/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10974183]

>buy picrel because i wanted a 3 button controller to play streets of rage and it was that but with more buttons
>test it on street fighter
>can pull off combos easily and consistently compared to a x360/ps3 controller
>borderlike feels like im cheating using it
saturnbros... you were right. this gotta be the best fighting game controller i've ever seen. if only it had a select button. oh, and since thats just a cheap giveaway licensed version, i wonder how good a SLS would be

[Anonymous No.10974276]

>>10974183
you should have bought a real saturn controller and a raphnet usb adapter instead.

[Anonymous No.10974286]

I don't understand why everone's so into the Saturn dpad.
The reverse dpad on 3-button Genesis controllers is way better.

[Anonymous No.10974307]

The purple one for ps2 is probably the most I've paid for some autistic video game non-console thing

[Anonymous No.10974315]

>>10974183
See if you can get Saturn running on your PC. This is unironically how I got into Saturn emulation (albeit I got the Retro-Bit one)

>>10974286
Idk about the d-pad but I do prefer the 3-button and SEGA CD stuff in general

[Anonymous No.10974334]

I have the retro-bit Saturn controller and wheel it's just alright. I'm assuming the real thing is much better but little disappointed and prefer my 8bitdo Genesis 6 button to it

[Anonymous No.10974336]

>>10974334
*feel
Disregard my retardation please

[Anonymous No.10974374]

>>10974286
isnt it the exact same?

[Anonymous No.10974392]

>>10974374
8bitdo is a bit different, like a hybrid of the two

[Anonymous No.10974421]

>>10974183
It's just a good controller design. I had a chink USB bootleg and moved to retrobit after that broke down, it was a solid experience every time.

[Anonymous No.10974446]

>>10974183
Unless you're using a keyboard or hitbox you're nowhere near cheating. No one who plays fighting games more than very casually uses either a standard MS or PS pad.

[Anonymous No.10974453]

>>10974446
Watch any Tekken/SF/anime event and you will see numerous black people in the top 64 with PS4/5 controllers. Literally what are you talking about

[Anonymous No.10974547]

>>10974374
Saturn pad is pretty the same as the Genesis 6-button afaik, meanwhile the Genesis 3-button or at least most variants of it have a reverse dpad.
Reverse in that it's literally on the wrong side of the PCB. I don't know if it's a patent issue or what since the wireless 3-button by the same manufacturer have just a regular dpad in them as do both official Sega wired and wireless 6-buttons.

[Anonymous No.10974556]

>>10974547
And of course I forgot the picture.
Pic related is the rear side. The disc you see here has a shaft that connects it directly to the dpad on the top, so you push left on the dpad pad and it actually hits the button on the right etc.
Also note the grease. If you've ever noticed a bad feeling 3-button pad it might have dried grease in it.

[Anonymous No.10974559]

>>10974556
Abominable

[Anonymous No.10974608]

>>10974453
nta What the fuck did you think "PS pad" meant ya fuckin illiterate

[Anonymous No.10974626]

>>10974334
The real Saturn controllers are a little bit better than the retro bit ones. The plastic feels denser and weighs more. The dpad plastic has more texture, the retrobit is smoother. The originals have 90s mouse click switches for shoulder buttons. Retrobit had trouble sourcing those kinds of switches, probably because no one uses switches that feel that way anymore. Because of this, they decided to continue using switches under the shoulders, just like the Saturn, but instead use the cheapest switches available. As a result, the shoulders feel ridiculous. It's just stupid. It doesn't feel even close to the same, it's completely different. They should have used membranes like a SNES controller instead, since that feels just as similar as what they ended up using. Some people might even have preferred the membranes over the original switches.

[Anonymous No.10974836]

>>10974183
6 face button should be a standard
Imagine a mix between saturn 6 face button controller and xbox360 controller, it would be perfect

[Anonymous No.10975242]

>>10974286
>I don't understand why everone's so into the Saturn dpad.
It's the youtube, stupid.
I guess if you were a poorfag child back in the day they were decent enough. But I wouldn't buy one by choice today, except to resell or shelf collect.

[Anonymous No.10975580]

>>10974183
The Play Sega ones are of cheaper quality similar to the Chinese repros that were $3USD each, but they work well enough for me too. However, there is a hint more accuracy which I could feel in the SLS editions. If you need a select button, maybe the Playstation ones would be what you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.10975598]

>>10974183
I think it is the best 2D/pixel retro game controller you could possibly get. It works absolutely perfect for those types of games. That is why its an amazing fighting game controller. It is one of the better parts of Sega's legacy as a console creator.

[Anonymous No.10975605]

>>10974608
nigga you said no one uses those. thats what your retarded sentence says.

[Anonymous No.10975625]

>>10974286
it's very comfortable, it has a pivot and it's large in comparison to modern dpads, but gives the right amount of resistance that you can be both economical and precise with your thumb and hand movement
honestly i've been putting more time on mine lately because old fighting games and anime fighting games can be really brutal on your hands on both stick and leverless. the fact that i can switch devices and play around the same level means it earns my respect, and not just in FGs but other fast paced 2D genres too.

[Anonymous No.10975716]

>>10974183
I haven't tried fighting games but for beat em ups and other genres it's not the best pad. I also got memed into buying it an I don't know where to put my fingers, most Genesis/Saturn games dont' use that many buttons so they're just kinda there taking space.

[Anonymous No.10975736]

>>10974183
>Play SEGA pads
It's crazy to see zoomers praise these things.
When I was your age, we all knew these were shitty bait for people who couldn't get a proper SLS controller.

[Anonymous No.10975824]

>>10974307
looks slick

[Anonymous No.10975874]

>>10975605
Your reading is mistaken:
>No one who plays fighting games more than very casually uses either a standard MS or PS pad.

Reiterated for clarity (again nta this is my interpretation):
>Owning a fightpad or arcade stick is seen as a token of FGC participation as the community generally prefers them compared to generic console controllers

I'll even agree with you that playing on generic console controllers doesn't make you a bad player, there have been esports fighting game champions that used generic console controllers. That said, if you want to take fighting games seriously then you will have better progress playing on a dedicated controller, there's a reason so many players own them.

[Anonymous No.10975883]

>>10974446
>No one who plays fighting games more than very casually uses either a standard MS or PS pad.
huh?

[Anonymous No.10975913]

>>10975883
>Very casual fighting game players use either a standard MS or PS pad, anyone more than very casual does not
That's the best I can do, and I don't agree with the arrogance personally. Other anon, please improve your writing skills with the same fervor you have with your fighting games.

[Anonymous No.10976808]

>>10975824
This is beautiful.

[Anonymous No.10978565]

>>10975580
Ah, it's marble countertop anon. I hope you're doing well. I will have to post my own shit again sometime too.
I think the PS2 Saturn pads are the best bet for anyone wanting to use an adapter and plug into another system. That select button is nice and the PS2 controller's signal is easily decoded and encoded to other systems. They used to be really expensive but the price wasn't too bad last I checked. Gets more cost effective the more systems with which you use them.

[Anonymous No.10978642]

>>10975913
No amount of rephrasing will make your point less wrong. Probably over 1/3 of major entrants deep into bracket play on OEM PS/occasionally MS pads. It is also a very common opinion among top players nowadays that pad > stick, and that hitbox > both.

[Anonymous No.10978662]

>>10978642
It's not my point, I agreed earlier.

[Anonymous No.10979041]

>>10975580
>sega saturn playstation controllers
what fucking timeline have we been transported to paperanon?????????????

>>10974183
raphnet adapter
retrobit $15 controllers
qanba pearl arcade stick with gamerfinger buttons
the world is your oyster OP
i prefer astro city mini arcade sticks (usb) with brooks saturn\dreamcast adapters
looking into what other systems brooks supports currently

[Anonymous No.10979063]

>>10974183
>>10975580
How do the Retro-bit ones compare to these?
I want to buy that one from Retro-bit, with analog sticks.

[Anonymous No.10979070]

>>10979063
why the sticks?
its autistic, the system never had those to begin with
just buy a normal controller instead of trying to shoehorn analog into games that never even used it

[Anonymous No.10979096]

>>10979070
Saturn had an analog controller.

[Anonymous No.10979150]

mogs your saturd/geneshit d-pad

[Anonymous No.10979310]

>>10978565
Doing alright, recently hired to do some cleaning work, so I hope to save up enough to take advantage of a weak JPY. If I can save up enough to visit Japan, maybe I'll find more of the controllers.

>>10979041
I know that you know the answer, floweranon. Nice to see the ad that was in a lot of my games again.

>>10979063
The only one I got of them is this one which is nice for its wireless capabilities. I've only used it on my MiSTer and I could probably fail a blind test with them, but side by side, while possibly a placebo effect, I think the official ones do feel a lot better in responsiveness and "softness" feel of the d-pad/buttons (may be due to usage). Compared specifically to the Play Sega one, they seem identical.

[Anonymous No.10979369]

will never stop shilling this, it's the best controller in the world and I will never touch another 3rd party controller ever (maybe victrix)

[Anonymous No.10979378]

>>10979310
>cleaning work

Don't you think you're capable of doing more? Perhaps if you weren't spending all your money on unimportant stuff you'd be able to work less and earn more. Get a job you can do from your home.

[Anonymous No.10979383]

>>10979150
I had one of these. D-pad's fine but fuck whoever thought square joystick cutouts wasn't the stupidest thing possible.

[Anonymous No.10980139]

>>10979383
not only that it feels really fat also. far more bulky than the ds1/2 in a very uncomfortable way.

[Anonymous No.10980449]

>>10979063
No analog triggers so it's basically just a good all in one controller for poor people. You can make due without the analog triggers to save cash but I wouldn't really recommend it over just getting the two actual Saturn controllers. The sticks are low profile mobile sticks too so again really only recommend for college kids and poor people

[Anonymous No.10981825]

>>10979369
looks too over the top

[Anonymous No.10981893]

>>10974392
I am interested in the 8bitdo one, but I'd rather have an almost 1:1 version of the Saturn controller. I don't know what's going on with Retro-Bit. They have been out of stock in Amazon for some time, and the prices from third party sellers are already triple of what I paid for it. I liked it and I wanted to get a second one, black and wireless.

I haven't seen the new model with analogs either. It's like it is only being sold in a few countries.

[Anonymous No.10981908]

>>10981893
That means you got the Bluetooth one like I did. I think it's been discontinued but they still sell the 2.4ghz version.

[Anonymous No.10981921]

>>10981908
Nope, the only one I have is the one in the picture, the wired one. Unless another manufacture makes a new replica, I will have to try my luck with third parties or resellers in ebay, I really want an spare.

[Anonymous No.10982165]

>>10979378
There's not much around here that offers $14USD an hour. Besides, one of the facilities I'm contracted to cleaning had these on the ground and I'm trying to smooze my way in figuring out how I can get to them before they are destroyed. Those remote work jobs seem mythical to me that young people has all the connections for. In all honesty, I'm not sure I can last in this job as I'm very tired after a day and don't get to play any games anymore, so I may leave prior to my probationary year is up.