/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.11003853]

How come they built up such an obsessive fanbase? Was it a stroke of marketing genius?

[Anonymous No.11003857]

>>11003853
They make polished, accessible games for kids.

[Anonymous No.11003862]

>>11003857
Not to mention having high standards of quality.

[Anonymous No.11003865]

>>11003853
Gamers generally have good will towards console manufacturers that were exclusively video game companies (Nintendo, Sega, Atari).

By comparison, the console manufacturers which were outsiders (Sony and Microsoft) have always been viewed with suspicion. It doesn't help that they can't resist fucking up the industry with their terrible, evil business practices.

It just so happens that Nintendo is the one and only games-only console manufacturer still standing.

[Anonymous No.11003871]

>>11003865
Interesting self-contradiction.

[Anonymous No.11003875]

>>11003871
???

[Anonymous No.11003876]

>>11003875
Was it deliberate or accidental?

[Anonymous No.11003884]

>>11003865
Nintendo started out in the business of playing cards and fuckshacks

[Anonymous No.11003892]

>>11003884
Doesn't matter. Once they started producing video game products they became exclusively a games company. Whereas PS and Xbox have always been merely side-hustles at best for Sony and MS respectively.

[Anonymous No.11003896]

Early brainwashing

[Anonymous No.11003897]

>>11003853
Vertical integration. You can buy a Nintendo console, only ever buy Nintendo-published (or even just Nintendo-developed) games for it, and get a fairly well-rounded library (in terms of genre selection) with no need to ever expand your horizons if you're a kid, autist or casual who isn't interested in playing anything outside of the Nintendo brand.

[Anonymous No.11003906]

>>11003857
This
>>11003857
And this

As much as it kills people to admit Nintendo makes solid games and mostly solid consoles. They have an autistically devoted fanbase because of this. That's not to say Nintendo is perfect, far from it. But if you look at them purely for their software and hardware they're great.

[Anonymous No.11003913]

>>11003853
They made good games for decades

[Anonymous No.11003918]

>>11003897
I see lots of nintendo fans complain like "ugh we haven't had a new ____ game in so long!!!" and I just wonder, do they ever play non-nintendo titles? People constantly talk about f-zero but I don't see anyone discussing the old wipeout games even though they're just as good. There are some fantastic zelda clones too which nobody plays. I think many people won't play shit unless it has a nintendo logo on the front

[Anonymous No.11003921]

>>11003918
It's a valid argument nowadays with the death of AA development, if you want something like a new F-Zero or 2D Zelda your options are either waiting for Nintendo to make one and praying to god they don't do something stupid like making it a FOMO online game, or relying on 1-to-5-man indie teams who tend to fall into their own design pitfalls and won't match the quality of a commercial release from the heyday of AA.

[Anonymous No.11003925]

>>11003918
>People constantly talk about f-zero but I don't see anyone discussing the old wipeout games even though they're just as good.
Wipeout simply doesn't have any of the charm, style, or beloved characters like F-Zero does.

It's like telling someone who misses Banjo to play Yooka Laylee or some shit.

[Anonymous No.11003928]

>>11003918
>There are some fantastic zelda clones too which nobody plays
Most of those are either not very good, or miss the mark to some degree. Crusader of Centy's animal companions are a novel idea on paper but generally you want to stick with one or two combos, slashing the sword is ultimately useless too, so you'll be throwing it all the time.
Alundra is gorgeous and has a great soundtrack, but it doesn't make the most of its items and shits the bed at the final dungeon. Golden Axe warrior suffers from only having one button for items/weapons so you're gonna be fucking about with menus a lot.

Gunparu is good though, I like that one. Neutopia 1 is excellent too, though the second one has fucked up knockback behavior for enemies and really killed the combat for me. Beyond Oasis is great, that one's the real standout for me.

[Anonymous No.11003938]

>>11003925
Wipeout is fucking great you dork

[Anonymous No.11003940]

>>11003853
Nintendo's quality control is insane, and I say this as a massive Segafag. Even if you don't like a particular game, they're all spit-shined, and it's been that way since the 80s and never stopped. If you were a parent you could buy comfortably without ever reading reviews. Is the new Mario good? Maybe, maybe not, but I can guarantee it isn't bad.

[Anonymous No.11003959]

>>11003865
>It doesn't help that they (Sony and Microsoft) can't resist fucking up the industry with their terrible, evil business practices
Yes, these days Sony and Microsoft are run by actual retards, but if anything, Nintendo's track record shows that they have been the most detrimental entity in the video game industry.
>threatening lawsuits to cease and desist fan projects
>actively lobbying governments to make it so that the products you buy can't be used in a way they deem is unfit
>making publishers sign exclusivity agreements in the NES and SNES days to punish multi-platform releases
>selling you ROMs they downloaded off romsites they shut down
>the Mario 3D all-stars release was a goddamn travesty
>no measures at all to fight against/discourage scalping

At the end of the day, Nintendo fans are fucking cult members.

[Anonymous No.11003967]

>>11003959
Not one of these things you listed is as bad as Microsoft who:
>introduced paid online
>pushed the industry away from soulful games and towards dudebro, brown-and-bloom, multiplayer shooter bullshit
>tried to force an always-online console when the xbone was unveiled
>tried to sell the xbone as a "multimedia device" that sidelined games
>launched gamepass to try and fuck up gaming in the same way spotify/netflix ruined music/TV respectively
>invested heavily in GAAS shit
>blatantly want to force digital-only consoles

[Anonymous No.11003989]

>>11003853
They make safe games, rarely take risks and appeal to kids and manchildren who are easy to please

[Anonymous No.11003995]

>>11003989
>motion controls and cartridge based games arent risks
>the virtual boy wasnt a risk

[Anonymous No.11004001]

>>11003865
Nintendo is evil as hell they just make games that kids love to play.

[Anonymous No.11004049]

>>11003853
Nintendo is the Apple of video games.

[Anonymous No.11004119]

>>11003853
They marketed heavily to boomers, who ended up calling every video game console a "nintendo"

[Anonymous No.11004120]

>>11003853
My brain is completely nintendo wired. Everything I do, everything I feel has a nintendo soundtrack. Thats what you get when your brothers play gameboy next to your crib, when youve been bombarded since your early childhood with the branch. The soundtrack even helps me to settle in at new places/appartments and stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.11004140]

>>11004120
What song do you hear when you're taking a shit?

[Anonymous No.11004152]

>>11003995
>rarely means never

[Anonymous No.11004159]

>>11004140
Im summing the adventures of bayou billie.

[Anonymous No.11004167]

>>11004159
*humming

[Anonymous No.11004174]

>>11004140
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HNUXj8lBS0

>ass liquid alert

[Anonymous No.11004464]

>>11003853
>target kids when very young
>turn those kids autistic through playing too many video games
>kids grow up into autistic adults, still play nintendo

its child abuse and its a brilliant strategy.
if only nintendies could see that Nintendo actually destroyed their adult lives.

[Anonymous No.11004493]

>>11003959
>>selling you ROMs they downloaded off romsites they shut down
To this day, I'm surprised this rumor STILL gets spewed around despite the explanation on their NES ROMs being known for 16 years.
Kawase Tomohiro, one of the developers of one of the earliest NES emulators, named iNES, including its dumping tools, got hired by Nintendo. The iNES developer software he created back in the 90s creates a header on the NES ROM header. Thus the "iNES" string on the CoolROM and Nintendo versions, however the CoolROM and Virtual Console ROMs are not 100% the same with some strings different, as well as a different dump date.
Kawase created the NES emulators that run on Animal Crossing, Wii and Wii U virtual consoles based on his iNES work.

[Anonymous No.11004502]

>>11003938
There's some people too autistically attached to the characters.
I can't, for the life of mine, get anyone in the Mega Man fandom to check out Astroboy, Casshern (OG or Sins) or Hakkaider despite being key inspirations behind Classic Mega Man, Mega Man X and Mega Man Zero respectively, purely because its not Rock, X or Zero. The lack of the actual characters becomes a no-sell.

[Anonymous No.11004509]

>>11004502
Casshern may have interesting visuals but it's pretentious and a slog to actually watch.

[Anonymous No.11004513]

>>11004509
I don't know, I really enjoyed it but it might also be because its script was meant to be a Saint Seiya movie and I also love Saint Seiya.
What about the original? Is that more your speed? More boss of the week and travelling seeking Braiking Boss' lair.

[Anonymous No.11004514]

Is this the salty auster thread?

[Anonymous No.11004616]

>>11003857
All games are for kids. You fucking retard faggot.

[Anonymous No.11004654]

>>11004616
Yeah, I sure love to play some of that PC-98 kidcore with my 5yo brother

[Anonymous No.11004680]

>>11003862
Yeah, super high standards....

[Anonymous No.11004685]

>>11003995
>cashing into VR hype and making cheap easy to market gimmicks
>risks

[Anonymous No.11004757]

it is really dreadful I love nintendo, I love nintendo games, but their fans are worse than harrypotter fans.

I even miss when nintendo fans talked about nintendo games not made by nintendo. It will be enough for them to talk about castlevania, megaman, streetfigther II on supernes.
Hell, I even miss when they talked about nes and supernes.

When was the last time they talked about donkey kong country saga, but about it levels, it music , its design (no about comparing DK games)?

I just wish for BETTER nintendo fans, step up you game.

[Anonymous No.11004762]

Looking back, they're fucking overrated. Games are good and even great, but they're kind of there

[Anonymous No.11004765]

>>11004757
gamecube was peak nintendo

[Anonymous No.11004769]

>>11003918
>There are some fantastic zelda clones too which nobody plays.
Lol

I'm sorry, but they absolutely aren't as good. I've played so many of the "DUDE this is actually as good as Zelda" games to know they're mostly trash. BG&E is the ONLY one to honestly compare, and even that is obviously horribly cut down compared to what it was supposed to be.

Hardline Nintendo fans are right. They have standards. Nintendo really are the best and people who don't get this are basically idiots. I say this, not because I'm ignorant, but because I grew up with Sega and Playstation as my main consoles and it was always like "finally coming up for air" to play the best Nintendo games and experience how refined they were in comparison to even the best put together Sony/Sega/PC games.

[Anonymous No.11004786]

>>11004769
Most nintendo games are mediocre isn't it funny that like all nintendo fans started criticizing every zelda game after BOTW ? It's almost as if they didn't like those games that much after all.

[Anonymous No.11004794]

>>11003853
They kept making kiddie games with fun gameplay that an adult can enjoy. Hence, the permachild LGBT freaks spend the entirety of their welfare and “disability” money on Nintendo products. It’s genius, really.

[Anonymous No.11004801]

>>11004765
Have you ever played NES, supernes, gameboy and gba games ever?

[Anonymous No.11004804]

>>11004680
Nintendo did not design or manufacture the Power Glove.

[Anonymous No.11004836]

>>11003853
Always amusing how anything Nintendo can make so many fanboys seethe like there's no tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.11004843]

>>11004616
Most games are for teens and up.

[Anonymous No.11004849]

>>11003853
vaccine injuries

[Anonymous No.11004861]

>>11003853
It's been making games for a decade, it's obvious it would get a fanbase. What, you're telling me the PS has NO fanbase?
If that's the case, now *that's* the real mystery. We must ask, how tf did PS make games for a decade without getting any fans?

[Anonymous No.11004881]

>>11004804
And they put their name on it since it fulfilled their "high standards of quality"

[Anonymous No.11004882]

nintendo bad
sony good
how can we save the saturn
give me likes

[Anonymous No.11004886]

>>11004843
That's how they're rated because of legal requirements, but 90% of their players are still kids.

[Anonymous No.11004919]

>>11004886
Yeah, like 10+ year olds.
Mario games entrance to any kid old enough to hold a controller, while still appealing to the preteen snd early teen audiences reasonably well.
I have a 4 year old and a 7 year old. The 4 loves cars, he'd have fun with Gran Turismo, but the older one would be bored. Both of them love Mario Kart though.

[Anonymous No.11004924]

>>11003853
1983 US vidya crash made people really hate American videogame hardware companies.

[Anonymous No.11004939]

>>11004493
>(s)he never read VirtualConsole ROMs to find unremoved decades-old fan translation credits in them
Zoom-zoom!

[Anonymous No.11004952]

>>11003853
What I want to know is why they have such obsessive haters?

[Anonynous No.11004990]

>>11003884
>Nintendo started out with FuckShacks.
HUH???
Tell me more. I knew about the cards

[Anonynous No.11004998]

>>11003925
>It's like telling someone who misses Banjo to play Yooka Laylee or some shit.
Its already getting an HD re release called Yooka Replayee.

[Anonynous No.11005001]

>>11003967
I need a redpill on how spotify/netflix ruined music/TV respectively

[Anonymous No.11005008]

>>11003938
Wipeout plays nothing like F-Zero
Have you even played either of them?

[Anonymous No.11005009]

>>11004952
True, at this point it's just hating video games. It's literally adopting the "/v/ hates video games" meme and changing it to "/vr/ hates retro games". At best for half the replies they might pretend they're hating the games by this company specifically, but if people suck for merely playing games (by this company), what does that say for people who play others? Why is someone who hates video game players on /vr/? It's asinine.

[Anonymous No.11005015]

>>11004952
Manchildren that think they are the Sony Playstation or the Sega Genesis. When Nintendo does well they see it as an affront to themselves because they are their favorite game consoles and they are embedded in an endless marketing war. Its a developmental problem.

[Anonynous No.11005016]

>>11004049
>Nintendo is the Apple of video games.
Its funny because growing up, I considered them the Windows and Sega the Apple.

Wintendo:
Simple utilitarian box.
Simple utilitarian rectangle controller.
Countless great games for it.

Sega/Apple:
"Sexy" console shape
"Sexy" controller that has the pause/rightclick button is needlessly difficult to access. (Master system had pause button ON THE CONSOLE, rather than the controller. You CAN right click with 3rd party mouse or "commandclick" on apple but its stupid.
The 16bit Sonic trilogy is much more beautiful than the 8bit Mario trilogy, but not actually much more fun to play, especially on a second playthrough.
OSX is much more beautiful than WinXP, but why can't I maximize a window?

I could probably think up other comparisons but that's all I got for now.

[Anonynous No.11005020]

>>11004464
>if only nintendies could see that Nintendo actually destroyed their adult lives.
I do, but the blame really belongs on our parents.

[Anonymous No.11005023]

>>11003853
They make good games.

[Anonynous No.11005026]

>>11004882
>nintendo bad
>sony good
>how can we save the saturn
>give me likes
Updoot

[Anonymous No.11005030]

>>11004174
sounds a lot like the bass from Just Dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbD_kBJc_gI

[Anonymous No.11005040]

>>11005020
Most kids handle it fine. The blame belongs on your genetics. So your parents are to blame, but not the parenting.

[Anonymous No.11005047]

>>11004616
Chess, poker, football, d&d?

[Anonymous No.11005049]

>>11003853
>tendies are the obsessed fanbase
>so obsessed that every other Nintendo console is a sales disaster
>meanwhile Sony can release consoles without games and still break sales records
I’ll never understand how snyggers can be so mind fucked in their projections.
T originally a Sega queer

[Anonymous No.11005135]

>>11003967
Microsoft is still paying for the Xbone reveal. They massively miscalculated peoples' willingness and ability to welcome an always-online console doubled as a home theater PC, at a time when affordable high speed internet wasn't as available.
>launched gamepass to try and fuck up gaming in the same way spotify/netflix ruined music/TV respectively
it's probably the single good thing they've done to get people playing their games. Way more consumers are trying out gamepass before buying a SeX/SeS
>>11005001
it's ok for consumers, as long as they offer shit people actually want, not so good for creators. They pay a flat rate, offer fuck all for residuals, and can dump content when it's time to repay for the licenses.

[Anonymous No.11005160]

>>11004757
>I even miss when nintendo fans talked about nintendo games not made by nintendo. It will be enough for them to talk about castlevania, megaman, streetfigther II on supernes.
>Hell, I even miss when they talked about nes and supernes.
Userbase displacement, the old fans you speak of moved on with their lives and probably don't even play videogames anymore.
So now we're stuck with zoomers who grew up with the Wii.

[Anonymous No.11005283]

>>11003918
>old wipeout games even though they're just as good. There are some fantastic zelda clones too which nobody plays. I think many people won't play shit unless it has a nintendo logo on the front
people always equate F-zero with wipeout when they couldn't be more different.
Wipeout is slow and clunky as shit.
F-zero is fast and responsive.
they are not in the same ballpark, it just happens that nintendo made the better game, if sony had F-zero instead I'd still play it regardless.

[Anonymous No.11005301]

>>11005283
What does the reaction image mean?

[Anonymous No.11005765]

>>11005049
You dropped your dilator, miss