Handhelds vs TV

[Anonymous No.10912709]

do playing retro console games on handhelds ultimately devalue the intended experience of the game? Is it not better and more engrossing and impactful to play them on an actual big television screen?

[Anonymous No.10912717]

>>10912709
Who gives a fuck, faggot? Play some fuckin games you dumb bitch

[Anonymous No.10912718]

>>10912709
>Is it not better
It is but what does it matter how you play with a toy as long as you have fun?

[Anonymous No.10912723]

Yes
And yes
I hated the GBA/** years because the only way we saw any decent 2D games was on shitty handhelds with some severe compromise or gimmick involved. At least nowadays you can play the games without huge compromises, but it’s still a small screen/cramped control layout/platform that requires headphones for decent audio.

[Anonymous No.10912753]

>NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO YOU MAY ONLY ENJOY THINGS HOW I, THE AUTHORITY ON FUN, DEEM ACCEPTABLE

[Anonymous No.10912762]

>>10912709
>It's such a sadness to think you've experienced kino from the poor man's Stephen King

[Anonymous No.10912769]

>>10912709
I like small screens way more for retro games, I think it makes them look awesome. Getting a Nomad almost felt like a whole different system.

[Anonymous No.10912778]

>>10912769
at least modern handhelds have a much better screen than the Nomad, in theory anyway

[Anonymous No.10912783]

Depends on the game. My first handheld was a game boy, my first game on it was Link's Awakening, also my first Zelda game. It seemed profound that such a huge world was in such a little device. The contrast stimulated my imagination. I don't think there's anything in that game that I would have perceived more deeply or more accurately if it was on a bigger screen. Perhaps you could say that ALttP or OoT better express some essential 'Zeldaness' better than LA does, but then it's just a different game anyway.

[Anonymous No.10912784]

Simply playing it on a big screen isn't enough. To have really beaten the game, it must be all original hardware. The console, the game, the controller. the couch, the cheap consumer television. All of it. The walls better have authentic 80s wood paneling, too. Don't forget the halogen bulbs, none of that LED shit.

[Anonymous No.10912787]

>>10912778
Yeah, that's an ancient photo because once I could emulate portable I sold it. Nomad was amazing when it was the only way to play Genesis on the go, but the screen sucks, ghosting is terrible and it eats batteries like candy so basically useless without a plug. Now I mostly use a PSP but the effect is the same, old games shrunk down look great to me.

[Anonymous No.10912804]

>>10912784
whenever I buy an old game on ebay I wrap it up like a christmas present and place it under the christmas tree I keep permanently set up in my living room then open it the next morning

it just makes the entire experience feel more authentic, you know?

[Anonymous No.10912821]

>>10912753

[Anonymous No.10912827]

>>10912804
I know this was probably written as a joke but it sounds legit comfy

[Anonymous No.10912830]

>>10912784
>>10912804
reductio ad absurdum

[Anonymous No.10912849]

>>10912709
I think games that were intended to be played on a handheld, should be played on a handheld. For console games you could kind of go either way, but yes the ideal would be playing them on a proper display with the original controller (or a USB/Bluetooth version of it).

Currently I only really play my Game Box Plus (Famiclone) handhelds since I don't have as much time to devote to gaming as before, but I do have bluetooth controllers for Genesis and Saturn if I want to sit down and enjoy some SEGA CD or something on my TV. But I probably won't be doing that for a while since I'm working on other projects atm.

[Anonymous No.10912854]

>>10912784
>The walls better have authentic 80s wood paneling, too
yes please

[Anonymous No.10912880]

Absolutely makes 0 fucking difference so long as you're comfy and immersed.

Threads like this make me think that the main reason people try to play the games "authentically" is to recreate an experience in childhood that they can no longer feasibly have. It makes 0 meaningful difference how the game is played as long as you play it from start to finish. Fucking imbecile OP with the bait posts.

[Anonymous No.10912887]

>>10912784
>*plays recording of parents arguing loudly in the other room*

[Anonymous No.10912896]

>>10912854
>>10912784
I see You, Anon. I see You.

[Anonymous No.10912916]

>>10912896
You have now played Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.10912956]

authenticity levels in descending order
>real hardware + wood paneling
>real hardware
>real console + flash cart
>fpga
>desktop pc
>handheld
>youtube lets play

[Anonymous No.10912969]

>>10912709
Handheld gaming it's the best kind of gaming.

[Anonymous No.10913059]

>>10912956
I recently inherited my childhood home, and now my setup is in the bedroom I grew up in. I never want to leave my wood-paneled womb again.

[Anonymous No.10913062]

>>10912784
sir you forgot the cheap radio playing metallica and aerosmith cassette tapes you illegally copied from a friend

[Anonymous No.10913107]

>>10912709
The reason why Lynch opposes watching films on phones is because film, as a medium, is fundamentally about cinematography. At its inception, that was its distinguishing characteristic. It's very difficulty to appreciate cinematography on a screen of that size, just like it would be very difficult to appreciate music coming from a horrible speaker.

The distinguishing characteristic of video games is gameplay. So long as the device you are using does not meaningfully impede your ability to play the game, you are getting something reasonably approximating the intended experience. That's not to say that visuals, sound, and story don't matter when evaluating a video game. They just matter a lot less than the gameplay. The same way lyrics matter less than composition in music, and narrative matters less than lighting in film.

The only way to disrupt your ability to appreciate a game is radically alter the way meaning-containing sound and visuals are represented, or to cheat which, yes, includes the use of save states. Handhelds do neither of those things in of themselves, so they seem like a perfectly valid way to experience these games to me. I say this as someone who personally practices extremely rigid original hardware purism, mind you.

[Anonymous No.10913126]

>>10913107
>as a medium, is fundamentally about cinematography
since the matrix all movies have just been about fight scenes, anon

[Anonymous No.10913138]

Threadly reminder that Mark Frost confirmed that he gathered with Nintendo staff to give them ideas for Link's Awakening, making it the closest we have to an official Twin Peaks video game.
And you can play it either on handheld or on the TV with the Super Game Boy

[Anonymous No.10913172]

>>10913126
That's a reasonable conclusion if you work your way backwards from whats currently on offer. You could probably make equally embarrassing statements based on the state of modern games. Maybe it would be better to word it this way instead, then: film SHOULD be about cinematography, video games SHOULD be about gameplay, and so on.

[Anonymous No.10913212]

>>10913126
I just won't watch movies featuring fight scenes. Sorry! I know, it's just not interesting though!

[Anonymous No.10913365]

Threadly reminder that Mark Frost confirmed that he gathered with Nintendo staff to give them ideas for Link's Awakening, making it the closest we have to an official Hill Street Blues video game.
And you can play it either on handheld or on the TV with anything more than a toaster.

[Anonymous No.10913435]

>>10912956
>real console + flash cart
Yeah, I'm not gonna go past this unless the game is cheap. Most are up there in price, so either a Flash cart, ODE or softmod will have to do if I really wanna play a certain game without the jewish prices.

[Anonymous No.10913450]

>>10912709
>big television screen
The TV screen I played NES and SNES game on was 19 inches

[Anonymous No.10913457]

>>10912709
Threadly reminder that Mark Frost and Hideo Miyamoto masturbated in a hotel room together in the sweltering summer of 1992 to a video of Kevin Nash being penetrated by multiple sweaty, oiled strongmen (similar to what happened to Cloud in FF7)

[Anonymous No.10913459]

>>10913365
my retirement fund

[Anonymous No.10913492]

>>10912956
Didn't some of us try to force a meme about floors years ago? Maybe around 2016. I remember shitposting about floors and it wasn't on /diy/

[Anonymous No.10913539]

if its a handheld game you didnt experience it playing on a TV and if its a console game you didnt experience it on a handheld. the nintendo switch fails at both

[Anonymous No.10913575]

Jokes on you for getting a handheld without HDMI out, best of both worlds

[Anonymous No.10913592]

>>10913492
Was it about being sexually aroused over floor tiles?

[Anonymous No.10913607]

>>10913492
look anon it has to be carpet everyone had carpet in the 80s it wasn't until 2010 that hipsters memed imitation wood floors into existence

[Anonymous No.10913612]

>tfw too poor for wood panels
>grew up in a house covered in ugly wall paper

[Anonymous No.10913616]

SOUL

[Anonymous No.10913623]

My room as a kid was fairly kino, it was painted with green, blue and yellow, it felt like a playground.

[Anonymous No.10913624]

>popcorn ceiling
>wood paneling
>carpet
>incandescent lightbulbs
>couch
>off-brand CRT
>childhood NES and game cartridges
>FM radio alarm clock playing classic rock
>racecar bed
Yep, it's time for an authentic gaming experience.

[Anonymous No.10913631]

>>10913624
hold up bro

your missing the most important part

where are your bros

[Anonymous No.10913656]

>>10913631
They didn't have a chance once the world changed... I'm the only one that's left...

[Anonymous No.10913665]

>>10912709
>tv
console gaming isn't really gaming OP

[Anonymous No.10913675]

>>10913665
Based Virtual On Chad.

[Anonymous No.10914217]

>>10912784
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.10914223]

>>10912753
>you must beat the game without a guide
>you must beat arcade games with 1cc
>you must play on a CRT
>you must play on the original hardware only
>you must not play on a handheld
any more retarded takes from /vr/?

[Anonymous No.10914298]

>>10912784
Installing all of that at home is a bit too much unless you're a richfag, but this unironically sounds like a fun possible service.
80s for a day.

[Anonymous No.10914386]

>>10914223
>you must beat the game without a guide
>you must beat arcade games with 1cc
Those two are reasonable. Did you really beat a game if you were told how to do it? I suppose it doesn’t apply for action/adventure games or such, but if you were told how to solve a dungeon then you didn’t beat the game. That’s like saying you solved a cross world puzzle after looking at the page that showed you where everything was.

[Anonymous No.10914391]

>>10912784
It needs to be beaten during the year of release too, maybe with a month extension in the case of december releases, but not november. Beaten it after its release year? Hasn't beaten the game.

[Anonymous No.10914393]

>>10914386
>if you play with someone in the room and he tells you what you could do to beat the boss
>you do it
>game ruined you didnt beat the game

[Anonymous No.10914394]

>>10914223
>>10914386
>game requires two credits to start
>you didnt 1cc it

[Anonymous No.10914408]

>>10912830
not a fallacy

[Anonymous No.10914410]

>>10912896

Aside from the stripes, wtf happened to that poor gameboy? Looks like someone poured sulphuric acid all over it

[Anonymous No.10914483]

>>10912709
Handhelds are superior, they make every game better. The real handhelds, not these abominations like Switch or Steamdeck that will never fit you pocket.

[Anonymous No.10914489]

>>10914393
Hey retard, if you actually read what I wrote then you’d notice that I said I was talking about the puzzle aspects of games more than anything. If you’re playing Zelda: A Link to the Past but you have a guide open online and are just going where it tells you to go without figuring it out yourself then no, you did not beat the game. If you were given an equation to solve but the answer was on the back of the paper and you just read it and write down the number you saw on the back then no, you did not solve the equation.

[Anonymous No.10914492]

>>10914483
>they make every game better
In what way? Because you can play them in the car while your mom drives you to work?
>the handheld I prefer are good, the other ones with bigger oled screens don’t count!
Lol

[Anonymous No.10914496]

>>10913575
based

[Anonymous No.10914557]

>>10914223
They will tell you that emulation and shaders are wrong but turn around and recommend you glide wrappers, a million mods and texture packs for PC games
>YOU WANT THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF [insert Reddit game here]??
>JUST DOWNLOAD THE PC VERSION WITH THIS FAN MADE HD RESTORATION PACK!

[Anonymous No.10914668]

>>10912709
No. I only ever played gameby games on a bit television, because an angry child on youtube told me it's the best way.

[Anonymous No.10914705]

>>10912709
Screen size is irrelevant without also knowing the screen distance. The screen of a handheld held close to your face will likely fill more of your field of vision than a tv sitting across the room will.

[Anonymous No.10914709]

>>10913592
No I said it wasn't on /diy/.

[Anonymous No.10914710]

>>10914557
just making up guys in your head to get mad at

[Anonymous No.10914986]

>>10914492
>In what way? Because you can play them in the car while your mom drives you to work?

That and 100000 of other scenarios while you need to be chained to your stupid ass TV you dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.10915130]

>>10914391
anon nobody cared about what year a game released in until like the psx when games started going "pop culture", before that everyone was just happy to play a game they never played before

[Anonymous No.10915135]

>>10915130
t. man who hasn't beaten a game, ever.

[Anonymous No.10915158]

>>10915135
I'm sorry anon maybe this vintage gamer wallpaper will help you

[Anonymous No.10915163]

>>10915158
everything's so fake these days... even the wood paneling is just printed on paper and glued to the wall...

[Anonymous No.10915171]

>>10915158
Sorry, but I had wood panel walls when it was a thing. I remodeled the next year. Wouldn't want to live in a unfinished house.

[Anonymous No.10915192]

>>10914410
It's just been ridden hard and put away wet too many times. I got it pretty close to release so it's over 25 years old. I was in college at the time and had long train commutes so it pretty much went everywhere.

[Anonymous No.10916425]

>>10912709
that nigga literally gives all his hollywood money to wizard cosplaying poos that he believes can actually fly

[Anonymous No.10916426]

>>10912709
>do playing retro console games on handhelds ultimately devalue the intended experience of the game?
Maybe. Probably yes.

>Is it not better and more engrossing and impactful to play them on an actual big television screen?
Yes, sure. So, next time I have to wait at the doctor, in my car, at my in-laws, you come when I call you, and you bring me my PC and my 55" TV.
I may offer you a beer, you are now my slave (in a totally friendly, but non-homosexual, way)

[Anonymous No.10916442]

>beating the game by any means
>doesn't mean you beat the game