/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1150783]

ITT: Strategy games.

[Anonymous No.1150797]

>Hey guys, let's port Dune 2 to a console!
>And let's call it Dune 1!

[Anonymous No.1150798]

Still the best.

[Anonymous No.1150804]

>>1150798
>not playing as Rjak
Well that's a breath of fresh air when it comes to MoM discussions.

[Anonymous No.1150816]

>>1150783
>that Happy Merchant pose
What do you think of Dune Dynasty, OP?

[Anonymous No.1150820]

I tried playing dune 2 but it's too fucking slow.

[Anonymous No.1150827]

>>1150816
>merchant

[Anonymous No.1150846]

King of Dragon Pass

fucking brilliant game, find it if you haven't played it

[Anonymous No.1150849]

>>1150804


People actually use the pre-generated wizards after their second playthrough? Making a new guy with new strengths is half the fun.

[Anonymous No.1150856]

>>1150827
>filename

>>1150846
I could never beat it. Not just because my clan would just decline over time until I learned how to play, but I got disinterested when I was in late game and everything was going well.

[Anonymous No.1150857]

There was this old game called Riders of Rohan. It was a game that was more cool than really "worked", but it reminded me a bit of Freedom in the Galaxy. You have your characters, like Aragorn and Theoden, and you use them to help recruit and lead the armies, but they don't directly fight.

At some point, you have to go blow to blow with Saruman's forces, maybe with a little help from the Ents, but you're going to have to do most of the heavy lifting with your actual human soldiers, maybe with a bit of magic to help you out.

It was cool, but kind of low on replay value; your score at the end of the game was measured in how many leaders and soldiers you could send to Gondor's aid. Getting the full 6,000 and everyone who survived in the books is HARD.

But once you did that, the game had a low replay value.

[Anonymous No.1150858]

>>1150849
Not necessarily but people usually pick Rjak as custom or standard either because of how totally sexy they think his portrait is or because how boring it is to meet him.

[Anonymous No.1150865]

>>1150804
Other people always play as Rjak? B-but death magic kind of sucks....(at least isn't as blatantly OP'd as life)

[Anonymous No.1150869]

Or the expansion Darklords Rising.

For those who don't know it, it's kinda like Homm, but plays a lot faster.

[Anonymous No.1150876]

>>1150865

Try a game with 8 black, infernal mastery, conjurer, and someone who can build cathedrals; I like halflings. (They build fast)

The ability to spit out death knights for a pittance a unit, and every city you've got able to pump out 30 mana a turn, and you will win the game. I can and have killed a 6th xp level Torin with Artifacts by piling up enough death knights and charging.


Although yeah, white is very powerful. Torin, Just Cause, Lionheart, Crusade, just about any of those spells can win on their own.

[Anonymous No.1150879]

>>1150858


I feel a bit embarassed for admitting this, but I tend to pick Tauron's portrait.

If I pick Tauron, he won't be in the game. A super red guy casting Armageddon in 1406 is bad enough the first time; and risking it again scares me. So I try to make sure he doesn't come out.

[Anonymous No.1150881]

Lords of Magic
Turn-based on world map like Heroes of Might and Magic series (but MUCH more complex), real time combat with active pause.
You choose a lord, if they die you loose. Can't recruit units until you liberate your great temple. Only one map that is an entire (not very big) planet. Great music. Pretty buggy.

[Anonymous No.1150882]

>>1150827
>happy
"I'm scheming. This is my scheming face."

[Anonymous No.1150883]

>>1150881
Forgot my picture.

[Anonymous No.1150893]

Anyone ever play this while we're on the fantasy game kick?

It was a lot like Panzer General (which is really good too), but it's more maneuver and annihilate based, more dependant on terrain and the right unit for it. The lack of entrenchment makes combat a lot faster and more lethal.

They're both well worth playing.

[Anonymous No.1150896]

Anyone ever play this while we're on the fantasy game kick?

It was a lot like Panzer General (which is really good too), but it's more maneuver and annihilate based, more dependant on terrain and the right unit for it. The lack of entrenchment makes combat a lot faster and more lethal.

They're both well worth playing.

[Anonymous No.1150927]

>>1150798


How did you manage to keep up on research with a power like a tenth of the other wizards?

[Anonymous No.1150934]

>>1150883
That's the one where the mages always say "OH I SHOULD'VE TELEPORTED!" when you give them a movement order, right?

[Anonymous No.1150946]

>>1150934
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.1150980]

>>1150927
You get two of their spells every time you banish a wizard. I'm a shameless score miner, and you get the most points by banishing a wizard, waiting for him to return, and banish him again, once city at a time. (5 fame per banishment equals big score)

But as a result, you get a lot of their spells too.

[Anonymous No.1151025]

>>1150783
Anyone here up for a game of C&C:TS?

hint: its free
http://cnc-comm.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=41

[Anonymous No.1151045]

>>1150783
>le_happy_harkonnen.jpg

[Anonymous No.1151046]

>>1151025
It's free now? Neato. I think they're working on a version of it for OpenRA now if I remember right.

[Anonymous No.1151050]

>>1150896

Was going to post this. Long and heavy campaign. Nice mood. Good music.

[Anonymous No.1151057]

>>1151046
yea but it isnt done yet

Besides, OpenRA still doesn't give me the real game experience

[Anonymous No.1151056]

>>1151050

I did find it a bit repetitive after a while.

[Anonymous No.1152483]

So, in the interest of keeping this thread alive:


Lords of the Realm 2. What's your balance between cows and grain for your agricultural needs?

I usually play with advanced farming and armies eat on, and I've found I have trouble harvesting more than 1 field per 500 or so people, so I tend to do that, leave enough fields fallow to keep it on excellent fertility, and fill the rest with cows.


I've always meant to try a full grain economy, like what the Countess does, but been too scared to try.

[Anonymous No.1152493]

>>1150816
WC1 is great

[Anonymous No.1152501]

>>1152493

I liked WC2 a lot better. Mostly because the interface was a lot easier to handle, it was just so clunky in the first game.

[Anonymous No.1152506]

I have never heard of any of these games, but they look interesting. Where could I play or d/l these games?

[Anonymous No.1152531]

>>1152501
Yeah, WC2 did a fuckload that later became the common way of doing things - simple stuff like rightclicking commands makes the game much more convenient.

[Anonymous No.1152551]

>>1152506

Just try looking for abandonware sites. Unfortunately, the market's dried up a lot, I got a lot of mine on abandonia and HOTU, and it's much harder to find large compilations you can just dl from now.

[Anonymous No.1152597]

>>1152506
For RTS you are probably best off starting with some of the late 90s games like Starcraft, Red Alert, Age of Empires/Kings or Warcraft 2 BNE and later visiting the beginning.

[Anonymous No.1152609]

>>1152597

Don't forget War Wind.

[Anonymous No.1152627]

>>1152609
This. Fighting in buildings? Inventory for all units?
Too bad the AI is pretty inactive in most missions. Kinda weird because it CAN play pretty well in some.

[Anonymous No.1152656]

>>1152627
I loved the hall of heroes, that and the combat tended towards ambush and counter-ambush, and don't know, it felt very right.


and the shama'li ending is to kill for

[Anonymous No.1152669]

>>1152609
I didn't mention TA either.
I wanted to give a short list of games that are easy to get into. I tried to offer different options for various settings like science fiction, fantasy, modern and historical.

[Anonymous No.1152673]

>>1152656
Yup the combat was very fast, kinda hard to control with that UI, but it was manageable.

The sequel kinda sucks though. They ruined a really nice unique setting because every RTS needs SPHES MARHINES.

[Anonymous No.1152778]

>>1152673

I think it had more to do with the pathfinding, actually. Whenever I ordered a group of units to march somewhere, they always wound up being strung out in a line if the distance was more than half a screen.

[Anonymous No.1152934]

>>1150783
His name was Radnor, and he was the man

[Anonymous No.1152950]

>>1152934

I always hoped it was him with the rocket launcher in the Harkonen ending. That was awesome.

[Anonymous No.1153154]

>>1151046
EA released the old Command & Conquer titles as abandonware a long while ago on their site. The mirrors have disappeared but the abandonware status has never been taken down so you can download them.

http://nyerguds.arsaneus-design.com/cnc95upd/cc95p106/ C&C1

http://iran.cnc-comm.com/ra/ RA1

http://cnc-comm.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=41 C&C2

They also work on newer systems, have things like higher resolution available and are much easier to handle than the originals.

[Anonymous No.1153164]

Hey guys don't mind me. I'm just one of the best retro RTS around.

[Anonymous No.1153195]

>>1150797
but the port was better than the original

it's still the only RTS that I can stand to play with a controller.

[Anonymous No.1153242]

>>1153195

Never played the port myself, do they let you select more than one unit at a time?

I had to chain together a whole bunch of units to "follow" one of my units whom I would lead at the enemy base to do a mass attack.

[Anonymous No.1153262]

>>1153242
You have to chain in the genesis version, still liked it more than the pc one, though.

[Anonymous No.1153741]

speaking of War Wind, how do I keep it from crashing?

[Anonymous No.1153763]

>>1153741

Not sure, I haven't played it in years, sorry.


Why do you have all those buildings finished? Waste of worker time.

[Anonymous No.1153775]

>>1150827
His face when he realizes his back is too a door.

[Anonymous No.1153780]

>>1150881
Ah yeah! Great music, and awesome scenarios. Order music and scenario especially.

[Anonymous No.1153803]

>>1153741
Eaggra was here
Tha'Roon are faggots

[Anonymous No.1153835]

>>1153803

That little chirping thing they did was always so adorable, and I thought their campaign was the best.


But I've never been able to beat it without quasi-cheating in the third mission, by attacking the Shama'li base and retooling their buildings to get around the building limits and building a kickass hall of heroes for the later missions.

[Anonymous No.1154394]

>>1153835
>playing Eaggra campaign
>second to last mission
>warlock casts fireball everyone dies
>restart
>warlock casts fireball everyone dies
>repeat
And it's one of those missions where AI actually trains new units somewhat effectively.

[Anonymous No.1154416]

>>1154394


Hide in buildings, and have lots of rangers. The warlocks can't see invisible units, and they don't have a lot of HP, a skirmish line of shooters will be able to kill the warlocks in one volley.


And the fireballs can't hurt buildings. So if they're planning on assassinating your clan leader, have him hide in your town center, with maybe a squire or a knight at the door to absorb fireballs.


IIRC, the Obblinox don't harvest resources, they just train out of a stockpile. Keep them off your back long enough, and you will win eventually. The hard part is that first five minutes while the roaming warlocks can hit your clan leader.

[Remilia Scarlet !reMILiaJAM No.1154414]

Did anyone try playing Dune IV? It's pretty great outside of bad voice acting.

http://amonit.sulfurzona.com/index.php?art=32

[Anonymous No.1154423]

>>1154414

I'd actually never even heard of it. Where can you get it?

[Remilia Scarlet !reMILiaJAM No.1154427]

>>1154423
It's freeware, available for download at the site I linked to. The game is basically a Dune II recreation with a Starcraft-like interface and a variety of missions resembling Dune 2000.

[Anonymous No.1154445]

>>1152551
I will google abandonware sites ,and see what comes up. thanks for your help.

[Anonymous No.1154468]

>>1154416
I beat it, no problem (I played all the campaigns like 5 times by now), but this mission is very hard compared to most. I replayed the game recently and lost like 5 times before I could build up any defences because I just run into random wandering units that kill me.
The last mission is a joke compared to it.

[Anonymous No.1154627]

>>1154468

The one that really always gave me a hard time was the one immediately before that, where you had to deliver the tree to the Shama'li.

I don't know why, I usually do well on those no-base purely tactical missions, but for whatever reason, the Tha'Roon always gave me a hard time there.


And yeah, the last mission is definitely anti-climatic; I think they attack you like once, and with the magic of tree regrowth, you can literally wait for an infinitely large army if you want.

[Anonymous No.1155317]

>>1152493
Yeah, as someone whose childhood pretty much revolved around WarCraft II, I have to say it's my favorite. None of the other games could match the ominous atmosphere it had to it, and the more purely medieval aesthetics were overall a lot more interesting than the lame steampunk shit that first started appearing in Tides of Darkness. It's too bad the series is dead.
>>1152501
It's not bad if you use the control key to lasso your units. It's held up a lot better than Dune II has. I just wish there was a modernized remake like the ones Dune II has.
>>1153154
I knew about Tiberian Dawn and maybe Red Alert, but I never realized Tiberian Sun was abandonware now.
>>1153164
Easily one of my favorite Genesis games, I wish I could find my copy.

[Anonymous No.1155945]

>>1155317
There's a remake of Warcraft 1 with Warcraft 3.

[Anonymous No.1156578]

>>1153741
this guy again, I replaced the exe and reverted the game version to 1.00, seems to have stopped the crashes.
Fun game, too bad it is so clunky.

>>1155317
I think I liked all three games and their quirks. Some people find things like the christmas-y look of the winter buildings in WC2 cheesy, but I like it. Those sprites look really good.

[Anonymous No.1156785]

>>1155945
I heard about it a while back, but from what I've read it was campaign-only (which disappoints me). That, and I'd like one more true to the original.
>>1156578
I actually like the winter sprites for WarCraft II, though they don't really feel "WarCraft-y" to me.

I remember back around 1999 or 2000, I couldn't wait for WarCraft III to come out, but a while after buying it I really lost interest in it. Gameplay-wise, the upkeep system and RPG elements really made it feel half-assed, and the combat felt a lot less visceral than the previous games (the units seemed to feel really underpowered).

I also hate the art style of the later games, and all the retcons and additions to the lore (pandarens my ass). Even if the WarCraft universe was always a derivative fantasy world, I appreciated the grimdark, mysterious feelings the first game evoked and the series lost as time went on. I suppose it's pretty inevitable as technology advances, since for me 3D games never seem to get your imagination working the way 2D ones do.

[Anonymous No.1156816]

>>1156785
RoC was kind of a letdown for me, but as soon as I saw the first blood elf artwork in my favorite gaming mag, I was in love with TFT.

An absolute shame what happened to the whole series. I used to respect Metzen because of this badass manual.

[Anonymous No.1157581]

>>1156816
I still have the Orcs & Humans booklet in my pile of books to page through occasionally. I wish I had Tides of Darkness', the artwork is fucking awesome.

They really don't make manuals like those anymore.

[Anonymous No.1157843]

>>1156785
>pandarens
It's pandaren. It's already plural. You wouldn't say Chineses.

Seriously though, WC3 feels like too much character based and too little war, and TFT and WoW pretty much ignored everything before WC3.

[Anonymous No.1157845]

I think I spent more time clicking the faces of Mentats in Dune 2 than actually playing Dune 2

[Anonymous No.1157903]

>>1150846
Ow. I feel sorry for the A Sharp team.

[TheLastBoss No.1158664]

I'm not into strategy games at all, but I remember a handfull that I played and truly loved.

Dune on PC/DOS (tryed it now when I'm 15 years older and I thought it SUCKED)

XCOM and UFO on PC/DOS.

Warlords (Amiga), loved it. Still do just because it does not contain very much building/maintanence elements. It's very simple and fast and pretty straight forward. The "modern" remake Warlords IV on PC was epic, played the shit out of that one.