231]

>>1167215

Liking it doesn't make it good. I enjoy some shitty movies intensely.

Also I suspect most of the fanbase for this game are people who also think that any FF since 9 has any respectability or value.

[Anonymous No.1167242]

>>1167231
>Also I suspect most of the fanbase for this game are people who also think that any FF since 9 has any respectability or value.
And how did you come to that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.1167261]

>>1167231
Not really, that's where it started getting shitty. 4 through 8 are the best in the series. IX is just a rehash of tired ideas from earlier games to placate people who got frustrated over 7 and 8 being something besides token JRPG fantasy schlock.


>>1167242
It's easier to feel good about your own opinions when you have a mental caricature of the people you're arguing with and you can invalidate their ideas with things they never said.

[Anonymous No.1167264]

>>1167231
I'm curious too. You are very quick to judge, which says a lot about you really.
Why isn't liking it enough though? That is the shittiest arguement I have ever heard.
I play games to be entertained, if I like something I'm very entertained and that makes it a very good product to me.
I don't need someone's approval to think something is good.

[Anonymous No.1167276]

>>1166436
>>1166434
Zell is the best.

[Anonymous No.1167371]

[Anonymous No.1167713]

>>1166825

no, because he's a hard-gay who smokes wangs like cigars for breakfast (a whole sack of 'em)

[Anonymous No.1167734]

>>1167216

I think maybe the 500K Zell glitch wasn't even a glitch at all. I think the programmers were REVOLTING from the writers with this "glitch".

I now believe that the programmers made Zell a super-saiyan because he's chill and fun and has fucking mike tyson tats on his fucking face.

While...they made Squall suck and due to him never being able to leave your god damned party (except briefly in jail and the final d). They are trying to show with having this fool prermenantly in your party that he's a piece of unremovable EMO CANCER.

Zell is 500K man who eats hot-dogs all day, picks up chicks who can't read at the library and kills the final boss in one single attack.

[Anonymous No.1171368]

final fantasy 8?

more liek final fantasy gayt.

[Anonymous No.1171373]

>>1158557

Levels mean very little in this game.

[Anonymous No.1171378]

>>1171368
HAHAHA wow oh man what a sick joke thanks man

[Anonymous No.1171379]

>>1171368
final fantasy gayt?

more liek final fantasy troll bayt
more liek final fantasy straight
more liek final fantasy is gr8 m8

[Anonymous No.1171421]

>>1158557
Best feature of FF8..... the card game

[Anonymous No.1171435]

>>1171378
thank you thank you thank you. i'll be here all week, remember to tip your waitress.

[Anonymous No.1171446]

>>1171435
Nice touch with the FF6. Ultros always was an interesting fight!!

[Anonymous No.1171453]

>>1171379

more liek Emo Pomgran8s.

[Anonymous No.1171460]

>>1171453
more liek ff7 fanboy h8

[Anonymous No.1171464]

Ok listen har har...why does Squall need to wear two belts?

[Anonymous No.1171468]

>>1171464

because he's a fag?

[Anonymous No.1171474]

>>1171464
Done emo kids wear 2 belts that support nothing???

[Anonymous No.1171475]

>>1171468
No.

To keep his pants from falling down! Har har har.

[Anonymous No.1171480]

>>1171475
You're on fire tonight Ultros!

[Anonymous No.1171490]

>>1171480
Its your world man, im just a octopus tryin too get a nut

[Anonymous No.1171494]

>>1171480

thank you thank you. I get no respect you know? no respect at all...thank you for that, thank you. I'm in rough shape, i'm in rought shape, i'm tellin' ya.

say....what's Rinoa's favorite Junction?

[Anonymous No.1171509]

>>1171494

her vagina?

[Anonymous No.1171516]

>>1171494
I don't know, do tell!

[Anonymous No.1171520]

>>1171509
No.

Her Petticoat Junction.

HAR HAR HAR! Oh I kill myself, I really do. I kill me. I kill me.

[Anonymous No.1171524]

>>1171520
You're not on fire tonight Ultros, you're on fira! Let's see if you can make it to firaga!

[Anonymous No.1171527]

>>1171373
I didn't know that in my first play through. I was levelling up in Balamb Garden and suddenly the T-Rex monsters learned counter attack. I got buttraped.

[Anonymous No.1171530]

>>1171421
Tetra Master > Triple Triad

[Anonymous No.1171540]

>>1171524

Oh, oh. I'm telling you, i'm telling you. I'm in rough shape rough shape...I'm tellin' ya.

Hey, how come Squall is so lonely?

[Anonymous No.1171550]

>>1171540

[Anonymous No.1171557]

>>1171540

Because he has a small weinie?

[Anonymous No.1171558]

>>1165385
Are you me? That is, without a doubt, the defining point of the game. If you've been playing it backwards (as expected if you started with Final Fantasy VII and relied too much on summons), you're probably going to get your ass handed when you fight Fujin and Raijin. I did manage to get past those two, but that battle forced me to review the concept of junction completely and exploit Disc 3 before engaging Adel otherwise I would have been stuck there.

[Anonymous No.1171561]

>>1171558
>use summon against Adel
>murder rinoa
>game over

Worth it

[Anonymous No.1171562]

>>1171557
No.

Because he can't land a GF.

Ooooooh ho ho ho ho hahahahhaah. HAR HAR HAR.

Get it? A GF? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh I crack myself up. Oh my goodness.

Old Ulty has to go kids....and to that lady who went to take a shit during my act...way to a fucking go lady. Thanks for throwing off my timing, that was real polite of ya.

I tell you I'm in rough shape.

[Anonymous No.1171563]

>>1165387
Actually, it is. No one is going to tear the junction system apart if it's the first time they are playing the game, if they are still young not to completely grasp the abstract concept and possibilities of the junction system and if they're not using a walkthrough (or lurking boards/forums) to aid them.

If you had some experience with RPGs previous to playing with FFVIII, I can understand why being 14 might not be an excuse since you should grasp the combat system more easily since you're likely used to adapting. But in any other situation, it's a perfectly valid excuse.

[Anonymous No.1171565]

>>1171558

why didn't you just put Zell in your party and beat them both in one attack like everyone else did?

[Anonymous No.1171567]

>>1171563
They give you half a dozen tutorials in the first hour explaining exactly how it works though.

[Anonymous No.1171568]

>>1171562
I applaud you Ultros! I hope to catch your next gig aswell! A good night to you!

[Anonymous No.1171579]

>>1171565
What are you talking about? I didn't even exploit limit breaks in my first playthrough because I couldn't afford to have my characters in yellow as it could kill them if the boss used its most powerful attack. Besides, I didn't know about Zell's brokenness back then.

[Anonymous No.1171582]

>>1171579
Yeah same, english is also not my mother language and I don't think 12 year old me bothered to try to understand the tutorials.

[Anonymous No.1171589]

>>1171562
Goodnight sweet prince

[Anonymous No.1171590]

>>1171579

don't need yellow...it's a percent chance under a certain amount to get the white arrow...at yellow it's like 95% though.

but if you're at like 70% HP and keep pressing "next char" and refresh his screen over and over it'll let you do his move...

[Anonymous No.1171593]

>>1171567
And? Just because you understood it, doesn't mean you'll be able to use it properly and in a game-broking way. People who say it did on the first playthrough are very seasoned in RPGs, have above average cognitive capacity that generally gets them thinking outside the box (perfect for RPGs such as FF8) or are liars. Everyone else who mastered the junction system did it out of experience (such as myself) or by reading FAQs and boards/forums posts.

[Anonymous No.1171596]

>>1171582
Pretty much my problem too. I couldn't decode those tutorials because back then I didn't speak English very well and it was a bit too technical.

[Anonymous No.1171602]

>>1171593
There's an auto button man. You click it and the game does the junctioning for you. What's so hard?

[Anonymous No.1171606]

>>1171590
continued...

for me literally that game was getting Zell's STR/HP/SPD up and then just pressing triangle (or square i forget) to refresh his menu screen until a little white arrow appeared next to attack...and then the any and all fights were over.

[Anonymous No.1171625]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/197343-final-fantasy-viii/42778234

Someone calculated the max you can do with Duel in one attack and it's...

3.5 MILLION

comparing Zell to Squall is like comparing Goku to Yamcha.

[Anonymous No.1171637]

>>1171602
The game rewards you for using GFs at first. Let me lay this out for you.

1. I get 3 GFs at the very beginning of the game. My max party is 3 characters.
2. I can use my GFs to shield me from attacks. Extra damage allowed.
3. My GF ATB meter is reduced the more I use them. Incentive to use them more and more.
4. GF's abilities are set to GF HP +10% or GF Max Dam +10%. If I'm using GFs, I'm going to start maxing out these.
5. The very first boss I'm told to use Shiva, another GF. So the game is already implying I should rely on GFs.
6. I draw magic, but because I don't know that the amount of drawn magic is linked to my MAG stat, I'm drawing about 3 or 4 spells. Tedious and boring.
7. I'm not using Triple Triad at first because I don't have good cards and some places have complex rules that make the thing difficult. I need to wait until I get GF cards to start exploring Triple Triad.

This is pretty much the mindset that is imposed to the player in the first playthrough. It's wrong but it's how the game plays with you for sticking to conventional rules. Basically the game shits all over you and penalizes you for not exploring it properly and taking things at face value. Use the Auto button all you want. If you have crap-tier magic, it's not gonna change anything.

[Anonymous No.1171645]

>>1171637
Using GF also makes your Seed Rank go down quicker

[Anonymous No.1171648]

>>1171645
>implying anyone gives a fuck about the SeeD rank in the first playthrough..

[Anonymous No.1171653]

>>1171648
Bitch I gotsta get PAID

[Anonymous No.1171720]

Using Zell is easy mode.

[Anonymous No.1171716]

>>1171648
Fuck bitches, acquire SeeD rank

[Anonymous No.1171719]

>>1171625
Impressive, but it does assume max strength and luck against no defense.

[Anonymous No.1171730]

>>1171719

still what's Squall max in one attack? 10K?

Zells' possible max is in the millions.

ask vegeta what the scouta sez bout those power levels.

[Anonymous No.1171732]

>>1171719
Well duh, it's theoretical.

[Anonymous No.1171743]

>>1171719
Max strength is easy. No-Level with STR Bonus until 99 should get Zell within the range to get 255 STR by junctioning Meteor. If not, Ultima should take care of it. No Defense is simple. Just use Meltdown. Luck is a bit more complicated unless you have the will and time to burn hunting down those Curse Spikes.

[Anonymous No.1171745]

>>1171716
Why is the D capital?

[Anonymous No.1171764]

>>1171745

because then people would say seeds like in the garden. but SeeD is like CD. it's kinda gay...should've named the elite high school fighting force GayDee.

[Anonymous No.1171779]

>>1171764
Waaaaaaaaaaat, I never thought of pronouncing it like CD, I just thought it was a way to know they were talking about SeeD as in people from Garden, kinda like a name for them, and not seed which grows into plants in a garden. I mean they go with the whold garden thing, why would they have it pronounced as CD? But I guess it makes sense, as they could have just used Seed. Hmmm weird!

[Anonymous No.1171780]

>>1171764
It's pronounced "Seed" like the seed from a fruit, dumbass.

>gay
Underage detected.

[Anonymous No.1171786]

>>1171764
But they are seeds in a garden. That's why the schools are called Gardens. Numbnuts.

I reckon it's just the way Ultimecia pronounced it, the way she emphasises letters in words and someopne just took that literally in case she flayed him alive.

[Anonymous No.1171793]

Why are all these weaklings talking about "millions of damage" like it's a big deal?

[Anonymous No.1171796]

>>1171793
Take that weeaboo shit elsewhere

[Anonymous No.1171798]

>>1171796
You're thinking of Neptunia and the PS3 Atelier games.

[Anonymous No.1171797]

>>1171745
Thats how i roll

[Anonymous No.1171806]

if it was seed like in the garden it would have been written "seed"

but it's not it is written to pronounced as CD.

[Anonymous No.1171820]

>>1171530
Simply put, no.

[Anonymous No.1171823]

>>1167171
WHAT DID YOU CALL ME!?

[Anonymous No.1171824]

>>1171820
>The Random rule has spread through this region

Your argument is invalid

[Anonymous No.1171828]

>>1171806
>SeeD (シード, Shīdo?) is the name of a mercenary force founded by Cid and Edea Kramer in Final Fantasy VIII.
>What is Stylization?
Tell me, what's the name of that game with the purple jester thing? Nijeeaychteeess?

[Anonymous No.1171829]

>>1171824
Oh, I see. You suck at it.

[Anonymous No.1171841]

>>1171828
Cid + Edea = Cidea

CD

Faggert.

[Anonymous No.1171845]

>>1171828
FF9?

[Anonymous No.1171848]

>>1171845
NiGHTs.

[Anonymous No.1171894]

>>1171841
What's your point?

[Anonymous No.1172070]

>>1171894

LOLOLOLOL DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS.

No but seriously, it's pronounced CD like the media.

[Anonymous No.1172210]

>>1172070
I don't think it is. Going by this >>1171828, it would be シーディー if it's supposed to sound like CD, not シード.

[Anonymous No.1172697]

>>1159097
Disregard a lot of this. The best setup for maxing out your stats, which is what matters, is the following:

HP: Ultima (+6000 HP; bypasses the need to use HP Bonus for several characters to attain max HP)
STR: Meteor (+75 STR; the second best after Ultima)
VIT: Meltdown (+80 VIT; again, the second best)
MAG: Flare (+44 MAG; the fifth best, but all other options will be better applied in other things that are more crucial than MAG; disregard this if you're using Rinoa's Angel wing - you'll want to maximize MAG if you're using it)
SPR: Reflect (+72 SPR; third best, but you'll want to use Full-Life someplace else)
SPD: Triple (+70 SPD; best one, not even Ultima touches this one)
Evade: Tornado (+13 EVD; third best)
Hit: Double (+40; fourth best)
Luck: Aura (+60; second best after Ultima)

Elemental Defense: Full-Life, Shell, Life and Protect (+90% damage reduction for ALL elemental damage and +10% damage absorption for Fire, Thunder and Ice)

Status Defense: Pain, Death, Confusion and Berserk (you'll be vulnerable to Zombie, Sleep, Petrify, Slow and Stop but none of these things can wreck your party; you'll be completely immune against Poison, Darkness, Silence, Curse, Berserk, Death, Confusion; feel free to switch them around depending on what enemy you're fighting).

[Anonymous No.1172712]

>>1172070
It's pronounced "sid". See >>1172210 etc. The guy knows what he's talking about, "shi-do" is "seed", "CD" is "shi-di-".

[Anonymous No.1172716]

>>1172697
Guys, why are you minmaxing in the single easiest game in the whole series?

[Anonymous No.1173405]

>>1172716
they aren't even doing it right too. you can max hp, str, vit, mag and spr without junctioning anything. it just takes a long time to buy and refine everything.

[NESfag No.1173416]

>>1173405
There IS a trick to get as much money as you want though (buy something that you can then sell at a higher price), so it really IS just a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.1173441]

>>1173416
i know. i calculated it for all six characters one time. you need several billion gil

[Anonymous No.1173460]

>>1173405
I remember being 12 and wanting to do that in FFVIII. I believe that people doing this kind of thing in JRPGs, including "completionists", have the mindset of a 12 year old boy.

[Anonymous No.1173468]

>>1173460
1000 Str-J Scroll -> 100 Power Wrist -> 10 Hyper Wrist -> 1 Str Up
Total cost: 10,000,000 gil

[NESfag No.1173491]

>>1173468
>>1173460
Yeah it would take several days just to buy/sell items and refine in order to max out everything. How boring.

That is why the best solution is to NOT lvlup your characters until your GFs learn the STR+, SPR+, Mag+ etc abilities, then set them to one character and lvl them up one character at a time in order to get the stat bonuses for everyone. That's still incredibly boring though but not as much as spending several days solely in shops and refining menues....

[Anonymous No.1173501]

>>1173491
>This is why the best solution is to not minmax in such a ridiculously easy game as Final Fntasy VIII.
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.1173516]

Im sure there are all sorts of junction arrangements to break the game but aura+meltdown by itself turns every boss into a joke

[Anonymous No.1173607]

>>1172716
seriously. it's nuts.

the only one thing you need to do to beat this game is make one variable change in Zell's status screen and it's literally over.

[Anonymous No.1174084]

>>1173491
Doing a no level up game is a lot easier and less time consuming than people think. Just get 5 Abyss Worm cards and buy 10 Tents and you instantly have a broken character than can carry on the game on its own.

Then fight the fixed Elnoyle encounter in Esthar to level up Squall and Quistis, separately using the Bonus abilities until they get to level 100. Should take no more than 6 hours, maybe even less. Finally travel to Island Closer to Hell and use Degenerator to level up the remaining 4 characters. Takes about 10 hours, tops, and your characters will be nearly maxed out. Much less time consuming than any other FF.

[Anonymous No.1174108]

>>1173607
If you're implying you switch Zell's limit to auto, nothing can contain your pleb.

[Anonymous No.1174112]

>>1173501
Play it without junctioning anything to stats. It becomes much, much harder.

[Anonymous No.1175206]

>>1174108

i thought it started on auto, no? You piece of human garbage.

[Anonymous No.1175312]

>1999+14
>not playing triple triad online

[Anonymous No.1175337]

>>1171558
>but that battle forced me to review the concept of junction completely and exploit Disc 3 before engaging Adel

I'm pretty sure you ARE me. This is exactly what happened.

>Get to Balamb
>Get ass destroyed by Fujin and Raijin
>Learn junctioning
>Having a pretty good time
>Get to Adel
>Fight her once
>Get ass handed to me
>Spend a bunch of time on Island Closest to Hell drawing tonnes of high level magic
>Destroy Adel

I like how even though the game level scales, there's still hard bosses.

[Anonymous No.1175384]

>>1175337

no. there's not.

there's zell and there's aura and theres meltdown and all sorts of over-nuked stuff.

[Anonymous No.1175419]

>>1175384
>Being this much of a faggot

And by the time you have all this stuff, you've passed much of the more difficult bosses

[Anonymous No.1175426]

Get the strategy guide (or print a magic junction FAQ) and abuse the junctioning system. All you need to do is have your GFs learn various magic refining abilities, then use those to refine items (or low level magic) into high level magic.

Since the game uses a para leveling system, enemies level up as you do. What you want to do is avoid leveling on purpose to keep enemies consistently weak, and abuse junctioned stats to make your party overpowered for every situation.

The second thing you want to abuse is limit breaks. You can either use aura to keep spamming Renzokuken, or use the select-cancel trick while your party's HP is low. What you do is cancel a character's turn when their command window appears, and when it reappears, there's a chance their limit break will become available.

[Anonymous No.1175726]

I'd always use HP-J and STR-J on Squall to get his HP and strength massive then keep his HP low (still around the max HP of the other party members) and spam renzokuken

[Anonymous No.1175824]

Fuck you know what I did as a GF spamming 12 year old when Fujin/Raijin burned me? I levelled to 99. So much rage. Anyway, then I won with Zell, strolled through Edel, took on Ulty once then gave up.

[Anonymous No.1176783]

>>1175824
Ultimecia isn't that hard if your party has, at least, 100 meteor junctioned in elem-def. That covers her last two final forms' most powerful attacks.

After that, just make sure you have a lot of Auras.

Having Quistis in your party with a bunch of Auras ready (so she can use white wind) is very helpful.

Then just spam renzokuken. She goes down quicker if you spam ultima as well. Even quicker if you spam triple ultimate with at least one person in your party.