Always see comments on how the genesis/mega drive sound chip was crap. Im here to defend sega, feel free to join me and post your great memorable tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSasSOBMtxQ

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Anonymous Thu Oct 3 14:51:44 2013 No.1115463 [DELETED]

Always see comments on how the genesis/mega drive sound chip was crap.

Im here to defend sega, feel free to join me and post your great memorable tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSasSOBMtxQ

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 14:58:19 2013 No.1115474

sega slaters only chat shit because they had some mono shitty TV back in the day and dont know music or sound production

inbefore blast processing and buzz words

megadrive music is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the snes or any console, even ps or saturn n64 in terms of production considering it had 5 channels.

compulsory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYzgCI6Q1I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD3Jg-sWQHM

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:03:31 2013 No.1115482 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYNLz8goZdE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR_dtc3xL_c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB_mOsI-ddM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1UXzrZPMM I don't even like Phantasy Star, but the intro to IV is just so intense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:05:29 2013 No.1115484 File: 80 KB, 600x466, sega_heroes_golden_axe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1115474 whoa, that ristar track has quite a lot going on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY7Fn8MuvXw

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:18:40 2013 No.1115498 Genesis often sounded like shit because of developers not using it properly. In games with well-done sound it was awesome. Not as good as SNES, but still.

>>	NESfag Thu Oct 3 15:21:56 2013 No.1115504 NES and SNES. Do I have to say anything more. Becouse I can. I can elaborate very much indeed. You can take your SEGA shit and shovel it! So mad right now!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:22:43 2013 No.1115506 >>1115484 Oh god they have four sets of biceps.

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:22:58 2013 No.1115505
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>>1115482
superb mixed selection you got there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l--Tl7zASoo&list=PLBF227CDB709932FC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvFxZoQTnKk&list=PLB0xooEkKbSYcx5ZA1zr2s22m4h847beC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqhG2cbX6eM&list=PLA468E2813CF52C60

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:25:57 2013 No.1115515 It's really weird how inconsistent music quality is on the Genesis. Sometimes you get horrible sounding crap and then sometimes you get really great sounding stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObJVuRTIIS4

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:25:57 2013 No.1115517 >>1115504 take ur rage back to /v/ kiddo

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:28:00 2013 No.1115523
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I have your back OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNO1Dlj087A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYGBqmxoLrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E_1r8yYU_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXfX4B3v9SM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lXhq66CFS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5OplVydslA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJXiZpCL0j0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djPS6voIoKE

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:28:26 2013 No.1115521 >>1115515 totally forgot that track. holy shite thats awesome

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:30:29 2013 No.1115525 >>1115505 niqqa pls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE5kV3yZ3kM >>1115515 niqqa pls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTQIiIKummw

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:32:11 2013 No.1115527 >>1115504 >That Nintendo is the only good retro company. Why you mad bro? People like you make me sick. Sure I like Nintendo as well, but common this is a Sega Thread.

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:34:06 2013 No.1115528

>>1115474
dude the snes had like 8 channels I think, and the n64 didn't work like that at all, there wasn't a static limitation to the number of simultaneous sounds as defined by the hardware - and the ps1 was completely different and not like any of those whatsoever - I mean this is a disc-based system we're talking about

I could be wrong but I think the Genesis had 6 sound channels anyway, not sure if one of those was restricted to white noise or something and so you're not 'counting' it or something

not trying to be a dick or start a flamewar or anything but I'm just curious if we're even talking about the same thign

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:37:03 2013 No.1115536

>>1115515
It's because the Genesis sound chip actually takes talent to code for. With the SNES, you could throw together something and worst case scenario, it'd be boring but inoffensive. With the Genesis, if you half-ass it, it will rape ears. But if you know what you're doing and you're paying attention, it can sound legendary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:37:03 2013 No.1115537 >>1115528 production = opinion yeah everything else is right.

>>	NESfag Thu Oct 3 15:40:41 2013 No.1115540 >>1115528 Yeah, I know what you mean. Nintendo IS the best. Always have. These faggots just don't understand that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:42:14 2013 No.1115542 >>1115536 The good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg05ecSBKHI The bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 15:43:18 2013 No.1115545 >>1115537 >>1115540 this is the weridest troll thread i have ever seen

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:08:17 2013 No.1115583 Loved heavy metal as a kid, so the Mega Drive games always seemed to emulate proper distorted guitar way better than the SNES. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VzLxWBho-8&list=PL537B85632B2569C8

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:12:17 2013 No.1115594 File: 11 KB, 512x448, TimeTrax003_zps463c3e36.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_IJYc9t3vQ#t=21m59s There can only be one king of the genesis soundchip.

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:16:09 2013 No.1115605
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I hated the sound on the Genesis for the longest time until recently when I hooked my system back up, plugged my headphones into it and listened to the music in Revenge of Shinobi and Streets of Rage. Fucking blew my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Z3uVXV2EQ

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:20:12 2013 No.1115618

there was a lot of great MD music themes, but I would say the shit far outweighed the good

not so much that they were shit, but rather the music generally wasn't the focus with MD games; many would just have a minimalist drumbeat and a catchy bass hook throughout each level

but the games where the music WAS a focus (ie Strider, Sonic series, the Shinobi games, MK, Streets of Rage) it was fantastic

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:21:09 2013 No.1115619 >>1115605 while on the subject of shinobi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmBA_d85iTo&list=PL3B78DB5DDCABECFC OP here btw, keep them coming guys, im listening to every post you've made so far. Total gems i've forgotten and others i missed completely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:22:46 2013 No.1115620 >>1115605 Revenge of Shinobi still has one of my favorite soundtracks of all time. Yuzo Koshiro was on top of his game during that period.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:25:11 2013 No.1115626 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUKIxOS1E54 It's even cooler with samples of the ninja shouts in there with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:26:40 2013 No.1115632 >>1115618 forgot example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8IJM9DHF8 the theme (and only) music to the MD port of Jim Power. The game was never released, but the rom was leaked in the early 00s I actually have this on my smartphone

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:29:25 2013 No.1115636

While I don't have a strong preference towards SNES or Genesis, I have to say Genesis' soundchip sounds really "full" and "warm" when used well. SNES tries hard to emulate real instruments instead of going for more synthetic sounds like Genesis. Like with most imitations, it sounds kinda hollow even if the music itself is composed well. It is more versatile because of it, though.

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:35:16 2013 No.1115647
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>>1115605
Yeah, Streets of Rage 1 and 2 had incredible soundtracks. Never understood what happened to the soundtrack in 3, but...whatever...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5vpIpj2pHc

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:38:36 2013 No.1115652 >>1115636 It's also why different models of Genesis sound different. I love my X'eye but it's still not as "full" as the Model 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-KsaGBUVz4

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:40:34 2013 No.1115657

Look, the reason why it was so hard and inconsistent for the developers to make good music is because of the way Sega designed sound for the Genesis in the first place.

I don't remember the exact details, but it was something along the lines of having to make music with a contemporary midi system, and then having to PORT it onto the Genesis. It was a harder process then making music for the SNES.

Only a few developers and Sega themselves knew how to make good sound for the Genesis. Quite frankly, it was a huge flaw and poor choice on Sega's part.

Having said that, Vectorman has a great minimalist soundtrack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53nongiIpCw

The Genesis version of The Adventures of Batman & Robin blew the SNES version out of the water in terms of music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur0hHL3QEP0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewMxDna-GAc

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:45:14 2013 No.1115663 >>1115657 It was just the difference between having traditional composers (old men) able to compose for the SNES vs needing young pop artists to compose for the Genesis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:48:25 2013 No.1115665 >>1115463 >Always see comments on how the genesis/mega drive sound chip was crap that's because most of the people on this board don't actually know shit about old consoles

>>	NESfag Thu Oct 3 16:55:19 2013 No.1115674 >>1115665 It was utter garbage. The SNES had it all, was superior in almost every way.

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 16:59:56 2013 No.1115680

>>1115674
>almost
>tfw imagining mega man X with sonic's lack of slowdown
If Sega did anything right, it's making sure their games fucking ran right. Sonic Adventure ran at 60 FPS on the dreamcast. It should be fucking unacceptable nowadays to release a game that runs at 30 FPS, let alone below it. I blame console FPS fags

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:00:08 2013 No.1115681 >>1115674 Wow, you really are 12. Enjoy your reverb sounding slowdown machine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:05:05 2013 No.1115690 >>1115594 love the ym2612 chip

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:05:19 2013 No.1115692 >>1115680 30fps is a standard now because we are running on 8 year old hardware. Dreamcast never got that old; plus it was a very well balanced system, it only lacked a T&L unit and shaders (which didn't even exist at the time).

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:10:54 2013 No.1115698 >>1115692 >8 year old hardware that's not an excuse. if the machine can't handle it, don't crank up the graphics. Sonic Generations is barely playable on the console versions, even Sega's guilty of this behavior now

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:18:19 2013 No.1115719

What, no Devil's Crush?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_DnpZdJ_yY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgZvNF3Y2kQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHQkghak9Sg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGGCsKwDwVM

P.S. fuck that "Dragon's Fury" noise; it'll always be Devil's Crush as far as I'm concerned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:31:09 2013 No.1115735 Favourite game of all time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvhJoRY7lUs&list=PLA8266E78385B85D2 Best overworld theme in existence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yG1IpkQ4MA

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:37:13 2013 No.1115751 >>1115719 If I don't have a genesis is it worth emulating the Japanese version instead or is only the name changed? I've been hearing praise for this game a lot lately and want to check it out

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:48:37 2013 No.1115774 >>1115751 The US version has some graphic alterations (pentagrams turned into generic stars, the background looks like ass, etc). Definitely get the japanese version; there's barely any text in the game anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 17:52:08 2013 No.1115779 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKvKOx4uIPg&list=PLF06712C4C1CF7557

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 18:25:40 2013 No.1115820 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo8B_bOFs2k

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 18:27:08 2013 No.1115825 >>1115647 >streets of rage back in 02, Yuzo Koshiro did a live DJ set of Streets of Rage 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhRJXhSK0CM

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 22:53:56 2013 No.1116264

>>1115536
Couldn't have said it better. FM synthesis is much more difficult than subtractive synthesis (NES, C64 etc.) or samples (SNES).

Here's examples for bad tracks on both systems:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHyH6-LVVbM (at least the first track)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSD4vaOPxpg

Then the great ones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo_4R17gYSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0UlGDsH2R4

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 23:13:44 2013 No.1116291 >>1116264 A lot of Capcom games on SNES would actually veer out of key too somehow. I remember one of the MMX games and even SFII had parts that were audibly out of tune

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 23:14:14 2013 No.1116295 >>1116264 On your first video I really like this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eHyH6-LVVbM#t=169

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 23:24:31 2013 No.1116306 >>1116291 capcom also has that fucking annoying trumpet, oh fuck I hate that damn trumpet

Anonymous Thu Oct 3 23:35:01 2013 No.1116325

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWI7Nn3UGE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgTuIB5wKio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2qiIsCJUVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1AuJgVZQ64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDwm9uwc10Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRLzaFWDG1I

TMNT Tournament Fighters for the Genesis has an incredible soundtrack

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 3 23:45:04 2013 No.1116341 Nobody with a brain says that the sound chip in the Genesis was 'crap'. It was legitimately technology that was two years older, as was the whole console.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 00:56:37 2013 No.1116460

I enjoyed the Wiz 'n Liz music. Very catchy chip tunes through all the levels. Do keep in mind this game takes place in a strange fantasy land where things 'are a little strange and magical' and the music furthers that game design.

World music playlist http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVkrIQxUMKg&list=PL024900431FB19F31

Sample gameplay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yPN99_-xx4

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 01:01:37 2013 No.1116467 I'm not going to say that the Genesis sound chip was particularly amazing, but god damn does it even make the SNES sound chip sound like shit. I don't know why it sounds so terrible to me, but it's enough to make me not regret not having one.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 01:05:08 2013 No.1116478

>>1116467
Genesis is FM synth (ableit limited heavily by only a few channels and file size), while everything the SNES plays is a sample. That's why Genesis mush sounds like coherent tune while the SNES music sounds disjointed.

I wouldn't say the SNES sounds like shit, though. There are FAR more Genesis games that straight up rape your ears than SNES. Most American devs used the default soundkit to produce absolutely atrocious Genesis music.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 01:16:56 2013 No.1116507 Some fan made renditions using the Genesis sound chip sound absolutely fucking awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_pUuikMmqU Too bad there was never any proper Megaman ports for the Genesis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 01:33:24 2013 No.1116525 sub terrania http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SA7KR4brfo

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 02:07:57 2013 No.1116564 Posting some Langrisser II. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnNLyN-wX28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnCyiTBgaQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70A6jIRF9Zw

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 02:21:01 2013 No.1116575 My favorite Genesis tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXCBnE_-hHY The fact that it's from a McDonald's game is pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 02:46:04 2013 No.1116590 http://youtu.be/Z06p2C9gEtA

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 02:50:03 2013 No.1116596

The general rule of thumb is, if the Japanese composed or at least developed the sound driver (much like All Sonic games except the first one) for it, it will sound average at worst, amazing at best. If Yurops were involved, they'd be great. If Murricans were involved, they'd use the shitty GEMS driver and you better fucking hope Tallarico or STI used it.

>>1116507
Anyone can use samples to recreate it. It takes real skill to re-create it in assembly, which is ultimately the only way the music can be rendered.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 03:00:34 2013 No.1116607
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My personal favorites would be from Two Crude Dudes. They botched the songs in the process (those would've been at home on the SNES given the arcade's sample based nature), but they're worth a listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi4D2XGSMKw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugh8TEc_xpw

Hell, the whole game should've been on the SNES, but they probably couldn't because

>3.58 MHz
>Year of our Lord 1991

Typical console shenanigans.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 03:38:34 2013 No.1116643

>>1116291
I think it's because the initial part of a sample could have a slightly different pitch from the main loop depending on what kind of sample it was. Then lower-pitched notes would have the initial part last for a longer time, affecting the apparent pitch. A lot of devs were too lazy to correct for that.

Honestly though the main problem with SNES music is that it's just too bland. Low-quality samples don't sound that good compared to FM synthesis. It was only when ROM prices dropped and cartridges got bigger that SNES music really began to shine, when they could afford to fill the cart with lots of high-quality audio.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 03:43:34 2013 No.1116647 File: 7 KB, 320x224, Ooze.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No one posting music from the Ooze? It's got some of my favorite Genesis tracks on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqvHRSscO9c

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 03:49:34 2013 No.1116652 >>1115632 This is one of my favorites. I listen to it every now and then just because I need to hear it again.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 04:10:24 2013 No.1116658

>>1115636
It's probably the high frequencies that you're talking about. SNES samples were limited by the amount of space on the cart, and most developers had to make compromises in terms of the sample rate of the audio. This meant that the higher frequencies were cut out. You could still tell what kind of instrument it was supposed to be, but it'd sound muffled like a worn-out cassette tape. Genesis music never had that problem. While it was hard to design FM patches with a warm, well-balanced sound, it'd always sound like you were hearing the raw audio and not a recording. Any decent musical arrangement on Genesis, with every instrument at the right volume level and nothing too egregious in terms of frequency content, would have that full sound you're talking about.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 05:52:09 2013 No.1116748

>>1115523
That OutRun was pretty great.

>>1115528
Genesis had two chips. The YM2612 (aka OPN2) and the SN76496.
The latter is a stereo version of the SN76489 used in the SegaMasterSystem and GameGear, with a slightly different psuedorandom noise. This ProgrammableSoundGenerator (Sega called the PSG an SSG instead for some reason) had 3 square waves and one noise channel.

YM2612 was the beefy part with 6 channels of 4op FM where the last channel could switch modes and play samples

>>1115632
I'll have to scour project2612 for this. Nice one

>>1115647
Tresor records in 1993 happened. Some of the hardest most disjoint techno ever happened during this age and it reflected on Yoshiro's music.

>>1115657
This is one particular method that a lot of in-house games used. You're thinking of the SMPS engine. Other companies had other music programmers who made their own engine.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 06:15:19 2013 No.1116768

Right. Some really amazing effects here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fADYJqP24xI

Ya'll niggas need more Motoaki Takenouchi. All his instrumentation sounded close to real instruments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaVycJXALQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lfMKhWKOE

Konami consistently knocked it out of the park
RKA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXP38TV1tIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1WM50dxJd8
Contra Hard Corp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLO5PDrgO1Q
Castlevania: Bloodlines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9KyV4zrdvE

Yuzo Koshiro's tune from SoR3 is some superb detroit techno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldUi-Po9UjI

And I gotta finish this up with my fav genesis composer for Treasure. MOTHERFUCKING KAZUO HANZAWA

Gunstar Heroes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kLX_Z0Jdik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve23_djH0yI
Yu Yu Hakusho Makyou Toitsusen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngc_C_No-3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUTAKlTlfMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAbapptdOY8
Alien Soldier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEi0YPpttf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFYmLlEgvEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39rNuscd5ug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1mHJpa3M5c

Have a good day

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 10:02:49 2013 No.1116935 File: 79 KB, 640x479, 492330-sonic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Crusader of centy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOvHuIIBt_4&list=PLirSddeMOYZ4EFvn0BF07WogiCc3b8fnR Religious undertones aplenty in this game

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 10:28:19 2013 No.1116957

>>1116643
>Honestly though the main problem with SNES music is that it's just too bland.
Think of it like this: the SNES soundchip imitates instruments, Genesis' soundchip IS an instrument. The approach makes a massive difference in how "alive" the music sounds.

I'm not shitting on SNES though, Equinox has some of the best vidya tunes around.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 10:29:49 2013 No.1116960

I hated the genesis sound chip too growing up. But that was because I was a Nintendo fanboy and thought sega only did sports games.
I've been listening to vgmpire, a podcast on game music and, holy shit, in the right hands the genesis chip is amazing if you like synthesizer style music. Tim Follin is a beast.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 10:44:49 2013 No.1116976 >>1116575 That's good old Tommy Tallarico for you... The entire soundtrack of Global Gladiators is fucking awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcKAX7aYlz4

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 10:55:20 2013 No.1116995

>>1116564

Speaking of Langrisser...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMYnjWBpIM&list=PLA4C6F823101AE20A&index=2

And while we're on Japanese games, Wolf Team's consistently had some fucking great tunes:

El Viento:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXn7V9JKnQo&list=PLA5962250E53FD0B8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEUfqXA8gQ&list=PLA5962250E53FD0B8

Arcus Odyssey:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3Nji4minSU&list=PL6B0F3A17EE6C4D59

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:08:31 2013 No.1117256 Why are the Japanese so based when it came to the Mega Drive's music? I kinda wish the Japanese homebrew scene focused some more on the Mega Drive, I'd love to see and hear what amazing shit they could churn out.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:12:31 2013 No.1117263

>>1117256
They could also focus on X68000, PC-98, or a number of other random platforms and arcade boards that used FM sound. MD is actually one of the worse choices because you only get 5 channels of FM plus samples, while other systems often have up to 8.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:37:01 2013 No.1117301 >>1117263 I guess, but the few MD games I have are Japanese and give me this sense of nostalgia, despite never playing these games before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:49:31 2013 No.1117323 >>1115463 >Always see comments on how the genesis/mega drive sound chip was crap. They're fucking lies. The SNES chip was more versitile, but the YM2612 was really fucking good at what it did: dat funk

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:51:01 2013 No.1117326 >>1115463 Shouldn't this generally just be YUZO KOSHIRO and TECMO thread?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 13:59:30 2013 No.1117338 Has Target Earth been posted yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz0PRFciWHc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UFoF-Jx1nQ (sounds better with gun sound effects, which sadly aren't present)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 14:39:00 2013 No.1117416 If anybody's into making music there's a really good Genesis/Megadrive sound chip VST: http://www.alyjameslab.com/alyjameslabfmdrive.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 15:18:25 2013 No.1117465 >>1117416 There's also Shiru's VGM Music Maker, Delek's Deflemask. Or mic's xpmck (which is an mml compiler). I think it's also possible with vgmck, but that's soooooooooo poorly documented

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 16:06:55 2013 No.1117515

>>1115463

I find it funny you should say that. For every one bitch about genesis sound being "inferior" 5 people always jump to the "U LIE! This games soundtrack was awesome!"

It really depends on what you do with the hardware. A stradivarius can sound like shit if someone who doesn't know what they are doing plays it.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 16:08:24 2013 No.1117517
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I didn't read all of the thread, so maybe I'm doubling up here, but hearing any of these songs twice isn't going to make your day any worse.

Lets open up with an excellent example of Ecco's simultaneously chill and ominous atmosphere, "Open Ocean":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1uz7zzqLZk

Next, the prefect driving music, delivered through OutRun 2019's "Relight My Fire". A sweet jam like this makes me want to just get in my car and drive, no destination required.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56qZSanvy74

Of course, as cliché as it might be at this point, you can't have a YM2612 thread without Sonic. He may have gotten his name from his supersonic running speed, but he's no slouch in the sound department either. "Flying Battery Zone Act 2" from Sonic & Knuckles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8G40yhxNQ

While we're hitting the classics, we'd be remiss to ignore Yuzo Koshiro's classic work on Streets of Rage. A pounding beat to match the pounding I'm giving those thugs, here's "Round 1"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgjlDZZjuEo

I'm going to go ahead and fanboy out by putting two Koshiro tracks in a row. The funky bassline mixed with aspects of traditional Japanese music make "Shinobi Walk" a perfect theme for Shinboi III.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NllOjUcSfwU

I don't know the name of the actual composer, but Techo Soft has always had a way with the Genesis sound chip. "Sniper" does a wonderful job of portraying the tactical desperation of Herzog Zwei.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMNTaGOeA10

Castlevania has always been known for it's dark, sweeping music. While Castlevania: Bloodlines' soundtrack doesn't really play to the YM2612's strengths as much as other songs I've listed, it's still a shame that so few tracks from it were reused in a series that loves rearranging old music so much. Here's "Iron Blue Intention" from stage 4, which has been reused, I believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0

More in a second post.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 16:31:33 2013 No.1117541

>>1117517
That ecco tune is awful. The ambient tunes in the sequel are way better. Especially the title song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32S2oJuANxo

They realized they couldn't do high pitched sounds in it without destroying peoples ears, so they went for more deep-sea echoing bass instead.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 16:35:04 2013 No.1117547

>>1117517

Vectorman is famous for it's visual presentation,but one track in particular stuck in player's heads as well: "Tidal Surge"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZqqfefhAWA

I'm fanboying again, this time for Tecno Soft. "Hydra" form Thunder Force III pulled me into the action from the first time I turned this game on. The level's a cakewalk, but the music still makes you feel a sense of heroic urgency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXfGEgLfO-k

Some would argue that Phantasy Star II is a hard game for the modern player to get into. While it's a tough grind, the wonderful battle theme "Rise or Fall" keeps the hype high while I'm playing. The percussion in particular is exciting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiFO69fAQ9w

Not even licensed games could escape from the wonder of a YM2612 wielded well. Here's the theme to Jurassic Park's "Pump Station." You just know something dangerous is lurking in the dark when you hear this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrCGbB97Do4

Alissia Dragoon's modern fame is unfortunately to be trotted out as ONE OF THE FIRST GAMES TO HAVE A FEMALE PROTAGONIST despite coming so much later than classics like Metroid and Baraduke. I think it should be remembered more for it's challenging and unique gameplay and it's fantastic soundtrack. Here's "5-2," I don't know if it has another name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EccPIDCkQkk

Last on the list but first in our minds are those embodiments of Funk themselves, ToeJam and Earl with "Rapmaster Rocket Racket"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WSHni8Dik8

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 16:44:04 2013 No.1117557

>>1117541

Different strokes for different folks! Ecco 2's soundtrack is equally amazing, but I wouldn't knock Open Ocean. It's one song that's really stuck with me over the years, though part of it might be due to the frantic pace of the level it's attached to. The high pitched noises make me think of echolocation and aliens all in one.

>>1117547

Now every genesis fan's probably heard all the tunes I posted already. But if you're a fan of the sound of the YM2612, I really recommend checking out some original FM chip. It's not half as popular as the DMG or anything, but there are some great works out there on it.

"Storm of the Dark Moon": Grovemaster303 ft. Jredd and Dropbit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJbOPj1WNE0

"Volt City": Groovemaster303 ft. Jredd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4YFjsTDbQc

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 17:15:04 2013 No.1117603 Hellfire had some great music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O4HE6mvkYQ&list=PLA09E5402AAE5092A

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 17:25:34 2013 No.1117619 >>1117547 >not posting the ultimate Jurassic Park track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBmBy8vchCw

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 17:27:35 2013 No.1117620 >>1115515 Man, that best encapsulates why I still have my Genesis plugged in. With my SNES, the music could at best be non-intrusive. With the Genesis, you would actually look forward to playing a level because of the music.

Anonymous Fri Oct 4 17:27:35 2013 No.1117621

>>1117619
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBmBy8vchCw

Haha, I almost did! In fact I had pasted it into the box and everything, but changed to the Pump Station because that tune in particular was more memorable to me. But Visitor's Center is also a great track.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 4 20:56:31 2013 No.1118019 >>1116957 This post deserved a reply, because god damn it sums it up so nicely.

Anonymous Sat Oct 5 10:01:10 2013 No.1119030

What, thread died already? Here, let's have some more:

>Greendog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTL4ZrG-KXk

>Jewel Master:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOlDwRyjjI&list=PLB7D95C8BF87ABC4E

>Undeadline:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxXhhDH0HHA&list=PL60EC11675F34B81B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rz_mFPGufE&list=PL60EC11675F34B81B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lswxxKe-NHg&list=PL60EC11675F34B81B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRjfwgWANQM&list=PL60EC11675F34B81B

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