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>Best party BY FAR
>Best side stories
>Perfect blend of old and new, still has random encounters in dungeons but Holy Protection makes it easy to explore the overworld.
>Best graphics (DQXI has too much post processing)
>Best romances (Yangus and Red, Hero and Princess Madea)
>Best English localization and voice acting
>Best (true) ending
Why was it so fucking good bros. It warms my heart every time I play it.

>> No.10833760

>gay fake britshart accents
>good
No.

>> No.10833764
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It's also my favourite... alongside 2.

I absolutely adore the game, I'd love to replay it but I don't want to over do it and ruin it, I need to be in the right state of mind to replay it, something like having several days free in a row with no worries on my mind so I can just close myself off the world and allow the game to lower my heartbeat to submit to its hypnotic rythm.

>> No.10833773

The jump from 2D to 3D was pretty fucking massive, even if the gameplay itself remained much the same as before. But just as amazing were the sheer amount of localization perks that made DQ8 feel like a premium product, not least of all the gorgeous orchestral soundtrack.

>> No.10833787

>>10833760
The American mind recoils in horror when it has to listen to a soulful dub comprised of a multitude of different European accents
>Posh English
>Cockney
>Italian
>Russian
>Italian
>Romanian
All performed masterfully well and tongue in cheek by top notch voice actors.
WAAAAH WHERES MY AMERICAN CARTOON NETWORK VOICES!!!?!?!

>> No.10833792

>>10833787
Sorry EOP, i don’t have to subjugate myself to the ear rape of fake britlard dogshit. Keep lapping it up though, enjoy.

>> No.10833807

I could have played in moon if I wanted, I've been grinding ankis for long enough to get through multiple Square RPGs with relative ease. But I chose not to, because the NTSC release of DQ8 is obviously superior:
>Great voice acting (Sorry you were filtered by cheeky British soul)
>Better menus
>Orchestral music (I understand preferring the MIDI for some DQ games but DQ8's midi music is pretty abhorrent)

>> No.10833819

It would be perfect if it wasn't so damn long

>> No.10833962

>>10833750
Reddit Quest 8 is fucking overrated
4,6,7 and even 3 mog it so hard

>> No.10834004

>>10833819
It's shorter than the ones before and after it.

>> No.10834007

>>10833750
Sorry Anon, you posted on the wrong board.
/vr/ generally hates 8 because it was the start of Modern Dragon Quest, which they hate with a passion.

>> No.10834014

>>10833962
>Reddit
You need to get off the internet for a while, anon. This place is clearly not good for your mind.

>> No.10834019

>>10834004
7 and 11 are longer, yeah but it's still fucking long

>> No.10834054

As someone who grew up with it, the "best party" praise it often gets never convinced me. Yangus carries the rest hard.

>> No.10834080

>>10834054
>Yangus carries the rest hard.
He does but in a game series full of bland party members he really makes 8 stand out from the rest. Jessica being hot and King Trode being funny also helps.

>> No.10834084

>>10833750
not really the best draquest are III and IX.

>> No.10834237

>>10833962
7 is absolutely not better than 8 lol.
To use a wrestling term this place loves working itself into a shoot where they’ll trash great games and praise lousy ones just because they don’t want to have something in common with redditors

>> No.10834240

>>10834237
Maybe you just have basic bitch taste?

>> No.10834241

>>10833750
One thing I really like about the game is that it starts in media res. The details of the backstory are revealed AFTER you start to get into the plot and characters. It works much better than the hours of introductory exposition a lot of RPGs from that era and beyond have.

>> No.10834246

>>10834237
7 is hardcore JRPG for true fans of the genre
8 is a a tranime bait slop for weebs and casuals

>> No.10834247

>>10834246
>tranime
>slop

>> No.10834250

>>10834246
You’re really proving my point

>> No.10834271

>>10834250
8 is a generic barebones slop carried by the greaphics and art style, not that the art style is good mind you because every casual faggots (like you) worship the work of that DBZ artist
>what about the soundtrack?
it fucking sucks, Dragon Quest is the only rpg series i play it with the music sound off

>> No.10834312

>>10834271
The whole franchise is reddit slop for casuals and tranime fans

>> No.10834385
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>>10833750
You are objectively incorrect.
DQVIII is the normalfag's DQ of choice.
DQV is the actual DQ fan's choice.

>> No.10834451

>>10834385
DQV is reddit

>> No.10834665

>>10834451
Letting a website live rent free is cringe

>> No.10834693

>>10834665
Whatever, redditoid

>> No.10834739

>>10833750
What's the best way to play it? I sometimes really like DQ but have been searching for the one game that really hits everything right.

>> No.10834754

>>10834385
wish the party size was 4
wish the localization wasn't arse

>> No.10834850

I've only played three of the games but I liked I and II a lot more than VIII.

>> No.10835090

>>10833750
>best DQ
>still shit game
>wanna save go to church
>2 frames of animation
>all faces are just Goku or Vegeta
>same bland music for 100 hours

Tradition is a bitch.

>> No.10835221

>>10833787
Now ya’ll listen hear! ‘Merican accent is tha best darn accent on gawds green lil’ ol’ earth boy howdy! Ya’ll do well ta remember tha! Ga-hyuck

>> No.10835324

>>10835090
>all faces are just Goku or Vegeta
opposed to
>beltszippas and azn face

>> No.10835339
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>>10834246
>tranime
Get out.

>> No.10835350

>>10834385
>Reddit Quest V is the actual DQ poser's choice.
fixed
posers jerk off this slop because youtubers told them the story is so sad and shit

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>>10835350
Cope. It is universally agreed that V is simply the best and most complete Dragon Quest title ever made.

>> No.10835421

>>10835350
>unironically liking any of the games
You just like this series because youtube told you that it's 'le first JRPG ever'. Fuck off with your tranime reddit goyslop, literally the CoD slop of Japan

>> No.10835445

>>10835417
Yeah universally agreed on at reddit

>> No.10835480

>>10835417
>it's universally agreed that the game no one played is simply the best
this is your mind on posers

>> No.10835481

>>10835421
>literally the CoD slop of Japan
that's Final Faggotry

>> No.10835486

>>10833750
What's the best way to play it? PS2 via PCSX2?

>> No.10835489

>>10835486
Yes, avoid the 3DS version at least for a first playthrough

>> No.10835510

IX was by far the best and most soulful DQ ever.

>> No.10835539

>>10835445
I didn't know Japanese fans of DQ congregated on reddit

>> No.10835547

>>10835510
i was lucky enough to play it with some friends in person ages ago which completely painted my perception of the game. i absolutely have no idea how it fares as a standalone single-player experience

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>>10834385
There's some things I like about 5, but it gives you all these options for recruiting monsters and then they're mostly useless by the end because your family is so powerful. I also really don't like the bride selection section, the storytelling there just feels so clumsy compared to almost everything else in the whole series. They should have either just given you your childhood friend to marry made the other option (or options depending on version) feel like they make sense.

5 definitely has some great things about it, but overall I think it's the weakest out of that trilogy of 4, 5 and 6.

>> No.10835582

>>10835571
Sorry but the superior Nihonjin think it's the best one so you're wrong.

>> No.10835665

>>10835571
DQ5 gets praised for the concept it presents, not really its execution, lacking as it is.
The wife "choice" for example is by far one of the most hyped up nothingburgers in the realm of RPGs. It changes nothing, your kids remain doormats and the game plays out exactly the same no matter who you pick.
The exploration was the most gimped out of the NES/SNES titles since everything is in favor of setpieces and the series never truly recovered from this even though 6 tried to rectify it somewhat.

>> No.10835802

>>10833760
>obsessed euromald can't even tell that it's real bongs and the localisation was done entirely in the UK

>>10833787
>even more obsessed euromald thinks anyone on the internet he personally dislikes is an american

Collective IQ of 12 between the two of you

>> No.10835812

>>10833750
Played it for a few hours, had some fun with the localisation, unlocked Jessica, levelled up her sex appeal stat a bit, got bored, looked up her R34 and jerked, haven't touched the game since. I only got to the port town immediately after the squid boss, funny britbong dubs and Jessie's tits can only hold my interest for so long.

>> No.10835839

>>10835665
>The exploration was the most gimped out of the NES/SNES titles since everything is in favor of setpieces
Been a while since I played DQ but didn't this start in 4? 4 is still my favorite and one of my most cherished NES games though

>> No.10835934

>>10835417
The power of waifu autism.

>> No.10836415

>>10835571
>DS

>> No.10836420

>>10833750
VA VA VOOOM

>> No.10836561

im playing the series for the first time. finished 1-3 on sfc and 4 on ds. What version of V should i play: sfc, ds or ps2?

>> No.10836572

>>10836561
PS2.

>> No.10836591

>>10836561
SFC, the way it was originally meant to be.

>> No.10836639

>>10833760
I know you are gay.

>> No.10836662

>>10835839
4 is pretty open after the individual characters chapters, you can collect the zenithian equipment in any order you want.

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>>10833750
>everybody tells me its as "bad" as DQII
>play the snes version
>one the most beutifull game i ever played
give you a favor and avoid the ds version

>> No.10836762

Wanted to get into this series but DQ1 on the NES left a sour taste in my mouth. Does DQ2 have the same flaws as 1 where you encounter enemies practically every single tile you move on the map, gain 1 gold per combat encounter, and spam attack/hurt spell day in and day out until you can finally progress to the next area? Or should I just skip to DQ3 on Android which is praised to hell and back in the land of the rising Sun?

>> No.10836794

>>10836762
its up to you
im currently playing 3 remake and its the only jrpg when grind feels like part of the gameplay and not an adjacent
but avoid VII if you dont like the series

>> No.10836828

>>10836762
You can vibe with DQ1 but you really have to force yourself to do so. I like it but it's not for everyone. DQ2 is a much bigger game, but is still grindy and lacks direction. Most people agree that 3 is the first really good one. If you want a smoother experience, play the 16-bit version.

>> No.10836830

>>10833760
>he didn't play the game with JP voices

>> No.10836843

>>10836415
Yeah that's the one I played. So in which versions of DQ5 are the issues I raised with the game different?

>> No.10836893

>>10836702
The translation patch has some issues.

>> No.10836920

>>10836843
In all of them. End game monsters learn breath attacks that do ~160 damage of all enemies for no cost. Even gen 2 monsters learn the ~70 damage breath at least.
You were gimping yourself by using the shitty children instead.

>> No.10836957

>>10833750
>This is the most repetitive Dragon Quest
ftfy

>> No.10836974

>>10836957
>repetitive
The word you meant is
>replayable

>> No.10837039

>>10836830
There is no JP dub, poser. The Japanese version has PS1-tier menus and no voice acting at all

>> No.10837041

>>10836920
I would think making your kids suck that much would make the narrative even worse. Anyway the monster thing was only one of my criticisms, the story overall isn't great and the central marriage family theme is super badly done. 4 and 6 are both much better games.

>> No.10837416

>>10837039
3DS version has a Japanese dub

>> No.10837439

>>10836639
For pittance sake guvna’, thou art the poofter here. Thine mouth art thou sucker of cocks.

>> No.10837462

>>10833750
Yeah, great game. Yangus is one of my favorite RPG characters.

>> No.10837501

>>10836974
good luck even playing it once without wanting to just fast foward through the last 2/3rds of it

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>>10836762
I don't remember how the encounter rate works in 1, but with 2 onwards it works so that you'll have moments when you're likely to have several fights in a row in just a few steps, alternated with moments when the game leaves you alone for a bit to let you explore. It's how it works in most DQ games from that point onward for a long time and also in most DQ clones like Mother. Talks of encounter rates in those games is one thing that taught me you can't trust most people's opinion on games, because they'll complain about having 2 fights in a row, but never mention or even realize when the game lets them walk around for more than a screen's worth with no encounter. They're either only capable of seeing the glass half full, or only capable to assume everything works like Final Fantasy and when they get no encounter they're being "lucky" without realizing it's per design.
Anyway combats in DQ2 are a lot more interesting than in 1 since there are multiple party members, multiple enemies, and a lot more options. You should play DQ2 because it's THE game that started DQ mania and basically started the jRPG genre, and if you check Japanese sites everyone acknowledges that, DQ1 didn't do that, and most copies of 1 were sold after 2 and 3. The meme opinion that 2 is supposed to be bad is entirely western.
But if when playing it and after 10 hours you still think the combat is a flaw, you should stop playing the series, especially the early games. In 2,3 and 4 the random encounters ARE the game. Those games don't even have the Final Fantasy standard of "one dungeon -> one boss at the time", most of the dungeons don't have a boss, and half of the bosses don't occur at the end of a dungeon. You need to drop the 16-32bit jRPG mentality consisting of meaningless random encounters and only the boss at the end of a dungeon matters, in 8-bit RPGs the random encounters are the game.

>> No.10837797

>>10836893
>not playing in nihongo
NGMI

>> No.10838650

>>10833760
People getting upset about DQ translations are the biggest damn posers on this site.

>> No.10838659

>>10835421
>literally the CoD slop of Japan
DQ releases a new main game twice a decade typically.
Final Fantasy is prepping for its seventh sequel to FFVII and FFXVII.
Yakuza has had annual releases with sometimes multiple games per year since it first started in 2005.

>> No.10838765

>>10833750
No, it's builders.

>> No.10839353

>>10834385
V is overrated. The monster party members are lame compared to actual characters, and the marriage plot feels rushed and unfinished with how your wife gets pregnant and gives birth in the next few hours of gameplay without any sort of timeskip like how they had already previously used timeskips.

>> No.10840094

>>10833787
>its GOOD that the accents are inconsistent and don't make any sense!
>top notch voice actors
lol lmao even

>> No.10840551

>>10839353
How are you an expert on wifes and pregnency considering you never had sex?

>> No.10840585

I enjoyed DQ8 but aside from the 3D environments i've enjoyed the worldbuilding more in earlier titles like DQ7. (which also has it's flaws)

>> No.10840720

>>10835445
>LE REDDIT
>LE REDDIT
All you can say, stfu bitch.

>> No.10841173

>>10840720
Sounds like something a redditor would say.

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>>10841173

>> No.10841190

>>10833750
I love 8, but everything it does, I feel like 11 does better. Especially as I've gotten older and I enjoy wasting time more, backtracking, and talking to NPCs obsessively; 11's NPCs were fantastic, especially if you keep up with them all late into the game when the timeline splits.

>> No.10841193

>>10838765
Builders 2 unironically has some of the best themes and character arcs in any JRPG. I expected a braindead minecraft clone, but instead got a sweeping epic about the relationship between creation and destruction, and the struggle of one man to change his destiny. Also all the shit in the final chapter about hopelessness and accelerationism was pure kino.

>> No.10841194

too grindy with a fucked balance
an encounter that can wipe your party if you're not careful barely gives you more XP than one that's impossible to lose

>> No.10841207

>>10841189
Nice reddit comic

>> No.10841246

>>10833807
Was there a JP rerelease that brought these features back? I really prefer to play DQ in moon.

>> No.10841301

>>10841246
The JP Release of DQVIII 3DS is great and has a nice voice track to go along with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ds6exrN1Gs

>> No.10841306

>>10841194
sounds like a skill issue to me

I always have to laugh when anyone calls a post-NES Dragon Quest "grindy" though. I've never had to grind in a single one. If I did, it was by choice just to get a new ability or something.

>> No.10841318

>>10841306
That's because they don't know the definition of the word and consider having 2 fights in a row while going through a dungeon "grinding". You see that "revisionism" thread in which 90% of all the responses are "this is revisionism because the opinion on the game changed"?
People don't know the meaning of the words they use and will sooner post 300 posts debating on the subject than learning what the subject really is.

>> No.10841389

>>10841301
But it looks awful.

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>>10833750
Wrong.

>> No.10841412

>>10841189
This for everyone who complains about reddit complaints.

>> No.10841590

>>10841318
I suppose. I think part of the issue is that "when to grind" is entirely up to the player to decide, and everyone has a different metric. I know people who think they "need to grind" as soon as they can't kill enemies with a single regular attack. Some people feel like they need to heal completely after every battle, which wears down on resources, so they think they need to grind.

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>>10833787
You're absolutely right, but still

>> No.10841805

>>10833750
The voice acting with European accents ruins it.

>> No.10841813

DQ8 is miles better than anything before or after, it's in a league of its own. Best music, best story, best towns, best graphics, best everything. Only major con is the atrocious speed and that the best version is a fucking phone port

>>10834385
>Oh, you like Bianca? You have grown a bond with Honey? You wanted to hang out more with Harry? You wish to fight alongside your wife? Sorry chud, all of these will only accompany you for a short while. Say hello to Adams the apple, Vlad the Dracky and Goodian the slime knight, they will be your main party members for 75% of the game.

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I'm playing through the series in release order and I swear to fucking Christ I'm about to quit DQVI. I just got to the flying bed and this entire game is so goddamn slow and boring it's unreal. I-V were all great, each felt unique and was a ton of fun, VI is just III but worse with the most boring storyline and the dullest characters I've ever seen in a game.

>> No.10841969

>>10841898
Just take a break. VI and VII are commonly cited as being more tedious than the rest, and you're not doing them any favors by tiring yourself out on five consecutive DQs.

>> No.10842004

>>10841969
Thing is I enjoyed the other ones, I'd beat one and jump right into the next all excited. I'm at least a third through this one and wondering when literally ANYTHING is going to happen.

>> No.10842015

>>10842004
The first five are relatively quick games for JRPGs. VI and VII is when they start ballooning into 80-100 hour affairs. Trust me, this is the single best place to take a break.

>> No.10842203

>>10842004
I've played every game in the franchise and VI/VII were the only points that I burned out. I'd go as far as to say that you should skip them and come back to them later, especially because the last three entries in the series (not counting X) are all very good.

>> No.10842207

>>10841969
Those are the two best games. I always recommend starting with them so you don't lose interest by how crappy 1-5 are in comparison.

>> No.10842208

>>10842207
(You)

>> No.10842209

>>10842203
I wouldn't call the wannabe MMORPG that is DQ9 "good" on any level.

>> No.10842212

>>10842208

>> No.10842282

>>10834739
What do you mean? There's only two versions of 8, just pick one and play it.

>> No.10842292

>>10842209
DQ9 is an entirely standalone game, the wifi shit only comes into play in the postgame. It's also the closest game design-wise to 3.

>> No.10842295

>>10836762
>DQ1 on the NES left a sour taste in my mouth
Damn you fucking suck kid, it's not that hard. Just grind up for an hour then mow everything else in the game like it's nothing.

>you encounter enemies practically every single tile you move on the map, gain 1 gold per combat encounter
DQ1's RNG rolls only work on real hardware, specifically the game's speed which on an actual NES would be running on its oddball 60+ FPS framerate. Playing on emulator or clone console causes the calculations to fuck up and make everything worse. You can look it up for yourself.

>> No.10842305

>>10842292
Almost the entire game is post-game. The story is mostly just a formality to prepare you for it, and it doesn't help that a lot of the features needed to stand any chance in post-game require wi-fi.

>> No.10842309

>>10842305
No, the main story is around 60 hours. You're just a narrative spinning kike.

>> No.10842326

>>10842309
>the main story is around 60 hours
Maybe if you suck. A decent player shouldn't need more than 30 tops to kill Corvus.

>> No.10842329

>>10842326
That was actually a typo. It's 50, rounded up from howlongtobeat's 48 average.

>> No.10842348

>>10842329
Which seems extremely generous. I just looked at my file with 57 hours, and I didn't grind at all outside of a few endgame abilities.

>> No.10842650

Finished DQ VIII and XI. Where should I go next and which version out of any on NES / SNES / GB? III and V have great reps.

>> No.10842896

>>10842650
3 on nes is fun, I tried on snes but thought it was boring. 5 was a great playthrough on snes and ds but haven't tried ps2

>> No.10842897 [DELETED] 

>>10842650
>Where should I go next
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers.

>> No.10842913

>>10841898
Nice LARP but anyone who's dragged themselves through DQII would never ever call anything else in the series slow or boring.

>> No.10842917 [DELETED] 

>>10842897
lol retard

>> No.10842981 [DELETED] 

>>10842917
lol kike

>> No.10843065

>>10842913
DQII wasn't bad except for the stair maze near the end and the fucking oneshotting enemies, but at least they give you a free res priest right outside the last dungeon. DQVI isn't hard, it's just fucking boring.

>> No.10843704

>>10841898
Yes, DQ6 is stagnant. It was the first time a new mainline DQ game didn't have a new major feature and instead focused on the amount of content it offered. I also feel like the main driving forces behind the game didn't care about this title as much as they did before and instead focused their energy on other things like Chrono Trigger.

With that said the gameplay is tons of fun in the 2nd half of the game. You can learn a lot of cool skills and there is actually a hidden super boss that makes you use those skills.

>>10842295
> Playing on emulator or clone console causes the calculations to fuck up and make everything worse

Every decent NES emulator can emulate randomized RAM on startup

>> No.10843738

Just got back from clearing the SNES version of DQ1, was pretty mediocre. DQ2's looking much more hopeful, but not much better. Least you actually get Holy Water early and have a chance at actually exploring the world.

>>10842295
What does not wanting to waste my time killing the same pitiable enemies for hours have anything to do with being bad at the game? In the first place, grinding is inherently a bad thing. I wanted to dungeon crawl, map out the winding corridors of a labyrinth, have fights with formidable opponents, and then escape at the brink of death or fail and perish as I watch the Dragon lord take over the world.
What I got was sitting outside of Rimuldar grinding until I got everything minus the magic armour, slave away for more XP around Damdara until I could make it to Cantlin, get the rest of the strongest loot in the game, then grind up to 20 before the Dragon Lord fight where the tactic is to spam attack and Healmore until he dies.
Ignoring the grind, there are retarded design decisions like magic keys and locking Holy Water behind a magic door. I've already gotten repel at that point, why would I ever stock up on Holy Water? Then there're enemies with CC spells like sleep, which can stunlock you until you're dead, which isn't too bad since you get Spellstop early on, but then you get an enemy that has an opening attack and can just cast sleep before you have the chance to do anything. The only notably good thing about the game is the adventure, and how nice it makes you feel for rescuing a cute princess and being hailed as a hero, but that's pretty much it. Was worth playing to get a good grasp to see how the series started though.

>> No.10843763

>>10837595
Yeah, 2 is pretty enjoyable in comparison. Different tiles(plains, forests, mountains) actually having different encounter rates is pretty nice. Couldn't tell the difference in the NES version at all and assumed it was bugged. Also, I'm impressed with the companion system. They're pretty smart with their target choice. If the player has a higher damage output than their companion, they'll prioritize eliminating a previously wounded enemy and leave him to one shot the next mob. They also follow through for you if you can't manage to 1HKO a mob. There's more resource management too, brighter caves so I can easily map them out, and early access to Holy Water - which is a relief. I can finally walk around the overworld and chart out notable landmarks and get to a dungeon without having to deal with 5 encounters every 3 tiles with the occassional 5 second break before the next 3 encounters in a row. It's really impressive how the sequel actually managed to make the game substantially better and not worse. I'm having high expectations for the rest of the series now.
Also, that princess art is adorable. Glad I'll be getting her in my party soon.

>> No.10843807

>>10837416
>remake
>created because of how superior the English version was compared to the original Japanese

>> No.10843815

>>10841189
Could've made the same joke with only one panel
>oh no, my garden is full of weeds!
>all you ever talk about is weeds, complaining about weeds is as bad as weeds themselves

>> No.10845704

>>10836561
DS is the best version. The new content is actually good unlike most of these distant JRPG remasters.

>> No.10845746

>>10841898
Playing the series in order is one of the worst ideas. It's pretty much a bad idea with any series but especially DQ, the games are just way too slow, boring and samey. Anyone who has actually done it must have attained true enlightenment and is in tune with rhythm of the universe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO_xh7xIabk

>> No.10845764

>>10845704
What new content? The only thing DS adds from the PS2 version is Debora.

>> No.10845768

How are people in Japan regarding different versions of dorakue games? As autistic and console warry as the west? Anyone read any 2ch dorakue threads?

>> No.10845858

>>10845768
You will never be Japanese

>> No.10845876

>>10833750
i flip flop between 5 and 8 being my favorite. probably 8 but i think the story in 5 is definitely the best

>> No.10845878

>>10836561
the ps2 version has the best ost

>> No.10845995

>>10845768
I really don't know about opinion on version differences, but you also have to remember you're on /vr/. The average DQ player probably uses "the latest version", be that on DS, 3DS, or "HD remaster" or mobile bullshit; regardless of whether they're in the west or in Japan.

What I know however is that the opinion of DQ1 and 2 are completely different. Over there they acknowledge that it's DQ2 that started DQ mania and is basically referred to as the start of jRPGs, while the western canon is to pretend that DQ1 invented jRPGs and 2 is a meaningless unbalanced POS you should avoid playing. They also don't know, don't care, about the improvements of the western versions and will consider the SNES version of 2 the first time there is the new intro and the first time you can save in the game even though that comes from the NES version. We have romhacks that revert the localized things, but I've never heard of Japanese romhacks that add the improvements and bugfixes of the western versions to the Famicom versions.