/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10978645]

ITT: Post actual good remakes.

[Anonymous No.10978648]

>>10978645
Why did you post the worst version of FF1?

[Anonymous No.10978665]

>>10978648
You mean the best.

[Anonymous No.10978671]

>>10978648

find rope

[Anonymous No.10978739]

Trials of Mana is a remake I can honestly say is better than the OG version.

[Anonymous No.10978751]

>>10978739
What part of old > new do you not understand?

[Anonymous No.10978754]

>>10978645
that's not good remake, in runs worse than the WonderSwan Color originals, a tacked on CGI cutscenes

[Anonymous No.10978969]

[Anonymous No.10978985]

>>10978754
are people just being contrarian?
i had the nes cart of FF as a kid
i never beat it but wanted to revisit using the psx discs

they suck balls? why?

[Anonymous No.10979007]

>>10978671
Find Jesus.

[Anonymous No.10979483]

>>10978645
>attacks no longer whiff if the target was already defeated
dumbed down babyshit remake

[Anonymous No.10979491]

>>10979483
You're already playing a glorified VN with menu based gameplay, don't act like you're at a Quake 3 tournament.

[Anonymous No.10979831]

>>10978985
visually it's a bit different from the wonderswan version because it's a little stretched out but that's about it really, very minut load times compared to the other ps1 ports. that said, ff2 origins forces you to play in easy mode for some reason, you unlock normal mode though. dunno why that's the case when it's not in 1 but from what i could tell the differences weren't too substantial, so yeah go play origins it's fine.

[Anonymous No.10979862]

>>10979831
I don't believe there is any difference between easy mode and normal other than the fact that in normal mode you can't run, and auto-targetting is turned off. Both of these things can also be toggled off in easy mode. It's just some kind of "HOW THE DEVS INTENDED IT" forced on (You)

[Anonymous No.10979885]

>>10979483
Go to the settings menu retard.

[Anonymous No.10979892]

>>10978645
I get told not to play this version a lot, but I'm definitely not playing the NES version, and the Pixel Remaster I'm iffy on.
Is it worth playing through? The main complaints I hear is that it lags, like other SNES games on PSX.
I've seen people say it adds roughly a minute to load times which is like whatever but builds up to 1 to 2 hours over the course of a playthrough, seems like a steep time investment to just watch load screens.
Never played FF1 but I really want to and I'm conflicted on which version to play.

[Anonymous No.10979919]

>>10979892
Gameplay wise PSX versions of 1 and 2 are the most faithful to the NES versions + tons of bugfixes. They also sound great, look great, and have some extra cutscenes that are pretty cool (especially 2).

Literally the only differences in gameplay are things you can turn off if you want, and in 2 IIRC you have a slightly bigger inventory. However the inventory in the OG was really small and by the end of the game it's half full with key items that have become useless that you can't get rid of it, so having it a bit bigger is really a godsend.

I still prefer the NES versions myself because I'm a massive NESfag but the PSX versions are great and one of the few remakes ever made I could recommend to play over the originals >>10976416

[Anonymous No.10979948]

>>10978645
DQ3 SFC, DQ4 PS1/DS, DQ5 PS2/DS. Pretty good track record overall until the 3DS era.
>>10978739
It's fun to play but the cutscenes being low-budget dogshit really bring it down.

[Anonymous No.10979952]

>>10979919
alright well, I feel a little more confident playing this over the pixel remaster...
but what about the lag?

[Anonymous No.10980061]

>>10979885
It has the option? I looked it up but the gameplay footage I saw didn't whiff and I didn't find anything about it being toggleable. Not like it's a total dealbreaker without that but I do like that extra bit planning it requires of you. Guess I'll check it out, then.

[Anonymous No.10980102]

>>10979892
>but I'm definitely not playing the NES version
it is literally fine dude. the internet has way overblown its quirks. im playing through every ff for the first time ever and just finished 1 on the nes, and I legitimately don’t know what most of these fools are complaining about.

[Anonymous No.10980106]

[Anonymous No.10980110]

>>10978969
Can't say it's a good remake when it's missing characters and maps. I will say, however, that the shorter duration of book 1 allows you a lot of freedom in how you build your team, and that's a plus, in my opinion.

Mystery of the Emblem in general is peak classic FE formula. Shame the orb fragment system basically only appears here, it also allowed you to make any shitter viable.

[Anonymous No.10980130]

>>10980102
While it's certainly not my favorite version I think it's a perfectly fine way to play, but if you're used to the conveniences of later ports I can see not liking it

[Anonymous No.10980886]

>>10980106

fuck no

[Anonymous No.10981245]

>>10980106
this is probably the WORST examples
>forced to make it by nintendo panic at the horrible hoenn region/shit sales
>devs didnt want to make it
clearly shows
soulless
slogfest
shittier
ASS!

[Anonymous No.10981798]

>>10980106
Based and correct.

[Anonymous No.10981943]

>>10979892
If you don't want to play the NES just don't play the game. The remakes completely mangle the original design, they're just FF1 skinned generic jrpgs, not Final Fantasy anymore.

[Anonymous No.10981948]

>>10978645

[Anonymous No.10982158]

>>10981943
Is there any hacks of the NES FFI that just fixes the bugs and doesn't change anything else at all?

[Anonymous No.10982179]

>>10981943
What changes in the PSX version specifically do you disagree with?
I'm looking at the list of changes and it just reads like a list of bugfixes.

[Anonymous No.10982198]

>>10978969
Oh hey it's Marth from super smash bros

[Anonymous No.10982261]

>>10978739
The original is one of the best examples of 16-bit artwork, the remake is cel shaded screen vomit. The original has a surround mixed OST, the remake only has stereo.

I’ll go with the OG.

[Anonymous No.10982265]

>>10979892
I played it on emulator and fast-forward through all loading. Modern solutions.

[Anonymous No.10982431]

>>10980061
It does.

[Anonymous No.10982946]

>>10981943
I hear it's pretty faithful, seems like the only people say it's not is people on here.

[Anonymous No.10982981]

>>10978645
>good remakes.
Subhumans like you need to be shot in the head
Disgusting vermin

[Anonymous No.10983736]

>>10982981
Seethe

[Anonymous No.10983750]

>>10978739
Yikes I thought retardation of this degree only existed on /v/

[Anonymous No.10984479]

>>10983750
Rent free

[Anonymous No.10984482]

>>10980106
There are multiple videos out there explaining why these games suck ass. It's basically all because of how much they gatekeep certain Pokemon. The engine the game uses is really good though, which is why you should play romhacks and never the actual FR/LG game

[Anonymous No.10984490]

There's basically
A Realm Reborn: FFXIV
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir

And that might be it. At least when it comes to relatively big well known games

[Anonymous No.10984497]

>>10984490
Oh and I guess FF1 and FF2. Those NES games are rough, I don't get the NES FF defense force.
Probably DQ on NES, too, but I don't know jack shit about those games

[Anonymous No.10984507]

Another one you could make a case for is Soulcalibur on the Dreamcast. But idk if I'd count that, it does have remade graphics and more modes, but... it's just a revision

[Anonymous No.10984510]

>>10984507
At the same time I can't really call Odin Sphere Leifthrasir a remake and then try to say Soulcalibur on DC isn't.
So ok, it's just A Realm Reborn and I guess FF1 and FF2.
Can you tell I made 4 samefag posts in a row?

[Anonymous No.10984547]

>>10984479
>say something dumb
>get called dumb
>r-rent free!
I miss when words used to mean things.

[Anonymous No.10984550]

>>10984507
Seethe

[Anonymous No.10984552]

>>10984550
Grow up, kid

[Anonymous No.10984591]

>>10984547
Cope

[Anonymous No.10984714]

>>10980106
The biggest problems with this are move availability and balance changes.

By being forced to keep the TM list from RSE, the player loses out on certain moves like Bide and Water Gun. Which may not sound horrendous, but those TMs were clearly thought out and placed at an ideal point in the game. You have a reason to use them for their immediate utility, and won't feel fucked over when you eventually replace whatever member you taught them to. They're perfect introductions to the TM system.
Some TMs were thankfully carried over as Move Tutors, but often have no logic behind their availability (Mega Kick and Rock Throw being obvious examples). And some like Explosion and the OHKO moves don't show up at all.

Balance-wise, things get worse. The game wasn't designed with Dark and Steel types in mind, so their inclusion fucks things up in strange ways, like Magneton being made astronomically better by having newound resistances and defense, and Bite being Dark absolutely demolishing Pokemon Tower and Saffron Gym thanks to it's fairly liberal distribution when it was Normal.
Abilities take their own toll, with examples like Levitate making Weezing immune to its most common weakness, and Flash Fire negating any threat from Blaine if you bother catching just about any Fire type (Water Absorb is suspect too, but less immediately abusable due to when you get access).
There are also certain Pokemon that just don't have a place anymore due to changes in the battle system. Critical hits being tied to Speed made members like Persian invaluable, but without that it's just another middling Normal type. Tauros similarly is not nearly as useful as it was, and now hardly justifies its scarcity. And Bug as a whole was made far worse by losing it's effectiveness against Poison, it has next to no utility.

tl;dr
RG was balanced around its own systems, and almost no attempt was made to rebalance around the vastly different systems of the remake.

[Anonymous No.10984730]

>>10984591
See?

[Anonymous No.10984743]

>>10984730
Cringe

[Anonymous No.10984751]

>>10984743
Sneed.

[Anonymous No.10985017]

>>10979007
find sex