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Dave and Meryl
Sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G

>> No.10924614

Not canon.

>> No.10924624

>>10924609
Unfortunately Kojima went with the gay ending where Snake saves Otacon instead.

>> No.10924648

>>10924614
>>10924624
Not true.

Otacon didn't die in the ending where Meryl is saved because the base was never bombed.
Otacon ending makes Colonel Campbell reveal that Meryl is his daughter, but Meryl surviving doesn't suddenly make her *not* his daughter. It's likely that Campbell simply told Snake offscreen once the two of them split apart to do their own goals.
Snake only gets the infinite ammo bandana ("bandanna") from Meryl after saving her, and he has this bandana in MGS2.
Otacon made the stealth camouflage, he could easily have made another for Snake before MGS2. The stealth camo Otacon gives him in the Otacon ending does not have to be the same exact camo that Snake uses to board the Tanker.

>> No.10924654

>>10924614
I slid a spoon over the circle button like a retard. Let me decide what's canon and what isn't ORZ
>>10924624
In the ending i got the bombing doesn't happen at all

>> No.10924657

>>10924614
both endings are canon, snake and meryl broke up

>> No.10924665

>>10924654
>spoon
for me, it was a pen with the tip retracted. especially for Star Fox Adventures...

>In the ending i got the bombing doesn't happen at all
It doesn't happen in any ending because Campbell gets the strike aborted and the Secretary of Defense arrested. People are confused (I think) because Otacon has an emotional goodbye codec call with Snake where he knows he will die if the base is bombed, and I don't think Snake calls him again once everything is over.

>> No.10924728

caribou

>> No.10924768

>>10924665
>a pen with the tip retracted
How is that used for mashing?

>> No.10924815

>>10924657
Snake will actually reference Meryl during the Tankee mission too, I believe. Something like "I've had enough of tomboys," I think in reference to Olga.

>> No.10924842

>>10924815
And in MGS2, Snake explains that after Shadow Moses, he went back to drinking himself into a stupor and would have stayed there had Otacon not invited him into Philanthropy. Meryl corroborates this in MGS4 by saying she tried and failed to get Snake to clean up his act and ultimately left him to rot.

>> No.10924867

>>10924768
Place the pen on the bottom then tap the other end as fast you can. No need to apply a lot of strength. Works as a lever.

>> No.10924870

>>10924867
*button

>> No.10924875

>>10924842
>Snake blew it with Meryl
>for alcoholism
Man, she must have been a genuine pain in the ass.

>> No.10924891

>>10924875
She did say she was more comfortable with a gun than with a bra, so maybe it was a horse girl type of situation

>> No.10924902
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>>10924614
Yeah, Dave dies

>> No.10924939

>>10924609
Otacon and Snake fucked though

>> No.10925275

>>10924768
>>10924867
You push the button down, then move then pen off the button without lifting it, then move it back onto the button. Repeat and it will mash the button very quick.

>> No.10925278

>>10924624
The Snake Merryl dynamic in MGS4 be like
>huh kid, you wouldnt want this old man...not me, even though I've got all of these wounds that need lickin' and am kicking the bucket real soon...
>but snake I WANT t-
>nah, not me kid...I'm too old for you
>Snake I want to call you daddy while I choke on your wrinkled coc-
>give it up kid...

>> No.10925316

>>10925278
Kek

>> No.10925470
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>>10924902
What an all-time line to go out on though.

>> No.10927273

Meryl ending is too chiché. The gay ending shows two people bonding over loss and as such has deeper emotional impact.

>> No.10927653

>>10924614
>Kojina canon
Not canon

>> No.10927667

>>10924875
meryl did fine with diarrhea man, snake just had a hard life

>> No.10927694

>>10924939
Yes but that says nothing about Snake's relationship with Meryl

>> No.10928987

>>10927667
>Meryl is a pain in the ass
>marries a guy with nonstop IBS
They’re built for one another.

>> No.10929268

>>10924624
Somehow, Meryl returned...

>> No.10929517

>>10927694
Snake basically fucked Meryl once, got pissed off because she wouldn't stop talking about guns, soldiers, etc like a sperg even during sex. He just wanted peace and quiet
If Otacon was a cute scientist girl, Snake would have married her. Kojima made a mistake.

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>>10924614
>Not canon.
correct. picrel is the canon ending and kojimbo's original vision that was fulfilled thanks to the power of the gamecube

>> No.10930676

>>10927667
>>10928987
is it the fact that johnny was a joke character for 2 (3 if you count his grandfather who dies in PO) the reason why you had people hate him in MGS4 or is it the fact that he got with meryl in the end?

i get that he's a goof but at the end of the day he was still a good enough soldier in his own right to not only get into special forces but also was able to coast with literal super soldiers and effectively survive shadow moses and big shell. i feel like that says something meanwhile snake was kinda resigned to die after everything with ocelot was settled.

>>10929517
otacon was kojima's self insert before he actually inserted himself into the games.

>> No.10930728

>>10929536
>be paid hundreds of millions per job
>ugggh my life is awful

>> No.10930730

>>10930728
>be paid hundreds of millions per job
Whoa, that's like 3 CRTs, a Super Nintendo, and even a copy of SMW!

>> No.10930736

>>10930676
>otacon was kojima's self insert before he actually inserted himself into the games.
Top fucking kek, this is a good point.

>> No.10930738
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I'm your creator, Snake! I created you! Snake! I'm wearing glasses on upside down, Snake!

>> No.10930749

>>10930676
>hate him
I don’t hate him, but turning a joke character (particularly a character whose personality is entirely about having diarrhea of all fucking things) is a pretty polarizing idea. Eccentric for sure, but teetering too closely to just being fucking bizarre.

It’s too surreal to even phrase properly. Imagine telling people working on the game that Johnny the diarrhea guy was going to be an integral character this time around lmao. And not just that, he gets fucking married to one of the series’ heroines.

>> No.10930793

>>10930738
more like hideous kojima, amirite?

>> No.10930980

>>10929536
>"i told you about the stairs otacon"
>"it keeps happening snake!"
and people hate these cutscenes? this is amazing.

>> No.10930998

>>10930749
kojima clearly wanted snake to die at the end of the series but nobody else did so MGS4's conclusion feels like a series of compromises. i don't think snake was ever going to get with meryl in the end.

>> No.10931012

>>10930980
I read that as stairs otaku and imagined some japanese guy with catalogues and models of all the different kinds of stairs

>> No.10931014

>>10924624
the people that think all mgs2 backlash was about raiden don't understand how much I fucking hated otacon

>> No.10931015

>>10931012
They exist.

>> No.10931263

>>10930749
>poop man breaks normie minds
I think they fleshed him out well enough in 4

>> No.10931371

>>10931263
Yeah, all things considered, they turned what sounded like the stupidest thing ever into something that actually worked. I cannot deny how based that is.

>> No.10931991

>>10930676
he self inserts peeing himself?

>> No.10932078

>>10925278
heh
10/10

>> No.10932082

>>10931263
>normie

>> No.10932358
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>>10931991
He was marking his territory

>> No.10932372

they dident have sex or anythin she just fingered his butthole a littel

>> No.10932381

>>10932372
She was trying to get the cigarettes out.

>> No.10932386

what if metal gear was a girl

>> No.10932391

>>10932386
see: Neon Genesis Evangelion Girlfriend of Steel

>> No.10932394

>>10932391
are you claiming that metal gear is working for the angels to destroy the neon genesis evangelion?

>> No.10932396

>>10932394
metal gear is Jet Alone's cousin

>> No.10932409

>>10931991
a self insert isn't always a mary sue anon. for example sailor moon the character is an author insert and she's portrayed as a ditzy & bratty crybaby for like most of the series who (along with the rest of the sailor scouts) was originally going to die a violent & brutal death because the author thought it was funny to have a story where all the main characters die in the end.

>> No.10932412

>>10932394
Snake seems like the kind of guy who could easily be convinced to go along with the human instrumentality project though.

>> No.10932418

>>10932412
Solid Snake is based on Snake Plissken, and the latter chooses to fuck all humanity without a second thought in Escape from L.A.

>> No.10932420
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>>10932418
snake is based on me

>> No.10932425

>>10932420
Based

>> No.10932476

>>10932420
same, back in 'nam I infiltrated Castro's secret missile base and destroyed the giant mech the nazis were building

>> No.10932518

>>10932476
You've just described Call of Duty: Black Ops.

>> No.10932576

>>10932476
You too?

>> No.10932591
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>>10932381