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At the very, very, very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very end of the day, what are your stakes at owning real hardware? When it comes to retro.

>> No.11112880

owning retro consoles is high stakes around 11:59.59 pm. pc gaming and modern systems is safe though

>> No.11112912

i have a near complete collection of real hardware in cardboard boxes and play roms on my phone

>> No.11112921

It's cool but not necessary as long as you have a computer

>> No.11112934

I got a saturn and a bunch of scratched discs

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>>11112870
Here's the biggest blackpill that nobody wants to hear: Getting your games WATA graded is the best value you'll get out of it.
>nooo in 50 years my collection will go from $1000 to $10000 i have to play with them
Or: Buy a flashcart/ODE, play the exact same game, get $300K right now, and not caring about potential disaster sending your games to $0.

>> No.11112956

>>11112870
I only have a genesis with 5 loose carts and an everdrive and I like it just for the fuck of it.
I emulate everything else on PC

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>>11112948
i already dumped everything after runahead was announced, mfw hardwarefags are paying more rent and property tax to hold it than its worth on ebay

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>>11112870
Don't know, don't care. I play on both real hardware and emulation. Let's say my Twin Famicom dies, is beyond repair, and it becomes hard to get one at a fair price I'll just emulate NES games.

>> No.11113073

Sold all my games ages ago to a store, wish I'd held out until the retro boom so I could milk money out of autistic original hardware fags with OCD >>11108640

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>>11112870
I just use my streaming stick I bought years ago. Still own all of my childhood games and consoles

>> No.11113628

ESL here, what does stakes mean in this context?

>> No.11113636

>>11112870
I don't even think about this shit. I've had the worthwhile consoles forever and have flashcarts or ode's in them. I play games.

>> No.11113637

i dont have any anymore and i dont regret getting rid of it. i can easily emulate everything i want to play. it would be cool to have some arcade machines but its not something im ever going to actually pursue

>> No.11113641

I gave away all of my 15-20 consoles (inc cd-i and game gear) and 500+ games several years ago (except the snes) and don't really regret it. I could've made some cash but it's whatever, I only sold things that were over $100.
I emulate everything now, even SNES when I have my original one right here. It's nice not having an entire closet filled with consoles and wires when I emulate anyway. Extra: I'm into upscales not crts or filters.

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>>11113628
"high steaks" is a reference to very expensive meat

>> No.11113693

I honestly wouldn't even bother playing old games if I didn't have the original hardware.

>> No.11113703

>play on original hardware
>enjoy and finish games
>play on emulator
>drop game after 20 minutes
I don't know why this happens but I never stick to games unless I'm sat there with the actual system in front of me.

>> No.11113709

>>11113703
You are able to perceive the SOUL

>> No.11115070

>>11113628
I'm a native English speaker and even I have no idea what he means.

>> No.11115587

honestly If I still had the old hardware I'd pop in a cartridge

>> No.11115617

>>11112870
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>>11112870
I just emulate everything at this point, it's not an authentic experience, but it's close enough... just using CRT shaders and accurate, or at least some appropriate, controllers is good enough for me, I love having full ROMS sets to play, but I'll admit I feel overwhelmed sometimes like some here do, what helps is having the set backed up, but only extracting a few ROMs at a time into my folders.

It works, and has it's own sort of SOVL to it.

>> No.11117114

>>11112870
At the end of the day nothing you own matters.

>> No.11117117

I'm old/lucky/smart enough to have started my retro collection back when it was affordable and feasible. We're talking over 25 years ago. But I was able to get everything I actually cared to play during that time.
Around a decade ago I saw prices of NES, SNES and Genesis games start to skyrocket. I guess my day the music died moment was my local game shop selling loose copies of SMB 3 for 30 bucks. I bought a couple FPGA consoles and Everdrives and called it a day on collecting.
I think there's lots of intangible reasons to play physical but given the cost of it all now, I don't blame anyone for emulating and I emulate plenty myself nowadays. Emutards (and pirates in general) have this huffy entitlement that rubs me the wrong way though.

>> No.11117128

>>11117117
>Emutards (and pirates in general) have this huffy entitlement that rubs me the wrong way though.
Yeah and it's sour grapes as fuck.
Yeah I can emulate too, anyone can, but playing on real hard, especially with your own childhood collection, feels great.

>> No.11117145

>>11117128
Right. Also this attitude >>11117114 irks me.
Collecting games was my hobby, I just didn't snipe shit on ebay. I have tons of great memories scouring garage sales, and toy stores, reading the Funco price list like it was the WSJ, taking a gamble on a game I'd never heard of and finding out it was pretty good actually, cleaning and fixing old stuff, my first online community I was a part of was other NES enthusiasts that I'd trade stories with. I get that it's not as practical nowadays to collect like this but I don't know how "downloading 8 gorillion ROMS off a torrent" is better.

>> No.11117154

>>11112870
1. it can't be taken away from me. rom sites and emulators are on a razors edge legally and IP law could easily change such that the stuff is no longer available for distribution

2. it's just easier to focus on games on a console. the computer is filled with shit that is designed to distract me. Just having a gaming box without internet connectivity or a browser or w/e lets me just relax without distractions.

>> No.11117202

>>11117145
I'm not saying don't enjoy collecting things, sure why not?
Just know it's the things that are immaterial that are far more important in your life, which is finite and you don't know when it's going to end.

>> No.11117209

>>11112870
I play on original consoles cuz I like to play with the original consoles

>> No.11117337

>>11112870
I've mostly given up after buying 1 too many PS2 and OG Xbox games that just don't fucking work anymore. Rather just buy a remaster or a collection where at least I know I'll be able to play the game.

>> No.11117410

>>11117128
>old childhood collection
og hardware is for babies, when you grow up you have to play emulators

>> No.11118010

>>11117410
lol

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>>11117114
I believe that things "mattering" in the "grand scheme of things" is ridiculous because... that grand scheme of things itself doesn't matter I guess... you see, as long as something matters for YOU, and the only perception you'll have of reality is your own subjective one, then it does matter, that's the only requirement. Of course other people's takes are important, just... less.

I hope everyone here can have fun in their own ways... we all deserve it at the end of the day.

>> No.11118032

>>11117337
This. I've bought a fuckload of Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox games over the years just for the consoles to stop reading discs and/or there being easy solutions to load the games on real hardware with basically no drawbacks. With how expensive retro stuff (even newer stuff like those consoles) has gotten, there's very little point in wasting the money and space anymore. The only interesting things to do with collecting at this point is tool around with random peripherals or buy games that I genuinely want a hard copy of for nostalgia purposes.

>> No.11118049

>>11112870
I thought it was really cool to own them then I had allergy problems and decided that digital is just easier to deal with.

Input delay hurts me.

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>>11112870
I just play on my phone now.
I'm looking into getting a foldable soon.

>> No.11118775

>>11118606
I can't think of a worse way to play video games, especially retro ones.

>> No.11118808

>>11112870
The shelf space to have a lot of systems connected to a single screen can be a bit of a chore. At some point the TV doesn't have enough connectors.

>> No.11118823

I own the consoles. I own a good CRT tv, multiple actually. I still choose to emulate to a CRT monitor using an old GPU and simply apply an interlacing filter for the scanlines. Side by side next to a CRT tv, it just looks like sharper TV.

People have made collecting their personality, and since I didn't have to run around buying the games and already had them and the consoles, I have no attachment to money spent and don't have to defend it as better.

The reason you drop emulated games and not physical is just sunk cost. If you don't like it, you won't finish it when it's free. You don't have to finish games. No one is following your backloggd and letterboxd accounts.

>> No.11118835

>>11112870
Sometimes emulation doesn't satisfy.
Good enough for most consoles with controller adapters. I need my physical Saturn and Dreamcast and Game Boy tho.

>> No.11119384

>>11113000
That's a weird way to say you don't own a house.

>> No.11119401

>>11118823
>just sunk cost.
This is factually not true, considering the majority into it pre 2010 were getting these games for barely anything or free. It's the watafags and speculators who are in deep at this point. 10 bucks for a complete nes with a bunch of games in 2003, is not exactly a "sunk cost".

>> No.11119402

>>11112870
The only times when emulation is useful for me is when I want to play a game locked on some platform with almost no games and a high price tag like the 32X or NGPC.
Otherwise when I play a game in emulation, most of the time I just drop it after the first level or so. If I want to do more than just see what a game is like, I'm playing it on real hardware (though I will use a flashcard or burnt discs if necessary).

>> No.11119406

I am buying a 2 player Daytona USA machine and a 2nd Neo Geo cab this coming month, so idk wtf you are talking about op.

>> No.11119426

>>11119401
>10 bucks for a complete nes with a bunch of games in 2003, is not exactly a "sunk cost".
You'd be surprised at how low the threshold is for sunk cost fallacy to take effect. I've found myself sinking hours and hours into games I bought for $5 while abandoning roms I downloaded for free 15-30 minutes in.

>> No.11119435

I play on emulators or flashcarts mainly, but I like having a backup in case computers and internet fail, and because they have sentimental or historic value. For example, I bought Battletoads because it's funny to have it. I also like being able to play things on the real hardware because you have no savestates and the intended experience. With PC games it's mostly the nostalgic value. I have the talkie version of Loom on CD because it was my dad's.
I don't think I ever want my collection to be appraised, because I don't have them solely for the value.

>> No.11120015

>>11112870
I'm fine with emulating but in a perfect world I'd use the original console with the games being loaded off of a drive

>> No.11120124

>>11112870
i love to physically own something when possible but i don't care that much. most things aren't worth the price even if i'm an enthusiast about something these days due to the market being completely taken over by actual thieves.

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>>11118775
Why? I know it's not the best one for most, but I don't see how it's the worst either... you get this big screen in a good aspect ratio, often of a high quality depending on your smartphone or tablet, and a wide range or controllers to choose from, a few symmetrical, most asymmetrical, some small and others big, if one thing breaks you still have the other one, unlike a dedicated handheld does.

It's not perfect, but has a ton of qualities, and if you're on Android, you have RetroArch and a ton of emulators to use even for higher end consoles like PS2 and Game Cube that run decent enough.

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>>11112870
I still own my original SMS, NES, SNES, GEN, TG16-CD, DC, Xbox, Wii, IBM Thinkpad 486 DX4, and Dell P166.

t. pepsi generation overlord

>> No.11120724

If I didn't have a Ps2 plugged into a cute little 13-inch CRT and FF7 on disc, my wife never would have played it. On the other hand, if I only had dualshock 2 for a controller she wouldn't have played it either (uses wireless with a bluetooth adapter). So it's a balance.

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>> No.11122332

>>11113703
It's just ADHD, anon.

>> No.11122982

>>11120730
I don't see what's so bad about it... there's a lot of good to this setup.

>> No.11123179

>>11122982
it's 4:3, that's about it. too big, switch stick location/ugly ergos, average tablet is slow and hot
maybe mount an actual controller behind the tablet idk

>> No.11123186

I don't really care about it.

>> No.11125076

>>11119384
neither do you, youre just renting it from the government. or do you think property taxes are optional?