Hey /vr/. I was wondering, What were the cuhrayzee games prior to the PS2? Pic slightly related

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Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:12:31 2013 No.1150642 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /vr/. I was wondering, What were the cuhrayzee games prior to the PS2?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:24:30 2013 No.1150664 nothing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:27:29 2013 No.1150668 inb4 battletoads

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:30:00 2013 No.1150674 like every artdink game

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:31:59 2013 No.1150676 DOOM & Quake Try nuts.wad, OP

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:32:59 2013 No.1150680 street fighter 2010 dead serious

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:38:29 2013 No.1150691 >>1150642 >cuhrayzee Stop

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 13:54:43 2013 No.1150910 You're generally going to want to look into arcade games, first-person shooters along the lines of Doom, and possibly some Genesis games.

>>	Smile Tue Oct 22 14:18:43 2013 No.1150931 take your forced catchphrases back to /v/, shithead

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:19:43 2013 No.1150932 >>1150642 All Treasure games, for one. With all due respect, Alien Soldier, Dynamite Headdy et al are "cuhrayzze"er than anything Kamiya ever made.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:21:14 2013 No.1150938 >>1150642 You'll have a hard time finding that. The idea of lone superpowered warriors didn't show up in gaming until around Devil May Cry. Closest you'll get are fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:26:13 2013 No.1150945 File: 118 KB, 410x290, Mischief_Makers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938 >The idea of lone superpowered warriors didn't show up in gaming until around Devil May Cry This is simply wrong. Let me prove you wrong with examples.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:28:13 2013 No.1150948 File: 1.98 MB, 1023x1019, esp-ra-de9241019354.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938 ...and many other SHMUPS;

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:30:13 2013 No.1150950 File: 20 KB, 443x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Would Cho Aniki count?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:31:14 2013 No.1150952 File: 61 KB, 450x338, Adventures-of-Batman-and-Robin-megadrive.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:32:14 2013 No.1150958 File: 221 KB, 1200x767, Rock-n-Roll-Racing-Megadrive-EUR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938 Pure crazy style-over-substance-yet-quality-gameplay-too right there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:34:14 2013 No.1150962 File: 42 KB, 400x280, shinobi3-megadrive.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938 Pure, unadulterated crazy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:35:13 2013 No.1150967 File: 51 KB, 320x240, shiryu2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938 Strider 2 (arcade). Pure.

>>	DeepJungle Tue Oct 22 21:39:25 2013 No.1151616 What is the difference between a beat-em-up and cuhrayzree? Sheer volume of enemies? Pace?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:45:25 2013 No.1151619 >>1151616 Tons of shit happening at once, I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:46:54 2013 No.1151623 >>1150938 are you retarded or something? do you somehow not realize that DMC was influenced by, and was an attempt to return to, older style action arcade games, the developers have even said so

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:57:54 2013 No.1151638 File: 103 KB, 1440x1080, Rising_Zan-_The_Samurai_Gunman_-_1999_-_Agetec,_Inc..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:59:24 2013 No.1151640 >>1150691 >getting angry because other people say things you wouldn't stop

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:15:55 2013 No.1151649

>>1151616
I think the contemporary CUHRAYZEE/DMC-style game has a large emphasis on combos and developing a fighting style.

Stylistically, the CUHRAYREE/DMC-style seems like a descendant of the beat-em-up. Beat-em-ups seem somewhat similar to fighting games mixed with a platformer, but without the jump or obstacle hazards that defines a platformer (Compare Mario or Ninja Gaiden to Streets of Rage, for example).

In other words, beat-em-ups tended towards combating incoming hordes of enemies, echoed in DMC's formula. I think Dynasty Warriors is a good example of a modern beat-em-up (probably because I'm a fanboy of the series): 1-2 players versus an entire army in a series of relatively open levels. DMC remains the best example of hack-n-slash/CUHRAZREE/third-person combo-oriented combat game, although I've heard that God Hand is another defining game in the genre.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:21:54 2013 No.1151654 >>1151649 have you never played an arcade game other than a fighting game or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:22:24 2013 No.1151656 >>1151649 >but without the jump or obstacle hazards that defines a platformer I remember sections of DMC where you had to jump over things and the game is almost entirely about avoiding obstacles

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:25:55 2013 No.1151658

>>1151654

I've played more fighting games, which I think bears more similarity between with the beat-em-up than a platformer.

I'm not sure, for example, if classic Ninja Gaiden is more platformer of beat-em-up. It doesn't seem like a beat-em-up, it looks like it plays more like a platformer. The goal is to kill a boss, however, but I don't know how combo-intensive the game was.

In other words, the categories of what DMC is and whether or not any retro games can fit into those categories is not that clear. I found most similarity between DMC and fighting games due to it's emphasis on stringing together attacks, I don't know if any /vr/ games are like that.

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:27:25 2013 No.1151660

>>1151656
You do avoid enemy attacks, primarily via dodging. Most of the game seems to be more about combat rather than platforming, however.

In Mario or Sonic, to defeat the final boss you have to traverse an entire level. That's the primary obstacle. In DMC, the primary obstacle seems to be traversing a level and clearing rooms of enemies before engaging in a boss fight.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:29:55 2013 No.1151663 File: 14 KB, 234x200, laughing asians.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150938 >The idea of lone superpowered warriors didn't show up in gaming until around Devil May Cry

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:31:25 2013 No.1151664 I think a lot of shmups and beat em ups would qualify. Especially those games that took the established formula and then took it one step further. I think the Alien vs Predator arcade game is a pretty good example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:37:17 2013 No.1151674 >>1151640 got to admit it's one of the stupidest terms ever though

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:37:18 2013 No.1151673 >>1151660 have you never played the first two DMC games or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:39:17 2013 No.1151676 >>1151674 I'm pretty sure he was using it half mockingly though, regardless it's stupid to get that angry over anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:46:17 2013 No.1151687 >>1150938 I'm just picking one of the many examples that will tell you that you are wrong: Strider.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:13:20 2013 No.1151710 >>1151673 If he did, he didn't play it on Hard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:20:20 2013 No.1151720 >>1150952 Yeah, most goons went down in a few hits. Then the all the bosses were obnoxious damage sponges. The game is fun with a buddy. Robin kicks butt too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:23:20 2013 No.1151724 >>1151638 >>1151638 >>1151638 >>1151638 >>1151638 >>1151638 there is still no game as crazy as rising Zan

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:38:50 2013 No.1151754 File: 37 KB, 300x220, bangaio-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Treasure games

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 01:41:46 2013 No.1151940 Why hasn't anyone mentioned Smash TV yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 02:01:32 2013 No.1151958 >>1151676 This is 4chan. People blow a gasket over sticking a colon next to a closing parentheses, or forgetting to remove "tumblr" from your image's filename.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 02:14:05 2013 No.1151972 - Ninja Gaiden - Shinobi - Strider - Treasure games in general - Some beat 'em ups with refined gameplay mechanics like Streets of Rage 2 and Golden Axe - Hagane - Omega Boost on ps1?. I've yet to play it but it looks crazy enough

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 02:15:36 2013 No.1151975 >>1151664 Yeah, if you define "cuhrayzee" as "cool combos" then Alien vs. Predator certainly qualifies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 02:53:53 2013 No.1152000 Ninja gaiden is pretty crazy and basically any Beat em up is a 2d "cuhrazy" game also,Double Dragon and Battletoads are crazy enough

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:06:15 2013 No.1153938
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>>1150642
[Magical Pop'n]
yes, i'm serious. a lot of moves for just one character, branching paths, fast action, deflect-able attacks, weapon switch on the fly.

the only nitpick i could think of are the enemies and bosses.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:15:45 2013 No.1153943
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Rise of the Triad- the first game to have God mode (hurl fireballs!), Dog mode (be a DOG) and shrooms mode (trip out). Pick two, then arm yourself with drunken missiles, then turn on the "Fish barrel polka" for your level music via the jukebox. Bounce on trampolines while making things go BOOM.

>DOS FTW

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 08:06:45 2013 No.1154146 I think you want Ys games, frantic gameplay and all.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 08:24:34 2013 No.1154160

>>1153938
As weird as it may sound Magical Pop'n might be my favorite game. It just mixes all the elements of other vidya I like such as the sidescrolling sword combat from Zelda 2/Actraiser, the exploration and branching paths of a lesser Metroid, the cool stages and bosses of megaman, the cute little girl I wish to be. It's really awesome. Wish there were more games like it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 08:29:05 2013 No.1154167 File: 113 KB, 640x917, 951791_109606_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] teh crayziest too bad its copy safe

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 09:23:35 2013 No.1154207 Dynamite Heady Guardian Heroes Smash TV.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 09:55:24 2013 No.1154232 >>1151616 cuhrayzee games are based around spectacle more than anything. The rank and file mooks don't offer challenge so much as a chance to flex your skills and kill things stylishly. DMC, madworld, bayonetta etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 09:57:55 2013 No.1154235 >>1151616 /v/ culture

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 10:00:24 2013 No.1154241 >>1151616 http://pastebin.com/4nEBBKPF FAQ About what people often refer to when they talk about cuhrayzee games, taken from the general.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 10:08:24 2013 No.1154254 Bangai-O Mischief Makers Gunstar Heroes Hell, just about most of Treasure's stuff

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 10:22:42 2013 No.1154272

The Runabout series is pretty ridiculous. The PSX one that the US is known as Felony 11-79

Now, the game may not fit your exact definition of crazy, but you're required to race against the clock to complete objectives in your car and you are encouraged to crash into as much shit as possible while finishing each level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 10:45:13 2013 No.1154304 >>1150938 >teenager identified

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 10:55:13 2013 No.1154315

there is no such thing as curhazyee.

it was a marketing stunt capcom did with its devil may cry games by calling it a 'stylish action game' which the fanboys endlessly repeated.

if you are talking about the beat em up genre (the thing that devil may cry is) than you could probably just go to google or hardcore gaming 101 and find a list.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 11:02:14 2013 No.1154317

>>1151616
nothing

you can do impressive in combos in beat em ups and they are much better paced than any dmc game (you wont be running through empty corridors to fetch puzzle items or doing crappy platforming)

3d beat em ups and 2d beat em ups differ mostly in that the 3d ones have a dodge butten that greatly dumbs down the combat. in 2d beat em ups enemy ai manipulation, crowd control managment, proper combo use, and aggressive player isn't something you do just to make the ranking give you an S. Its required in order to actually get past the 3rd stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaVU9tqXxw0

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 11:07:13 2013 No.1154323

>>1151649
you need to play more games in the genre before you say ridicolous nonsense

dynasty warriors and and dmc are the exact same genre

ALL beat em ups are combo orinated, combos are how you fucking kill things.

DMC didn't start the 3d beat em up genre, games like that existed on the ps1.

Ninja gaiden is not a beat em up, its a platformer.

Please stop taking /v/'s word as law

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 11:51:15 2013 No.1154356 come on guys, no contra? contra hard corps

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 12:05:22 2013 No.1154380 >>1154356 Contra has always struck me as a shooter in the same way as Metal Slug. Most of the enemies are squishy and you are just dodging bullet spreads while dealing with Gravity at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 18:09:58 2013 No.1155040 File: 62 KB, 500x500, Silent_Bomber.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think Silent Bomber was really close to what you're describing, OP. Give it a shot.

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 16:10:00 2013 No.1156683

>>1150642

I remember an IGN review of Devil May Cry that I printed off in the public library to read before buying. It said DMC harkened back to "old school" action games.

The genre you're thinking of OP are 2D action games. The stuff with the ninjas. Fast paced action.

Ninja Gaiden
Hagane

Stuff like that. DMC tried to translate those 2D weapon based action games into 3D. It also took a lot of resident evil.

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 16:19:00 2013 No.1156706

>>1151616
>What is the difference between a beat-em-up and
>cuhrayzree?
Beat'em up is a video game genre. "Cuhrayzee" is a /vg/ meme that originates from threads about Hideki Kamiya games, later Clover/Platinum games, later all similarly styled action games. The word comes from a DMC3 opening cutscene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HHkJH_0leU).).

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 16:21:30 2013 No.1156710 >>1156683 >It said DMC harkened back to "old school" action games. Which is correct. DMC is to the original Castlevania what Ocarina is to ALttP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:36:33 2013 No.1156883 >>1154167 >PS2 >/vr/ Sorry, try again.

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:43:33 2013 No.1156904
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>>1154315
>Survival Horror is a marketing myth!
Just because someone popularized it doesn't mean that it hasn't been pursued as an ideal game design goal, regardless if it came before or after.

Also, we need some Midway shmups and Metal Slug in here, stat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 18:31:34 2013 No.1156989 >>1155040 >>1155040 >>1155040 Seconding this! >"Dante" ship >White hair hero and villain >Respectively, combed down and combed up CAN'T YOU SEEEE? also, dem bombing action gameplay

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 22:00:55 2013 No.1159303 File: 65 KB, 618x806, Jill-Valentine-Resident-Evil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1150948 What dis?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 22:06:55 2013 No.1159308 >>1156883 He said PRIOR to the PS2 you fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 22:07:55 2013 No.1159312 File: 220 KB, 600x594, Silhouette Mirage [U] [SLUS-00728]-front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] YO!

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 22:15:26 2013 No.1159326 File: 66 KB, 640x480, wild_guns.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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