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DOOM THREAD

Last thread >>1145561

Discuss WADs, stories, projects, ask for recommendations, suggest ideas, etc; don't be shy, we're here to help! We have many projects going, and if you want to share your maps or join in whatever thing you may want feel free to do it

If you know about some projects we don't, don't even hesitate to share 'em with us!

======WEBSITE (WITH TONS OF COOL DOOM STUFF, BE SURE TO CHECK THIS SHEIT) ======
http://vrdoom.weebly.com/

FAQ/Pastebin, still updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3

=====NEWS======

-We're two months away from the biggest event of the year - The Cacowards! Who are your nominees?

-Have you tried our very own gameplay mod yet? Spare some minutes and go give FKER a try, you won't regret it!

-Bethesda, for once, is doing something right; go check the Doom-related stuff in their store http://store.bethsoft.com/brands/doom.html

-More than 2 months ago a Doom tournament took place at Quakecon and these were the finals (Jkist3 VS DevastatioN). YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS SHIT! WORLD CLASS DOOMING! http://youtu.be/hcSj0lk-vEo

-No, you're not hallucinating, Zandronum updated itself to 1.2. http://zandronum.com/download

-OBLIGE v5.10 (WIP) here http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=289 Go wild

-Latest ZDL (v3.2.2.2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?eq4zyb6k8c0o6nc

-Cool ZDoom works you should check: "Pirate Doom" (recently updated), "Project MSX", "The Adventures of Square", "Cyberrunner", "The Space Pirate", "The Guncaster", and "The Trailblazer" (last 6 under WIP). Check the Projects section of the ZDoom forums for more info.

===COMMUNITY===
##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

IRC channel: irc.zandronum.com, channel #vr
The password is in the FAQ.

Best Single Player WADS of 2013 (so far) - If you want pure vanilla maps go check this list!
http://i.imgur.com/yeSiyQo.jpg
http://pastebin.com/XSVn3zzJ

>> No.1154795

First for Hexen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7SXFJNLJis

>> No.1154872
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1154872

My milkshape skills are rusty as fuck. It's been about 10 years since I made anything in this. Maybe it's time to upgrade to something better like Blender?

>> No.1154918 [DELETED] 
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>blowing up a large group of zombies with tnt

>> No.1154919
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1154919

I messed the head size but whatever, it was just my second try.
She kinda remembers me of Annie from Attack on titan

>> No.1154936

>>1154795

Become good at Hexen and then we'll talk

>> No.1154943

>>1154789

Should of been >Doomguycorpse

>> No.1154949

>>1154943
>he doesn't get the joke

imp lying

>> No.1154952
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1154952

Neato

>> No.1154953

>>1154919
Looks good

Lydia x Cyberrunner OTP

>> No.1154961
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>>1154919
MFW no Bren-Ten

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>>1154919

You guy are making it hard for me to AAAAAAAAAAAA

Also hey guys

>> No.1154971
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1154971

eee-e-ea-ei-eia-eeeaeeiaeia-eie SNRRRRK

>> No.1154973
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>>1154919
OH MUH GAWD. I friggen love it!

>> No.1154974
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>>1154919

You guys are making it real hard for me to AAAAAAAAAAAA

Also hey guys

>> No.1154982
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1154982

>hey bro d'ya like bullets?

>> No.1154983

>>1154973
>>1154953
Argh, forgot the earrings! But thanks.

>>1154961
mfw the gun I drew doesn't even exist

>> No.1154990

Is the pistol in Doom based on a real pistol, or a toy or what?

I know the single-shotgun is based on a toy.

>> No.1154994
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>>1154983
MFW looks like a PPK

>>1154990
Beretta 92

>> No.1154996

>>1154990
Honestly it looks like a baretta, at least I always thought it was.

>> No.1155032

From what wad is the first map on this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tpPp6cWScw

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>>1154974

Oh hi there bro what's AAAAAAAAAAA?

>> No.1155052

http://static.best-ever.org/wads/samsara-v0.3_dukeshotgun.pk3

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>>1154872
I use Maya. There are cracked versions all over the place. Best modeler I've used. But if you're not doing animations at all I'd look into Wings 3D. It's free and easy to model/uv/texture in, and if nothing needs animated it's definitely easier/faster than milkshape imo.

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>>1155058
(pic wasn't related - this one is slightly more related). I meant to add: For organic shit I'd go with zBrush, or Sculptris(free). But for just converting to voxels it's probably not necessary to sculpt anything. But it's fun.
doublepostsage

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>>1155050

Evening comrade, shouldn't you be at work pissing off doomers?

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>>1155083
>>1155050
Oh hey guys, I'm having a bonfire tonight wanna coAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA

>> No.1155092

I just want to ask. Does anyone here remember or know of pyewad? It was on Skulltag.

It was easily one of the most fun DM servers I ever went on. The last time it was updated was probably 07/08.

The map rotation was great they were all fun and very different. Went from a room where you're supposed to be a mouse, to a canyon level, to a snowball fight, to an airplane, to trench warfare, to the Starship Enterprise, and more.

I played on this server every night when it was up. Then it stopped and became outdated with skulltag. Just curious if anyone here would remember

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=15462
This was the last version of the .wad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE3uTSR3vU4
I found this video too of one of the maps.

>> No.1155095
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>>1155084

A bonefire sounds nice

>> No.1155104 [DELETED] 

>zandronum
>not odamex
>zdoom
>not zdaemon

horrid bad casuals

>> No.1155110 [DELETED] 

Do not reply to the post above

>> No.1155137

>>1155083

It's acctually my off shift.

>>1155084
Sounds fun, What time is it AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

>> No.1155159
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>>1155110
Someone couldn't avoid a revenant's fireball.

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1155192

What the hell is this retard doing? It's a fucking imp not a neuroscientist.

>> No.1155193

>>1154789
God damn that picture is hilarious.

>> No.1155204

>>1155192
>not a neuroscientist

How do you fucking know that?
For all you know he could be Dr. Lucifer-Satan von Bonecrusher, PhD with honors.

Do you know how fucking hard it is to wire shit up to the Revenants, Cyberdemons, and Mancs?

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1155209

>>1155204

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>>1155209

YOU MONSTER

>> No.1155218

>>1155209
rip in peace dr lucifer-satan von boncrusher phd with honors

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>>1155225
>archviles have mouths

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1155239

Something is wrong with this Arch-vile.

>> No.1155247
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1155247

No one is doing shit.

>> No.1155250

>>1155247
Lord Almighty someone save the fucking Dr.

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1155252

>>1155236

The digitization horrendously fucked up the archvile model, it should really look like this

>> No.1155253

>>1155247
probably because there loos like there is no room to resurrect the imp, the ceiling looks too low.

>> No.1155254

>>1155252
>pissed off martian

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>>1155236
they look a bit like beavis too

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>> No.1155281

>>1154971
I hate that game, because I was gonna scare my little sister with it.
Sure she was scared as hell...
But she fucking PUNCHED the ghost girl one her first try...

>> No.1155316

>>1154936
Actually, here's the deal, if you fail a parry enemies deal extra damage and you're stuck for one second. Well, at least that's how it was when the video was uploaded.

>> No.1155351

One week left for halloween.
Can someone draw some cute Cacolanterns playing with other Cacos???

>> No.1155359

http://couldntevaderevenantsfireball.ytmnd.com/

>> No.1155371
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1155371

Got some more work done here, along with a WIP hud. Will hopefully have some interior shots soon.

>> No.1155378

>>1155359
Dat scream.

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>>1155058
>>1155063
Sorry for the late response, I went out for dinner. I haven't used maya in a looong time, and I can't recall if I even liked it. I do know a little bit about blender, I made a basic sword for Oblivion using it. Milkshape was the first 3d editor I dabbled with, mostly because of the excellent support for games at the time. I think I'll give some of those others you suggested a try, especially sculptris and zbrush. DAT ASS

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>> No.1155410

>>1155402
sexy

>> No.1155478

>>1155410
Go play it.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=10386

>> No.1155483

>>1155169
>>1155184
>>1155192
name of wad please?

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>>1155402
>>1155371

>> No.1155489

>>1155483
The Darkening

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=9907

>> No.1155516

Hey SKS. I'm thinking about modeling a colt revolver carbine. I was curious if you had any decent pics of them. Model 1855 (thinking maybe a .36 caliber modified for a .38 rounds, but I dunno if I'm going to bother getting that detailed or not)

Also: Anything you'd like modified from the original design? Blast shields? I'd ask /k/, but fuck that place. I don't want to hear "Model a better gun" or hear about how there aren't blast shields made for a gun that age or purist nonsense.

Sage for off topic. though when I'm done I could probably make some doom sprites for it easy enough.

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>>1153950
It may be but there are tons of Doom wads out there and I wanna fight demons as a bear.

>> No.1155549

>>1155540
>not punching demons with your bear hands

>> No.1155556
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1155556

It's a bit suspicious, isn't it?

>> No.1155557

>>1155540
I wonder if you can fake it so when you look down you can see your front paws. Until you attack then you get a little taller and looking down just shows your back legs. probably only able to see them in GZDoom though since software doesn't let you look that far.

>> No.1155558
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1155558

Gonna need a good name for a terraforming and planetary/extra-terrestrial research organization or something.

>> No.1155562

>>1155556
It's fine... don't be such a silly nancy.

>>1155558
Zenith Landscaping Services - Building Your Home Away From Home

>> No.1155565

>>1155351
Not a bad Idea, actually I wish Alice or how it's called the jap girl who made Kusok had think that.
I can give it a try, though.

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>>1155562
Too late.

>> No.1155635

>>1155393
>>1154973

Who's Lydia and what is name of the mod you are posting screens from in the old thread? I checked all the mods mentioned in the OP pasta but none of those seemed to be it. Is it gonna be a full TC?

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>> No.1155642

I'm sort of getting my feet wet in programming, and I've known for a long time Doom and I think Quake both have their source code released to the public. What exactly does that mean, however? I can just download the source code, stick it in a compiler, and run the game?

I was hoping to take a working game and modify the coding to make something new, would it be possible to do that as an amateur programmer for Doom or Quake?

>> No.1155650

>>1155642
>What exactly does that mean, however? I can just download the source code, stick it in a compiler, and run the game?
Well, you would be missing the sounds, levels, and art, but yes.

>I was hoping to take a working game and modify the coding to make something new, would it be possible to do that as an amateur programmer for Doom or Quake?
Yes.

>> No.1155657

>>1155642
Look at it and decide for yourself.

It's possible, sure, but do you have the motivation to bother?

>> No.1155669

Hey /vr/, look who just posted a small mapset

www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1208501

It was done by Mouldy, so I hope you're mentally prepared before playing this

>“Who is Mouldy and why should I care?”

Mouldy did The Eye, a one-level Cacoward winner. While the /idgames entry describes it as “A fairly tough single map”, in reality it is a “balls to the fucking walls, be prepared to be tied to a cactus chair while giving a listen to the whole William Shatner discography” kind of map.

Now, back to topic. In its own words, this is a set of “small, fairly hard maps with high body-counts, and gameplay I would describe as chaotic-evil”. That means, prepare to rage and cry tears of blood since MAP01

Good luck my friends

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>>1155635
Lydia is the main character in the mod I'm working on. Yes it will be a "TC" but I'm not really sure if I'll change the balance of the weapons too terribly much. I won't be using any of the Doom art or sound assets because I want it to be as original as possible. Namewise, I haven't come up with anything cool yet. I was thinking something like "Lethal Injection" since it deals with psychotic drugs or something along those lines, but nothing is set in stone yet. Lydia herself is "done" as she has a complete spriteset, weapon hands, mugshot, and sounds. She even has a unique pistol and her own class so she doesn't overwrite the marine. Feel free to fart around with her in level wads or whatnot http://www.mediafire.com/download/j4v13gpwo1tmq3w/Lydia_with_new_gun.7z
The screenshots I took with the bricks or whatnot is a test level I've been working on for developing art assets, unless you mean >>1154467 which is a screenshot from WW-Diaz v3, one of my favorites. I hope that answers your questions.
>>1155638
>Orange Jumpsuit
Is that a prison wad?!

>> No.1155676

>>1155638
This one looks familiar... Isn't it an unfinished/abandoned project?

>> No.1155684

>>1155169

hahah love this shot

archanotron, heavy weapon dude, and revenant, and another revenant creeping around the corner\

chaingun


good luck bra

>> No.1155693

>>1155676
Yep.

http://doomworld.com/idgames/?id=12747

>> No.1155701

>>1155672
>Is that a prison wad?!
Not really.

>> No.1155712

>>1155701
I could use a break from all these 3d modeling tutorials. I'ma play it.

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>>1155712
Could you give me some help over here? this puzzle is driving me nuts.

>> No.1155736

>>1155729
I would, but for some reason my pistol isn't working. Dagnabbit!

>> No.1155745

>>1155736
Use the fists and later grab the shotgun.

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>>1155745
This is how I know I've been level editing too long this week; I'm stuck at this elevator because I'm fascinated by how nicely it works. The whole thing moves! The ceiling, the floor, the wall, and the switch! I'm gonna go back later and reverse engineer this!

>> No.1155786

>>1155672
Yes, thanks for explaining. Do you have a website, thread or pastebin or something with more info about the project and character's back story and stuff?

>> No.1155803

>>1155786
Hmm, not really. I pretty much just post about it on /vr/ exclusively and show progress here since everyone always gives such helpful advice. I guess I should set up SOMETHING for it. As for Lydia, I haven't really come up with a lot other than the name and a tiny bit of background. I was thinking she was a former corporate assassin who decided to change her life around and wound up being a private detective or something. The company she used to work was working on a new drug that causes people to go batshit insane, and for some reason they seem to be targeting certain people like her. She's figuring out why and how to stop them. Not a super deep story right now so I'm always open to storyline suggestions honestly.

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>>1155803
Okay, I'll just keep lurking then I wanted to get back into these threads anyway.

Is she by any chance inspired by the Lydia from Breaking Bad?

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>>1155810
God, I hope not, I hated that bitch.
I was so happy when she died

>> No.1155815

>>1155810
Nope, the name was a dubbed to her by someone who was reminded of Lydia from Beetlejuice and I thought it was an awesome name. But...there will be a character who is very Tuco-like. Still planning him.
>>1155813
Dat stevia. Hehehe.

>> No.1155824
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>>1155813
Relax.
She didn't die on screen and knows what she was poisoned with. She may very well live on.

>>1155815
I just thought because of the name, the hair color, the glasses and even the face a bit.

>> No.1155825

>>1155824
Ricin doesn't have any antidote, unless she had her stomach pumped immediately after drinking her tea, she would've died

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>>1155824
Nope, total coincidence. I skipped around a lot on Breaking Bad so I really wasn't very familiar with her at all at the time I made Lydia. Hell she didn't even have a name for a long time. Damn though, her sunglasses are identical...

>> No.1155876

Hey, /vr/.
Got any Kubrickian map packs?

Also, DOOMRL arsenal is fucking amazing. Nuclear plasma weapons. Nanomachic missile launchers and shotties. Much much more to keep me playing. Almost as addictive as the actual DOOMRL!

>> No.1155906

>>1155672
>>1155803
That's a fine premise. Kind of reminds me of Manhunt 2 a bit. Perhaps one of their clandestine test labs had some mishap with a variant of the drug and everyone inside went nuts? Lydia could have been investigating and ended up trapped inside with them, and on the way to fighting her way out she could uncover more the conspiracy or some shit.

>> No.1155907

Since you guys are here to help, how can I get into this while on a Mac?

I have the original .wads but don't know how to play them (online or off)

>> No.1155916

>>1155906
I also imagine her being in episodic wads with her name as the title of each one in a Heretic-like font followed by a subtitle, kind of like pulpy noir fiction.

>> No.1155923 [DELETED] 

>>1155907
>Since you guys are here to help
We are?

>how can I get into this while on a Mac?
Install this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag on your head. With compliments from Sergeant Mark IV.

>> No.1155925

>>1155907

The source ports support mac, so it shouldn't be that different from using them normally.

http://wiki.zandronum.com/Install_Zandronum_on_OS_X

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19321

>> No.1155928

>>1155672
Does Lydia have a boyfriend?

She should. There aren't nearly enough fem-protags with a healthy romantic life. Male-protags can have a girlfriend and it's no big deal, but fem-protags are always either busty sexbombs, or frigid sexless robots. And sadly, Lydia appears to be the latter.

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>>1154789

Are there any tablet applications that can produce well made assets for a doom project? Is there a recommended sprite editor for a tablet? map editor?

>> No.1155934

>>1155672
I have a hard time getting into Diaz. I really like some of the stuff in it, but a lot of the weapons feel really clunky, and then the random mish-mash of random enemies I find kinda obnoxious.

>> No.1155936

>>1155932
Dont most people just draw sprites and whatnot in stuff like MS Paint?

>> No.1155937

>>1154789

Are there any WADs that substantially change Doom's gameplay?

Any WADs that stand out as especially creative?

>> No.1155943

>>1155937
I guess that depends on what you mean by "substantially change Doom's gameplay". In the sense that it feels like an entirely different game/genre altogether, or what?

>> No.1155948

>>1155558

Nebula Research
Ecliptic Inc.
GIB (Galactic investigation bureau)
Space Raiders

>> No.1155953

>>1155937

Aliens TC, Golden Souls, Pirate DOOM, Adventures of Square.

There are hundreds...

>> No.1155954

>>1155937
Hideous Destructor
Action Doom 1/2
Reelism
Pokemon Doom: Titanium

>> No.1155960

>>1155953
I can never get past the first fucking map of Aliens TC. The Aliens are such bullet sponges, and they just pour a seemingly infinite amount on you right from the get go.

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>>1155925
Why would you do that? Do you want this place to attract retards?

If that macfag wants to know how to play Doom on his overpriced piece of shit fisher price he can damn well fucking google it.

>> No.1155968

>>1155960
aren't you supposed to run from the alien(s)?

>> No.1155969 [DELETED] 

>>1155967
>>>/a/

>> No.1155971

>>1155936
lol

>>1155932
http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/

>> No.1155976

>>1155968
Doesnt help that they'll follow you to the ends of the earth.

>> No.1156004

What are some good wads to play Hideous Destructor on?

>> No.1156005

>>1156004
Plutonia

>> No.1156010
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1156010

I was thinking about returning to finish my Yellow Submarine WAD project. I'm not that great with animating, so would you be bothered if I just had 4 directions instead of 8?

>> No.1156012

>>1156010
You could do what Wolfenstein 3D did and just have them always face you.

Then turn off infighting so that way you don't see like what the SS did in Doom 2 when they shot each other.

>> No.1156015
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1156015

>>1156012

I know about that, and I do want some directions. I just don't think I need all 8 directions for a wad with this simple style, it's extra work that is only going to cause more stress.
Pretty much the reason I didn't want to finish my warhammer 40'000 wad, it's too big a scale with 8 directions per sprite (I should leave this series for Eternal crusade)

>> No.1156016

>>1156015
Why not make a 40K mod for something that would take less time to work on?
I think you could do something low poly 3D.

Or find a person or two to work with?

Nobody is going to hold four directions for sprites against you or your mod.

>> No.1156019

>>1156016

right now I'm that typical "ideas guy" and wouldn't count me in to lead something unless I know it get done. I may get a bit of help with Yellow Submarine once I've reached a playable milestone.
Except for a freeware game project I wanted to do but can't code either, that I would finish with the right coder.

Also 40'000 wasn't planned to have all the races at first, just Orks and Imperial Guard (and perhaps other Imperium such as Inquisitors and selective space marines). But it can't be done on a small scale with the ability to hold thousands of enemies at once, which was the whole concept to be done in DOOM.

>> No.1156029
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1156029

>>1156019

Better res image. Last I did was testing the blue arrows visuals. The Submarine monument isn't accurate right yet, I need to fix those textures too

>> No.1156067

>>1156029
>>1156019
You should have started on a smaller scale first and just did a 40K Weapon mod, and then go from there.

Aiming huge at the start never pans out.

Something like two factions alone would be a tremendous burden considering, you know, it's 40K

>> No.1156108

>>1156067

Yeah I know, but only these two concepts just spoke to me, and I have no interest in weapon mods (alone). I'm picky when it comes to ideas

>> No.1156109

>>1156108
Well it wasn't about stopping with just the weapons, it was about starting with a simple foundation.

Weapons are simpler to create and animate than monsters.

>> No.1156110

>>1156109

I have more interest in the DECORATE monsters, level design and sprite look rather than weapon designing. I was just doing a little bit at a time. All the screenshots are test to see how the overall feel of it would look, such as perspective of sprite placements and general art styles.

>> No.1156114
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>>1156110

oh yeah there was also this, obviously incomplete

>> No.1156121
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1156121

>>1156004
>Hideous Destructor

>> No.1156134
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1156134

Why don't you FAGGOTS fill this up? Honestly....


You don't HATE doom, Do AAAAAAAAAA?

>> No.1156137

>>1156134
doom.wikia.com should be changed to doomwiki.org

doom.wikia.com is outdated.

>> No.1156183
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1156183

>just found out American McGee worked on Doom

WHAT

>> No.1156206

>>1156183

Yeah, he was involved with Thy flesh consumed, Doom 2, and Quake level design

He also had some major contrasts with Romero and Petersen's level design ideas

>> No.1156210
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1156210

first time playing doom 2 here

>> No.1156259

>>1156206
he ended every level with "raise a floor to the exit room"

>> No.1156263

>>1156210
what skill level?

it's not surprising you missed secrets, one of them on that map doesn't have anything in it.

of the others i imagine you got behind the shutters but missed the super shotgun secret as it requires you to jump into a pit full of slime that looks otherwise inescapable.

>> No.1156281
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1156281

>>1155252
Wow...is the face really supposed to be that tiny?

>> No.1156290

>>1156134
>Why don't you FAGGOTS fill this up?
Why don't you FUCKING fill it up yourself?

Oh, wait, you were the one that had to have someone else come in and fucking fix your linework, weren't you?

>> No.1156291

>>1156210

Welcome to the game.

>> No.1156292

>>1156290

Revenants can't into alignment, you know

>> No.1156295

This is my first time playing Doom (playing on Zdoom). Anyways, no sound is playing at all, how do I go about fixing this?

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>> No.1156301
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1156301

>>1155273
Step it up.

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1156302

>>1156298

>> No.1156303

>>1156295

Do you have fmodex.dll in the directory?

>> No.1156304

>>1156295
Options > Sound Options > FIDDLE WITH EVERYTHING

>> No.1156306

>>1156263

skill level is normal (that one in the middle)

>> No.1156308

>>1156306
Play with UV. The best experience.

>> No.1156309

>>1156306
>inb4 tough guys getting mad at you for not using ultraviolence

>> No.1156312

>>1156309
>>1156308
And yes, I'm mad at him for not choosing UV. But I played with hurt me plenty at first anyway.

Your inb4 fails btw

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1156314

>>1156308
>>1156306
>>1156309

Not this shit again.
Play what skill level you fucking want.

>> No.1156315

>>1156308
>>1156309

well I'm a backlogger, so I typically pick normal

although if I play a co-op game, I'll play on hard

>> No.1156331
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1156331

these guys seem to be having a good time. bet you wish you were them.

>> No.1156339

Pirate Doom has received some co-op and deathmatch fixes, and some weapons as well; almost all of 'em have altfires now

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=718009#p718009

A zandro version is on the verge of release, and Pirate Doom now has FreeDoom support

>> No.1156389

>>1155928
Are you implying you want Lydia to be a "busty sex bomb" and want rule 34 of her, sorry but nope.
At least not until the wad is officially released...

>> No.1156423

>>1156389
>and want rule 34 of her, sorry but nope.

The Cyberrunner is a fucking sexless robot and there was still rule 34 of her.
I don't think you quite understand the potential erections here.

>> No.1156426

>>1156389
No, you idiot, he doesn't want either of those.

>> No.1156436

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

Post screenshots e.t.c.

>> No.1156443
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1156443

>>1155928
I haven't really thought that far in advance. The deepest I've come to any sort of characterization for her is thinking about what type of shit to put in her apartment since that's level 1. I always hated action flicks that had some sort of "love interest" angle, but maybe an old ex-boyfriend character might be fun. I had it planned that her apartment was littered with empty booze bottles from a recent binge, perhaps that could be one of the many reasons why? I'll put some thought into it.
>>1155934
Oh man, I loved it. Some of the weapons are clunky, like the shotgun you have to manually pump. I can't recall if it was in v3 or the other diaz mod, but there's an automatic pistol that occasionally jams and you have to keep clicking to smack it around and unjam it. I thought that was fucking awesome.
>>1156423
>>1156389
Oh you.

>> No.1156453

>>1156443
Give her some kind of hobby or interest, even if it's something like video games or arthouse movies.

also the ex-boyfriend might be cool, but don't make him part of her motivation for doing whatever she does (or at least the current motivation)

>> No.1156458

The Diaz mods were cool, but balance was fucked once you got past the former human replacements into the demons. There was just flat out not enough ammo and even the bigger guns did shit damage.

>> No.1156470

>>1156292

This fucker knows his shit.

>>1156290

Because that's not how that thing works. Each person adds 1 wad of their choosing to the list until it is full.

>> No.1156473
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1156473

>>1156453
Video games might be cool since I was already planning some voxelized classic consoles and arcade cabinets. I was also thinking B movies, slasher flicks, and kung fu movies since I already made some posters for those.

>> No.1156483

>>1156206
>he was involved with Thy flesh consumed, Doom 2, and Quake level design
So basically he worked on all of the bad ones.

>> No.1156501

>>1156423
I don't mean it isn't going to exist, just that I will not do it myself even when I'm a Lydia fan and all that.
>>1156443
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/j4v13gpwo1tmq3w/Lydia_with_new_gun.7z
it's okay if I put this link in the other places I'll post that lydia pic?
I have not too much audience but it might get their interest.

>> No.1156506

>>1156501
Go for it! I'm always happy to see others enjoying my work.

>> No.1156512

>>1156506
Cool, I like your attitude.
Many dudes doesn't like his work to spread, I find that a bit strange

>> No.1156513

>>1156004
TVR!.wad
Marswar
Wonderful Doom
Fragport

>>1156121
git gud, turboscrub

>> No.1156526
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1156526

>>1156512
From the very start of this project, I wanted people to take part in it with me, make suggestions, ect. I don't care about any sort of e-fame or anything, I just want to make something people will enjoy. Hell, if people want to use any of my art assets for their own mods, I'm totally cool with that too. It's kind of neat to think about what people might use the things I've created in their own works. A slaughter map full of stranglers...

>> No.1156561
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1156561

How many shit levels are there in Doom 2?

>> No.1156562

>>1155252
This ruined the Archville for me.

Fuck.

>> No.1156568
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1156568

>>1156483
I personally love American's maps. They have a twisted sense of humor to them. So many dickish moments.

>> No.1156570

>>1156568
Didn't mean to post that shot since it's a romero map, but the cacodemon with a dead cacodemon on his head was pretty funny.

>> No.1156589

>>1156010
>so would you be bothered if I just had 4 directions instead of 8?

This is ok.

>> No.1156595

What are some good wads to play with Brutal Doom?

>> No.1156598

>>1156561

Most of them are just bland and uninteresting. There are some really shitty ones, like Monster Condo for example.

The only ones that really stand out to me are Dead Simple, Tricks and Traps, The Spirit World and Icon of Sin. The rest are just annoying, boring or plain dog poo.

>> No.1156602

>>1156568
>>1156568
> tfw one of my favorites Doom maps ever

Romero should try to make some new Doom maps.

>> No.1156606

>>1156598
How's the level design in Final Doom?

>> No.1156607

>>1156598
Dead Simple is boring as hell.

Map 29 is awesome.

>> No.1156612

>>1156607
And Icon of Sin is a underwhelming boss fight. Not even a boss fight, actually.

>> No.1156618
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>>1156606
I really enjoyed TNT, Plutonia was a little less enjoyable, but both are pretty good.

>> No.1156620

>>1156607

Idk, the arena-like orientation of Dead Simple felt pretty cool. Especially on ultra-violence with the SSG, that shit was fun.

Icon of Sin was interesting to mess around in. I mean yes it was a crap boss fight, but it was kinda cool to look at.

>> No.1156623

>>1156612
Shoot Romero's head to win.

Also, may or may not be a stupid question, I'm new to HD. Started off with the rifleman class, with the select fire and underslung grenade launcher. Got to the second level, and can no longer pick up other rifles, I don't get the prompt to swap anymore. Also, while I was still able to swap my rifle, it wouldn't immediately swap, I would have to hit the "4" to drop my currently equipped rifle key after pressing and holding the "Use" key to pick up the one found on the floor. It's been awhile since I've played, but this seemed kinda odd, am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?

>> No.1156624

>>1156602

Here's a fact; that was the original plan for Doom: The Way Id Did, to put Romero to make a new map, but then they choosed to hear his advices about getting the id software style of mapping right, and decided to follow it for the whole project

>> No.1156635

>>1156624
Cool.

> but then they choosed to hear his advices about getting the id software style of mapping right

More about this?

>> No.1156638

>>1156624
So, Romero didn't wanted to make a new map?

>> No.1156646

>>1156623
Check the hud. If the rifle mag icon is fully red, that means you're full up on "powder" and just need some brass to make some mags for the battle rifle. Read the manual for more details.

>> No.1156650

>>1156646
The rifle is caseless though. The problem I'm having is that I can just no longer pick up other rifles.

>> No.1156654

>>1156650
Yes, the assault rifle is caseless. The battle rifle is a separate weapon and is not caseless.

>> No.1156658

>>1156654
Shouldn't I still be able to pick up the battle rifle though? In the first map all the rifles could be picked up, now they can't be, they all look like what I have, or what I've picked up before.

>> No.1156673

>>1156658
The battle rifle is very rare. I've never found it in an actual map myself. I think it occasionally spawns where a backpack normally would, though.

>> No.1156680

>>1156673
Odd. I'm playing on Doom 2 Reloaded and that's all enemies dropped for the first map, various Battle Rifles, mostly semi-auto only and select fire ones.

>> No.1156741

>>1156635
>>1156638

It's not like he didn't wanted to, it's more like an agreement that everyone involved in the project decided to take; if you want, you can look up John's very own Doomworld account on the forums and check his posts in the DTWiD development thread describing pretty well the rules they followed when the game was made (or at least, tried to).

It goes by “Romero” and has a Quake avatar on it.

You know who else has a Doomworld account? Aubrey Hodges

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>>1156436

Oh.

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=5657

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jifnKXTxdPc

>> No.1156754

Does a Doom 3 wad/mod exist?

>> No.1156758

>>1156680
Those are ZM66 assault rifles. They suck, they're terrible, and overall only worth using because their ammo is really common. They jam, they've got cookoff problems, and the damage is less than optimal. The Liberator battle rifle doesn't suck, but has really rare ammo. The Classic Rifleman starts with one, if you want to see for yourself.

>> No.1156789

>>1156754

There's a Doom 3 weapon mod somewhere in the Zdoom wiki. And there's also an on-hold project on the Zdoom forums

Other than that, nothing else

>> No.1156797

>>1156789
link the forum project?

>> No.1156802

>>1156758
Man I didn't even know they could cook off or jam. Still doesn't help my problem though.

also
>Playing HD
>Hear loud mechanical stomping noise
>Turn corner
>Explosive Barrel
"Wat"
>It slowly lumbers towards me.
"Waaaat"
>It chucks plasma ball thing at me

>> No.1156807

Any wads without jumping sequences?

>> No.1156823

>>1156802
When you're "picking up" a rifle, you're really just taking the powder. You can see how much you've got by checking the hud and looking at the rifle mag count. If the icon is red, that means you're full on powder and can't pick up rifles anymore. Unfortunately, you also can't get rid of this powder until you've got some brass (obtained from firing the battle rifle and picking up the casings), so you might just be screwed if you can't find a battle rifle.

>> No.1156831

>>1156823
So if I'm full on powder I can't even swap out my assault rifle for say, one with a scope or whatever? I thought that you couldn't reload caseless ammo?

>> No.1156836

>>1156831
If you've got a grenade rifle, it's already got everything on it. The different rifles are pretty much straight upgrades in terms of options. The powder is for making more battle rifle mags, since they're very rare otherwise.

>> No.1156847

>>1156836
Everything except a scope, unfortunately, which would be useful in the wad I'm playing on. That seems odd though, using powder from caseless cartridges in reloading ammo for a gun that uses totally different powder and cartridges.

>> No.1156850

>>1156847
It should have a scope. Try pressing the Zoom button and looking at the crosshair again.

>> No.1156853

>>1156850
Ah I didn't think of that, I'll give it a try.

>> No.1156857

>>1156850
>>1156853
Well fuck me, that worked. I didn't have Zoom bound to anything, since I've never really had to use it. Which is why I was asking why I couldn't swap out my assault rifle, because I didn't know mine actually had one, and wanted one with a scope for some of the larger areas of this wad.

>> No.1156889

>>1156857
Yeah, HD really makes use of all the built-in ZDoom keys, and it still needs to define a couple new ones.

>> No.1157031

>>1156807
>without jumping sequences

Uh how about the majority of them?

>> No.1157041
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1157041

>>1156436
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=630

This... This truly is bullshit. It's an E1M6 modification where 90% of textures are grey, there's way too many monsters, pits abound, and a good deal of map elements that are doors and required switches don't have proper texturing. The ones that DO don't even use the textures right. The map looks ugly, plays like shit, and the most unforgivable thing in the wad ever happens: There's a door that doesn't even look like a door. You press it, and it opens... but not enough. You enter the room through crouching with a source port, and "YOU FOUND A SECRET!" appears. All fine and dandy, I guess, until you find the RED KEY. A REQUIRED ELEMENT TO COMPLETING THE MAP. AND YOU CAN'T EVEN ACCESS IT IN VANILLA IN A 'NILLA-ORIENTED MAP? BULLSHIT!

The straw that broke the camel's back had to be the fact that the end level switch is a random-ass wall texture out of nowhere. Much wall-humping happened. If you don't know E1M6's design, you'll have a lot of trouble. It's terrible. Don't play it.

>> No.1157081
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1157081

>>1157041
Oh shit wrong screenie.

>> No.1157092
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>> No.1157095

Anyone else really love Hell ground?

>> No.1157107

>>1156618
Hud is nice.

>> No.1157108

How do I play Doom on linux?

I want to continue my goal fo trying to beat the game on nightmare

>> No.1157109

>>1157108
You can compile ZDoom or GZDoom from source, and I think there's linux builds of Zandronum.

>> No.1157115

>>1157109

Neat, I'm pretty new to linux though, how would I compile GZDoom from source?

>> No.1157117
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1157117

>>1157081
Fucking 1366x768...

>>1157108
90% of Doom ports have a Linux variant. Which one did you want to use?

>> No.1157119

>>1156295
Don't jump. It breaks levels. Or just turn it off

>> No.1157123

>>1157081
Is it possible to make a map look like that?
It'd be a cool death effect.

>> No.1157124

>>1157117

I was probably just going to go with GZDoom because it's openGL.

I just found Chocolate Doom on the Ubuntu Software Centre, any idea if it's a good port?

>> No.1157130

>>1157124
>Ubuntu
>MFW

But DRDTeam maintains Debian/Ubuntu packages. Just use em. http://debian.drdteam.org/

Also, yeah, Chocolate Doom is a good port.

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>> No.1157147

>>1157142
OH SHIT NIGGER IS THAT SOME TWILIGHT WARRIOR?

>> No.1157149
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1157149

>>1157147
Yes sir.

>> No.1157152

>>1157124
Chocolate Doom is good if you want a purist experience.

>> No.1157154
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1157154

>first CTF game with actual players in it after so long is so vanilla it doesn't even use smooth animations

>> No.1157156

>>1155826
>tfw no breaking bad weapons mod

>> No.1157182

>>1156595
Sadly, there's not a lot. It seems to be pretty common with wad makers to design their wads super tightly, with each section having a very specific solution to overcoming the challenge based on the properties of a particular weapon (BFG sections are the worst offender here). Which in my opinion is a really lazy approach to design.

The Scythe wads work pretty well, as does Stardate 20X6.

>> No.1157187 [DELETED] 

>>1155923
>>1155967

> being this mad

>> No.1157197
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1157197

>>1156134
Fuckit. I'm game.

>> No.1157202

Any /vr/ or /v/ servers to join

>> No.1157221 [DELETED] 

>>1155907
I wish I could help bud, all I can recommend is looking around for a mac compatible sourceport (there's bound to be one, I know there are linux compatible sourceports) and getting whatever is required for the sourceport (they'll probably say in the readme or on the site).

>> No.1157229

>>1157197
So what is this? An additional collection of new shit, or is it a revision meant to replace the original?

>> No.1157231
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>>1156134
>>1157197
I'm interested in some short campaigns, you guys got any besides what's in pic related

>> No.1157232
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>>1156436
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=16007

Single large level, named "Paradice" (was it incidental?). Actually not too bad, but you start out in a room that supplies you with weapons and armor, and it looks like he ripped the sprites out of Doom 64 through screenshots with photoshop. It uses Duke 3D music, cannot go wrong with this.

>> No.1157237

>>1157156

And what would be Walter White's arsenal, anyway?

I think a lot of people would even go far up to play a simple weapon + player/HUD reskin wad.

Just choose the right weaps, create a decent Walter HUD face and tada.

You can gain few people who may track your following works by doing this quick move.

>> No.1157240

>>1157229
New shit is the idea.

>> No.1157245

>>1157240
Ah, alright then. Wouldn't the obvious thing be to add shit from the thread FAQ.

>> No.1157249

Are there any good story focused wad packs out there? Like proper campaigns.

>> No.1157258

>>1157245
Wouldn't the obvious thing be to add one and post it?

>> No.1157262

>>1157237
Melee - Box Cutter
Berserk - Ricin
Chainsaw - Bike Lock
Pistol - Either Jesse's revolver or the Snub nose
Shotgun - dunno
Chaingun - M60
SSG - Mercury Fulminate
Rocket Launcher - Tortuga
Plasma - Phosphine
BFG - Hector

>> No.1157264

>>1157197
For campaign I would recommend Winter's Fury, and both ZDCMP wads for single-level.

>> No.1157265

>>1157258
Trust me, you don't want anything formatted by me and I frankly don't give enough of a shit to do so.

>> No.1157268
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>>1157231
Also I'm having a blast with Equinox

>> No.1157287
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>>1157187
>being unable to enjoy some good old healthy justified rage
>castrating your full emotional range
>3011-98

faggot ass pussy

>> No.1157302 [DELETED] 

>>1157293
>justified rage
>he uses a different OS than me
>justified

Don't be a cunt.

>> No.1157308 [DELETED] 

>>1157302
>supporting Apple
>not rageworthy

The OS isn't that bad, the company that produces it is.

Not that Microsoft is any better but if you're on a PC I just hope you didn't pay for windows.

>> No.1157314

I have trouble finding places to put decorative objects. I usually just end up making decor with sectors. Any suggestions?

>> No.1157315 [DELETED] 

>>1157308
See
>>1157302

>> No.1157327 [DELETED] 

>>1157315
Oh, so you don't have an argument? Why don't you just shut up then?

>> No.1157334 [DELETED] 

>>1157293
> offering help
> loltrolling
How's it like to still be an immature child?

>> No.1157338 [DELETED] 

>>1157327
What argument could there be? Supporting Apple isn't any worse than supporting any other tech company.

>> No.1157346 [DELETED] 

>>1157302
>>1157308

Who knows if he has a Mac only because it was a gift or something?

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>>1157327
Ever think that maybe they didn't have a choice about getting a Mac?

I know people like that. Now fuck off to >>>/g/ if you wanna wank about operating systems

>> No.1157352 [DELETED] 

>>1157334
>needing help
>with something you can google in under 5 seconds
How's it like to be legitimately retarded?

>>1157338
>overpriced closed box PC
>not the worst

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1157356

Shut the fuck up about Mac and play Doom already.

>> No.1157357 [DELETED] 

>>1157346
>>1157350
How does that prevent him from using google to find out which source ports work on his shitty fucking system?

>> No.1157359 [DELETED] 

>>1157357
see >>1157356

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>>1157357

>> No.1157363 [DELETED] 

>>1157359
see >>1157356 your-fucking-self and stop posting bitch nigga

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>>1157362
>People still use my image

>> No.1157387

>>1157041
this can't be right, i've played this map to completion in prboom

>> No.1157412
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1157412

>>1155204
HE COULD HAVE SAVED SO MANY LIVES AND NOW HE'S DEAAAAAAD

;_; He had such wonderful bedside manner, none of his patients ever felt agitated.

>> No.1157426
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>>1157412

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>>1157041

i >>1157387 had to go back and check this.

you go down the lift [1]
at the bottom [2]
out the doorway and turn around [3]
press on the wedge that sticks out [4]
enter the passage [5]
and turn around at the end of it [6]

no crouching required.

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>>1157041
having said that you're right the exit is somewhat unmarked. except it isn't, it has "exit" written on it... well i suppose you might not expect to have to actually press on the wall. i suppose i had the advantage of an engine that draws exit linedefs in a different colour on the automap.

>If you don't know E1M6's design, you'll have a lot of trouble. It's terrible. Don't play it.

this map comes from the days before anyone figured out the BSP format, so the only map editing that could be done was retexuring and editing of line specials and thing layouts. in those days, it was assumed that if you were looking for new levels you had played the originals to utter exhaustion, and in particular knew the layout of E1M6 to the extent of being able to sketch it on the back of a napkin without looking.

not to make too many excuses, it is a confusing edit and also the baron in sector 145 seems impossible to kill without rocketing the wall above it (you can't jump in, it's a damage sector with no way out) but i think when put into historical context it's nowhere near as awful as you claim it to be.

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>>1155558
Early interior shot and a new weapon. Probably gonna go with either 'Zenith' or Nebula/Nebula Research since they seem the most sci-fi-y of the suggestions.

>> No.1157569
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1157569

Are there any medieval/fantasy levelsets...for Doom?

I'm working on rehauling an old Skulltag mod and it's going pretty well, but I'd like to throw it through a levelset or two for fun, and the most thematically appropriate would be, well, medieval/fantasy.

>> No.1157574

>>1157569
>medieval/fantasy levelsets
Heretic and Hexen

>> No.1157576

>>1157569
>for Doom
Dissolution
there was an old Heretic TC
That's about all off the top of my head

>> No.1157585

Playing through Equinox with Brutal Doom. Was enjoying it until it went just full retard slaughter wad. Maybe my experience would be better if I wasn't playing with BD. The level design is really nice.

>> No.1157612

>>1157585
BD goes great with Doom 2 Reloaded. There are no slaughtermaps on it.

>> No.1157614

>>1157612
Yeah I've actually played through D2Reloaded with Brutal Doom before, it's great.

>> No.1157620

I might try doing equinox later with something like Russian Overkill. Now that is great with slaughter wads.

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>>1157568

>> No.1157640
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Repoastan BDSE. After playing a few wads with it, I'm noticing a major overabundance of bullets and shells. Playing with it now, it's not as nuts, but I don't know. I don't want to make anything too scarce.

>Reduced shell box amount to 12 instead of 20
>Reduced bullet box amount to 80 instead of 100
>Sergeants have 50% chance to drop nothing
>Loose shell and bullet box item sprites messed with

http://www.mediafire.com/download/jqo7718g6kdzxtp/Brutal_Doom_v0.18_-_SE.zip

>> No.1157667

>>1157585
Out of curiosity, at what point do you think Equinox goes "full retard slaughter wad" ?

>> No.1157675

>>1157667
Not him, but for me it was the map that revisits the first one. It was definitely a nice reminder as to who made the WAD, but god damn if it didn't ruin the fun.

>> No.1157684

>>1157667
I can't remember the specific name of the map, but it opened up to a huge open room, tons and tons of various enemies, with an arachnotron dead ahead, as well as to the left and to the right, and down every large open hall there was another huge crowd waiting to maul you. The levels prior had a fair amount of enemies as well, but they were in more manageable clusters.
Like I said, it could just be because I'm playing with Brutal Doom, which does increase the difficulty a bit, but I eventually just gave up and decided I would try again later with a different wad, like Russian Overkill.

Still, it wasn't as much of a piss-off as DTS-T was.

>> No.1157702

>>1157231
Explain why Demon Eclipse is not "as complete feeling" as the other mods. Nobody gives a shit about your feelings. The map design is fucking stellar and all the assets fit Doom really well. Why do you shit on Demon Eclipse while recommending unbalanced crap like Cold as Hell?

>> No.1157703

What's Quake's Zandronum?

>> No.1157704

>>1157702
Are you aware just how outdated that pic is? It still recommends Skulltag and links to doom.wikia.com.

>> No.1157705

>>1157675
the giant cavern that comprises most of the final map is a bit mental, yes. on the other hand it is extremely large and damage is fairly easily avoidable if you keep moving constantly.
>>1157684
that sounds like the hanger (iirc it is misspelled). it is pretty much two giant boxes full of monsters, but they're not so stuffed that you have no room to move. BD probably screwed you over there. On the other hand RO will probably trivialise it excessively (it usually does...)

>> No.1157706

>>1157702
>Nobody gives a shit about your feelings.

Coincidentally, nobody gives a shit about yours, either.
Also that pic is outdated as fuck, I have no clue why people keep reposting it.

>> No.1157713

>>1157705
Just checked, it was "The Focus". Maybe I shouldn't have played it on Ultra Violence either.

>> No.1157717

>>1157704
I don't see how being old changes anything about it being wrong.

>>1157706
>Coincidentally, nobody gives a shit about yours, either.
Wow, you are really good stating the obvious in the most redundant way possible.

>Also that pic is outdated as fuck, I have no clue why people keep reposting it.
People are too lazy to make new ones, apparently.

>> No.1157726

>>1157702
i believe you have misunderstood the sense in which the term "feeling" is used. the word can also simply mean an impression given. the work gave the impression (to the original author) that it was not yet complete.

are you perhaps a non-native english speaker?

>> No.1157730

>>1157713
ah, yes the genome labs, it has millions of zombies at the start and then you can't take nearly enough of the dropped ammo with you to be able to get to the end... that map looked great, but was annoying.

>> No.1157735

>>1157726
I am.

I understood perfectly well though. Even if it's just an impression, I'd like an explanation as to what gave him that impression because I found the mod to be extremely polished. Of course that's quite a futile endeavor if the guy who posted the pic didn't make it. So let's just forget about it.

>> No.1157740

>>1157730
Yeah, I might try replaying it on a lower difficulty, or just with a different wad. I'm not really a huge fan of slaughter wads/maps. Especially when they just kinda surprise you with it as well, it seems sorta normal at first, maybe more enemies than your average wad, but then it drops you into a straight up slaughter map, so annoying.
Which is exactly what DTS-T did, it was fantastic to start off, it was some really fun and aesthetically pleasing levels, with normal amounts of enemies, then partway through it just becomes a slaughter wad.

>>1157735
Maybe because Demon Eclipse technically is incomplete? They're still working on Episode 3 of it.

>> No.1157741
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1157741

http://static.best-ever.org/wads/samsara_doom64guy_test4.pk3

Load after samsara 0.3. Thanks to Terminus for helping the fuck out with different things.

>b-but anon it's just doom 64 guy w-why would we play him if we already have doomguy
Well you stuttering /a/ neckbeard, this here fucker isn't just for playing doom64, it's also a template for you guys to MAKE YOUR OWN CHARACTERS WITH.
This add-on is the most bare-bones most generic possible character so that you can use it to springboard and make your own character with.

>b-b-but i don't know how to c-c-code
FUCK OFF, NEITHER DID I
TA DAAAA I MADE THIS
YOU CAN MAKE SOMETHING TOO

>can i use this to make a caleb that isn't shit
Yes.
>can i use this to make brutal doomguy
Yes.
>can i use this to make j.c. denton
Yes.
>can i use this to make lo wang
Yes.
>can i use this to make a fucking bear
YES.
>can i use this to make my dragon furry oc
FUCK NO
>can i use this to make grondoval
Get out DKG

>> No.1157746

Anyone have an opinion on NMD? I'm four levels in and I'm finding it pretty bland tbh.

>> No.1157749

>>1157746
>Anyone have an opinion on NMD? I'm four levels in and I'm finding it pretty bland tbh.

i assume you mean Needs More Detail, where "bland" is kind of the point. it's not hideously overdetailed like most modern wads. if you think it's bland, then don't take this the wrong way, but, i feel* you're not in the intended audience.

_________
* sorry, >>1157735 !

>> No.1157750

>>1157740
How about just saying it is unfinished then? How does feeling come into it if it's a fact? Damn.

>> No.1157752

>>1157749
oh and needless to say i thought it was great. although iirc some of the maps in the third episode were quite frustrating to do from pistol starts.

>> No.1157753

>>1157749

I know, I'm referring to the gameplay and overall level flow and progression.

>> No.1157754

>>1157750
I get what you're saying, and I do agree that personal opinion shouldn't really come into a list like that since many peoples tastes will vary, but it's not THAT big of a deal.

I'm sure there'll be a new list at somepoint anyways.

>> No.1157757 [DELETED] 

>>1157717
The thing is, not only do I not care about your feelings but I also want to take a nice hot big giant fucking steamy shit right all over them, fag.

>> No.1157758

>>1157740
remind me what DTS-T stands for?

>> No.1157759

Just downloaded Demon Eclipse to check it out. Why the fuck is it divided up into like 10 different wads?

>> No.1157763

>>1157758
Dimension Time Space-Traveler.

>> No.1157765

>>1157757
Well, good thing I don't give a shit what you want.

>>1157754
It's certainly misleading but I guess you can never trust those lists anyway and should just try out everything that's somewhat acclaimed and popular.

>> No.1157768 [DELETED] 

>>1157765
Shut up you fucking nigger, nobody even reads your posts.

>> No.1157770

>>1157765
The point of the list is to recommend wads to people, but something like "not as complete feeling" or whatever might seem a bit offputting to some people.

That said, I have nothing better to do with my time and would be willing to slap together a new list from the template posted here.

>> No.1157771

>>1157759
You're just supposed to keep them zipped and just load the .zip.

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>>1157768
You do.

>> No.1157780

>>1157741

All right so
REALM667GUY

Fist:
Pistol:
1: Shield Gun
2: Cryo Bow
3: Stunner Rifle
4: Pulse Nailgun
5: Double Grenade Launcher
6: Channeler
7: UTNT Pyro Cannon

ta daaaa
i can make a character with no effort

>> No.1157783 [DELETED] 

>>1157773
just report him please.

>> No.1157792 [DELETED] 

>>1157783
;(((((((((( wahhhhhhhhh

>> No.1157794

>>1157703
ezQuake I think?
Almost every source port can play servers. You just have to find the servers.

>> No.1157796

>>1157794
Then what's Quake's Doomseeker?

>> No.1157801

>>1157741
AW YEAH SON
THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TO SEE

>> No.1157802

>>1157796
http://quakeservers.net/

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1157810

Thank you based mods

>> No.1157867

Console aside, how does one get to Reelism's secret ending and to dog hell?

>>1157741
Doom64guy plays pretty nicely

Chaingun feels great but that fucking plasma gun feels weak as shit to handle

>> No.1157881 [DELETED] 

>>1157810
dick sucking meme spouting NIGGER

>> No.1157905

>>1157569
Anything with Quake textures.
Check out Cheogsh maybe?

>> No.1157941
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>>1156436
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=7968

Single level wad, really AMAZING for a 1996 map, big, simple, very diferend from all vainilla maps, maped if is was some kind of mantion, very fun, 8/10, a few textures misplacement and a lack of details in big open areas, kinda easy.

>> No.1157961

>>1157867
>dog hell
There's an unmarked gate in the lobby map that takes you there. I dunno anything about the secret ending, though.

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>>1157426
Someone should make a wad where all the revenants walk like that.

>> No.1158093
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1158093

>>1157262
>BFG - Hector

>> No.1158098
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>>1157197

And Here... We... Go!

>> No.1158140

>>1157182
Thanks, I will give it a try.

>> No.1158154

>>1158098
>.jpg
These things happen I suppose...

>> No.1158156

>>1158154
There's nothing inherently wrong with jpg. You just shouldn't use microsoft paint for it. That shit doesn't care what it compresses.

>> No.1158190
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1158190

Whatever happened to this?

>> No.1158232
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>>1156436
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=7968
A fuckhuge map that replaces the first level, seems that's it a dark design based on a college or highschool.
Gonna keep playing it, so far it's a 6-7/10

>> No.1158237

>>1158232
And I finished it
It was very easy, I didn't die once on UV, but it's a 6-7/10, worth a shot if you want something big, short and easy.
Now i'm gonna play do doom RL

>> No.1158249
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1158249

>>1158232
Well this was pretty fun.

Stupid, but fun.

>> No.1158275

>>1158232
Why do people play with that godawful blur filter enabled? You now you can switch the off under texture options in the setting, right?

>> No.1158279

>>1158275
B-but BLURRINESS = REELISM

>> No.1158306

>>1157961
Hit a Boss with the Holy Brick.

>> No.1158312

I seem to be having a problem with the ZDL launcher. I'm trying to play a map pack with Brutal doom but every time I try to launch I get: You cannot -file with the shareware version Register!


Now I know for a fact that I have every single doom game so I must be doing something wrong.

>> No.1158313

>>1158312
IWAD problem
note: brutal doom isn't an IWAD

>> No.1158316

>>1158313
I am not trying to load Brutal Doom as a IWAD though I made it as a External File.

>> No.1158318

>>1158316
what iwad are you using then? i remember seeing that mars3D was seen as the doom shareware

>> No.1158319

Never played DOOM before, but I want to start with brutal DOOM. Should I wait for version 19?

>> No.1158320

>>1158318
Source Port is GZdoom.

IWAD is Congestion 1024.

External Files is Brutal Doom 18a.

>> No.1158321

>>1158319
you should start vanilla (well, vanilla with sprinkles)
at least E1
and for brutal doom, maybe wait for SE 19

>> No.1158324

>>1158320
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Congestion_1024
"Congestion 1024 is a 2005 megawad for Doom II"
you're trying to load a PWAD as an IWAD

>> No.1158325

>>1158321
But I wanna rip and tear...

>> No.1158327

>>1158325
Rip and tear can wait later.
For now, go vanilla.

>> No.1158328

>>1158324
So what should I do if I want to play it with Brutal Doom.

>> No.1158329

>>1158327
Alright then.

>> No.1158330

>>1158325
But you can, just grab a berserk pack and EXPLODE THE DEMONS WITH YOUR FISTS!

>> No.1158332

>>1158328
select doom2 as an IWAD, and put both brutal doom and congestion as external files

>> No.1158335
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1158335

>>1158319
>playing ANY game for the first time with a gameplay mod

You fool!

>> No.1158337

>>1158332
Thanks for the help. Like I said running mods on top of each other is new to me so I needed some help.

>> No.1158338

You've earned your Dooming license, haven't you, /vr/?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33537

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>>1158338
wat

>> No.1158345

>>1158319
Don't start with Brutal Doom.

>> No.1158352

>>1158342
They're supposed to be UAC marines.

>> No.1158356

>>1158352
I know. I'm just mucking around.

>> No.1158361

>>1157412
Nevar forget.

>> No.1158370

>Doors won't open for me in DOOM
Spacebar doesn't work. Neither does double clicking. Help.

>> No.1158375

>>1158370
Did you check your key configuration at all?

>> No.1158376

>>1157412
He may be gone from this world now but he will never be gone from our hearts.

>> No.1158380

>>1158375
Yes. It said spaacebar and double clicking would open doors.

>> No.1158390

>>1158380
>It said spaacebar and double clicking would open doors.

What in the world source port are you using?

>> No.1158398

>>1158390
Sounds like 'nilla Doom.
Are you using a source port? What's your OS?

>> No.1158408

>>1154952
>Nito
Dark Souls WAD when?

>> No.1158417

>>1158154
>Not knowing how to save uncompressed jpegs.

C'mon man.

>> No.1158420

>>1158398
Zandronum and W8.

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1158452

>>1158420
doesn't zandro have use set to E by default?
why would double clicking work, anyway? M1 is the shooting button.

>> No.1158459

>>1158452
M2.

>> No.1158469

>>1158329
Yeah good choice, BRUTAL DOOM is alot harder than vanilla doom.

>> No.1158471

Best Doom (or II) music track?

>> No.1158482

>>1158471
not sure if you can consider it the best, but my favorite is hiding the secret (E1M9)

>> No.1158491

Sonic Robo Blast 2?

>> No.1158497

What would you guys say is the best looking Doom wad, Visually I mean.

>> No.1158508

>>1158420
I'm using Zandro and Win8 as well. (Well, 8.1 but still)
Go to Options > Configure Controls. IIRC the double-click thing got depreciated as hell once Source ports made Keyboard/Mouse combos more doable. Space should be the default though. Sounds like something's interfering.

>> No.1158509

>>1154971
>>1155281
What might this be?

>> No.1158513

>>1155371
Looks very cool, the weapon looks a bit toyish though

>> No.1158523

>>1158497
Vanilla-compat? BTSX, probably. Suspended in Dusk is a close second.
GZDoom? Putrefier, no doubt. That map is grafix as fuck.

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>>1158497
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=16631

Buckle up.

>> No.1158530

>>1158508
Spacebar is set to jump for me. I don't what to do, I can't find the control for doors.

>> No.1158553

>>1158471
Just BARELY qualifies. That fucking marching...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-97hqB5caI

>> No.1158562

>>1158497
I'd have to say either Knee Deep In ZDoom, or Winter's Fury, and maybe ZDCMP2 as well.

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>>1158530

>> No.1158619

>>1158601
he's probably looking for the UNF key

>> No.1158621
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>>1158342
>Go to a demon killer training facility
>They're all women
>They all have the same fashion sense as you
I don't know why but I HHNNGGG'd.

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>>1158619

>> No.1158634
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1158634

I've been trying to find any LA world wad so far. I want to play them, they are great. But I can't find the following:
>LA snow world
>LA cave world

Does anyone got the WADs? I want to play all worlds so bad...

>mfw cant find

>> No.1158646

>>1158621
If I wouldn't opted for catsuits, it would look like Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

>> No.1158756

>>1158471

Shawn's Got the Shotgun or Nobody Told Me About id

>> No.1158817

>>1158756
>implying[∕ spoiler]

>> No.1158846

Do people talk about "The Sky May Be" in these threads? I honestly know nothing about Doom WADs.

http://it-he.org/doom.htm#smb

>> No.1158850

>>1158817

idk brah, those are two of the most badass tracks in both DOOM games.

>> No.1158852

>>1158846
What's there to talk about? It's trippy as shit.

>> No.1158864

>>1158190
Good question. I was looking forward to it.

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>> No.1158878

sup br0s

what are some comfy wads i can play

>> No.1158887

>>1158319
I'm a big fan of Brutal Doom and I say you should get through at least the first episode of Doom with vanilla first. If only so you can appreciate the changes.

>> No.1158891

>>1158319
>starting
E1M1 no freelook no jumping no crouching.
Ultra Violence.

>> No.1158905 [DELETED] 

>>1158319
>Wanting to play Call of Doomty

Seriously, fuck Brutal Doom and fuck Mark IV for shitting all over Doom with his "420 noscope headshotXXX" design sensibilities.

>> No.1158910

>>1158905
>shitting all over doom by making accuracy and skill with weapons count

Faggot. If you've played Quake, you'd know damn well that what he's doing with Brutal Doom is perfectly in line with the design of old school shooting games. All he's doing is improving up a 20 year old design that had no shortage of flaws.

>> No.1158917
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1158917

Is it possible to have Buyer's Not-Remorse?

>> No.1158923

>>1158917
Yes

>> No.1158924

>>1158905
Brutal Doom has more interesting gameplay mechanics than vanilla Doom.

A shame that nobody ever designed a map around Brutal Doom.

And

> Implying that headshots are bad

>> No.1158926

>>1158910
I would say that Hard Doom and Complex Doom improve up Doom's classic design.

Brutal Doom makes it different.

>> No.1158928

>>1158924
>Brutal Doom has more interesting gameplay mechanics than vanilla Doom.
I'm not normally one for the whole “this is bait” thing, but this is totally bait.

>> No.1158930 [DELETED] 

>>1158917
no

>> No.1158934

>>1158926
What about FKER.

>> No.1158945

>>1158934
That's just a weapons mod. It's fun though.

>> No.1158947 [DELETED] 

>>1158905
>fuck Brutal Doom and fuck Mark IV for making a mod that puts all the 12 years of hard work on the zdoom engine and was always ignored by a stupid purist like you into something that really works.

>> No.1158949

>>1158905
>Two of the guns have Iron Sights
"HURR DURR ITS JUST LIKE CALLADOODY"

>>1158928
I'm kinda with him on it, after so much vanilla I'm just totally bored of it, and can only really have fun with doom when I'm playing with mods like Accessories to Murder or Hideous Destructor or Brutal Doom, or whatever. Not that I don't make exceptions sometimes.

>> No.1158950

>>1158926
What about Burl Tumd?

Burl Tumd changes the weapons quite a bit, but it still feels like I'm playing Doom.

>> No.1158951

>>1158947
>brutal doom
>doing anything with zdoom features that aren't 4+ years old to maintain zan support
Come on, man. At least try to sound like you know what you're talking about.

>> No.1158953 [DELETED] 

>>1158947
>if you hate Brutal Doom, you're a stupid purist
>Brutal Doom is the only Doom mod that matters
>Brutal Doom is the messiah that will save this piece of shit game from dying a slow mediocre death

Hi Mark.

>> No.1158964

>>1158950
But neither that is still doom.

>> No.1158971

>>1158964
Who cares? Honestly, it's a mod, I don't expect it to feel or play exactly like doom. If I wanted to play something that feels or plays exactly like Vanilla Doom, I'd just play fucking Vanilla Doom.
Sometimes I want something different, and to me, mods like Brutal Doom, or Project MSX, or whatever are the right kind of different, I have fun with them, even if Mark is a total asshole, or if Project MSX is Sanic fast.

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>> No.1158980

>>1158979
This sums it up pretty well. People getting their panties in a bunch over a mod. Some people will have fun with it, some people won't, there's no need to shit a brick over it. Because >opinions.

>> No.1158983

>>1156436
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=7203

Big corridors with no monsters, you have to get weapons from 4 different rooms at the start and then there's no more - you get out of bullets a short while afterwards

Big rooms with only 3 monsters inside. Very bad flow. Much walking few killing.
0/10 it's shit.

>> No.1158985

>>1158971
>mod
>wad

>> No.1158990

>>1158985
>wad
>brutal doom, burl tumd, and project msx are all pk3s
nice going m8

>> No.1158991

>>1158190
what wad is that?

>> No.1158992

>>1158985
I dunno it all means the same thing to me. New maps, new weapons, new enemies, all mods to me.

>> No.1158996

>>1158947
What's ZDCMP? Chopped liver?

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>>1158983
Whoops forgot my image.
LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS TO KILL

>> No.1159001

>>1158945

>just a weapons mod

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.1159003

>>1158991
It was a remake of Ep 1, but in Doom 64 style. Looked really nice, but sorta disappeared. May or may not be worked on still.

>> No.1159006

>>1159001
>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Oh yeah. Monsters too. Dunno what I was thinking.

But that's a shitty post you made there. Nobody needs that many h's. Calm your fingers.

>> No.1159012

>>1159006

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.1159028

>>1156436
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=5892

Let's see here, Star Wars MIDI, annoying monster death sound replacements, annoying item pickup sound replacement, large and empty rooms, bad enemy placement, and shit is dark.
0/10 it's shit - IGN

>> No.1159029 [DELETED] 

>>1158953
>Implying Mark can go without telling everyone that Sergeant Mark IV

>> No.1159031 [DELETED] 

>>1158990
I'm not british you piece of shit.

>> No.1159034

>>1158926
I'll have to give both of those a try.

As for it feeling different, I don't really think so. It makes the gameplay a lot faster paced, and makes the difficulty curve steeper (it starts a lot lower because of the better beginning weapons, and winds up a fair bit higher due to the tougher late game enemies), but the basic gameplay elements that make Doom what it is are all there, unless you define Doom by limitations of its engine.

>> No.1159036

>>1158953
>Implying Mark can go without telling everyone that he's Sergeant Mark IV

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>>1159028
muh image

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>>1156436
This is a pretty OK Early Boom WAD. There's nothing special but it's a pretty cool romp through 1994 level design. There's just one thing I wanted to point out:

"JERKY LAND! That's right, even you Pentium owners (from e-mail I got) are going to suffer somewhat! You will need a fast 486 or better! (See CPU Requirements below.)"

OH U 1994 COMPUTERS

>> No.1159083

We talkin' bout brutal doom?


Brutal Doom: Good or Bad?

In a Technical aspect, it's fantastic.


We have to consider the technical aspects of the game, and how it differs from doom. I mean, people have like, multiple death animations, they can split into body parts, etc. So that's pretty impressive.

The guy seems to have reworked a LOT of the graphics and stuff. Imp's fireballs and the Lost Souls are good examples.

All the enemies have been worked to be WAY more aggressive. Which I guess means cutting their "idle" time in half, and doubling their walking speed.
Enemies will quickly cut the distance between you and them. They aggressively pursue you, and their attacks are relentless and devastating, both visually and detrimentally.

There's a visual screen effect factor that intensifies the engagements. Nearby explosions cause screenshakes, but these can also be caused by heavy footsteps. It's pretty effective.

Damage has been increased on both sides. You can kill enemies faster than before, and they can kill YOU faster than before. This serves to both increase the gameplay and slow it down simultaneously. Running out into the fray and just strafing around all the projectiles doesn't work this time with the enemies' new found speed and aggressiveness. This means battles can take longer, because you have to be more careful and wear down their forces from cover or a superior position. But you actually killing an enemy takes less time, because the damage of your weapons has been increased.

There are new enemy mechanics. The shotgun guys actually reload their weapons. And Imps will jump at you when they're trying to kill you.
Cyberdemon's can step on people now, and the pinkies can step up higher elevations... All the enemies have been affected.

And I haven't even touched on the player mechanics.

>> No.1159084 [DELETED] 

>>1159083
shut up aspie

>> No.1159086

>>1159083
The player weapon graphics are some of the best I've ever seen. Firstly, every weapon has new graphics and mechanics. The animations are incredible compared to other mods/to the original. The number of frames in each animation is much higher than what I've seen. There seems to be actual movement rather than sorting through frames. That's probably because some of the frames "move" rather than change to a new frame. The animations look pretty good. Recoil has also been added, and it's pretty apparent for some weapons.


The rifle replaces the pistol, and is one of my most favorite things about BD. And before you call me a COD babby, aiming down the sight is not inherently bad. The rifle gives you options you didn't have the previous game. It's pretty strong, too. Now you can have long range battles with other gun-havers, and I THINK you can get headshots to end the fights quicker, which is neat.

The rifle is automatic, but you can Aim down your sight to switch to semi-auto. It's a pretty smooth transition; I haven't seen anything like it in another mod. And I love that sound. The rifle has a 20 round magazine, and reloads. The one thing I hate is the rifle reloading sound. It's pretty awful. Other than that, it's excellent.


The shotgun can also aim down the sight, which is nice for far away targets. The shotgun fires faster than before, but has to be reloaded. The reloading mechanic works pretty well. Doomguy reloads one shell at a time. He still pulls the pump even if it wasn't emptied, but oh well. The shotgun sounds are very good to listen to.

The Super Shotgun is ANOTHER one of my favorite things about Brutal Doom. The Alt-Fire allows you to fire one barrel at a time. This can be fantastic for certain situations, because it gives you a semi-automatic shotgun, albeit with only 2 shells. You can reload any time there's at least one barrel empty, and there are separate animations for one barrel reloading or two. A very good piece.

>> No.1159090

>>1159086
The chain gun has been very powered up, since the rifle is about as effective relatively as the old chaingun. The new chaingun fires at a much faster rate. Unfortunately, it's also way less accurate. The sound is excellent to listen to, and enemies don't really stand a chance when you're unloading this weapon. Alt-fire allows you to spin the barrel so you can fire without delay.

With the Shotgun and chain gun, I have to mention what I believe is the absolute WORST thing about BD: corpses block shots.
This is extremely aggravating, as a room full of badguys can keep coming at you when their bretheren are shielding them.

Not much to say about the rocket launcher. It has a reloading magazine, which is annoying in this case. Has new animations and such. Explosions, too. Explosions in this game look more like Duke Nukem explosions.

The plasma gun ALSO has to be reloaded, which can be aggravating. But it is extremely powerful in this mod, so maybe that's ok. An alt-fire allows you to shoot 5 or so bolts at once, like a plasma shotgun.
When hit with plasma, enemies will become charred. Enemies also have a tendency to catch fire and run around, or get disemboweled and stand there, suffering. The game has plenty of new mechanics.

BFG. Someone said they turned it into a big green rocket, and they're probably right. I don't think the BFG acts like it did in the original. Still a powerful weapon, though.

The chainsaw has been boosted in damage power in this one, and the animation looks much better. The sprite is actually vibrating in such a way that looks pretty nice. The chainsaw can get blood on it.

>> No.1159092

>>1159090
There's a melee mechanic in this game. You can kick anytime, but depending on what you're doing, there might be a delay, which can be bad. For instance, you can't immediately kick while reloading your weapon. This is bad if an enemy is coming at you, and kind of ruins the point of the kick.
Kicking isn't about damage so much as knocking an enemy down or away to buy you some time. Which is why it sucks that it isn't instantaneous all the time. You can do a jump kick for more damage.

That being said, mod guy made this to where melee attacks do not warn enemies of your whereabouts, so that's good. You have two punches. A quick jab, and a harder cross punch. The cross punch does more knockback and damage. Also, if you sneak up behind a weaker enemy (zombies), and do the hard punch, you have a chance of silently ending them. Which can be nice if you want to start the scuffle with just one less shotgun pointed at your face.

The berserk pack allows you to perform brutal fatalities. If you finish someone with a cross punch, the camera exits doomguy to show him finishing the thing off. The bigger the enemy, the cooler the takedown animation.
But if that's not your thing, you can 'reload' to switch to smash mode, where you just punch them. Doomguy is invincible during the animation, and earns bonus health (like 10 or something) when it's done. Good timing means you could take on 3 pinkies and get 30+ health out of it.

>> No.1159094

>>1159092
SO: to recap
Good:
>Rifle, Rifle ADS, Rifle Sounds,
>Shotgun sounds, Shotgun ADS
>SShotgun semi-auto
>All new sprites, animations for your weapons
>Lots of new enemy animations for dying or "fatalities" or whatever
>muh silent takedowns
>kicking is pretty handy I guess. hue

Bad:
>Kicking isn't instantaneous all the time. I'd fix this
>While technically impressive, the BALANCE of the game may leave something to be desired. UltraViolent may leave players gasping for air, while Hurt Me Plenty leaves them with 999 ammo and half the enemies to use it on. The nature of the encounters may cause the game to come to crawl at a pace some players won't stand.
>BFG isn't quirky anymore, maybe
>It's annoying reloading some of these guns, but they're more powerful, so that helps
>This game changes Doom fundamentally, and that may not sit well with people. Dodging projectiles is more difficult now that they are like twice as fast.
>The one liners are pretty gay. I mean come on, "Go fuck yourself!"?
>The archvile has horns. Not sure if I like that or not.

Ugly:
>Corpses blocking bullets. Seriously the game would improve immensely if this were removed. The point of course is so you can shoot them to cause more gore, but I'd rather turn live enemies into gore, not dead ones.
>The innaccuracy of the chaingun is actually pretty lame, but it can't be helped I suppose


In conclusion, BD completely changes the core of Doom, and a lot of people don't like that. But as a technical modding feat, BD is very impressive. People will say it's not, but I've yet to see a mod as smooth and all-encompassing as this one. The maker needs to stop acting cool and stick to his work, though. He's obviously talented, but may need a push into the right direction.


This whole thing is assuming that the BD mod guy did this all/most of it himself.

>> No.1159095

>>1159083
>The guy seems to have aggregated a LOT of the reworked graphics and stuff made by the zdoom community without crediting them anywhere (not on the forums or any readme) except a second f1 page in game. Virtually every single graphic in the mod including weapons is a good example of this.

ftfy

>> No.1159098 [DELETED] 

>>1159083
>>1159086
>>1159090
>>1159092
>>1159094
>mark's propaganda pasta

>> No.1159101 [DELETED] 

Reminder to report shitposters.

>> No.1159103

>>1159095
also
>ironsights

>> No.1159104

>>1159095
See, I didn't know that.
>>1159094
>This whole thing is assuming that the BD mod guy did all/most by himself

>> No.1159105 [DELETED] 

>>1159101
Pussy.

>> No.1159108

>>1159103
what's wrong with ironsights?
>Call of duty is "bad"
>Call of duty uses ironsights
>∴ironsights are bad
come on

>> No.1159112 [DELETED] 

>>1159006

Are you that same faggot calling out others for shitposting on that other thread?

Christ, you're bad at 4chan.

>> No.1159113

>>1159094
>This whole thing is assuming that the BD mod guy did this all/most of it himself.
He only did the code, which is indisputably the worst part of the mod. The weapon sprites, enemy sprites, player/friendly marine VA, the miscellaneous sounds, and basically everything except the vomit-inducing code was done by other people in the community. It's easy to make the assumption that he did it all, though, because the only place you can find any credits is on the second F1 screen, and even then, the VA isn't listed.

>> No.1159116 [DELETED] 

>>1159112
>being Mexican

MY FUCKING SIDES

>> No.1159118

>>1159113
The graphics are HEAVY edits of other's people work, that doesn't even looks like the original graphics anymore, not other's people work directly controlpasted.

>> No.1159120

>>1159108
>vanilla Doom
>need to make a precision shot with no chance of missing
>take out chaingun or pistol, take shot
>no hindrances at all

>brutal doom
>need to make a precision shot
>can't use minigun because it has huge spread and recoil
>take out rifle
>aim down sights, reducing movement speed, FOV, and covering half the screen with the huge ADS sprite
>take shot
And that's the problem.

>> No.1159121 [DELETED] 

>>1159108
Shut up you fucking casual. That's one reason why cod is bad, not because cod is bad itself.

Stick with consoles you little niglet contrarian fucker.

>> No.1159125 [DELETED] 

>>1159116
I hate spics, stay in mexico and keep your cartels with you.

>> No.1159127

>>1158996
ZDCMP can be played with autoaim, and particles and other special decorate effects are barely used, not even getting close of the full potential offered by Zdoom.

>> No.1159130

>>1159113
How is the code the worst part? It's what ties everything together.
It's also what (I assume) makes his game changing things possible.

And beyond that, who gives a shit? He credited them in the credits section. He took these things that people gave to the community and made a neat mod out of them.
Are you going to shitpost someone who made a house because he used other people's bricks?

>>1159120
>an actual argument
Yeah, I can get that. Before we just pressed 4 and used the chaingun, now we have to go find our rifle ads. It's a legitimate complaint.

Unlike
>>1159121

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>>1154789

>MFW a DOOM thread

http://youtu.be/-XhsuJLA3ko

>> No.1159132 [DELETED] 

>>1159108
i wanna play a video GAME not a american imperialism murder stimulator in 3D coming to IMAX this fall

>> No.1159135 [DELETED] 

>>1159121
You have no Idea how unintentionally pathetic you just made yourself look.

>> No.1159136 [DELETED] 

>>1159121
>Call of Duty Sucks
>Call of Duty has guns
>Doom has guns
>Doom sucks

>> No.1159138 [DELETED] 

>>1159130
casual

>> No.1159139 [DELETED] 

>>1159135
>>1159136
Stop giving him attention.

>> No.1159140 [DELETED] 

>>1159136
>>1159135
samefag
also
>samefag is mad cant play doom the way it is meant to be played
>gets destroyed in any online pc fps game with mouselook
>cant aim without ironsights because muh realism and his shitty eyes
>too poor to afford glasses and wastes his money on overpriced consoles
>takes him self seriously on 4chan
>should be on reddit

>> No.1159141 [DELETED] 

>>1159130
>>1159135
>>1159136
>>1159139
Report these shitposters.

>>1159136
Says the kid who discovered doom because of /vr/.

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I don't even know what the fuck is going on right now. Could the brutal doom fag pls go so that we can resume our discussion about other stuff.

>> No.1159145 [DELETED] 

>>1159142
Report the shitposter and stop giving him what he wants.

>> No.1159146 [DELETED] 

>>1159142
Brutal doom brings all the newfags to the yard.
>omg this doom game is so kool and retro!!111

>> No.1159147

>>1159130
The code's the worst part because it is actually disgusting to look at and try to understand.

>he credited them in the credits section
Except he didn't credit everyone (see: THE GODDAMN VA, and I'm sure he's not the only example), and he hid the credits in a place you wouldn't think to look. Most mods might include credits in the forum topics, in the readme, in a .txt inside the mod, or something easily found. But who honestly looks at the F1 screen in the first place? And if you accidentally pressed F1, you'd likely just hit escape to get rid of it and never see the credits. Nobody would look for credits on the second page of the F1 screen.

>> No.1159149 [DELETED] 

>>1159140
So, do you play Doom the way it was made to be played? On MSDOS, not using the mouse and cheap straferunning tactics? I highly doubt, newfag.

>> No.1159151 [DELETED] 

>>1159145
Yeah I'm the shitposter because I have a different (and more correct) opinion. 4chan isn't your hugbox you liberal retard.
Shouldn't you be playing on your xbawx260?

>> No.1159157 [DELETED] 

OP, I think this is the perfect time to delete the thread.
It has gone knee deep in the shit.

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>>1159149
>not using the mouse
What sort of turbopleb actually did this? The fucking hint manual for Wolf3d recommended using the mouse.

>> No.1159159

>>1159147
>The credits section
>A place you wouldn't think to look for credits
k

Also, I don't really care if the code is difficult to understand if it works. I'm talking about the mod itself, not coder conduct.

>>1159145
>the shitposter
which one

>>1159142
People were already talking about bd. I just gave my opinion, that's all.

>> No.1159161

>>1159147
If you think that the F1 page is not enough, don't you think that going to the brutal doom facebook page, sending an inbox message telling him to include a .txt file giving credits to everyone instead just leaving it to an alt F1 page would be a much more effective way to solve this issue instead of shitposting on /vr/?

>> No.1159164
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>>1159161
>facebook
Not even once.

>> No.1159165

Anyways lets change the subject. What is the consensus on Project MSX?

I really like how fucking fast everything is.

>> No.1159167

>>1159164
what about an e-mail?

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>>1159165
bretty gud/10
punch cyberbutts everyday

>> No.1159169

>>1159158
Not everybody used the mouse. Calm yo tits.

>> No.1159170

>>1159094
SO: to recap

Things Mark is responsible for:

Good:
>Aggregating graphics made by the zdoom community, including weapons and sprites (projectile, monster, and altdeaths)
>Aggregating sounds from other sources
>Taking decorate code from other mods (with permission, they were all "free to use", though he didn't really do a good job of crediting them)
>muh silent takedowns (involves removing "A_AlertMonsters" from weapons)
>kicking is pretty handy I guess. If he understood code better he could have used a better method as other mods do
>Some portions of coding

Bad:
>Mark's coding is buggy as hell and overall atrocious
>Kicking isn't instantaneous all the time, due to Mark's buggy code
>the BALANCE of the game may leave something to be desired.
>BFG is impossible to use in many classic wads
>It's annoying reloading some of these guns
>This game changes Doom fundamentally, and that may not sit well with people. (Dodging projectiles is about the same speed as +fastmonsters, which most purists play on)
>The one liners are pretty gay. I mean come on, "Go fuck yourself!"?
>using a sprite for the archvile with horns
>the many many bugs, for most of which fixes exist and have been implemented for similar issues in other mods/wads already but beacuse of mark's stupidity/laziness/ignorance have not been implemented in BD
>wallowing in adulation and praise for the work of others while making no real attempt to thank them for or note their contributions (seriously find anywhere--even forum posts--where he thanks anyone other than that second f1 screen)

Ugly:
>Corpses blocking bullets. Seriously the game would improve immensely if this were removed. The point of course is so you can shoot them to cause more gore (there are fixes for this that he hasn't implemented, such as simply changing actor height)
>The innaccuracy of the chaingun is actually pretty lame

>> No.1159172

>>1159170
Things Mark isn't responsible for:

Good:
>Rifle, Rifle ADS, Rifle Sounds,
>Shotgun sounds, Shotgun ADS
>SShotgun semi-auto
>All new sprites, animations for your weapons
>Lots of new enemy animations for dying or "fatalities" or whatever
>lots of decorate coding
>lots of acs scripting

Bad:
>The archvile has horns. While mark did choose to put it in his wad, he didn't create the monster sprite himself, so at least some of the blame lies with others.

>> No.1159174

>>1159167
>>1159161

We (as in me, as in someone you probably don't know) have asked him to include a more in-depth credits list.
He has said he won't because it would be too much work.

>> No.1159178

>>1159172
Fun fact: the BD archvile's just the R667 diabolist recolored back to the archvile's coloring.

>> No.1159179

>>1159147
>The code's the worst part because it is actually disgusting to look at and try to understand
Fucking this. Trying to tailor the mod to your own tastes or trying to learn a thing or two from it is a goddamn nightmare. It's like he gets an idea while at a cafe somewhere and then just stuffs it in whenever. Find a new way to do something? He just comments out the old shit and leaves it there until everything's like a big tree stump. He also seems to have an extreme aversion to the tab key.

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>>1159179
His code is not hard to read. If this is hard for you to read, you have a severe case of autism.

>> No.1159184

>>1159118
*SOME of the graphics are HEAVY edits of other people's work.

>> No.1159185

>>1159181
I already have a headache and I don't want to pretend to understand ACS

>> No.1159187

>>1159181
>no proper indenting
>random space indenting
>doesn't use normal recoil, instead uses custom inventory
>still doesn't use ZDoom's reload function
>no comments to tell what ACS scripts those are
>not simply amalgamating most of his objects into single objects which run different frame loops
yeah nah, you're a cunt

>> No.1159192

>>1159187
>still doesn't use ZDoom's reload function

Not that I care for Brutal Doom or Mark's coding practices, but I'm pretty sure this is just because Zandronum doesn't have it yet.

inb4 >modding for zandronum

>> No.1159195

>>1159120
The rifle is just as accurate without the sights though. They're more just for people who like them than anything.

I don't think brutal doom "is doom but more doom like" or anything retarded like that, but the inane shit you people bitch about does get annoying sometimes.

Conversely people who praise brutal like the second coming of doom jesus are just as fucking stupid. Shit though. Man.

>> No.1159202

>>1159195
>The rifle is just as accurate without the sights though.
Actually I just tested it. It used to be if I remember right though. I hadn't really played brutal much for a few versions. Because it gets old (like any mod).

>> No.1159203

>>1159192
Zandronum has it, ZDoom's had it for years.

>> No.1159206 [DELETED] 

>>1159147
just fucking say he cant write acs for shit

>>1159149
Mouselook makes the game show it's age, I'd rather play a more modern fps game if I want mouselook.

>cheap straferunning tactics
haha, this noob is only aware of straferunning, isn't aware that playing without mouselook makes straferunning easier and thinks straferunning is cheap

>msdos
>isn't aware of chocodoom if i wanted straight vanilla
>isn't aware of zdaemon which genuinely improves on vanilla
>only knows about doom because of /vr/

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>>1159206
>ZDaemon

>> No.1159209

>>1159203
zandronum does not have a reload button unless the modder defines it

>> No.1159212 [DELETED] 

>>1159208
>noob

>> No.1159213

>>1159209
You clearly don't know what you're fucking talking about, because that isn't what I'm talking about.

>> No.1159223

>>1159213
>doesn't use zdoom reload button
>that's because it's also a z& mod and z& doesn't have it
>but z& has it and zdoom has had it for years
>uh no z& doesn't have it
>SHUT UP YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

>> No.1159226

>>1159149
You could play vanilla doom with mouse and keyboard though... Just change your controls in setup.exe...

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>>1159213
Don't be facetious, he's right.
See pic and >>1158601

>> No.1159230

>>1159226
>mouselook not mouse

>> No.1159232

>>1159230
You could. Setup WASD in setup and just use the mouse for turning. It wasn't freelook, but you could circle strafe like a motherfucker using it.

It's how Romero used to play and everything, though probably not WASD exactly.

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>>1159212
Anyone who advocates ZDaemon over something like Odamex needs to go die in a fire.

>> No.1159235 [DELETED] 

>>1159234
>odamex: multiplayer
>zdaemon: singleplayer
stay on zandronum forums where you belong faggot

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>>1159206
>>1159212
>using the word "noob" unironically

>> No.1159238 [DELETED] 

>>1159236
>calling yourself a "princess"

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>>1159235
Why the fuck would you use ZDaemon for singleplayer?
That's what ZDoom is for! That's what PRBoom is for! THAT'S WHAT FUCKING VANILLA DOOM IS FOR!!!

>> No.1159240 [DELETED] 

>>1159239
Botmatches

>> No.1159242 [DELETED] 

>>1159240
>Botmatches
Then for what half-assed reason aren't you using Zandronum?

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>>1159240
THAT'S MULTIPLAYER YOU CUNTSUCKING FAGGOT.
ZANDRONUM HAS BOTS. ZDOOM HAS ZCAJUN SUPPORT.

>> No.1159246 [DELETED] 

>>1159243
>ZCAJUN
Is that some sort of beaner word?

>> No.1159247

>>1159243
And MBF has the helperdogs that have been ported to several other ports.

>>1159246
http://zdoom.org/wiki/Bots

>> No.1159249 [DELETED] 

trolled hard

>> No.1159251 [DELETED] 

>>1159238
>talking back to royalty

>> No.1159252 [DELETED] 

>>1159251
>bitch

>> No.1159254

>>1159243
>I'm fucking retarded

Singleplayer is game play that isn't multiplayer.
Even though eg. Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament are multiplayer games, their campaigns are basically botmatches, so I consider them singleplayer. You don't call the 1 player mode of SF2 multiplayer (unless someone challenges you) do you?

>> No.1159260

>>1159254
Ok, yeah, as a Quake 3 afficianado I understand and agree with that, but my point that Z&/Zcajun/MBF/MBF Derivatives have bot support and are generally better engines still stands.

>> No.1159281

>mma wad

>> No.1159291

>>1156483
Doom 2 shits on doom 1 and quake shits on both of them.

>> No.1159315

Can someone recommend me a pretentious 2deep4u wad?

>> No.1159316

>>1159281

What you're looking for is called doomfighters

Check zandronum every once in a while, they might have a server up

>> No.1159324

>>1159315
There was a gone homo wad being made, unsure about it's current state though.

>> No.1159325

>>1159315

Not sure if anyone in this thread happens to have it, but check Zygo's Rootpain

>> No.1159334

>>1159324
I wouldn't even call that pretentious or 2deep4u. I'd call it "I'm butthurt because an indie game is popular and feel the need to channel my childish agitation into something moderately creative, so I made a mod for doom to poke fun at it."

Seriously. I can understand the "It's not a real game argument", because it's really not, it's more or less an interactive story, and most people I think would agree. I just don't get the shitfit some people throw over a simple game.

>> No.1159340

>>1159334
>gone home
>game
>gone home
>not deserving of mockery for how shit it is

>> No.1159341

>>1159315
Rootpain.

>>1159334
Because it's gotten a lot of praise and some have called it the Citizen Kane of gaming.
Which is apparently a bad thing or something I guess
Metroid Prime was called the Citizen Kane of gaming, go ahead and shit on that and see what happens

>> No.1159345

>>1159325
>>1159341
Can someone give me a download link?

>> No.1159346 [DELETED] 

>>1159334
>>1159341
Careful guys if you say bad stuff about Gone Homo Impse might talk in the IRC about how mean CZ is being to him!

>> No.1159348

>>1159340
What? I said it's not a game, I don't get how it's shit at all, it's just an interactive story, and a decently written one at that.

>>1159341
Now Prime is deserving of that title for sure.

>>1159346
CZ?

>> No.1159349

>>1159345
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8cy9fu93ostcew/ROOTPAIN.wad

Load in ZDoom.

>> No.1159350 [DELETED] 

>>1159348
/v/ initially hated it because it was more an interactive story then they found out it was about a lesbian couple that WASN'T for fanservice reasons so they decided to focus their hate over that.

>> No.1159351 [DELETED] 

>>1159348
>CZ
We have two major cuntmonglers here, DoomkartGuy and CuddlyZebesian, both of which are massive cocksuckers and dramaqueens.
When Impse started Gone Homo he received nothing but adulation from /v/ but /vr/ had a "meh" at best reaction, mostly over the fact that it was a lame as hell joke.

For some reason he thought the criticism was coming from CZ samefagging himself and went to great lengths in the IRC to try and prove it
Impse's actually a cool guy tho

>> No.1159353 [DELETED] 

>>1159350
Of course, that sounds like typical /v/.

>>1159351
I've heard of DKG, never seen him post, same with CZ.

>> No.1159354 [DELETED] 

>>1159350
>"A female character I can't masturbate to? Fucking tumblr feminist bullshit."

Sounds like /v/ in a nutshell.

>> No.1159356 [DELETED] 

>>1159353
CZ posts as zenon or something

>> No.1159360 [DELETED] 

>>1159353
It was during the early days of these threads, he still posts occasionally, but they get deleted as soon as they appear.

>> No.1159361 [DELETED] 

>>1159356

No, the two are entirely separate people.

>> No.1159363 [DELETED] 

>>1159353
http://cuddlyzebesian.tumblr.com/tagged/zebesian

This is basically all you need to know about CZ.

>> No.1159365

Impse made a parody of Gone Home, called Gone Homo?

If that's true, I've lost a lot of respect for him.

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>>1159363

well that is something i never wanted to fucking see ever

>> No.1159368

>>1159365
Oh it was Impse that made it? Well I he just earned my 5000 giga yoloswags of respect.

>> No.1159369 [DELETED] 

The Doom community is made up entirely of drama whores, prove me wrong.

>> No.1159370 [DELETED] 

>>1159369
Mark isn't the entire Doom community.

>> No.1159371 [DELETED] 

Do not reply to the posts above.

ALso, new thread plos.

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>>1159363

>> No.1159376 [DELETED] 

>>1159370
I think he's talking about us.

He's right too.

Captcha: sigmoid udyamen

>Sigmoids are an alien race entirely made up of Sigmund Freuds.

>> No.1159382

1monster.wad is pretty fun, guys, you should try it.

>> No.1159387 [DELETED] 

New thread!

>>1159386

>> No.1159395 [DELETED] 

>>1159387
the fuck are you doing?

>> No.1159397 [DELETED] 

>>1159387
>still on page 1
>new thread
Breaking news: tripfag is retarded. Stay tuned for the exclusive interview and whole scoop after the commercial break.

>> No.1159398 [DELETED] 

>>1159395
Making a new thread, because this one has reached the bump limit.

>> No.1159404 [DELETED] 

>>1159351

>For some reason he thought the criticism was coming from CZ samefagging himself and went to great lengths in the IRC to try and prove it

but he was right, cz posted a reaction pic which matched a deleted post in foolz that was made by him

among other things and pics that seem to tell that both shitposters may know each other, which im not even sure if i should link

i mean, theyre both zandronum regulars, they seem to hold a grudge against anything from the zdoom forums...

>> No.1159405 [DELETED] 

>>1159397
>>still on page 1
It's not, though. Whoops, there went your whole argument!

>> No.1159407 [DELETED] 

>>1159387
1: We wait for the new thread until page 5/6.
2: You didn't use the OPpasta.
Would you kindly baleet the other thread and wait?

>> No.1159408 [DELETED] 

>>1159405
>muh leejun /v/tards
>capible of making arguments

I'M DYING OF LAUGHTER

>> No.1159413 [DELETED] 

>>1159404
>but he was right
But he wasn't. Hell, I was one of the big critics, and I'm pretty certain I'm not CZ.

>> No.1159414 [DELETED] 

>>1159397
We just received word that there's a bump limit, which means that a thread stops bumping after 500 posts

>> No.1159415 [DELETED] 

>>1159405
Oh, so it's on page 2 because princess tripfaggot over here made the new thread. We don't make new threads until the current one is on page 6 to prevent cluttering the board with Doom threads.

>> No.1159416 [DELETED] 

>>1159414
See
>>1159407

>> No.1159417 [DELETED] 

>>1159408
>Anyone on 4chan
>Able to make an argument
Hilarious indeed

>> No.1159418 [DELETED] 

>>1159397
>>>/v/

>> No.1159427 [DELETED] 

>>1159415
>to prevent cluttering the board with Doom threads
That doesn't make any sense. Whether you make a new thread instantly or wait until the old thread reaches page 6, you still only have two threads at any given time. How is that "clutter"?

>> No.1159434 [DELETED] 

>>1159427
Doom threads are far faster-paced than any other thread on the board. If we make threads as soon as we reach the bump limit, we get 3, sometimes 4 threads up at once because the rest of the board is so slow in comparison. We used to do this in the earlier days of the board, and it very nearly got us booted to /vg/, where we would've died a slow, rotten death. Nobody here wants that, so we decided to only start new threads once the bump limit one reached page 6.

>> No.1159447 [DELETED] 

Eric just went to the zone

This is going to be a long-ass weekend for sure

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>>1159434
Sorry. I didn't know.

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>>1159434
>booted to /vg/

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>> No.1159469 [DELETED] 

>>1159460
/vg/ can be good if you avoid the containment threads (/sc2/, /lol/, /dota/, /ksg/. /fgg/ and /srg/)

>> No.1159471 [DELETED] 

>>1159447
wat

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>>1159471

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>>1159474
plus wildweasel's response

>> No.1159494 [DELETED] 

>>1159447
>>1159474

I'm not particularly fond of Brutal Doom (it's fun for a while but then gets tiresome really fast) but this horde of chronically butthurt vindictive faggots that follow him around are so fucking pathetic.

All they are mad about is that so many people from outside the community pay attention to that particular mod because of MUH VANILLA IS KILL and MUH BETTER MODS NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO. It's basically a huge stop liking what I don't like bitchfest. Only that they aren't talking about what they are really mad about, they are looking to blow every little thing they can find out of proportion, feign being offended about shit they don't really care about, all in an effort to force a dude out of the community who just wants to make his mods.

It's fucking disgusting.

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>>1159480

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>>1159494
>All they are mad about is that so many people from outside the community pay attention to that particular mod because of MUH VANILLA IS KILL and MUH BETTER MODS NOBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO.

>> No.1159506 [DELETED] 

>>1159474
How come there are so many gore hating moralfaggots in the Doom community? It's kind of bizarre to say the least.

>> No.1159509 [DELETED] 

>>1159494
Next time, may I advise that you acquaint yourself with the context before defending your abusive internet boyfriend?

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37728&start=15#p718236

ps. he doesn't love you and only pretends to care about you so he can brag about how great his mod is

>> No.1159510 [DELETED] 

>>1159506
>so many gore hating moralfaggots in the Doom community
Sure
Keep telling yourself that

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>>1159474
>a headshot hitbox the size of your ego

>> No.1159523 [DELETED] 

>>1159510
How is he "telling himself that"? Right in the post he is replying to the guy bitches and moans because of the Gore in a mod that was originally for Gore in the first place.

>> No.1159524 [DELETED] 

>>1159506
>moralfaggot
>>>/v/

Back to containment

>> No.1159525 [DELETED] 

>>1159506
>>>>/b/

>> No.1159528 [DELETED] 

>>1159523
Why the fuck are you capitalizing gore you little edgy tween

>> No.1159531 [DELETED] 

>>1159523

He's not bitching and moaning about the gore, he's saying that it's the only part of it that wasn't shamelessly ripped off from elsewhere and presented (though not outwardly claimed) as his own work.

>> No.1159532 [DELETED] 

>>1159531
No, he wasn't.

"There's a particularly worrying emphasis on torture and ridiculously excessive violence, almost like you were bullied in school (but not quite at the level of insanity as our best buddies Klebold and Harris) and this is your way of venting, as it were."

>> No.1159535 [DELETED] 

>>1159532
>>1159523
back to bestgore.com you nutty teenager

>> No.1159537 [DELETED] 

>>1159535
(I'm >>1159532)
I'm sorry I clarified what someone else said. My mistake. I didn't realize that was a criminal
misdemeanor on 4chan.

>> No.1159539 [DELETED] 

>>1159509

>Next time, may I advise that you acquaint yourself with the context before defending your abusive internet boyfriend?
>ps. he doesn't love you and only pretends to care about you so he can brag about how great his mod is

Are you mentally challenged? Do you have problems with reading comprehension?

I don't give a shit about the dude. I also don't particularly enjoy his mod. So you can take your pathetic ad hom attempts and shove them deep into your ass.

It doesn't matter how shitty his mod is or how shitty you think it is. There's a bunch of fags trying to bully the guy out of the community under false pretenses and it is fucking disgusting.

And let's be real here, do you honestly think people aren't jealous of his success? When 's the last time a Doom mod got coverage in the gaming press? When's the last time id software blew smoke up a modder on Twitter? When's the last time kiddies gamers starting playing a mod for an old as fuck game they probably never even heard of before?

If you hate the guy and his mod as much as you obviously do, that shit must make your blood boil. Don't even try to pretend otherwise.

>> No.1159546 [DELETED] 

>>1159474
>being this mad

Aside from the fact his criticism of the gameplay is spotty at best (I've never found the chaingun useless, it's pretty handy when you're dealing with large numbers of enemy, rather than being the merciless sniping weapon it is in vanilla, and much like in vanilla, the SSG pretty handily eclipses the basic shotgun in my experience). It's his criticism of the new blood in the community, being pissy about people playing only brutal doom or modding brutal Doom exclusively, that gets me. It's basically the very height of "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE" in one very drawn out forum post in the most pathetic fashion possible.

>>1159509
Why should anyone care? There are lots of content creators out there that fucking hate my guts and are self absorbed egomaniacs. It doesn't make their particular creations any worse.

>> No.1159550 [DELETED] 

>>1159539
>And let's be real here, do you honestly think people aren't jealous of his success? When 's the last time a Doom mod got coverage in the gaming press? When's the last time id software blew smoke up a modder on Twitter? When's the last time kiddies gamers starting playing a mod for an old as fuck game they probably never even heard of before?

>If you hate the guy and his mod as much as you obviously do, that shit must make your blood boil. Don't even try to pretend otherwise.

This. It must drive purists and modders just absolutely apeshit that a mod they don't like created by a man they don't like is doing so well.

>> No.1159551 [DELETED] 

>>1159532
Doom is a gory game, yes.
However, there is no point in Doom where an enemy is defeated, yet still suffering. An enemy's health reaches 0, it's dead. It doesn't sit there, with a pained look on its face, incapable of fighting back, making ear-raping screaming sounds, waiting for you to torment it further to get "cruelty bonuses". Hell, in vanilla Doom you can't even try to shoot at the corpse once an enemy's dead, because there's no vertical freelook. Doom was bloody, but it wasn't a torture simulator. You played it to shoot demons, not to see how many cruelty bonuses you could beat out of an imp.

>> No.1159552 [DELETED] 

>>1159546
>It's basically the very height of "STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE" in one very drawn out forum post in the most pathetic fashion possible

Exactly my point. That is what it all boils down to.

>> No.1159553 [DELETED] 

>>1159551
>torture simulator

My my, doesn't someone sound like the 1999 new media.

>> No.1159560 [DELETED] 

>>1159551
>torture simulator

My my, doesn't someone sound like the 1999 news media.

>> No.1159561 [DELETED] 

>>1159546
maybe if you understood it you'd see that he's ripping brutal doom a new one for bringing in a fanbase that even sgt mark disdains, as well as being a giant asshole and getting away with it

he's not hating on the community, he's hating on how sgt mark doesn't even like his own community, and can't even be bothered to show common courtesy

also dressing down brutal doom because fuck it does not deserve all the praise it gets

>> No.1159564 [DELETED] 

>>1159539
>And let's be real here, do you honestly think people aren't jealous of his success?
Sure, his fans are probably pretty jealous. The post specifically stated critics, though, because that seems to be the idea running through Mark's head - that anyone who criticizes brutal doom only does so because they're jealous. The entire post went on to explain, in excessive detail, why critics aren't jealous of Brutal Doom.

>> No.1159567 [DELETED] 

>>1159560
Thanks for actually giving a counterargument.

>> No.1159569 [DELETED] 

>>1159551
Also, you realize how close Mark was to putting real gore sprites in Brutal Doom? Like, actual gore from photos of car crashes and stuff. The only thing that stopped him was the entire community's collective "WTF."

It's like Mark has no human empathy whatsoever.

>> No.1159570 [DELETED] 

>>1158979
Oh man. This is pretty old.

>> No.1159574 [DELETED] 

>>1159560
>the 1999 news media

The thing is, Brutal Doom actually IS the game Jack Thompson pictures in his mind when he thinks of Doom.

>> No.1159575 [DELETED] 

>>1159574
and how can this be something bad?

>> No.1159576 [DELETED] 

>>1159561
>also dressing down brutal doom because fuck it does not deserve all the praise it gets

According to who? You? Him?

>>1159567
What fucking counter argument could there be? Them calling Doom a murder simulator back then is just as retarded as you calling it a torture simulator now. You're basically just fishing for shit to use to snipe at something you don't like.

>> No.1159578 [DELETED] 

>>1159480
>Eric_
isn't that the guy that made furry porn wads?

>> No.1159580 [DELETED] 

>>1159564
You don't have to like something to be jealous of its success.

You are mad because something you think is shit and doesn't deserve praise and attention gets a shitload of praise and attention. That feeling is called being jealous.

>> No.1159583 [DELETED] 

>>1159580
>That feeling is called being jealous.
THAT IS NOT WHAT JEALOUSY IS

JEALOUSY IS NOT "MAN THIS GUY DOESN'T DESERVE THE PRAISE"

JEALOUSY IS "I WANT THE PRAISE THAT THIS GUY GETS"

THAT IS JEALOUSY

JEALOUSY IS NOT HATING BRUTAL DOOM

JEALOUSY IS WANTING TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS BRUTAL DOOM

FOR FUCK'S SAKE

YES I'M MAD

>> No.1159584 [DELETED] 

>>1159576
So SimCity can't be a city simulator simply because of the time period it was created in?

>> No.1159587 [DELETED] 

>>1159574
No really. Doom is the game Jack Thompson pictures in his head. He considered it a murder simulator when people fell in a vaguely red heap on the ground. This is more violent, but more violence isn't really an objectively bad thing. I can see where it would turn some people off, but as this go-to criticism that /vr/ likes to treat the gore as, it's a load of horse-shit as /vr/ seems to just fucking gobble up ketchup, hell it even has a mention in the FAQ while Brutal Doom is conveniently absent.

>> No.1159590 [DELETED] 

>>1159587
>objectively

>> No.1159591 [DELETED] 

>>1159584
Sim city was expressly designed to simulate the functions of a city. Being able to kick a dying zombie in the face does not make Brutal Doom a murder simulator since that's just one feature in a much larger game.

>> No.1159592 [DELETED] 

>>1159551
i'd say it's because doom was first made as an alien game, so a game where you're scared of every enemy, and pretty much powerless.
that, and probably the engine limitations of the time.

nowdays (since "updated" versions of FO2) you can't even shoot kids in videogames.
the whole "torture your enemies for bonus health" reminds me of the "kill your boss" flashgame (really fun in a silly way)

>>1159569
yeah, i think that was a mistake.
i mean, HD "real" gore would blend poorly with the doom sprites.

>> No.1159593 [DELETED] 

>>1159539
>>1159546

I'm not the guy you're replying to, but the reason I dislike him is his lack of any proper crediting for the people that made the assets (graphics, sounds, decorate and acs) that he either used directly or modified.

Without them his mod would not have been possible. And the only way he's ever credited or even acknowledged any of them is with an incomplete list only viewable as a second help screen that is not mentioned anywhere. When asked if he will ever make a more complete credits list or include it in a more conspicuous place he declines because it will be "too much hassle." He has no problem with people making the mistake of thinking BD is soley his work--look earlier the thread when someone defending it was under the impression he did everything. Hell, half of the gaming site articles present BD as a vanilla doom mod--without any mention of zdoom--as if it was a source port and mod all in one, solely the work of Sgt. Mark.

So yes; the coverage and praise he's received is angering. Not because of the praise itself but because he's presenting the work of others as his own. In my book that makes someone a scumbag.

>> No.1159594 [DELETED] 

>>1159583
>JEALOUSY IS NOT "MAN THIS GUY DOESN'T DESERVE THE PRAISE"

Yes, it does. I suggest you invest in a dictionary.

>> No.1159595 [DELETED] 

>>1159590
Don't bring attention to it. Report and ignore it.

>> No.1159597 [DELETED] 

>>1159590
I see no problem with that word in the context of that post.

>> No.1159598 [DELETED] 

>>1159591
Your argument was that people couldn't see Doom as a murder simulator because it was made in 1990s.

>> No.1159602 [DELETED] 

>>1159580
I don't think Brutal Doom is shit. It's overrated and has a lot of tasteless features packed into it, but still above-average. You want to see shit, look at some of the fan-made mods for Brutal Doom. That's some low-quality shit right there.

>> No.1159603 [DELETED] 

I came from seeing this argument outside the thread, and are you people seriously arguing/responding about claims that DOOM is a murder simulator?

You...you don't ever commit murder in DOOM. Murder is not the same as killing. They are in no way synonymous.

People taking this claim seriously as well as anyone pushing it are being silly.

>> No.1159604 [DELETED] 

>>1159594
#rekt

>> No.1159605 [DELETED] 

>>1159595
Frivolous reporting can get you banned.

>> No.1159606 [DELETED] 

>>1159578

no, I know who you're referring to, but not the name

it wasn't eric

>> No.1159607 [DELETED] 

>>1159593
>I'm not the guy you're replying to, but the reason I dislike him is his lack of any proper crediting for the people that made the assets (graphics, sounds, decorate and acs) that he either used directly or modified.

Well how do those people feel about it? Are they enraged they aren't credited properly? Have they told him to stop using their shit and he didn't take it out?

Because if not, it's pretty pathetic to get so worked up about something on the behalf of others, when they don't even care.

>> No.1159608 [DELETED] 

>>1159539
>There's a bunch of fags trying to bully the guy out of the community under false pretenses
Hi Mark, we're trying to get you out of our fucking faces because you're an annoying self-absorbed cunt who embodies everything wrong with this fanbase.

>> No.1159609 [DELETED] 

>>1159578
>furry porn wads

How does that even work? Just maps with images of furry porn on the walls?

I don't get it.

>> No.1159610 [DELETED] 

>>1159598
So you're telling me what my argument is?

Fuck you, and the horse it took to haul you in here. My argument is that calling anything a simulator when it wasn't expressly designed as a simulator (I don't see him including realistic pain responses and the ability to provide medical care so they don't die of shock or the like) is fucking retarded.

>> No.1159612 [DELETED] 

>>1159576
according to me, Eric, legion, pretty much the entirety of doomworld, pretty much anyone who plays competitively in doom, and most prolific modders

there is nothing in brutal doom that pushes the engine to its limits, there is nothing super innovative, there is nothing in there I'm couldn't figure out the mechanics of in three seconds of thinking

the mod is mediocrity exemplified, with fifty gallons of blood in it, and it got a following somehow

why should that deserve praise

>> No.1159613 [DELETED] 

>>1159594
>Yes, it does. I suggest you invest in a dictionary.

>resentment against a rival, a person enjoying success or advantage against another's success or advantage itself.

SOMEONE HAS SOMETHING YOU DON'T
YOU WANT IT
YOU GET UPSET
THAT IS FUCKING JEALOUSY

JEALOUSY IS NOT "I HATE BRUTAL DOOM"
JEALOUSY IS "I WANT BRUTAL DOOM'S SUCCESS"
YOU
DENSE
FUCK

>> No.1159614 [DELETED] 

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

>> No.1159617 [DELETED] 

Yeah, this is definitely a /v/ raid.

>> No.1159618

>>1159609
i think he made a dialogue simulator (think, like a visual novel" in the doom engine and used furries as a tech demo / joke
but i could be thinking about something else

>> No.1159619 [DELETED] 

>>1159608
I thought it was the circlejerking nostalgia faggotry? I know it sure came close to pushing me away from Doom entirely.

>> No.1159623 [DELETED] 

>>1159569
He's brazilian, what do you expect.
third world country monkey

>> No.1159624 [DELETED] 

>>1159612
Yet your pet mod never got mention in gaming media or a thumbs up from Id, did it? What makes your opinions more valid?

>> No.1159627 [DELETED] 

>>1159624
Modern id's opinion is worth jack shit.

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How long have you nerds been slapfighting?

Jesus. Why don't all act like big girls and play some Doom?

>> No.1159636 [DELETED] 

>>1159624
john romero's thumb is the only valid one if you ask me...

>> No.1159638 [DELETED] 

>>1159624

and getting mentioned on the news makes a mod better how?

until you can actually give me solid reasons, intrinsic to the mod, that brutal doom is worth its praise, yeah, my (not to mention half the doom community's) opinion is more valid than yours, because I can actually back my opinion up with solid facts and argue it, as opposed to moving the goalposts coinstantly

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1159639

I am the DarkLord420.

I must have my Gore and Violence to soothe my inner Satan.

>> No.1159641 [DELETED] 

>>1159636
Exactly! The gay that made rainbow six and daikatana. That guy must really know what a good doom mod is.

>> No.1159642 [DELETED] 

>>1159638
>solid facts

Like what?

>> No.1159643 [DELETED] 

>>1159624
A shitty car mod got a shittaku article. Is that mod the next brutal doom? Not at all.

>> No.1159645 [DELETED] 

>>1159607
>Well how do those people feel about it? Are they enraged they aren't credited properly? Have they told him to stop using their shit and he didn't take it out?

They're the ones that asked if he would ever make a more complete credits lists. He said no, and they either didn't reply back or just kind of responded "O-oh, that's alright." Or they've never said anything about it directly (anywhere publicly anyway) because they're too polite, and just let their "free use, please give credit" contributions to the doom community remain uncredited.

His voice actor (who is still uncredited anywhere) did tell him that he needed to remove the "racist" plasma comment thing or he would have to stop using his voice acting in the mod.

Mark's response was essentially "Calm down, I'm removing it. No need to be such a faggot about it. Also I'm only removing this as a courtesy to you, since you already agreed to let me use the voice acting I can continue using it no matter what, you can sue me if you have a problem with it, deal with it."

>> No.1159646 [DELETED] 

>>1159613
No, that does mean you are jealous.

The word you are looking for, that you claim not to be, is envious. Which is what you would be if you wanted his success for yourself.

>> No.1159647

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6hB9NTYD0E

OP, you know what to do.

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>>1159645
oi

nerd

shush

doom

it's video games

play them

>> No.1159650

>>1159618
oh god
can we
stop talking about brutal doom
and talk about this
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=23731&p=461909

because this was the most retarded shit ever

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>>1159646

No, it doesn't. I suggest you invest in a dictionary.

Get fucked, nerd.

>> No.1159652 [DELETED] 

>>1159638
Also, if /vr/ is any indicator, half the Doom community is full of self-absorbed elitist turds that stopped growing as human beings in 1994.

>> No.1159654 [DELETED] 

Where are the fucking mods?

>> No.1159656 [DELETED] 
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1159656

ALRIGHT

WHICH ONE OF YOU FAGGOTS LET /v/ IN

>> No.1159657 [DELETED] 

>>1159617
No, it's that group of jellyfish who go around and try to drum up resentment towards that BD creator to get him out of the community.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USarLsjO24c

lol

>> No.1159658 [DELETED] 

>>1159651
#rekt

>> No.1159659 [DELETED] 

>>1159642
show me something that actually pushes the engine to its limits

show me something that other mods don't do (blood doesn't count, gore mods have been done fucking forever)

show me something that makes the gameplay compelling, and offers something other mods don't

because I can't see anything that makes it stand out, besides the incessant amount of blood and gore sectors spewed everywhere

the most defining thing I can think of besides the blood in brutal doom is the fatalities, and one gimmick does not a legendary mod make

>> No.1159661 [DELETED] 

I want ZDF and /v/ to leave.

>> No.1159662 [DELETED] 

>>1159656
Use the report button. It was made for a reason.

>> No.1159663 [DELETED] 

>>1159656
Sgt Mark Defence Force

>> No.1159667 [DELETED] 
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1159667

videogames

are not

that big

of a fucking deal

holy shit

>> No.1159668 [DELETED] 

>>1159576
>According to who? You? Him?

not an argument

Some people are superior to others. The same goes for opinions.

stupid liberal gore loving nutcase

>> No.1159671 [DELETED] 

>>1159603
>You...you don't ever commit murder in DOOM

Commander Keen would like a word with you. :(

>> No.1159672

>>1159650
i really can't take it seriously.

oh, and why was the guy banned anyway?

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1159674

>>1159650
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
THIS GUY WAS SERIOUS

>> No.1159680

>>1159650
>>1159674
It's like...

Why Doom?

Why would you specifically choose the Doom engine for something like this?

>> No.1159689

>>1159680
to prove the doom engine is still powerful and can be used for anything?

>> No.1159693

>>1159689
This is lowest common denominator though. "Guys, I made it display images and have multiple dialogue selections!"
Uh, so did Strife?

>> No.1159694 [DELETED] 

>>1159681
>subjective
>wahhhh i'm stupid and cant be objective because of my low iq wahh nothing can be objective then!
typical liberal postmodernist retard
go back to your oprah winfrey show or whatever nigger shit it is

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1159696

Bless you.

>> No.1159697 [DELETED] 

>Control+F "[Deleted]"

>190 results

Holy fuck.

>> No.1159703 [DELETED] 

Dayum, mods = gods

>> No.1159707
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1159707

Anyone seen any good doom cosplays ever?

This is probably the best one I've ever seen, though there's another I'll post in a sec that had a better helmet.

>> No.1159708
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1159708

Anyone know any good place to download individual Doom items, monsters, weapons, etc. besides Realm667?

>> No.1159709
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1159709

>>1159707

>> No.1159713

>>1159709
prettydamngood/10

>> No.1159715

>>1159708

I troll the zdoom threads for some or search "zdoom [thing I want] sprite" to find them

>> No.1159716

>>1159708
ZDoom's forums have a bunch of resources on them that you can make into functional shit with some DECORATE.

>> No.1159718

>>1159709
>That beer gut.

>> No.1159719

>>1159707
"Hey, we forgot to buy a toy chaingun!"
"That's okay, I still have some of the Styrofoam left over from when we made the helmet!"

>> No.1159725

should I dump my doom cosplay folder?

can't be worse than the previous thread topic

>> No.1159727

>>1159708
what are you making?

>> No.1159728

>>1159725
Sure, why not?

>> No.1159729

>>1159725
do-it.wad

>> No.1159730

>>1159725
Sure, I haven't really seen any doom cosplay, so it would be interesting.

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1159731

>>1159728
>>1159729

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1159735

>>1159731

>> No.1159737

>>1159727
Not anything at the moment. I was just curious.

>> No.1159738
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1159738

>>1159735

>> No.1159739
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1159739

>>1159738

>> No.1159740

>>1159738
This motherfucker knows what's up.

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1159742

>>1159739

from /fit/, not really cosplay

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1159743

>>1159742

>> No.1159748
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1159748

>>1159743

there's no particular order to these, some might be repeats of the same person in different poses

>> No.1159753
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1159753

>>1159748

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1159756

>>1159753

>> No.1159757

How much did John Romero actually contribute to the creation of Doom? Is he really deserving of the legendary status afforded him (at the risk of being called a troll, considering Daikatana, I have doubts) or is this a case of the hard work of others being attributed to a noteworthy member of the team?

>> No.1159758

>>1159757
All the levels in episode 1, I think.

>> No.1159760

>>1159757
He...

You know...

He was the guy with the hair.

>> No.1159762

>>1159757
Romero quite literally made Doom what it is now instead of a realistic tromp through realistic levels.

Without him Doom would have been the first Call of Duty.

>> No.1159763

>>1159757
>other members of the team
It wasn't more than 8 guys.

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>>1159757

All of Knee Deep in the Dead was his levels, which are widely considered the best out of the official releases.

It isn't so much that he doesn't have good ideas or do good work, more that he needs someone working above him to rein him in (like a lot of other artists that work in collaborative mediums.)

>> No.1159768

None of these cosplayers are wearing any brass knuckles. I call bullshit.

>> No.1159773
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1159773

>>1159765

>> No.1159779
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>> No.1159781
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1159781

>>1159773

>> No.1159786
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1159786

>Type "Hell Sky" into Google images
>Get a result from the ZDoom forum

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1159792

I think we're autosaging, anyone want to make the new thread?

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1159795

>>1159781

>> No.1159803

>>1159786
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-editing/65751-sinister-looking-kinda-dark-or-dark-hell-sky-wanted/

>> No.1159809

>>1159792
Wait for page 5/6.

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1159819

>>1159803
Well, those look better than my shitty dumbshit thing I did.
Thanks a lot!

>> No.1159828

>>1159758
>>1159762
>>1159765
At the risk of unduly diminishing his importance (this isn't my intention) he was noteworthy primarily as a map designer?

>>1159763
That's still a team and a group of people to credit for the achievements of (not that I'm accusing Romero of such).

>> No.1159829

guise

guise

what are the coolest looking fan-made monsters?

hard mode: no edits of existing monsters

>> No.1159839

>>1159829
you really got me there.

>> No.1159843

>>1159829
shrek

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1159846

>>1159829
Incubus

>> No.1159848

>>1159846
nightmare mode: nothing that looks like a mutilated ballsack

>> No.1159859

>>1159829
Pyro Succubus.

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1159913

I like how we're all just waiting for someone else to post.

>> No.1159919
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1159919

>>1159913

>> No.1159921
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1159950

babby's first blender model. Trying not to obsess over tiny details since shit's going to get voxelized anyways

>> No.1159956

>>1159919
WHO DA FUCK ARE YOU?
I WAS PLAYING DOOM SINCE RELEASE DATE
YOUR NOTHING

>> No.1159978

>>1159846
I don't even know what the fuck I'm supposed to be seeing there.

>> No.1159986

>>1159978
artist's rendition of ur mum

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1160001

>>1159792
>Welcome to you're DOOM
>you're

>> No.1160015

>>1159956
I'M AN NYU DOOM SCHOOL GRADUATE, SUCKA!

>> No.1160038

>>1159170
>>the BALANCE of the game may leave something to be desired.

This is because nobody ever made a Doom map designed around Brutal Doom.

>> No.1160042

>>1160038
What would a map designed around Brutal Doom be like?

>> No.1160163

>>1160042
Berserk starts for each player.
Goodness, the gore.

>> No.1160204
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1160204

Does /vr/ have a cure for not getting shit done? I have like 20+ wads in my backlog, what do? ;_;

>> No.1160221

>>1159828
i thought he wrote quite a lot of the gameplay code, monster action functions and suchlike

>> No.1160224

>>1160042
there are no end of hilariously witty answers to this question.

>> No.1160230

>>1159828
He was programmer, level designer, game designer on it. He made the tools to work with carmack's engine.
He experimented with that engine and pushed carmack to get more of it.

I think he has a great sense of pacing and that shows in doom.

>> No.1160268

>>1160042
Lots of captured marines and RIP AND TEAR!!

>> No.1160276 [DELETED] 

>>1160204
DKG pls go

>> No.1160454 [DELETED] 

>>1160276

DKG is the dude who asks about projects to make you dingus, not playing them.

>> No.1160538

Looking for some good space WAD,s to play. I'm talking about WAD,s that take place on a space ship or a space station etc etc, That sort of thing.

>> No.1160543

>>1160538
pleiades http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=10625
mir http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=8494
(both by the same guy)

>> No.1160547
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1160547

>>1160538
Daedalus

>> No.1160549

>>1160538
star wars TC?

>> No.1160557

>>1160538
/vr/ space hulk

>> No.1160563

We page six now

>> No.1160565

New thread: >>1160561

>> No.1160578

New thread: >>1160576

>> No.1160649

I'll try (because I'm on a mobile phone) to make the new thread

>> No.1160651

>>1160649

>>1160576

You're late.

>> No.1160656

Nevermind that, I can't read for shit

>> No.1161023

When I play DoomRPG with Brutal Doom I only get XP for colored enemies. How do I fix that?

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