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JRPG storyline cliches. I'll start.

>being locked in prison

>> No.1154646

>game starts with you waking up in your parent's house

>> No.1154647

>>1154639
>moving one of the blocks in the wall will get you out of it

>> No.1154653

>>1154646
>Wake up! You're late!

>> No.1154652
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>turn based battle while a countdown is ongoing

>> No.1154657

>the ENTIRE FUCKING UNIVERSE is at stake

>> No.1154660
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>>1154652
i now remember being 11 and panicking at the countdown early in ff vii.

>> No.1154664
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>The power of friendship

>> No.1154670

Let's split in to two teams!

>One of those teams inevitably has to be made up of the faggots you didn't level, so they're like 20 levels behind

>> No.1154668

>healing magic hurts undead and ghost creatures.

>> No.1154672

>>1154668
That's mostly a general old RPG cliche though.

>> No.1154673
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1154673

>Bad guy turns into some kind of lovecraftian horror at the final battle and has several different forms

>> No.1154680

>>1154673
>and you fight him in:
>a weird cosmic starfield
>some pseudo-Greek/Roman ancient building
>a dark void
>weird trippy landscape
>also the final fight music includes an omnious-sounding church organ and/or chanting

>> No.1154676

backtracking to the start to obtain skill/weapon or converse with person to advance the story

>> No.1154682

>Before the game is through, someone somewhere will have a musical number.

>> No.1154685
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1154685

>in dungeon
>loads of doors at the beginning, which are generally all unlocked except for one
>finally beat dungeon boss and clear dungeon
>walk through a door behind where you fought the boss
>takes you through the door that was locked at the very beginning

>> No.1154687

>y/n text choice results in automatic game over if you don't follow the path of the game.

>> No.1154689

>>1154682
>meaningless love song by Japanese pop idol

>> No.1154690

>your love interest is the quite, mellow, shy girl

Just once I would like to end up with the perky energetic girl ;-;

>> No.1154693

>main character has amnesia

>> No.1154696

>>1154687
>No
BUT THOU MUST

>No
BUT THOU MUST

>No
BUT THOU MUST

>Yes
I knew you'd do it! Let's go!

>> No.1154697

>>1154690
>She always takes the role of the party's healer

>> No.1154702

>hometown destroyed

I sort of liked how Secret of Mana handled making the player unable to return to their hometown; instead of destroying it, they banned you from returning

>> No.1154704

>the main character's village gets destroyed

>> No.1154707

>brash streetwise bruiser who only uses their fists

Give me a fuckwin karate dude or something.

>> No.1154708

>You find the ancient magical item that will save the world in the first 15 minutes of the game.
>But alas! It has lost its power, and you must find a way to recharge it or all is dooooooomed

>> No.1154709

>gun not as effective as sword

>> No.1154710

>defeat boss in gameplay
>immediate cutscene where you're defeated by him
that's not how it works you little shit

>> No.1154718

>>1154708
>gain legendary sword you were destined to wield
>it was forged centuries ago by godly blacksmiths channeling the 8 magics that make up the balance of our universe
>all of the sages and elders are in awe of it and tell legends of how it is the most incredible and storied weapon in known history
>find optional super-weapon that's just some sword that has better stats and has no lore surrounding it

>> No.1154719

>>1154710
>that one scripted battle where you're not supposed to win, but just lower the HP to a point where the enemy flees.

>> No.1154720

>fire
>water
>wind
>earth
>light
>dark

>> No.1154721

>>1154718
>find Excalibur
>there's nothing special about it

>> No.1154723

>>1154720
>aether
>or some random type that doesn't make sense

>> No.1154726

>>1154721
>replace trademark weapon with a different and more powerful one
>character still wields trademark weapon in cutscenes and everyone else gushes about it without even mentioning currently equipped weapon

>> No.1154724
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>forest
>sewer dungeon
>fire dungeon
>ice dungeon
>futuristic technological dungeon

>> No.1154730

>>1154726
isn't that an inherent limitation of pre-rendered cutscenes and sprites?

>> No.1154736

>>1154723
Void, dude, that's the last japanese element.

>> No.1154737

>>1154730
It's understandable with pre-rendered, but then there's text and in-engine cutscenes that talk about how Ultralegendsword is the best shit in the universe as you're holding something more powerful.

Not an RPG, but Ocarina of Time was bad about this after you got the Biggoron's Sword. Was slightly justified as you needed the Master Sword for a couple of important things.

>> No.1154739

>Fight boss with massive hp & dmg
>Joins party afterwards
>Has 10% of former hp & shit dmg

>> No.1154742

>small village of magic users

>> No.1154745

>>1154737
Also, Link would be holding the Master Sword in cutscenes as you have the Biggoron's Sword equipped.

>> No.1154746

>NPC sprites are always walking in place

>> No.1154753
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>hidden creature exponentially more powerful than the hidden boss

>> No.1154751

>>1154746
>their text never updates, leading them to talk about handled threats as if they're still out there

>> No.1154754

>>1154690
What is Chrono Trigger

>> No.1154757

>main characters spend loads of time playing ridiculously engrossing minigame

Bonus points if it's at an arcade that inexplicably has a super-powerful item in stock for them if they win.

>> No.1154758

>>1154753
Whoops, meant last boss

I'm tired

>> No.1154761

>>1154690
>never use her in battle because there are more competent characters

>> No.1154762

>>1154737
But the Biggoron's sword was crap. I mean yeah it was powerful, but it just doesn't have the feel that the Master Sword does.

Master Sword Master Race

>> No.1154768

>RPG
>Have to level up to at least 70 to be a match for the final boss
>You have pretty much all of your ultimate world-shattering spells and final weapons at this point
>You're slaying megabeasts and godly entities that threaten the very fate of the world
>RPG 2: The Sequel
>Characters are back to level 1 and getting their shit pushed in by random thugs and wild animals

>> No.1154767

>>1154702
And that sad music that plays...

Okay, that's something that bothers me in games in general.

>Something sad happens
>Sad music plays

Movies do this a lot too. It always feels like the director is just grabbing you by the balls and ordering you to feel a certain emotion.

>> No.1154778

>be superhuman with attacks so powerful that they make cruise missiles look like foam Nerf darts
>can't bust down flimsy wooden locked door

>> No.1154779

>>1154767
Certainly it would be better if a different kind of music played. I mean, when I see something sad I want some happy music, or something to get me dancing in my seat.

>> No.1154785

>>1154757
>Don't try to stop me, motherfucker, I've come too long a way to give up now. I've put humongous amounts of money into this thing. This is going to be it. The moment I've been waiting for. I can feel it in my marrow. I WILL HAVE THAT FUCKING PORYGON!!

>> No.1154787
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>end of game point-of-no-return area is the shittiest, most boring area in the whole game

>> No.1154797

Boss or unescapable random encounter that can only be defeated with ranged attacks.

Everyone in your party has melee weapons equipped.

>> No.1154802

>>1154718
FF4 was especially bad about this.
>obtain the magical macguffin sword halfway through the game
>sword is obsolete within 20 minutes

>> No.1154806

>>1154768
it's because they spent all that time sitting around doing nothing...their muscles atrophied, they forgot how to cast powerful spells, and they sold all their equipment to pay rent.

>> No.1154809

>money is named gil, gel, or something else sounding close to "gold"
>tragic fate of the last of the maaagical race that left this world, usually a girl

>> No.1154817

>>1154809
Where the fuck did the term "zenny" even come from? I know Capcom is fond of it, but I've seen it so much times in so many non-Capcom games (and even manga and anime) that I figured it was a pun on something.

>> No.1154824

>main character is girly 140-pound bishounen with a weak chin and built like a 14-year-old
>is as strong and tough (if not more so) as the burly "Big McLargeHuge" badass on their team

>> No.1154827

>>1154817
It comes from Dragon Ball, I believe. Several other games also use this.

>> No.1154830

>>1154827

Oh yeah. I forgot about that, which is shameful because I was just watching a clip Dragonball where one of the characters explicitly says "Zenny"

>> No.1154838

>>1154824
>Military full of fit men dressed in practical equipment with conservative haircuts
>The most powerful soldiers are skinny characters who violate uniform standards with weird trendy outfits and outrageous colorful hairstyles

>> No.1154848

>>1154660

That shit is a fucking joke. If you even have less than 7 minutes left over by the time you escape there is something wrong.

>> No.1154879
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>>1154824
>>1154838

"Why helllloooo! I'm one of [big bad guy]'s most powwwwerful generals~! Prepare to die!"

>> No.1154884

>Everyone starts at level 1, albeit a 14yo regular girl or a 50yo martial arts master.

>> No.1154898
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>>1154848
This is why I like One Piece. The big badasses in the marines still have some semblance of uniformity.

>> No.1154903

>>1154817
>>1154827
"zeni" is a kun reading for coin. I'm not sure if it's actually a common term for coin though.
"zeni bukuro" = "coin purse"

>> No.1154905

>protagonist has amnesia
>memory returns when he is reunited with one of his dead parents
>female he obviously wanted to bang was his sister

>> No.1154920
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>sequel has little-to-no connection to previous stories, with only thematic details (like character designs, item/spell names, music, etc.) shared between them with no reappearance of past locations or characters (beyond species/types of characters)

Final Fantasy obviously, but Mother 1 and 2 do this (with the exception of Giygas' reappearance) and it's baffling.

>> No.1154928

>>1154920
FF7 and 10 share the same universe. That's what According to Kazushige Nojima anyways, and he's been one of the big writers for almost every main FF game since 7.

>> No.1154932

Uh, you do realize that these tropes are not limited to JRPGs and have been common in storytelling for quite some time.

>> No.1154938

>>1154920
I absolutely adore this.

>> No.1154942

You will go to the big city early in the game. You will end up getting your wallet or important item stolen. In the time it took you to get it back, the reason for being in same city becomes available.

>protag: the redeemer
>best friend: conflicted betrayee
>girl: incarnated evil in the form of damsel in distress
>random badass who joins: gets story arc resolved 2 hours after he joins and is never mentioned again

>> No.1154947
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1154947

>final boss is a multi-headed dragon

>> No.1154959

>>1154947
>Old JRPG has the final boss be a dragon with 7 heads and 13 horns.
>Every other JRPG just copies the idea without understanding why.

>> No.1154976

>>1154668
i have never ever used this in my life... does it work in D&D games like baldur's gate?

>> No.1154986

>>1154959
Nowadays it's "Big guy with wings in some dimension consisting of multicolored swirls and other effects you'd see in music player visualizations."

>> No.1155000

Zelda Link to the Past on the SNES. A western game series often does it too called Elder Scrolls.

>> No.1155006

>>1154670
Fucking FFIX making me partner up with only Quina for a boss fight

>> No.1155013

>>1154639
>JRPG storyline cliches.
>Implying being locked in prison is not a cliche in all RPGs regardless of origin country.

>> No.1155048

>>1154976
In the FFs it does, at least.

>> No.1155081

>>1154824

>Huge burly man joins your team
>He comes from a planet with heavier gravity
>Uses fist based weapons
>Storywise its implied there's nothing he can't destroy with his fists
>Scrawny spaghetti arms kid with 0 combat experience is still stronger than him

>> No.1155103

>>1154639
TES gets played

>> No.1155127

>>1154693
just once i want to see a JRPG where the main character has amnesia but it never becomes relevant to the storyline

>> No.1155238
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>Luminescent minerals are always magical.
>Storyline forces exploration of 9/10ths of the world map even if it doesn't make any sense.
>First a ground vehicle, then water, then air.
>Male childhood friends die or become the villain. Female childhood friends are love interests.

>> No.1155248
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>gold weapons do more damage than iron weapons

Do japs not know how metal works?

>> No.1155262

>All the female protagonists and even some antagonists all over your dick

>> No.1155552
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>>1154652
>game starts a countdown
>continues to countdown even during loading screens and while you're in menus

>> No.1155560

>>1154817
zeni means money in Jap

>> No.1155628

>>1154710
At least with those you have to win to win the battle. IT could be worse
>fight really difficult boss. Use lots of special and/or expensive items only to loose the battle anyway because the plot demands it.

>> No.1155645

>>1154932

go home, buzzkill

>> No.1155662
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>Really powerful guy who is in your party for five minutes.
>Dies or becomes main villain

>> No.1155675

>>1155081
Star Ocean 3?

>> No.1155680

>>1155628
>loose
This epidemic is still a thing?

>>1155662
Has there ever been a case where someone badass joins the party and STAYS a badass?

>> No.1155682

>>1155680
>Has there ever been a case where someone badass joins the party and STAYS a badass?
In most SRPGs they keep their stats.

>> No.1155687

>>1155248
I love in Final Fantasy III, you find the Gold Sword about halfway through the game, in the Gold Palace after fighting Goldor, and it always does 1 damage

>> No.1155691

>>1155680
>Has there ever been a case where someone badass joins the party and STAYS a badass?
Sengoku Rance is really good about this. Their troop count suffers but they retain their levels and abilities.

>> No.1155690

>>1155680
Auron from FFX and the optional characters from Final Fantasy Tactics (Thunder God Cid being the most obvious) come to mind

>> No.1155694

>>1155680
In FFT, T.G. Cid is pretty much the strongest character and he stays this way. Joins you pretty late in the game, though.

>> No.1155707

>>1155690
>>1155694
I meant people who were enemies prior.

>> No.1155724
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>>1154719

>use up all your healing items you've been saving on a battle that you are scripted to lose

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>>1155682
In Beyond the Beyond there was that guy Samson, but then he gets cursed after the first battle you use him in and get demoted back to level 1. Lolz

>> No.1155798

>>1155724
...or the battle results in all your healing items being taken away as a "plot point"

>> No.1155807

>>1155796
What a stupid fucking name for a game.

>> No.1155819
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>>1155807
There's been better games with stupider titles

>> No.1155820

>everyone in the area knows you're going off to fight the final boss and if you fail the world is fucked
>still charge you 5,000 gil for a potion

>> No.1155830

>>1155796
Well with that name it's kind of appropriate.

>> No.1155835

>getting banished from your village because you found an ancient sword or broke a magic seal.

>> No.1155843

>>1155819
Well, live a live has some sort of meaning.
liveAevil

>> No.1155865

>>1155835

What is Secret of Mana?

>> No.1155909
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>Btw I'm a princess
>WHA?! A PRINCESS!?

>> No.1155913
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>The first Inn you go to is like 5 gold
>the fifth one is over 1,000 gold

>> No.1155915
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>Find something in the dungeon that recovers your HP
>It doesn't recover your MP

>> No.1155929

>>1154687

What is Chrono Cross

>> No.1155964

>>1155915

Seperated HP and MP recovery is pretty much standard in all games who have both things.

>> No.1155973

>kill wild animal
>animal drops 20 gil

>kill evil soldier in full armor
>can't take his armor

>can carry multiple suits of armor in backpack
>can only carry 4 potions

>> No.1155982

>>1154690
Play Dragon Quest 5
Not saying anything more then that. >>1154768
I really love Digital Devil Saga. You kept everything and based on some choices in the first game some small stuff changed.
>>1154802
Well you do power up the blade where it is the strongest if I remember right. Still stupid.
>>1154920
Dragon Quest 1-3 does have some connection that's more then a few things thrown around.
>>1154976
Well it's from D&D. The idea is that positive energy hurts undead.

>carries a creature with you with no real story behind it
>creature turns into a major plot point 3/4 in the game

>> No.1155986

>>1155982
DQ5 is connected to 4 and 5 and the DS version lets you marry the shy rich girl or her bitch sister. The strongest sword in FFIV is the Ragnarok which is twice as strong as the Excalibur.

>> No.1155987

>see treasure chest
>try to open chest
>actually a mimic monster

>on quest to find bob
>see mysterious person
>"oh you're looking for bob? I dunno who/where he is, do this quest for me and maybe you'll find him/I'll tell you more"
>do tedious quest
>guy is bob all along

>monster difficulty depends on color palette

>> No.1155994

>the protagonist is willing to help any stranger with any job no matter how dangerous

>> No.1155997

TVTropes has rather lengthy lists of these for many games

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV?from=Main.FinalFantasyIV

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/The7thSaga?from=Main.The7thSaga

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SecretOfMana?from=Main.SecretOfMana

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ChronoTrigger?from=Main.ChronoTrigger

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/EarthBound

>> No.1155998

>>1155986
I thought there was a third girl in the DS version. And I could have sworn that after getting the rat tail or whatever to power up the holy sword it becomes the strongest weapon.

>> No.1156000

>>1155997
>TVTropes
NOPE
Once I click one of those links a can kiss any hope of sleep out the window

>> No.1156003

>>1156000
http://xkcd.com/609/

>there's at least one character who's a furry

>> No.1156006

>>1156000

You're already on 4chan in the wee hours of the morning. It's not like it makes a difference where you decide to neglect sleep!

>> No.1156007

>>1155997
>TVTropes
Shut the fuck up, fuck.

>> No.1156009

>>1155998
Their are three girls, the blonde childhood friend (the one you're supposed to marry), and the two rich girls.
You give the rat tail to the small folk miner at Adamant Grotto and he'll give you some adamantine, give that to Kokkol the Dwarven smith along with the Mythgraven Blade. Come back after you get the Lunar Whale and the Mythgraven Blade will have turned into the Excalibur. The Ragnarok is found within the final dungeon.

>> No.1156027
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>last dungeon is an evil castle

>> No.1157279

>The fate of the world is at stake, and you're the only one who can save it!
>To do so, you'll first have to talk to x so he'll give you y so that you may get past the guard at the gate

>You're the only one who can prevent the end of the world!
>But you're still going to have to shell out thousands of gold pieces for your shiny new armour. A good merchant rather accepts death than giving things away for free

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>>1155982
>carries a creature with you with no real story behind it
>creature turns into a major plot point 3/4 in the game
Puuu, pupu pupu!

>> No.1157552

>>1156007
that actually veli good!
oh and amnesia. gotta have amnesia either at the beginning or get it somewhere. amnesia was way cool and angsty.

>> No.1157567

>>1155707

You do realize that T.G. Cid was a Nanten knight right? Technically is he is an enemy, just as the Hokuten are enemies of the party.

>> No.1157657

>>1155820
In Lunar: Silverstar Story, one of your team mates quits the group at 1/10th of the game and opens his own store. He gives you rare, expensive items for free (in fact, you can take all what you can carry) before your party goes to the final dungeon.

>> No.1157660

>>1155987
>>monster difficulty depends on color palette
Purple recolor is a poisonous version of the same monster, while green is the undead version (who, besides of poisoning you, can also drain your HP or MP during the battle.)

>> No.1157692

You can buy a full plate armour for your fighter-like characters.

> Male character equips the heavy, full plate armour and ends up looking like a walking slab of metal with heavy boots, bulky gauntlets, a giant, horned helmet with eye slits and a long cape that waves dramatically..

> Female character equips the SAME armour and ends up wearing a metal bikini (with plenty of underboob, low leg thong) plus metal boots, metal gauntlets, a short cape and a circlet.

Both armours offer the exact defense bonus and agility minus stats.

>> No.1157772

>>1155987
>red items are better than blue items
>blue monsters are more powerful than red monsters

I never understood this. What the fuck, Zelda?

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>love interest is the pure maiden healer type

I'm always happy when this isn't the case.

>> No.1157851
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>“We must prevent the villain from obtaining the MacGuffins!”
>Travel the world, defeat the dungeons/challenges/whatever and get all of the MacGuffins.
>Bring them all back.
>Villain walks in and takes/uses them.

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>>1154690
Play Legend of Legaia. You can pick the jealous green-haired girl or the energetic pure pink-haired girl.

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>>1154710

>> No.1157875
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>inferno

>> No.1157882

>>1157875

gs was the best rpg on the gba hands down, or maybe 2

>> No.1157886

>Cut grass
>grass drops money

>> No.1157893

>>1155987
That second paragraph. Fucking paper Mario.

>> No.1157971

>>1157886
>all enemies, even primitive, barely sapient blobs, carry money with them

It's weird, since it could be effortlessly avoided by changing the pricing and giving the PC income via stealing money from villain chests every once in a while.

>> No.1157990

>never giving up
>believing is something
>the power of teamwork
oh? what? that's not just jrpgs? that's every single thing ever aimed at kids? interesting.

>> No.1158043
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>>1157990
> Never give up
> Trust your instincts

>> No.1158049
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>>1155982

>> No.1158157

>>1157971

>enemies drop nothing but their own body parts
>mc decides to pick up intestines and toenails
>can't pick them off other enemies

>> No.1158182

>>1154639
>2 fps walking animation when npc just stand still.

>> No.1158194

>>1154920
Eh. FF is explicitly a numbered series, not a series of sequels. The games that ARE sequels, are explicitly sequels (X, X-2; TA, TA2; IV, IVTAY).

>> No.1158205

>>1155998
Correct.

>>1156009
The second Ludman/Briscolleti daughter, Debora, was only added as an option in the DS version. In the SuFami version you only have two options, Bianca or Nera/Flora Ludman.

>> No.1158207

>>1157353
God damn you anon, now i must redownload the MKR SuFami RPG.

>> No.1158270

>>1154787
>Quest 64
>end of game point-of-no-return area is the only good area in the whole game

>> No.1158278

>>1157851
This is only acceptable if he dude getting you to collect them turns out to be the villain.

>> No.1158281
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>need to collect troll blood
>go into dungeon
>kill a troll
>nothing
>kill twenty more trolls
>they drop some gold, but still no blood
>one hundred trolls and three hours later
>make it into the deepest part of the dungeon
>find a flask of troll blood

>> No.1158387

>>1155680
Magus from Chrono Trigger

>> No.1158395
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>>1157776
>Love interest subplot goes fucking nowhere

>> No.1158425

>>1158395
That's every Tales game.

>> No.1158467

>your first task is something incredibly mundane like picking up some plants, chase off vermin or go talk to an elder 20 steps away from your home

>> No.1158479
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1158479

>greet a King to start the journey
>King says you are the last hope
>hands you 100G

>> No.1158626

>>1158479

Thou must cut down the migtiest foe of he kingdom
Wiiiiiiith
A herring!

>> No.1158635

>ice is weak to fire
>fire is weak to water and ice
>water is weak to electricity
>there are no electrical monsters
>electric magic is the best

>> No.1158638

>>1157971
>all enemies, even primitive, barely sapient blobs, carry money with them

>Kingdom is overrun with blobs
>Kingdom offers $40 reward for every blob killed
>It would be tedious to have to visit an office to cash in on all those blobs you killed, so the game cuts the bullsh** and just gives you the money directly

It makes more sense if you think of it this way.

>> No.1158656

>>1158467
>Guy blocking the path out of town says "The village elder is looking for you."
>talk to village elder, he gives you a sword
>Guy blocking the path is no longer there

Bonus points if the village elder won't give you the sword until you've already talked to the guy who tells you to talk to the elder.

>> No.1158658

>wealthy King needs you to save him and entire world from certain doom
>could easily buy you the best equipment and weapons for you since your his last and only hope
>here's 50 Gold to get you started.

>> No.1158671

>>1158638
>>Kingdom is overrun with blobs

I was skimming down the front page real fast and thought that said "Kingdom is overrun with blowjobs"

>> No.1158727

>>1158671

I would visit that kingdom.

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>>1155127
not a JRPG but if you can tolerate mechas and anime then check out The Big O, it does the amnesia thing but at a mayor scale, and i can't say anything else because i don't wanna spoil anything it's not that great or anything but i liked it at least, also Big O is the fucking tits

>> No.1158737

>>1158671
That sounds like a kingdom Princess Sevenleaf would rule.

>> No.1158761

>>1154778
Or be able to beat down some peon soldiers or villagers guarding a door. Oh no a path is blocked by some guy I should be able to beat up. I better go do some meaningless task first to earn his respect or something. Just impale him with your mighty sword and tell the wife and kids he died of consumption or someting.

>> No.1158780

>>1158728
>it does the amnesia thing but at a mayor scale, and i can't say anything else because i don't wanna spoil anything
Spoil what? They never resolved the mass amnesia. They never resolved anything.

>> No.1158795

>>1158780
that's exactly what i didn't wanted to spoil

>> No.1158798

>Someone made a weapon for you to take down the big bad guy with it
>Or it's just a powerful weapon you had to do a lot to do to get it
>It's still a weak weapon, and you have other weapons in your arsenal that are better than it.

>> No.1158802

>>1154702
>>1154704
sheiiiiit

>> No.1158804
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> Secret boss is more powerful than the final boss

>> No.1158806

>>1158795
If The Big O had a conclusion I'd be happy not to spoil it

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>Buy new equipament (new armor, new sword, etc)
>Go to menu and equip
>Expect to see character with different outfit or carrying another sword
>Back In-game
>Nothing different

>> No.1158824

>>1158806
I must be dumb or something but I liked it, at least it wasn't some "now that I know my past y can save the world" bullshit, and IMO it closes Roger's arc

>> No.1158826

>>1158728
I love the 40's gothic style this show has. It reminds me a lot of the Tim Burton Batman movies. Schwarzwald is an amazing villain who wouldn't feel at all out of place in Batman.

BIIIIIIIIIIG OOOOOO! SHOWTIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!

>> No.1158835

>>1158826
You realize that the fandom for Big O essentially describes it as 'Batman with a Giant Robot and Guns' right?

>> No.1158842

>>1158835
I wasn't aware of this, but I agree. :)

>> No.1158848

>>1158842
'You're a louse, Sevenleaf'. ;)

Back on the topic...

> Not giving you enough information on where to go
> Beef Gates

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> All rumors are always true, no matter how crazy or impossible

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>>1158826
>>1158835
yeah, actually is heavily influenced by Batman TAS and Bruce Timm's artstyle.

Schwarzwald was fucking amazing and i loved how he's still kinda relevant even after his death

anyways sorry for the mecha talk, i should be posting this on /m/

>> No.1158921

http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html has EVERYTHING.

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>>1158635

>> No.1159529
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> Normal enemies are too petty for status ailments
> Bosses are immune

>> No.1160152

>There is some ancient evil monster/machine/mech burried in the ground

>> No.1160304

>>1158853
>Theres a rumor about X thing in Y place thats incredibly valuable
>You're the only person in the world that goes to check it out instead of just parroting the rumor like a dumbass

>> No.1160307

>>1160304
Let's be fair, that's probably where all the skeletons littering Y came from

>> No.1160312

>>1159529

One of the reasons I consider Final Fantasy V to be the greatest JRPG of all time.

>> No.1160479

>>1158387
I'd say that's debatable.

>> No.1160521

>>1155997
but there likes 4 pages of autistic shit for every one good cliche listed, what is this?

>> No.1160534

>>1154767
Actually, music plays a large part in conveying emotions in a scene. Without that sad music the scene wouldn't be half as effective

>> No.1160727

>>1155248
this actually comes from Japanese mythology, with certain metals like silver and gold said to have the power to drive off evil spirits

>> No.1160742

>>1160727

Kind of extends out of Japanese mythology too with silver at least.

>> No.1160890

>>1158814

>Grind your ass to buy that expensive item on the shop
>Go to dungeon
>The same item is on a chest

>> No.1160893

>>1158479

...and doesn't even let you access to the castle treasury to find something useful.

Also about 2/3 of the castle treasures are simple items like potions or antidotes.

>> No.1160978

> 5 foot tall Rich mahogany chest with gold trim and customized locks
> Used to store a shitty ass potion

>> No.1161221 [DELETED] 

>>1160742
It isn't just confined to Japanese folklore, many cultures consider or considered silver as a holy metal (i.e. against werewolves, vampires, etc.).

>> No.1161271

>>1154680
I've heard that Akira is to blame for that cliche, I haven't read it but I guess the main badguy goes full freaky at the end.

>> No.1162089

>The ultimate evil dude is in the next room
>Merchant sets up shop just outside the door
>You bet your ass he's charging full price

>> No.1162134

>Normal encounters outside town dragons and other dangerous stuff.
>No guardsmen or anything inside town.

>> No.1162149

>the old men in towns have the most useful information

>> No.1162180

>Some guy keeps running into you and challenging you to fights.
>This is wholly unrelated to the actual plot.

>> No.1162190

>>1158671
>feels the need to share that with us

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>>1155680
Sup bitch?
This nigga was almost bro enough for me to drop Minsc.

>> No.1162440

>>1158278
Now that I think of it, the guy who told you to get all three macguffins in OoT was the great deku tree, who himself was suffering from some evil force of Ganondorf.

Is it possible then that Ganondort put the idea of collecting the three objects into the deku tree's mind, like some force of suggestion or something?

>> No.1162454

>>1157851
man why not just find one and fuckin bury it or somethin, why can't the villain have ANY of them if what he needs is ALL of them

>> No.1164012

>>1160978
Just like Grandpa's liquor cabinet.

>> No.1164029

>>1162220
But...Boo would miss you

>> No.1164052

>Regardless of social status, you are freely allowed a complete unguided tour of the king's castle.
>The king is also generally a bro, but will probably be kidnapped or put under scrutiny sometime during the plot.

>> No.1164067

Here's one that does double duty for WRPGs.

>Someone or something called "The Guardian"
>Pretty much always evil
>Even if they are on your side, you're still going to have to fight them

>> No.1164150

You know what I'd like to see in an RPG?

>Good represented by dark/devil imagery
>Evil represented by light/angel imagery

And I don't even mean that in an edgy "lol God is bad XD" way, I mean just... think about it. Evil people don't go around wearing black capes going "bwahaha I am evil." An evil overlord really WOULD be trying to masquerade himself as a force of justice. And he definitely wouldn't be wearing a black trenchcoat for 99% of the game and sprout angel wings at the very end.

>> No.1164156

>>1164150
>Good represented by dark/devil imagery

The game in the OP fits half your description.

>> No.1164196

>>1164150
>Good represented by dark/devil imagery
Every Disgaea game

>Evil represented by light/angel imagery
Disgaea 1

>> No.1164215

>>1164150
Pretty sure DQ7 takes it to its extreme with its main antagonist

who successfully masquerades as "God", not revealing who he really is until you free the real one

Not an RPG, but Bomberman 64 and its sequel did this too.

>> No.1164487

>>1158921
>http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
>EVERYTHING

>Note that the list is closed to new entries -- this is as cliché-ridden as it's going to get.

>> No.1164517

Being a random kid, then discovering you have powers and thus you are off to save the world.

>> No.1168064

.

>> No.1168070

>...

>> No.1169806

>can only run from battles against easy monsters
>death spell never works
>useless poison spell
>special items, chests or dungeons in areas near the beginning of the game

>> No.1169834

>>1169806
>>death spell never works
Phantasy Star 4 avoids this. Death spells are generally reliable.

>> No.1169852

>chase and fight against villain for the majority of the game
>learn to hate that fucker
>literally at the last second, he's revealed to be just a crony for some generic evil being that you have no feelings towards
>that evil being is the final boss

I hate this. I have no idea why games do this.

>> No.1169942

>Superhypermegapotion! Fuels your entire party and maxes out their stats for the battle!
>You never use it until the final boss except you don't because when you think about using it you save it in case there's a second/third/eighth/forty-seventh form

>> No.1169984

>>1168070
THIS

>> No.1170096

>>1164150
>Evil represented by light/angel imagery
Breath of Fire series
SMT series
Final Fantasy Legend
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VI
Diablo series

to name a few

>> No.1170098

>>1154646
>game starts with you waking up after some one saved you

>> No.1170105

Everyone is a victim of some kind, even the main villain.

>> No.1170107

>>1154689
or just OOOO EEE AAAAA OOOOO sounds made by an NES or SNES sound chip that autist fans love but everyone else just thinks is a pointless, annoying waste of time

>> No.1170108

>>1154976
>>1155982
I never liked that "positive energy" thing. I liked better the 2nd edition explanation, that healing/resurrecting is necromancy too, and thus, it shouldn't have to damage undeads.

>> No.1170110

>sassy cross dressing and/or femme male character is always a bad guy

>> No.1170136

>>1170110
>In the English translation, the characters are shocked and appalled when they realize it's a man.
>In the original Japanese version, such dialogue is mysteriously missing.

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>>1162440
"I'll never stop looking"

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>>1162440
Unravel the conspiracy! OOT theorizing like it's 1999

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>>1154690
Say what negro

>> No.1170212

>>1154742
(optional banishment for said magic)
Oh, lordy.

>> No.1170221

>>1164156
The looming "bad guy" in it is more ominous than it is...trickery?

I never really saw any good or evil in it, just morally grey areas.

>> No.1170274

>Open a chest
>Find a key to open another chest
Seriously?

>> No.1170280

>Human/elf/whatever boss with normal size during the story
>Suddenly you see them much bigger (like Power Rangers monsters which get gigantic after they have their ass kicked) during the battle against them

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>>1157692
Still not covering his whole face with the helmet. Hell, most times the male character doesn't even wears a helmet.

>> No.1170329

>>1170210
on the topic of Chrono Cross

The people you were helping turned out to be using you ! ( way to go serge )

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>>1154639
YAWN
That's been done inside out ages ago

The Grand List Of Console Role Playing Game Clichés
http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html

>> No.1170458

>>1170293
Why is that helmet floating

>> No.1172645

>>1155964
I think they mean like a free heal, such as a magic bath or something.

>> No.1172669

>>1154797
There was a battle in the elevators after the Jenova shit in ff7 that is a perfect example of this shit. Hey you got Barrett back in the party but he doesn't have his good equipment unless you remembered that small fact. Fucking bullshit.

>> No.1172689

>>1170336
and yet somehow people seem to have been enjoying talking about it for a week! thanks for the link though, i guess...?

>> No.1172704

>>1154942
That describes Planescape: Torment to an eerie degree. Still think it handled those tropes better than most games :<