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Are there any retro games you didn’t and still don’t get the hype for? Bonus points if you held these opinions pre release and post release

>> No.10933787

>>10933779
A link to the past. Just seems like a bland mindlessly easy SNES game intended to walk back LoZ2 and nothing else.

>> No.10933803

>>10933779
Super mario 64, sonic adventure just did everything better.

>> No.10933807

>>10933779
I thought chaos legion looked really cool, but after I played it I didnt like it worth a darn. same with drakengard.

>> No.10933827

Guardian Heroes. Only convinced this is hyped up because there are no other best em ups on the system and Saturn fans are trying their best to make every genre looked filled like a lot of other failed console fanboys usually do. Guardian Heroes has zero rhythm and is just a boring walkthrough. It might be the worst game I've played by Treasure.

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>>10933779
Counter-Strike for me.
It was fun to play some random maps from time to time, but many people played it almost 24/7, bomb-planting maps on repeat.

>> No.10933880

Anything by nintendo

>> No.10934041

>>10933779
All of them retro games are for faggot losers with 0 friends and everyone who plays them should be put in gas chambers Smiling Friends and OneyPlays is 1000000000x better and only smart people will understand the humor unlike retard video games

>> No.10934047

Mario after SMB3

>> No.10934048

>>10933779
SimAnt
it's kinda cool i guess

>> No.10934050

>>10934041
you must be 18 or older to post on this website

>> No.10934052

WoW, but I actually felt the hype before release because I enjoyed 2 and 3, but back the. I have a different idea of what mmorpg was all about.

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>you must be 18 or older to post on this website
...Anonymous
05/15/24(Wed)10:56:02 No.10934052
WoW, but I actually felt the hype before release because I enjoyed 2 and 3, but back the. I have a different idea of what mmorpg was all about.


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>> No.10934084

Metal Gear Solid
Grand Theft Auto

Don't care about stealth nor thug culture, never have, never will.

>> No.10934148
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This entire console. It had a couple great games, but the way it was overhyped was unreal. Especially in the early 2000's when you constantly heard about it being the GrEAtEsT SySTeM EvER!!! Thankfully a lot of that has cooled off in recent years.

>> No.10934152

my brother and i have both been proud members of the ocarina bad club since the game was released

>> No.10934263
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>>10933779
Any classic turn-based JRPGs.
I genuinely just don't understand this genre.
Also OOT, it's a good game and all but I just don't get why are people so fanatical about it.

>> No.10934308

>>10934148
It's actually kinda amazing how much it's died down. I never thought I'd see the day where people actually go Genesis > SNES when for years the same side would go "LMAO SEGA GENESIS ALWAYS SUCKED DUDE! IT ONLY HAD SONIC 1, 2, 3, AND FART SOUNDS!" But yeah, I think the NES is even more popular than the SNES nowadays too.

>> No.10934319

>>10934308
>I never thought I'd see the day where people actually go Genesis > SNES
i think its because the genesis has actual hidden gems on it. if you look at the top selling genesis games its just sonic, sports games, ports, and slop. the snes best sellers are mostly the renowned games. although there are some outliers like super metroid not selling anywhere near what its reputation would lead you to beleive.

>> No.10934398

>>10934308
Nothing has changed, the SNES still superior, the Genesis still sounds like farts, this is still the main stream opinion and only contrarian hipsters like yourself think otherwise.

>> No.10934460

>>10934308
Probably just a factor of what age group is the loudest online. Now it’s N64 kids

>> No.10934468

>>10934148
In the 00's it was easier to emulate for many (no bios files hunting, just run & play) and it's top games had colorful graphics, good audio, strong design direction and often matched TV cartoons and animes worldwide.
That was probably it.

>> No.10934487

>>10934263
I think jrpgs are for people for whom the derpy plotting and characters are a feature not a defect. they're basically a novels worth of lame text

>> No.10934505

>>10933779
Banjo kazooie. I just don't get it, Glover is a better game.

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>>10934487
That's the thing though.
I like the weeb story and cliche characters, it's the gameplay I can't stand.

>> No.10934519

>>10934308
the enthusiasm for the top 50 classics has reached saturation point and a fair number of them on examination are reliant on aesthetics and first time experience, then you compare that to the genesis's strong roster of lesser known arcade style games. makes sense how it might shift.

>> No.10934587

I was a huge FPS fag in the 90s. First time I played the original Halo was at a demo kiosk. I thought "this seems OK I guess." Later a friend got it, I played it, and still thought it just seemed OK, no interest in buying it. Felt much blander and less engaging than Duke 3D, Blood, and Redneck Rampage.

>> No.10934638

>>10934047
the movement repertoire of 3d mario deserves its classic status, nothing else in the genre since has matched it.

>> No.10934648

>>10934638
I suppose but movement is the only thing SM64 has going for it.
Don't know about the other 3D ones.

>> No.10934695

>>10934587
Main thing that impressed me was the grenade hotkey + very useable grenade physics, all the FPS games that had grenades as just another 0-9 weapon and/or had bizarre unstable physics really felt dopey to me after that. But that's a pretty run of the mill concrete innovation.

>> No.10934742

>>10934518
You play them for the characters/story, not really for the gameplay. JRPGs are basically the first movie games.

>> No.10935132

>>10934148
I love the SNES, so many beautiful games. Over time, I've come to realize that the Mega Drive feels sloppy in comparison, palletes are ugly and the sound is both too loud and too simple. Even SEGA employees shittalk this console, comparing it to the PC Engine.

>> No.10935363

>>10935132
Notice how you immediately went with "beautiful" rather than "fun" or "engaging" or anything else relating to actual gameplay quality. Yes, SNES games sure do look great in screenshots.

>> No.10935365

>>10933779
First day on /vr/? Otherwise you'd already be sick of hearing everyone's contrarian opinions on every game.

>> No.10935560

Golden Axe. I prefer the TMNT beatemups

>> No.10936207
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10936207

This turd. Loved KH1, couldn't wait to see what they did for a sequel, and it's nothing but a series of hallways and circular arenas separated by cutscenes while all you do is mash X and occasionally press Triangle. Didn't mind the story but after a point I just stopped caring because my mind had genuinely gone numb from how one-note the gameplay was.

>> No.10936209
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10936209

OOT sucks.
Didn't play back then because master race and nowadays i just can't look at it nor play beyond the village.
It's exhausting and i can't get into it

>> No.10936258

>>10934152
I liked it in it's day but I tried playing it again recently and...woof. I don't feel that way about any of the other Zelda games though. I know it's REVOLUTIONARY and LUDOKINO blah blah it's slow and boring.

>> No.10936260

>>10933779
Explain what's wrong with Sim Ant?

>> No.10936269

for me, it's Final Fantasy VII and Chrono Cross. Not that I hate them or see them as bad games, but they're way overhyped.

>>10936260
nothing, there's a difference between unpopular views and contarianism.

>> No.10936284

>>10936269
After years of deliberation, I think FFVII actually earns it's reputation. Chrono Cross on the other hand, I do not get at all.

>> No.10936286

>>10933779
The Diablo series and any other game of the genre. I can understand the appeal, but I just cant get into it. My "favorite" is still Diablo 1, because it doesnt go overboard with the looting and button mashing mechanics.

>> No.10936336

>>10934084
You definitely just played a few minutes of each (if that) and judged them entirely on surface level theming with zero regard for their other merits. Gratz. Enjoy your day at the glass sorting plant.

>> No.10936337

>>10936284
I get what you mean, but I still think its fans went a little too far, especially the cringe fanfic about Sephiroth, king of edgelords. The same is also true of Earthbound and Undertale, but I feel like those waves of hysteria were more justified.

>> No.10936363

>>10936337
Yeah don't get me wrong, I went through a "FFVII actually sucks" phase when all that "Compilation of Final Fantasy VII" stuff started coming out but I sat down a few years after that and gave the game an honest chance again and I ended up really liking it.
Also agreed that EB and Undertale's fans are both very annoying and turn people off from the games.

>> No.10936371

>>10934048
>>10936260
Nothing, was just referencing this. SimAnt was cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGZ1H2dvN6U

>> No.10936449

>>10933779
Fallout, but I will concede its probably a skill issue in understanding how to do a proper build. Will probably give it another go this summer, any build advice?

>> No.10936463

>>10936449
>mom?
crit + shoot eyes

>> No.10936469

>>10936449
1 or 2?
They're pretty similar, lets start with the basic SPECIAL stats and the two special perks
Tag
>Small frame
>Gifted
Raise AGL to 10 and also high INT (8-10)
Lower CHR to 2 or 3
Usually my chars have 6/5/6/2/8/10/6 with variations for e.g. a luck (crit) build

For the three skills tag for part 1
>Small guns
>Big guns
And one of your choice with respect to your playstyle
Maybe lockpick, maybe speech, maybe gambling, maybe something completely different

In F2 special and the perks are the same but the skills are tagged
>Unarmed (Because you don't have a gun at the start of the game and also ammo is hard to come by and also you want to get the slayer perk when hitting lvl 24 - if you even can reach that far)
If unarmed sucks for you you could also go for melee weapons
>Small guns
>Energy guns

That should give you a good start. These builds are primarily for gun-slinging characters. If you want to go melee you need to build otherwise, but melee is underwhelming until level 24

>> No.10936470

>>10933779
Pokemon. I won't say it's the type of game, I've enjoyed similar games (like the DQM series which came out not long after the original Pokemon games), but Pokemon just never really did anything for me.

>> No.10936483

>>10936470
I enjoyed Gen 1 and bought into the hype. Then Gold and Silver came out and I thought "oh this is the same fucking game." I'll try picking up Pokemon up every few generations but it's so boring and slow paced early, especially early in the game. I get why people like it but I can't imagine getting sucked into it like a lot of people do.

>> No.10936519

>>10936449
>any build advice?
For core stats, none should be lower than 4, and you usually don't need higher than 8, especially since you can increase some of them through in-game events (the exception is a 10 luck run to get the alien blaster). Beyond that, distribution depends on the build you're going for, although Intelligence & Agility should be high.

For tag skills, always take Small Guns. The rest is up to you, Speech and Repair are recommended, but it depends on build of course -- if you're a Thief, you'll want Lockpick, and so forth. Outdoorsman is useless (although it was buffed in the sequel and in mods).

Contrary to the other anon, Big Guns are not worthwhile unless you're really gunning for that so to speak, since there's only a few of them in the game (you'll also need high Strength). You'd be better off with Energy Weapons, which has a better selection, although like Big Guns, you usually won't get them until later in the game (unless you go for the Alien Blaster with 10 luck as mentioned above).

For Traits, Gifted is recommended, even though you take a hit to your skills, boosting your core stats is well worth it. Fast Shot can be useful for extra AP, but alot of players prefer targeted shots, which can be quite devastating, so it's up to you. Skilled should be avoided, as it's not worth losing Perks for it, especially since you don't actually get any extra skill points per level, only the initial increase. Finesse is decent if you're going for crits. If you have an extra slot, Bloody Mess can be fun, although it's not statistically useful.

As for Perks, just take whatever seems good, although I will say that you don't need Mental Block, since you can just grab a Psychic Nullifier to avoid getting mind-raped in the endgame (aside from damage, the corridor of revulsion does a permanent -2 to both Intelligence and Perception, which made me reload; the writing for that scene was great at least).
cont.

>> No.10936549 [DELETED] 

>>10936519
OG Fallout is designed around three basic builds: fighter, thief, diplomat. In practice you'll want to combine these in various ways -- combat and dialogue are important, and various other skills can come in handy depending on your choices. Being a smooth talker + sharpshooter is a popular build, you can also go the melee combat route, which scales up nicely with brass knuckles and later gauntlets, and the Slayer perk makes you a powerhouse in the late game. Going for Thief opens up challenges & quests that you'll likely skip over on other runs (robbing Killian, Hightower, etc).

As long as you're reasonably balanced, ignore bad advice (like setting any core stat below 4), and invest in useful skills, you should have an awesome time. Fallout 1 really is a classic, and in many ways it's like a D&D campaign in a post-apocalyptic setting, with the game as DM weaving things together. The final boss is one of my all-time favorite villains, especially since he has understandable motives, his Plan might've even worked, if not for its fatal flaw. That's another thing, there's very good writing throughout.

>> No.10936551

>>10936519
>>10936469
cool walkthroughs

>> No.10936568

>>10936519
OG Fallout is designed around three basic builds: fighter, thief, diplomat. In practice you'll want to combine these in various ways -- combat and dialogue are important, and various other skills can come in handy depending on your choices. Being a smooth talker + sharpshooter is a popular build, you can also go the melee combat route, which scales up nicely with brass knuckles and later gauntlets, and the Slayer perk makes you a powerhouse in the late game. Going for Thief opens up challenges & quests that you'll likely skip over on other runs (robbing Killian, Hightower, etc).

As long as you're reasonably balanced, ignore bad advice (like setting any core stat below 4), and invest in useful skills, you should have an awesome time. Fallout 1 really is a classic, and in many ways it's like a D&D campaign in a post-apocalyptic setting, with the game as DM weaving things together. The final boss is one of my all-time favorite villains, especially since he has understandable motives, his Plan might've even worked, if not for its fatal flaw. That's another thing, there's very good writing throughout.

eta: There are experimental novelty builds you can try out, although I wouldn't rely on them. One I mentioned already, where you set your Luck to 10 and get the Alien Blaster from the UFO, I'd recommend tagging Energy Weapons for this run, so you don't crit fail and have it blow up in your face. There are also other interesting things that happen, like the leader of the Raiders thinking you're his dad's ghost. Setting Charisma to 10 gives you some unique bonuses too, like the girl in Shady Sands telling you about Deathclaws, a bit of dialogue you usually won't get. But usually Charisma is not so important.
You can also do a tard run: if Intelligence is set to 1, your dialogue options change into ridiculous HURF DURF responses, leading to unique interactions which can be pretty hilarious.
cont.

>> No.10936581

>>10936568
If you really know what you're doing, you can game the system. I saw some dood on youtube who relied on the Alien Blaster and a massive payout of bottle caps from finding the overturned truck (another unique encounter which requires high luck, possibly 10). From there, he went to the Hub to buy drugs: Mentats for Intelligence, Psycho for combat, and so on, then made a beeline for the final quests. The game really doesn't expect you to rely on dumb luck and drugs to win, but funnily enough you can make it work. However, this path is not for the uninitiated, you have to really know the ins & outs to pull off stunts like that.
Besides, the main strength of OG Fallout is its story and atmosphere, and doing a normal balanced run, exploring the world at a reasonable pace, is the best way to experience all it has to offer.

>> No.10936582

>>10936463
>>10936469
>>10936519

This is helpful! I guess I'm not used to the games where you cant do everything in one run, guess stuff like Skyrim has made me soft. What was the last game where you cant do dick with a weapon unless you specialize in it? Was it Mass Effect 1?

>> No.10936637

>>10933779
Megaman games. i liked them more as a kid, but as i've gotten older i think they're mostly really overrated aside from a couple of the games.

>> No.10936650

>>10933779
>are you a massive contrarian sperg?
>bonus points if you make a gay thread to pose the initial question

>> No.10936668

>>10933803
gr8b8m8ir88/8

>> No.10936674

>>10933859
The guns were so cool though. Counter-strike is one of the few games that's extremely influential and also a great game still in 2024. Usually it's one or the other

>> No.10936681

>>10936269
>>10936284
No one praises Chrono Cross. It's middling. It just has amazing music so some people force themselves to like it

>> No.10938512

>>10933779
every N64 and SNES game aside from Chrono Trigger

>> No.10938740

>>10933779
Sonic series. I like Sonic, I liked most cartoons, like the Genesis sonic games, I even bought the collection on PS2, but I don't understand why it is so, so beloved. It's good but I don't think it's fucking amazing and don't get why there's a hardcore fandom about it. I also actually don't care about or like anything from Sonic Adventure 1 on. Furthermore, it seems like the fandom is more of a western thing as well which I truly don't get other than "because furries". It might be more fair to say I don't get the modern day hype rather than the hype back then though.

For back then... the Dreamcast and anything that was on the Dreamcast. Phantasy Star Online, Jet Set Radio, the aforementioned Sonic Adventure. I don't get it.