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1131407 No.1131407 [Reply] [Original]

>swimming levels

Why do these exist? They are not fun, they have lame controls, they take away the best assets of the game, they are slow...they just suck.

>> No.1131423

To make you appreciate the land levels more

>> No.1131424

they are a good challenge.

>> No.1131429

I like them.

>> No.1131441

>>1131407
Because they wanted to try something different with the gameplay? Just a guess

>> No.1131457

>>1131407

Bitch please. That water level in DKC with the Octopi chasing you is tits.

>> No.1131465

marios swimming levels play very differently depending on your power up

if you are fire flower mario you stay high up on the waves so you can snipe the enemies with a fire flower the moment they spawn. It takes some skill to work with the arc but once you do the water levels become very fun

basic mario gets a free pass and can avoid 80% of the enemies just by running on the surface of the water

super mario can't really fight back and needs to make a made dash through the level hoping he can get a fire flower before he gets bitten. Sometimes you need to stop to trick gooper ai into going backwards though

its a much different experience than the land level and is pretty fun

>> No.1131478

>>1131407
this nigger never played DKC series and Jazz Jackrabbit series

>> No.1131482
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1131482

Tomb Raider '96 did great water. Just diving into the pool in Lara's manor, and dicking around, was cool.
It controlled better underwater than SM64, and Cistern was a much better designed water level than OoT's Water Temple.

>> No.1131490 [DELETED] 

>>1131478
Didn't even read what the thread is about, I just saw your post saying some faggot never played DKC, allow me to laugh at him too.

>>1131407
LOL you're such a fucking faggot, like holy shit!

>> No.1131507

Yeah, they suck. Specially in nintendo games.

Sonic 3 has the best water level, looks amazing, great music and 95% of the time you are outside the water.

>> No.1131542
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1131542

Don't mind me, just being the best water level ever.

>> No.1131556

I like most of the Mario swimming levels. Some are a birch but the majority are pretty fun. Also dkc swimming levels are awesome. You know what really sucks is swimming levels in Kirby if you don't have a good power up for it.

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1131563

Oh you were enjoying the game? Well we'll just see about that.

>> No.1131572

Don't forget TMNT.

>> No.1131586

>>1131542
I usually hate water levels, but the one in Ristar was fuckawesome. The boss fight was kind of annoying, though,

>> No.1131590

>>1131563
When doing that 99 second final run, try to find the air fill-up station that's in a hidden wall in a bottom left-hand corner of the screen around the half-way/two-thirds point. It's pretty much the only way I can pass the level.

>> No.1131597

>>1131507
95% of the time you are also holding → and A.

>> No.1131601
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1131601

I hated the swimming levels in this game.

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1131603

>>1131407
/thread

>> No.1131609

>>1131603
how many people do you think have actually played this and not just watched the AVGN

>> No.1131615

DKC is the only game series I've ever played with enjoyable water levels.

>> No.1131625

>>1131609
It's a Turtles game released when it was popular. I'm sure there is a fair number.

>> No.1131646

>>1131609

Let's see

A wildly popular children's property that got a video game on a wildly popular game system.

>> No.1131651
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1131651

>>1131603

>> No.1131659

>>1131615
I stopped playing donkey kong land 1 for years because of one underwaterlevel inw hich you are constantly chased by squids.
Fuck that shit.

>> No.1131673

>>1131407
Bad example. SMB did right by swimming levels. Just looking at that screenshot makes me want to get to that part with a Fire Flower and make calamari.

>> No.1131717
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>>1131609
I still own that piece of shit, so fuck you, you presumptuous cocksucker.

>> No.1131732

>>1131609

I forget why, but I always sent the closest to dead turtle in, got all but one bomb, then sent a fresh one in to grab the awkwardly placed bomb, and complete the stage, then start the next area, go to the kidnap point and rescue a new full health turtle.

I remember it being a good plan as a kid, but I've not gone back to this game in years.

>> No.1131742
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1131742

>>1131603
>>1131609
>>1131651
I had TMNT 1 as a kid. I played it over and over again. To this day, through that practice, I can play the Hudson with minimal damage. It isn't that hard with practice.
The Technodrome level and the level previous is a million times worse, especially since the entrance to the Technodrome is randomized.

Also, fuck this scene. As a kid, I always thought there must be a way to get that pizza.

>> No.1131745

>>1131609
This kid probably thought Raphael was the best character to use.

>> No.1131761

Croc.

>> No.1132065

>>1131407
I agree what's his face. Water levels should be like a sky level, as in you have complete control of vertical movement. I don't know why everyone decided to make water levels such a pain, they should be way more fun than the land ones.

>> No.1132095
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>>1131742
>mfw watching Maxwell Adams get through it without even giving a fuck
He didn't do it perfectly but he has the right attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZRz2TX6sQ&feature=player_detailpage&list=SPE2FB999D9E0C148F#t=554

>> No.1132096

>>1132065

i dont get it either.

frog mario in SMB3 is an example of good swimming controls

>> No.1132867 [SPOILER] 
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1132867

The only game that made water levels fun.

>> No.1132872

I like the water levels in Mario and DKC.

They're generally pretty bad in other games though.

>> No.1132875

>>1131742
>fall through hole
>jump back up
>grab pizza

Or is the screen below it too low to jump?

>> No.1132883

>>1132875
>confirmed for never having made it that far
Yeah, you cannot jump back up. And gamefaqs says it is the only unobtainable obejct in the game.

>> No.1132884

>>1131586

I dunno, he's pretty easy. Round 4's boss is when you've got to pace yourself for me.

>> No.1132887

It's a break in point. It is like what they do in TV shows when they have more than a couple plots at a time just so things don't get boring. Rather or not they successfully achieve that is up to debate.

>> No.1132941
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1132941

Terra Tubes is a tough water level, and you are a toad.

Now I've got that mario water music in my head.

>> No.1132968

>>1132941

Now me as well, fuck that's contagious.

>> No.1132972

>>1132941
>>1132968
That's the sound for my alarm clock. That song literally enters my dreams.

>> No.1132980

>>1132968
I have the arcade elevator action music stuck in my head. Maybe it will spread in the board.

>>1131601
>Swimming levels are frustrating
>A big game about swimming comes out
>Almost the entire game is frustrating as fuck

It's like a law.

>> No.1133197

>>1132972
Must be nice. Couldn't personally have that as an alarm. I'd sleep right through it.

>> No.1133717

>>1131542

Pretty Great.

I'm fine with 90% of water levels, actually.

Even DKC 1

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>>1131407
/vr/ seems pretty bitchy today.

Am I the only one?

>> No.1133908
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1133908

I feel like I never got to use Rush Marine enough, pity.

>> No.1133918

>>1133730
most of us are probably hungover.

I for one partook in a 20-move game of "winner drinks" mario party last night with 3 other people.

Was awesome but I'm certainly feelin the repercussions now and nursing myself with weed, water, and castlevania 2.

>> No.1133932

>>1133908
I love MM water levels. Save Diveman's in MM3 for the Gameboy, there's one jump there that always gives me a heart attack.

>> No.1133943
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1133943

This was a great level.

>> No.1133951

>>1133730
This thread was posted on friday and half the replies are disagreeing with the OP

>> No.1133963
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1133963

Mega Man 8 handled the two swimming segments it had pretty nicely.

>> No.1133972

>>1131482
Looking back now, 17 years later, I can't help but to think that the original Tomb Raider was a real technological marvel. It did some really wonderful physics, both land and water, with the limited hardware of the time.

>> No.1133984

I agree with OP, but they are not half as bad as ice levels.

>> No.1134015

>>1131407
B-b-b-but they're my favorite

>> No.1134021

>>1133943
that's not technically swimming that's submarining.

>> No.1134067
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1134067

I've always enjoyed this stage for whatever reason.

>> No.1134069

>>1133984
I disagree, for the most part.
Take the Oracle games. The Ice part of Sword and Shield dungeon was entirely tolerable, while Jabu-Jabu's belly still upsets me.

Unless it's one of those floors where you just point and slide until you hit a wall. Fuck those.

>> No.1134123

The weakness of water level design is how slow the movement tends to be, especially when rotating yourself to change directions in a 3D environment.

>> No.1134138

>>1134067
When Sonic got the spin dash it made the water levels a bit more speed-able. Hydro city didn't really have many under water segments that didn't comprise you just running on the surface or zooming through the water at super speed

>> No.1134207

>>1133908
a thousand times this

>> No.1134351

I've heard Starfy had perfect water levels, mostly because most of the time you are underwater.

>> No.1136129

>>1131407
>they are slow
This is not a negative trait. Learn to slow down sometimes.

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>>1136129

>> No.1137438
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1137438

I used to hate the water levels in Mario 64 but now they're my favorites

the music is nice. it's relaxing

>> No.1137452

>>1131457
anyone else just hear this level's music in their mind? so relaxing.

>> No.1137462

>>1134067
It's music was just awesome.

>> No.1139005

Hydrocity is the only Sonic water level I have fun in. Great music.

>> No.1139957

Lake Hylia Temple , nuff said.. So much rage.

>> No.1139983

>>1131407
For a second I thought that was Alex Kidd.

>> No.1139992
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1139992

Swimming/water levels are great. Oftentimes they feature the greatest tracks in a game and water is, you know, pretty and relaxing. Swim, live to swim, swim to live.