/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.11205772]

The "Sonic CD" of Castlevania games.

Personally I think its overrated and people only like it due to elusiveness/regional exclusivity.

[Anonymous No.11205789]

Peak Reddit game just like its fans who take their opinions from e celebs

[Anonymous No.11205823]

>>11205772
>and people only like it due to
It's fucking Castlevania game dude, people like it because it's fun. The Sonic CD issue was never that it was bad, it was that people were saying it was "the absolute best" of the 16bit ones until it became widely available at which point it moved more towards the middle of the pack below 2 and 3&K. Rondo has been available for a long time now and its reputation as being as good or better than Bloodlines or IV is still going strong.

[Anonymous No.11205876]

>get sneak peak of it with sotn
>"it'd be really cool if this was a full game"
>it actually is
>play it
>it's good

[Anonymous No.11205880]

[Anonymous No.11205891]

>>11205772
I keep hearing this game is hard to find, but do you guys mean only the real game or even emulation too?
I remember downloading the game for PC in the late 2000s I think, I was probably using Windows XP at the time. It was not an emulator, just the game. Now I'm wondering if that was some shady/virus stuff but nothing bad happened I think.

[Anonymous No.11205904]

>>11205772
It's been widely available outside Japan since 2007 when it was rereleased on Wii Virtual Console and the PSP. It hasn't been elusive or exclusive for a long fucking time anon. People like it because it's fun.

[Anonymous No.11205914]

>>11205891
That was a fan project. It was just a rom and emulator prepackaged with a launcher, and how I played the game myself back in the 2000's. You can still find it on Internet Archive these days.

[Anonymous No.11205919]

>>11205772
>Reddit Of Blood
Dracula X was better, there i said it!

[Anonymous No.11206072]

It's crazy that people rate Super Castlevania as the best game in the series
>Shitty bosses
>most of the levels are shit
>Whip Swing is grossly underused
8 directions whip is actually more of a letdown than something that makes the game easier as haters claim. On the other hand, all the new features in rondo are useful and the level design is great, probably one of the best in the series. The game oozes style and they've pulled it off on a souped up 8bit console

[Anonymous No.11206078]

>>11205891
>google rondo of blood chd
>dl it
>open it in retroarch

[Anonymous No.11206130]

>>11205772
>"Sonic CD is overrated and people only like it due to... LE ELUSIVENESS!"
>"Rondo of Blood is overrated and people only like it due to... LE REGIONAL EXCLUSIVITY!"
You don't sound as smart as you think you do, you just sound pretentious, these are both excellent video games that are beloved due to their quality. Stop parroting YouTube videos.

[Anonymous No.11206152]

>>11205772
What is it about 16-bit Castlevania games that cause zoomers to shit their pants in contrarianism and tribalism? Is it because of James Rolfe and Arin Hanson? Was it the Digital Foundry videos?

[Anonymous No.11206170]

>>11205772
What's the name in english

[Anonymous No.11206180]

>>11205772
Agreed about Sonic CD. It had some of the worst stage layouts of the franchise and the time travel mechanic is a interesting gimmick for the first 10 minutes.

As for Rondo, couldn't disagree more, although I still thinks it's not as good as about 5 or 6 other Castlevania titles.

[Anonymous No.11206194]

>>11205772
>The "Sonic CD" of Castlevania games.
I remember downloading this game with another forum member thanks to someone we hung with getting us a cracked code for Magic Engine at the time when they were charging money to play on their emulator. It was the only real way to play the game at the time in 2008 IIRC for the original version. We were excited to play it because of it's reputation at the time. I remember liking it and I remember he finished up around the same time as I did and went "This game is nowhere near as godly as the internet made it out to be!"

[Anonymous No.11206219]

>>11206072
>Shitty
>Shit
Wow, great argumentative tools!
>Underused
Hi arin. Some day you will get past stage 8. Use sub weapons.

[Anonymous No.11206361]

>>11205904
Was going to say this.
Although I would say that seeing that it was a Japanese game released on the NA VC did pique my interest initially, but if it hadn't been great, it wouldn't have stuck with me.

[Anonymous No.11206378]

>>11205772
What I hate the most is that Dracula X on the SNES gets shit from everyone because "muh inferior port"
As a kid who grew up in the 90's, no one fucking knew that some obscure as fuck jap only console had Rondo, if you look at Dracula X as it's own game, it's one of the best games on the SNES

[Anonymous No.11206476]

>>11205772
It's perfectly fine. No one is calling Rondo some top tier ultra god game, there's stuff other classicvanias do better especially if you're looking for challenge, but if there's an overrated game it's Symphony getting the tremendous and endless dicksucking.

[Anonymous No.11206578]

>>11206219
>>11206219
I finished the game two months ago. The last stages are the best ones where you have trickier jumps and more engaging bosses, but in the end it was a dreadful experience. Meanwhile, I'm already hyped for Rondo right from the start. The game knows how to sell itself, while in CV4 you have the exciting doors on the first stage

[Anonymous No.11206582]

>>11206378
Dracula X is a fucking romhack but it's better than CV4

[Anonymous No.11206583]

>>11205772
As a huge Sonic and Castlevaniafag, your analogy sucks because Sonic CD is actually dogshit but Rondo is actually great.

[Anonymous No.11206584]

>>11206578
I dunno I find both Rondo and IV to be pretty good. Calling either a "dreadfuñ experience" makes me wonder if you're judt hyperbolizing for internet argument's sake or if you're serious.
>>11206582
A romhack with completely new levels, more challenge and new bosses? Made by Konami themselves? Sounds good to me.

[Anonymous No.11206593]

It's a bigger, better version of Castlevanias 1 and 3, with cool set-pieces, branching paths, and a second character. What's not to like about it?

[Anonymous No.11206606]

>>11206593
CV 1 and 3?? How? Rondo is more exploration-based and bosses are kind of a big deal too. CV1 and 3 are way more focused on level design and challenging platforming. Not to mention, Rondo removed the stair mechanics, a big part of the challenge in CV III.
Rondo is cool but it's more like its own thing. Supposedly it's even supposed to be a spinoff of regular Akumajou Dracula (sort of like rockman and rockman X)

[Anonymous No.11206686]

>>11205772
Sonic CD is fine. Rondo does annoy me a little because there are plenty of other and better games on the TurboGrafx-CD, as well as other and better Castlevania games like SotN. In Sonic's case there's the rest of the trilogy, but nothing else quite like it on the SEGA CD, even despite standing among great games like Snatcher and Popful Mail.

[Anonymous No.11207174]

>>11205772
No, I like it because it's solid, has anime cutscenes, awesome intro with pretentious german and Maria Renard

[Anonymous No.11207178]

>>11206686
>like SotN
Oh come on...

[Anonymous No.11207181]

>>11206606
>Rondo removed the stair mechanics, a big part of the challenge in CV III
Being able to jump on and off the stairs is not removing the mechanic, just removing the frustration that came from dealing with enemies on stairs

[Anonymous No.11207239]

>>11207181
Point stands.

[Anonymous No.11207241]

>>11206686
Mike Matei owns a copy of this game

[Anonymous No.11207473]

>>11206606
If you know anything about Castlevania physics none of the platforming is challenging. Non momentum based platforming isn't challenging. Get good.

[Anonymous No.11207516]

>>11206583
It’s the opposite.

[Anonymous No.11207519]

Dracula X > Rondo > Bloodlines > IV

[Anonymous No.11207534]

>>11205772
but it has le cutscenes!

[Anonymous No.11207624]

>>11205772
Unlike the sonic franchise, castlevania actually had some good games in it. After the slop that was bloodlines, playing this might have been a relief for some of the fans. The series was never the same afterward anyway, it just turned into IGAvania. As much as I sometimes enjoy IGA games, they just aren't the same as the classicvanias.

[Anonymous No.11207772]

>>11206686
>there are plenty of other and better games on the TurboGrafx-CD

not sapphire
nexzr, star parodier, rayzanber 2/3, spriggran, and lords/gates are all better

[Anonymous No.11207885]

>>11207519
Bait

[Anonymous No.11208042]

>>11205772
Sonic CD only sucked because of the bolted-on spin dash, if they fixed that the game would be 10/10

[Anonymous No.11208052]

>>11207624
>t. Nintendo fanboy

[Anonymous No.11208409]

>>11208052
>everyone who doesn't like what I like must only like something else
I never liked sonic and never will. It wasn't ever fun. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.11209037]

>>11208409
No one cares if you like Sonic or not, it's normal to like what others dislike and vice versa, what's annoying is the attitude that's so common with Sonic and not so common with other franchises, the "I don't like it/it doesn't suit my tastes, and therefore it's a bad video game!" which no one takes seriously, you didn't get called a fanboy for not liking Sonic, but for implying a classic series had no good video games in it, which is stupid.

[Anonymous No.11209048]

>>11209037
Sonic fucking sucks dude, get over it. You just flung shit and called me a nintendo fanboy because I said I don't like it. Taste your own medicine and realize how fucking stupid you sound.

[Anonymous No.11209250]

>>11209048
I didn't call you a fanboy because you said you didn't like it, that's just you twisting things, you got called a fanboy for saying it had no good games, that it fucking sucks, that's like me saying your beloved Castlevania sucks and has no good games, it's very different from simply saying I dislike it, you said you simply disliked it after saying it was bad and had no good games, which is why you got called a fanboy in the first place, not for simply not liking it. You're retarded.

[Anonymous No.11209392]

>>11209250
Nothing I said was wrong, however. Sonic fucking sucks. Cope.

[Anonymous No.11209448]

>>11206130
Expect more pretentious Sonic retards coming out of the wood works thanks to to that one video

[Anonymous No.11209460]

>>11206686
>COOL cover art
>AWESOME presentation
>actually a GAY/DUMB little shmup with awful SFX
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

[Anonymous No.11209472]

>>11207624
>>11208409
Are you a Metroid fag? Even if not, there's actually more decent Sonic games compared to that feminist in space trash.
also Igavanias are where Castlevania got really great after years of greatness, so I'm not sure why you're discounting Iga's stuff as trash? Pic related mogs most Mario and Metroid dumpster fire garbage, even Jet Set Willy.

[Anonymous No.11209478]

>>11209472
>even Jet Set Willy
THAT IT YOU LITTLE BLUE LOVING SHIT!
YOU HAVE GONE WAY TOO FAR!
I HOPE YOU GET BANNED TO OBLIVION FUCK FACE!

[Anonymous No.11209482]

oh no, not the sacred Willie....

[Anonymous No.11209486]

>>11209037
His favorite game is probably some fruitbowl Sonic fangame or calls Sonic Mania a romhack.

[Anonymous No.11209507]

Auster....

[Anonymous No.11209517]

Rondo:
>amazing visuals and music
>one of the best in terms of level design and combat in its franchise
>actually rare

Sonic CD:
>amazing visuals and music
>one of the worst in terms of gameplay, has many regressions from Sonic 1
>very buggy and not polished
>overshadowed by Sonic 2
>most sold Sega CD game in the west

Outside of the first point, I don't see the similarities OP

[Anonymous No.11209842]

>>11209037
I like Sonic, but yeah, the Sonic fanbase is genuinely autistic, and can't regulate their emotions on anything. Some of those guys literally come across like they want to kill you, for saying you think Shadow is stupid.

[Anonymous No.11210008]

>>11207174
Uoh

[Anonymous No.11210013]

>>11206152
I've been wondering the same thing, it's the same stupid shit in every Castlevania thread. Don't dare tell them you love to play and enjoy all of them.
Just recently played IV and Bloodlines again, had a great time. Now the Dominus Collection is out but that's not retro, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.11210026]

>>11210013
Even the Dominus Collection gets shit like this one jackass in a community I lurk going "oh great a Collection with only two games". It's like nobody truly likes Castlevania, they only like to argue about Castlevania.

[Anonymous No.11210027]

>>11206170
Devil's Castle Dracula X: Rondo of Blood

[Anonymous No.11210032]

>>11210026
*only two good games, I meant

[Anonymous No.11210104]

>>11205772
>overrated

Yes

>and people only like it due to elusiveness/regional exclusivity.

No. It's a great game with a fucking sick presentation.

It's just not as good for "hardcore" fans because it's a bit on the easy side and it doesn't have any really cool weird mechanics like Bloodlines letting you polevault around with i-frames or x68 Dracula having insanely challenging and intricate level design. But in terms of raw level and enemy design it's still a perfectly solid Castlevania with fun stages and some cool enemies to fight.

This "people only like it because its rare!!!" line is fucking retarded for anyone who was born past the 90's when this shit has been playable in emulator in decades. Nobody gives a fuck about availability, retard. There are plenty of other kusoge that's even rarer that nobody gives a shit about.

[Anonymous No.11210228]

>>11209478
>i figured out how to get rid of you
>gets rid of himself
>enma's like wtf are you doing and puts him back there

[Anonymous No.11210236]

Recently replayed the original PC Engine version then jumped right into the 2.5D PSP remake. Dunno if this is a hot take or not but the PSP remake is way harder then the PC Engine Original

[Anonymous No.11210270]

>>11210104
Bloodlines is bloody easy pal

[Anonymous No.11210283]

>>11210270
Oh sure, it's only SLIGHTLY harder than Rondo. But it does stand out quite a bit due a number of fairly unique mechanics (the light/heavy dichotomy for attacks where you can hold the button to get a multi-hitting version of your basic attack, lecarde and eric having i-frame manuevers for evading attacks, item-crashes, the power up system that rewards you with a flashier weapon and screen obliterating sub-weapon if you can avoid damage). Rondo in comparison is a little bit more meat and potatoes, aside from the item crashes, backflip, and I guess the branching paths (CV3 already did that one though).

X68 Akumajo Dracula though is probably the hardest game in the classic lineup though.

[Anonymous No.11210361]

>>11209486
>explicitly say that I find sonic boring
>haha I bet he [headcanon about sonic fangames]
Least deranged sonic fan.

[Anonymous No.11210701]

>>11210270
Bloody easy is bloodlines ntsc

[Anonymous No.11210779]

>>11210236
I recently played TDXC too in light of the HCR, and I came to the same conclusion that TDXC is overall harder - but it -should- feel easier. Much was nerfed, like the serpent and Dullahan bosses, and Dracula's 2nd form. It mostly comes down to the original feeling more responsive and having more clarity in the visual design. I think Maria might've been slightly rebalanced, too. That, and the new bosses are a decent challenge.

[Anonymous No.11210797]

>>11210779
I'm glad I'm not crazy, though I don't know what HCR is.

But I was stuck on Shaft in the 2.5D version for what felt like forever. Dracula is a pushover in both versions though to be fair.

[Anonymous No.11211149]

>>11210013
>>11210026
I've seen in the previous Castlevania thread (the one with the Bloodlines OP image) just underage anons posting content from the sharty with James Rolfe"baseding" going
>IS THAT AN AIMABLE WHIP THAT REMOVES CHALLENGE AND MAKES THE GAME EASY? FUCK YEAH I DON'T HAVE TO THINK
and seen people from /tv/ and r/TheCinemassacreTruth which quite frankly it's obvious they're the same people as /tv/, just with usernames being outstandingly mocking of how James revisited the Classicvanias but still settled on Super IV as his favorite,and others being mad for SotN he prefers Richter Mode over the main Alucard campaign.

[Anonymous No.11211162]

>>11207241
Forget him, where my angry nintendo nerd

[Anonymous No.11211674]

Dance of the Holy Man arranged

(MD ver) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFigmsJL04o
(X68k ver) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lykU0dAYSgE
(TG-16) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNVQeYZz3SE

[Anonymous No.11211680]

>>11210779
Jojo reference!

[Anonymous No.11211704]

>>11210361
Anyways, what's your favorite? Probably some fag goon shit.

[Anonymous No.11211784]

>>11211704
Don't talk shit about Panzer Dragoon.

[Anonymous No.11212276]

>>11210779
>It mostly comes down to the original feeling more responsive
Funny, it's always felt like the opposite for me. I have a much easier time playing DXC even with stuff like Dracula's 3rd form, because I've always found the original's controls to be pretty stiff.

[Anonymous No.11212824]

>>11210797
>I don't know what HCR is.
Probably meant the recent Haunted Castle Revisited, which feels like an in-between of the Chronicles remakes and ReBirth reimagining.

[Anonymous No.11212952]

IV sucks the most because of its glacial pace. Even with save states I'm too fucking bored by it to finish it. I really can't be bothered.to play through such an ugly, droll medicore fame
>t. Finished every other CV game, including CV2 but excluding Bloodlines because it's genuinely challenging.

[Anonymous No.11212981]

>>11212952
>Bloodlines because it's genuinely challenging.
lmao, good bait

[Anonymous No.11213397]

>>11212824
What's the fucking joke here? I wish I could read this ESL babble. "Artists" who can't write yet insist on showing off their garbage script are the worst. Faggot couldn't even turn off pen pressure for consistent lettering.

[Anonymous No.11213410]

>>11212952
I need to revisit IV sometime.

I have a sneaking suspicion that IV is more enjoyable if you don't play it in one sitting, but across several play sessions. If you go into it for a "1cc" experience it's just too long and methodically paced for the (lack of) difficulty.

[Anonymous No.11213556]

>>11213410
Do try a 1cc for IV. You will realize it's not as easy as the game makes you initially believe.
Also it's a 1 hour game if you do a 1cc, it's fine.
I found Rondo to be much easier to 1cc than IV.

[Anonymous No.11213846]

What's your strategy for handling these guys in Castlevania 3's Second Loop?

[Anonymous No.11214068]

>>11213397

[Anonymous No.11214083]

>>11214068
This one is probably funnier without understanding the language. Shit, even if I could read it, the artifacts and color choices would make it a challenge to see what they're saying.

[Anonymous No.11215116]

bros i just got a 1cc on castlevania bloodlines. it took me a little while and probably pointless since it has a password system but I managed it. fuck that pillar miniboss. also fuck the castlevania collection for crashing as soon as I tried to open the options menu to record the replay

[Anonymous No.11215127]

>>11213846
Pray.

[Anonymous No.11215132]

>>11215116
>buying a retro game collection
You are goycattle.

[Anonymous No.11215206]

>>11206072
I just hate how strong the early snes vibe is with the game. The mode 7 actually looks pretty great but something about the sprites and the music just seems shitty in a way that games only are when they come out in the first year or two of a system’s life. Ironically games like Super Mario World and Final Fantasy 2(4) avoided that entirely by basically being really beefed up NES games, but you can tell castlevania 4 was really going for the 1990 wow factor which failed to impress me as a kid playing snes in the late 90s

[Anonymous No.11215217]

>>11206476
Nah Symphony is a perfect game, objectively. The only problem with “metroidvania”s is indie developer’s hard-on for them. Which is understandable, if someone was ever dumb enough to let me design my own game it would definitely be a Symphony/Super Metroid clone that would probably not be half as good as either of those.

[Anonymous No.11215246]

>>11215206
>the sprites and the music just seems shitty
You can have your opinion. Just know that it's highly unpopular.
The way to shit on IV is to claim that the whip is too OP and the sub weapons are useless (despite the fact most people can't do a 1cc of it and I bet my balls a majority of kids parroting that shit got their first game over in stage 3's submerged city part). If there's one thing people agree about IV is that it still looks and sounds great, despite being an early 1991 game. Good luck convincing people otherwise. Maybe if you become a famous flash animator eceleb and manage to viralize your opinions.

[Anonymous No.11215259]

>>11215246
I know I’m in the minority and I don’t care. The gameplay itself is fine, I like the multi directional whipping and the final 3rd of the game is plenty hard for me, but it’s tied with bloodlines for worst aesthetics in a Classicvania in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.11215272]

>>11215259
I think both IV and Bloodlines look great. If anything it's Rondo that I think looks a bit sketchy in many places (all these copypastesd 8bit brick walls), but to be fair I don't think there's a single bad looking CV game (not counting outsourced stuff like Amigavania)
Although even Amigavania doesn't look too bad, they just fucked up Curse of Man/cookie monster and turned him into a clown for some reason.