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I have one question for you. What is the best and comfiest RTS for MS-DOS?

>> No.10835687

>>10835649
Tie between Red Alert and Warcraft 2, depending on what setting and style of gameplay you prefer

>> No.10835876
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10835876

>>10835649
Pure comfiness (or carnage if AI patch is applied).

>> No.10835973

>>10835687
True words

>> No.10836001

>>10835687
>Warcraft 2
Does it get better? First few missions are kinda boring

>> No.10836091

>>10836001
>campaign
It always has been a multiplayer centric game.
Git good at Mini chop farms proper or the original Garden of War!

>> No.10836183

>>10835649
If I had to play one repeatedly, for sheer comfiness, I'd choose C&C. WC2 soundtrack is great, but C&C is one step better. There is also more mission variety, and the factions have different units. If you need to sink a lot of time though, WC2 might have had a skirmish mode, which would help a lot.
>>10836001
Unfortunately, the missions in WC2 predominantly do lewd things to donkey scrotums. Mostly because the difficulty isn't high at all, and the naval sections are just huge timesinks. There is a big jump in difficulty with the expansion though, so you could just use cheats to get the plot of the base game and then beeline to those missions. As with virtually all real-time games, the difficulty is adjusted primarily via the in-game speed slider, so ramp up the speed if necessary.

>> No.10836239

>>10836183
Does any oldschool RTS do naval battles right? They just seem to always suck

>> No.10838164

>>10836001
Act 1 is pretty basic. Act 2 and forward are all about wiping out the opponent base, but still not really challenging until the final human mission. Expansion is where the real fun begins

>> No.10838253

How do you guys set the mouse sensitivity in dosbox to play Warcraft (2) properly? For me, a single tap of the mouse sends the camera to the other side of the map. Turning down cycles kind of affects this, but it affects the actual gamespeed way more and in a negative way. Playing with keyboard camera is not fun.

>> No.10838257

>>10836239
Define "right". I've only ever played two RTS games that have good naval combat: Empire Total War and Napoleon Total War. Neither are retro.

>> No.10838312

>>10838164
Should I just start with expansion then?

>> No.10838313

>>10838253
Turn down cycles just enough for game to still run smoothly but scrolling works naturally. Also I've had more luck with this with dosbox staging and dosbox-x

>> No.10838325

>>10835649
The dungeon maps were the standout in this game. Really good idea to bring them out and expand them with secrets and loot in Warcraft 3.

>> No.10838331
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>>10835649
Settlers 2

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10838753

Well, technically it's not RTS but it's damn comfy.

>> No.10838870

>>10838753
Holy fucking based. I never see anyone posting this on here. Pikers destroy everything in this game. I thoroughly enjoyed taxing the plebs at the maximum rate. What a great game this was, bought it in the bargain bin for $5 at Wally.

>> No.10840651

>>10835649
Friendly bump for WC1

>> No.10843060

Welcome to RGB Classic Games. This is a very simple web site about a very simple time.
https://www.classicdosgames.com/

>> No.10843137

>>10836001
uhhh, the fun in wc2 is ignoring the enemy until you have cut down every tree, mined out every mine, and consumed all the oil on the map then built the largest army of the most powerful units you have access to possible and stomping the enemy

also don't forget to reload every time you lose a unit so you can have a perfect clear

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10843148

Seemed like a cool game but I remember there being some fuckery where the more times you saved your game the longer it took to load your game save until it became intolerable. And I don't just mean on the same map, but the entire game.

>> No.10843428

>>10835649
Red Alert 1 but I play the Win95 version.

>> No.10843431

>>10843148
Not a DOS game and it still gets fan patches to run on modern PCs in high resolution.

>> No.10843685

>>10843431
didn't ask don't care

>> No.10844264

>>10843685
But this is a thread specifically about MS-DOS, stupid!

>> No.10846130
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Blood & Magic

>> No.10846890

>>10846130
I was really into this game for a while in the late 90s because it was something my shit laptop could run. I never beat it though because the last part of the game gets crazy hard and also probably the laptop mouse nub wasn't cutting it for micro.

>> No.10847036

>>10846130
>EXPRNC instead of XP
>ATTK instead of ATK
>DFNS instead of DEF
It's like the gaming equivalent of some literature written in Middle English; recognizable but foreign

>> No.10847060

>>10835876
>AI patch
Tell me more about this

>> No.10847065

>>10838312
Not that anon, but if you're well versed in RTSs already and you don't care to go though the story (just here for the gameplay) then yeah, I'd say start with the expansion.

>> No.10848483

>>10838312
play original first, both campaigns have great missions near the end. Don't use save games

>> No.10848698

>>10847060
It's an official patch that makes CPU keepers smarter and supposedly improves creatures AI.
It's README contents and download can be found i.e. here: https://keeperklan.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1

>> No.10849468

>>10848698
Neat, only played the game unpatched I guess.
Have to check that out

>> No.10849928
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>>10835649
The OG.

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>>10849928
fk wrong pic.

>> No.10850704

>>10835687
Red Alert is worth popping back in just for that redbook soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuEjEDQ0Ixk

>> No.10852229

>>10838331
looks like Civ4, don't it?

>> No.10852615

>>10849929
Weird that the unit on the box pic is a Soldier, i.e. the basic bitch thing you NEVER use once you have an alternative and one of the three factions can't even build. A quad would have been a much more iconic choice, IMO.