/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10953308]

>basically requires autofire to succeed
>almost no chance of recovery after dying, outside of a few very specific sections
>90% of the game is just sitting on the very bottom of the screen
>your bullets, enemy bullets, medals, and even oftentimes the terrain are the same color
>can only see about 2/3rd of the screen at any given time
>scrolling over at the wrong time instantly sends an unavoidable sniper shot right at your ship instantly fucking up your run
How did this become the face of shoot em ups in the west? I know pretty much no one was actually clearing this in western arcades.

[Anonymous No.10953317]

Because it played like the Toaplan shooters that were popular before it, except it was more impressive in a lot of ways.

[Anonymous No.10953360]

>>10953317
Raiden feels like the euroshmup version of classic Toaplan

[Anonymous No.10953368]

>>10953360
I bet a lot of yuroshmups ripped off Raiden specifically.

[Anonymous No.10953389]

I've been autistically binging shmoobs for the last few months after never really playing the genre, and the Raiden games might be the only ones I've tried so far that were genuinely just bland and annoying to play. Feels like the bread sandwich of shmups and I want to eat glass every time I have to deal with a powerup in Raiden DX

[Anonymous No.10953394]

>>10953389
they're bullshit and have some questionable design decisions but far from bland imo.

[Anonymous No.10953396]

I love Raiden - Raiden II in particular.

[Anonymous No.10953407]

my pizza place had raiden 2. i thought the fully charged purple weapon that was like a magnetic laser was so cool. i dont think it was actually the best weapon. i remember renting a snes raiden game and being disappointed it wasnt on there, and then renting the ps1 game where it was i think. raiden in the arcade was a totally different experience. the sound had a lot to do with it. it made the game feel much more premium

[Anonymous No.10953521]

Raiden games look really cool but something feels off about them, like your ship is a little too slow. I have the PC Engine version and I’m absolute shit at it but it’s fun to pick up and play every once in a while. I’d say it’s a firmly mid-tier, not great, not bad.

[Anonymous No.10953530]

If you can't one credit clear Raiden, then you need to git gud.
Top kek.

[Anonymous No.10953574]

Raiden is brutal for the reasons someone else mentioned, I still have a thing for it, it feels epic as fuck, and the music is infuckingcredible. I can't believe it doesn't get mentioned more. 2 in particular.

[Anonymous No.10953579]

Raiden is too fucking hard

[Anonymous No.10953601]

>>10953530
post clears shitter

[Anonymous No.10953745]

>>10953308
It's clearably without auto, 2 is the bullshit one.
Raiden is basically a toaplan clone with less lives.

[Anonymous No.10953937]

Raiden Fighters Jet is a top 10 shmup imo. the Fighters series has always been better than og Raiden

[Anonymous No.10954000]

>>10953407
Memory dump time:

Mid 90s, I am about 10 years old. I stayed at a hotel with my father for about a week and the hotel had put some money into setting up a really nice games room for the kids. Daytona, time crisis and about 5 arcade cabinets one of which was Raiden 2.

One night I'm there after dinner playing Raiden 2 which had become my favourite and the son of the guy who owned the hotel comes in puts a dollar in the machine after I was finished with it and was unstoppable. Must have had endless nights to practice. I stopped what I was doing to watch and he gave me advice to beat the game.

I've loved games like this ever since, even as they declined in popularity.

[Anonymous No.10955420]

>>10953521
>PC Engine version
was hard enough that they give you 6 credits to beat it

there is also a "cheat" where if you continue on 0, you get some powerups

[Anonymous No.10956886]

>>10953368
Demonstar ripped of Raiden in more ways than one, an American Euroshmup.

The Playstation 1 had Raiden DX, probably the best version of Raiden released on a console.

[Anonymous No.10956897]

>>10956886
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htpwun59Udw

[Anonymous No.10956992]

luv me sum Raiden
simple as

[Anonymous No.10957248]

I haven’t played many classic shooters, but I always enjoyed pic rel. Maybe I’ll try Raiden later tonight. It’s a genre I haven’t explored much of.

[Anonymous No.10957390]

>>10956897
vr game covers like this went hard and beyond, love it

[Anonymous No.10958418]

>>10956886
Raptor for DOS might've lifted it's art style from Raiden too.

Looked up Demonstar. Holy shit why do so many euroshmups have momentum?

[Anonymous No.10958509]

>>10953389
Not really big on the mainline Raiden games but I love the Raiden Fighters franchise.

[Anonymous No.10959005]

>>10958418
Raptor and Demonstar are from the same developer, Scott Host, he is active and planning to bring the series to Steam and GOG, his YouTube channel has daily livestreams of him improving the classic games and should be out very soon. A new raptor is also in the works.

[Anonymous No.10959042]

Has anyone here played the Android/iOS Raiden collection? It's a lot of fun. It comes with Raiden 1 and all the Raiden Fighters games which is an interesting choice. Why not Raiden 2?

[Anonymous No.10959071]

The PC Engine CD-rom port has one of my favorite OST tracks in any video game. The level that it plays in was exclusive to that version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OahrtuO3bgI

[Anonymous No.10959173]

>>10959071
wow this goes hard, ima play raiden now

[Anonymous No.10959342]

>>10953308
Just drum two fingers on the fire button, you don't need cheater macros to win

[Anonymous No.10959913]

>>10953368
Nah R-Type is the most famous STG of all time and that's what a lot of Euros tool from hence why many are also horis.
If they took more from Raiden they would know the fun is in how flashy it is.
>>10953308
Good promotion and it had great music and cool jets, all the right ingredients to get people to dump credits into and for operators to buy one.

[Anonymous No.10959917]

>>10954000
Nice get for a nice story.
Yeah. Ironically gaming moved away from communities and sharing information.
It also feels bad that people are so focused on the clears for clout that they forget to enjoy the game.

[Anonymous No.10960213]

the difficulty is actually pretty fair if you learn a route, I got to the 4th loop when I was a shitter at the genre. Japanese players can loop it all day and night without sleeping so there's no excuse, but if you dont like that style of shmup just play something else. simple as

[Anonymous No.10960216]

>>10960213
>all day and night
exaggeration since the bullets get stupid fast but point remains

[Anonymous No.10961428]

>>10960213
>I got to the 4th loop
shut the fuck up shitter, you couldn't even beat the first loop, and the second loop is like 5x harder.

>Japanese players can loop it all day and night without sleeping
No, they can't. Raiden second loop is harder than Raiden 2's second loop and the rank keeps increasing, and by loop 4, everything is basically hitscan. The arcade archives port (tons of Japanese superplayers play those ACA ports) has only a couple who beat loop 3, and none that beat loop 4.

[Anonymous No.10961431]

>>10960213
Only one non-Japanese player has reached the fourth loop and it's not you, sorry poser faggot.

[Anonymous No.10962432]

>>10953308
>How
Because the game was glorious in 1990. My arcade had the raiden machine next to the final fight machine. At that point in time those were the hottest two games on the planet.

[Anonymous No.10963402]

>>10953308
>How did this become the face of shoot em ups in the west?
Because it's fun. I'm not very good at it but it's a classic.
>>10956886
Demonstar is the most shameless Raiden clone I've ever played. I still like it though.