/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.11502132]

Describe Phantasy Star Online gameplay

[Anonymous No.11502140]

>>11502132
shit. a legendary franchise died for this slop. I will never forgive sega

[Anonymous No.11502146]

>>11502132
A very rigid Diablo clone with Outlaw Star aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.11502176]

It's a beat em up with upgrade elements you play with your bros.

It's a lot of fun that's all there is to it. Music is also kino.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asgELTWi2R0&list=PL46529D5C64979C93&index=6

[Anonymous No.11502185]

it's grindy and slow paced and simple compared to any MMO you'd see nowadays, but it has a great atmosphere and it's simple gearbased progression makes it really relaxing and enjoyable. unfortunately, all the pservers I've played on players will mostly spam one boss rush mission (since it has optimal xp rates) and not play other stuff.

[Anonymous No.11502242]

>>11502185
Spamming TTF isn't even optimal experience and only boring people do that. It's a very small percentage of the total number of quests run. At least on Ephinea.

[Anonymous No.11502252]

Schwing, schwing, SCHWING! Schwing, schwing, SCHWING! Schwing, schwing, SCHWING! Schwing, schwing, SCHWING! Schwing, schwing, SCHWING! Schwing, schwing, SCHWING! Schwing, schwing, SCHWING!

[Anonymous No.11502260]

>>11502132
A friend described it as "Resident Evil with aliens".

[Anonymous No.11502268]

>>11502260
As a long time player of pso I have no idea what that means. It seems wildly inaccurate.

[Anonymous No.11502274]

>>11502132
Sure, it's simple... you.. zzz......

[Anonymous No.11502409]

>>11502268
I think that anon's friend is saying that the game plays like RE because of the slow movement and dungeon navigating being going into different rooms like old RE games.

[Anonymous No.11502417]

>>11502132
Sci-fi Monster Hunter before Monster Hunter

[Anonymous No.11502603]

>>11502132
Simplistic third person 3D beat 'em up with an amazing aesthetic

[Anonymous No.11502617]

Sci-fi Diablo clone where all the enemies are annoying to fight. Unless you're ranged, ofc.

[Anonymous No.11502621]

>>11502140
>a legendary franchise died for this slop. I will never forgive sega
Did you mean to post this in a Sonic thread?

[Anonymous No.11502630]

>>11502140
>died
I get what you mean but this isn't the right word. When you say Phantasy Star most people think of PSO not I-IV. PS is actually still relevant because of PSO

[Anonymous No.11502637]

>>11502132
Kino only people over the age over 30 can enjoy

[Anonymous No.11502638]

>>11502132
Kino only people over 30 can enjoy

[Anonymous No.11502652]

>>11502146
I missed wherever the Daoshit was in PSO.

[Anonymous No.11502656]

>>11502252
It actually only goes schwing, schwing if you're not a casual.

[Anonymous No.11502668]

>>11502252
>>11502252
This.

[Anonymous No.11502715]

I don't need words, just vibes.

[Anonymous No.11502806]

>>11502132
Pure soul, Boring as fuck now

[Anonymous No.11502825]

>>11502132
shoot/hit enemy
receive loot
repeat

it was glorious

[Anonymous No.11502907]

>>11502806
How would you recapture the soul while making the gameplay more suited to current year?

[Anonymous No.11502909]

>>11502806
>>11502907
>unironically wanting to change the gameplay to appeal to zoomers
I'm glad you find the game boring. It means I'll never meet you on Ephinea

[Anonymous No.11502956]

>>11502909
Nobody said anything about zoomers. That's your brainrot.

I wouldn't say it's boring. It's a bit too jank. Honestly the 3 hit combo sound drives me crazy.

[Anonymous No.11502986]

>>11502409
he's unhinged

[Anonymous No.11503002]

It's kind of like Destiny in a way. Central lobby town where you join a group to go on a mission then kill enemies that drop random loot until you get to the boss room.

[Anonymous No.11503004]

>>11503002
you just described diablo

[Anonymous No.11503012]

>>11503004
I don't think Diablo has the lobby area where you interact with more than your party, but it is very similar. Of course Diablo did this first though.

[Anonymous No.11503027]

>>11502132
i remember not liking it very much. but then i was young when i played the gamecube version on fan servers.

[Anonymous No.11503036]

>>11502132
Very simple, very linear, very addicting. On paper I feel like it's so simple and linear it shouldn't work, and yet the devs have managed to do something that just makes it work. It's genuinely impressive in how fun and addicting it is.

[Anonymous No.11503214]

>>11502907
PSU

[Anonymous No.11503574]

[Anonymous No.11503590]

>>11503214
Nice Hitler world.

[Anonymous No.11503603]

[Anonymous No.11503669]

>>11502132
honestly pretty brainless but it was fun with friends
it was definitely one of the only games doing what it was doing at that time

[Anonymous No.11503893]

>>11503603
I always found this strip amusing, since the mag belonging to the ranger on the right is also a basic bitch mag. I raise mags for profit on Ephinea, so I have probably a dozen baby mags like the one equipped by the hunter on the left in my inventory.

[Anonymous No.11504213]

>>11503214
PSU my beloved. Playing that first and then going back to Online later was a trip. It really did feel like a skeleton of the game I grew up with, but I was fascinated by it because of that.

[Anonymous No.11504265]

I was feeling nostalgic and made a character on ephinea. I haven't been able to stop playing all week. anons, why is it so good?

[Anonymous No.11504437]

>>11502132
>Describe Phantasy Star Online gameplay
Revolutionary contemporaneously but now somewhat mundane and even primitive in several aspects.

Its aesthetics in my opinion are what have actually been forgotten and remains groundbreaking and unrivalled to this day, even though it was just standard Japanese Y2K sensibilities of its day which you see reflected in other contemporaneous Dreamcast and some Playstation games.

[Anonymous No.11504440]

>>11502617
There are no annoying enemies to fight in the forest level of PSO Ep1

Cave and onwards yes the game as a whole gets significantly worse in every way, enemies included.

[Anonymous No.11504445]

>>11502806
PSO doesn't get boring until you've gotten decent gear and spells from running the Forest levels within a dozen times, or proceed after the Forest levels (especially the Factory levels).

[Anonymous No.11504447]

>>11504440
monest are annoying because they take forever

[Anonymous No.11504453]

>>11502907
I'm not sure. Soulsborne is shit and anything that isn't cuhrayzee is inherently primitive and regressive; but it's unsuited to the vibe of PSO. Maybe make combat more fluid like Fable or Prince Of Persia, but I don't know.

Also the game doesn't have interesting missions; it's just all hack and slash dungeon crawling. But the only good level design and enemy design exists in the first 2 levels, after which it falls off a cliff (the cave is almost okay but is samey and boring as fuck and has annoying enemies).

Also it could use more customization and more interesting magic.

[Anonymous No.11504457]

>>11504447
not if you're a Force

[Anonymous No.11504635]

full of cheaters. you couldn't find a random lobby that didn't have hacked gear all over the place. it was cool to pick up a hacked mag at the time but it was pretty rampant for anyone trying to play normally

[Anonymous No.11504672]

>>11504445
The annoying thing is that all the interesting gear is dropped in Ultimate but getting from level 40 to 80 is a horrible tedious drag.

>>11502617
>>11504440
>>11504453
Skill issue, mobs don't get cheap until episode IV and the level design in II and IV is astronomically better than I's barren rooms.

[Anonymous No.11505917]

>>11504672
it's only a drag if you're not having fun and if you're not having fun, then why are you playing?

[Anonymous No.11505986]

>>11505917
Yeah that's sadly why I dropped Ephinea at about 60.

[Anonymous No.11506036]

>>11504457
Or have a spread needle.
>>11504635
Yes, that shit was abysmal back in the day. It almost ruined the game, but I kept playing because there was still fun to be had, and a good community of players playing legit. Blue Burst and Ephinea seem to get alot of hate on /vr/ for some reason, but if there's any cheating going on there, it's subtle enough that I haven't noticed it, and for that reason alone I prefer Blue Burst and Ephinea. After dealing with all the cheating on Dreamcast and Gamecube, it was so nice to play BB and /finally/ have a version of the game with a functioning economy not overrun with dupes.
>>11505986
I know it's kind of lame, but when I started over on Ephinea, I just got high-level players to powerlevel me to 80 so.I could get started on Ultimate difficulty ASAP. I would not reccomend that to new players, but this wasn't my first rodeo.

[Anonymous No.11506053]

>>11504457
>>11506036
no i mean the literal animations of watching it hover down, goon out mothmants, fall down, die and burst into treats

[Anonymous No.11506054]

I'm so jealous of people who got to play this game when it was still going strong, on the Dreamcast or the Gamecube. It just looks so fucking cool. Like I rarely use the word 'soul' but I don't know how else to describe this. My only exposure to something vaguely PSO related was playing like an hour of Phantasy Star Portable and that's it

[Anonymous No.11506071]

>>11506054
i think mmo's in general were cooler back then. tons coming out every week all trying their own thing, because they weren't all trying to copy wow yet.
these days with cash shops and bullshit i couldn't be bothered to play an mmo if you paid me

[Anonymous No.11506351]

>>11502132
RACast is best Cast.
Big Beefy Robot > Tiny Space Wizard.

[Anonymous No.11506359]

>>11506053
Ah, I see what you mean now. Yes, those animations are slow.
>>11506054
Ephinea has more people playing now than the Gamecube version did back when I was playing it on official servers. I've been called a shill in previous threads for saying this, but PSO is IMO actually better now than it used to be, as long as your okay with playing on private servers on PC rather than on a console, and not being able to play offline.

[Anonymous No.11506557]

>>11506071
it was also before you every game had a datamined guide before it even came out. I didn't know anything about the game apart from what other people told me or what I saw myself.
mmos are stillborn now because there's no sense of discovery or mystery anymore.

[Anonymous No.11506564]

>>11502132
spam dungeon until u get to lv200...
then you can spam dungeon with fren...
dress up character in cute clothes...
maybe get a 0.00000001~% drop
or used all your goypoints to buy a scrap of ham in hyperinflated online economy

fun times

[Anonymous No.11506567]

>>11506557
you have to actively avoid spoilers these days. i liked when a game like rogue squadron could hide the naboo fighter for 6 months

[Anonymous No.11506582]

>>11506564
sorry thats pso2

you just do the first two in pso1

[Anonymous No.11506727]

>>11504453
You're basically asking for a chink action gacha MMO.

[Anonymous No.11506785]

>>11503214
https://youtu.be/-TNiFdZjJLA

[Anonymous No.11506949]

I love PSO, I played the shit oit of it on the DC but had to sell basically all of my physical videogame stuff years back. Lately I've been playing the Gamecube version of PSO on an old phone using one of those cheap clamp on Bluetooth controller kits, and it has been a shitload of fun playing it in bed or on the couch. I always thought that PSO would have been a really good game to port to the PSP or PS Vita, I think it would have worked well as a portable game.

I'm running it on an old Galaxy Note 10+ and the game runs at full speed with only occasional slowdowns, and even just bumping the resolution to 2x makes it look really good. With Gameshark codes its even better, I'm using ones for:

- Widescreen
- A shared/common item bank (so I can transfer items between my two characters)
- No automatic speed reduction next to enemies (so no need to spend half the game with your menu open just so you can run)
- Online enemy counts/difficulty while playing offline (for times when I want to have more/more difficult enemies and do some leveling)
- Ultimate Mode maps in Normal Mode (this just changes the environments to their Ultimate mode versions, it doesn't change enemies or difficulty, I use it sometimes for variety)
- Dressing room is open and free
- Make rare items show up on the map (this one is off since I'm still in normal mode)
- Much longer draw distance (this one is great since it makes enemies/objects/crates/etc always render instead of just magically appearing five feet away from your character, but I had to turn it off because it caused too much of a performance hit)

I wish there was a way to transfer my character to Blue Burst at some point so I could check out Episode 4, but I'd much rather play it wherever rather than be stuck playing it on my computer, and while I get that cheaters are shitheads I really don't like the idea of only being able to play online and having my data exist solely on someone else's server.

[Anonymous No.11506960]

>>11506949
I'm in the ruins now with a level 25 Whitill Hucast, but I'm going back and clearing out missions to build up meseta. Right now I'm like two missions away from fighting Kireek to get his scythe. I also cleared out the CCA in episode 2 a couple levels back, but figured I'd gain a few more levels before trying the boss since the enemies leading up to the boss teleporter rekt my shit at the time lol.

[Anonymous No.11506971]

>>11502132
Diablo with more fun action (more active dodging, simple timing of combos, etc.)

[Anonymous No.11507216]

As a shitter kid I only ever played ruins on normal solo. I was running through it on v. hard this time and it blew my mind to find out there's a 4th form to dark falz. also I got rekt.

[Anonymous No.11507229]

>>11506054
try xenoblade x, it gave me some pso feels

[Anonymous No.11507242]

3d phantasy star only became playable with universe, i love the aesthetic of this game and the novelty of it being the founder of eastern MMOs and that style of real time combat, but its so fucking bad, its the shitty hollywood action comedy flick of video games, fun if you have friends to get high with but an absolute slog if you're playing alone. all the people on tofuman's blueburst server are overleveled so you're not gonna be running into anyone in the early stages to alleviate that

[Anonymous No.11507271]

It really shouldn't be any fun at all. The gameplay is perhaps the most stale and repetitive shit of all time. It's excessively grindy, you really can't even go online until you grind to like level 15 by yourself or else you'll just get your shit kicked in. There's very few maps and not a whole lot of missions. And yet I keep coming back. I really don't know what it is, something about it just fucking works. Get your Dreamcast online, get some friends together and just run through it, you can do all the missions in a couple of sessions.

[Anonymous No.11507280]

>>11502132
tiny hub world, with nothing to do in it and no npcs to talk to.
stilted game play
room to room boredom with little variety
no exploration

[Anonymous No.11507310]

>>11506071
Never played a whole lot of different MMOs but I put a lot of time into Lineage 2 back in the days
>>11506359
>there are private servers for this game on PC
No joke I might actually give it a try later, thanks. That feels weird, playing an MMO that came out 25 years ago for the first time
>>11507229
Yes I've always wanted to try that game, I'm a big fan of Xenoblade 1

[Anonymous No.11507324]

>>11507310
by xeno 1 do you mean chronicles? x is similar but also a lot different in how they do the world and stuff, i'm not sure where it even stands lore-wise overall. x feels even more like an mmo but not in a bad way, it really reminded me of pso. if you decide to play it, i have a music pack some anon made that replaces a few of the bad tracks with pso ones. you spend a lot of time in the city doing crafting shit and that 'uh uh' track gets old so fast, i wouldn't be able to play without the music replacement

[Anonymous No.11507338]

>>11507324
Yeah I mean Xenoblade Chronicles in particular, never played Xenogears or Xenosaga. As for the music pack my only way to play the game is on the Switch because my PC is too shit to emulate the WiiU version therefore no mods sadly. What's been putting me off all this time since the Switch port release is the fact that this is supposedly one of those 100 hour single player RPGs, every time I want to play something like that I always think
>damn I should probably play through 3-4 classic JRPGs I still haven't played instead
For example, I've only ever finished the first Phantasy Star game and as I've already said, never even played Xenogears. But still I will certainly get around to Xenoblade X someday

[Anonymous No.11507348]

>>11507242
there are very few games that are better played alone than co-op, and the majority that are is because they have a terrible co-op system

[Anonymous No.11507349]

>>11507348
a game being improved by co-op isnt the same as a game only being enjoyable if you play co-op

[Anonymous No.11507350]

>>11507338
>supposedly one of those 100 hour single player RPGs
i have about 110 hours on my save now. i'm near the end of the game but stopped doing the main quests to do side stuff, hunt the big bosses. when the remake releases, the online stuff should work again so i think you can do quests with others online

[Anonymous No.11507398]

Phantasy Star Online and Xenoblade aren't comparable at all you mongoloids.

[Anonymous No.11507407]

>>11502132
Is xenoblade x sorta like pso?

[Anonymous No.11507469]

>>11507407
Someone apparently thinks so, but I don't think they have anything in common besides neon lights on some clothes. Universe's and Xenosaga's aesthetics are relatively close though.

[Anonymous No.11507747]

I see private servers for PSO up everywhere. Are there any for PSU?

[Anonymous No.11507763]

>>11507398
>at all
Xenosaga is more like PSO but you can't deny that Xenoblade feels and looks really similar at times

[Anonymous No.11507815]

>>11507763
>I always thought that PSO would have been a really good game to port to the PSP or PS Vita
Phantasy Star Portable was a thing, anon.

[Anonymous No.11507886]

>>11507815
i miss playing Phantasy Star Portable 2 and Phantasy Star Zero with /v/ all those years ago

[Anonymous No.11507947]

>>11507815
Its not the same.

Also I just beat Dark Falz on normal. I'm going to clean up the last few quests before starting on Hard though.

[Anonymous No.11507964]

>>11507747
Clementine

[Anonymous No.11508240]

>>11506949
Looks like a comfy solo setup you have there! Especially with all of those mods. I would have loved to have had some of those mods back in my Gamecube days. I can't help but wonder how many good rares I may have missed simply because I didn't see the red box drop.

You should consider starting a character in Blue Burst on Ephinea. No offline play is a bummer, sure, and your concerns about your character data being on someone else's server are valid, but it's a good time, and I see new/low-level players there all the time, so you likely wouldn't have to solo. Ephinea actually let's you download your character data, so if the servers went down in the future, you could theoretically start your own server and keep your characters there, or potentially transfer those characters to someone else's servers if they allow it.