Final Fantasy VIII

[Anonymous No.10808370]

Literally how were you supposed to know?

[Anonymous No.10808458]

By pressing the triangle button.

[Anonymous No.10808471]

by reading the official strategy guide

[Anonymous No.10808493]

>>10808370
>Every choice makes me fight and I can't do anything else jeeez
>wait wuts diz

[Anonymous No.10808542]

>>10808471
We weren't even mad back then, the strategy guides used to be good right up until IX when they started selling guides that told you to go to websites

[Anonymous No.10808547]

you weren't, that's why they're called secrets

[Anonymous No.10808563]

>>10808547
100%ing a game shouldn't require you to find out "secrets"

[Anonymous No.10808592]

>>10808563
This was a time before achievements. People didn't play a game to "100%" it they just kinda played them. Strategy guides were for people who got anxiety about permanently missable items or whatever.

Secrets and shit were just for fun. Except for stuff like Contra or Twisted Metal 2 or GTA where kids would pass around the codes on notebook paper via work of mouth and memorization.

[Anonymous No.10808653]

>>10808592
>People didn't play a game to "100%"
Come on now anon, that's been a thing since JRPGs first existed.

[Anonymous No.10808689]

>>10808370
shut the fuck up bitch

[Anonymous No.10808691]

>>10808563
>Tell me you're a zoomer without telling me you're a zoomer.

[Anonymous No.10808715]

>>10808563
just run the 100% no secrets category

[Anonymous No.10808716]

>>10808563
does this even matter, the ff9 brothers with the ring wasnt discovered until like 10 years later, maybe you never 100% a game because there might be a still to be discovered secret

[Anonymous No.10808728]

>>10808370
oh boo hoo, i made the wrong selection twice and had to fight a few more ruby dragons and get good loot and exp. If they didn't figure it out by the third time, then that's on them.

[Anonymous No.10808729]

>>10808370
FF8 is filled with stupid bullshit like this and I'm convinced that the game designers were more interesting in jerking off and amusing themselves than they were in making a great game that made sense to its players.

[Anonymous No.10808748]

>>10808728
I like how if you do the Zell method for that puzzle after Bahamut, you're forced to fight high level powerful monsters all the way down on your way to Ultima Weapon.

[Anonymous No.10808771]

>>10808716
What did that ring even do, anyway?

[Anonymous No.10808794]

>>10808563
How do you think percentages work?

[Anonymous No.10808809]

>>10808771
It was a Protect Ring, everyone can learn Half-MP Mag Elem Null and Long Range from it. By this point, you either already has one or you just don't care about the sidequest, so maybe there was a good reason that sidequest was forgotten altogether since the triggers were as shitty as Fort Condor but even less obvious. The reward was pretty shitty regardless of what you should do to complete it.

[Anonymous No.10808939]

>>10808653
It certainly has but most people weren't so warped that they needed to get 100% on their first go. Most people were quite willing and in fact eager to play a game a second, third of even fourth time to maybe get all the stuff they missed.

[Anonymous No.10808947]

>>10808563
>100%ing a game
back then, people were heterosexual so they didn't care about that

[Anonymous No.10808951]

i wish i was good enough at video games to just know that you shouldnt open a specific chest so you can come back later and open it for better loot guess i just dont have the skills to be a pro gamer

[Anonymous No.10808969]

>>10808939
Which FF has the most replay value?

>>10808951
>you shouldnt open a specific chest
You'd only "know" this on a second replay?

[Anonymous No.10808971]

>>10808969
Your favorite

[Anonymous No.10808973]

>>10808969
real gamers just look at the chest and know

[Anonymous No.10808993]

>>10808951
Damn, I must be a gamer because I figured it out on my first playthrough

[Anonymous No.10809131]

>>10808370
its final fantasy IIX.

[Anonymous No.10809154]

>>10808809
So ultimately an item that lowers the difficulty of an already very beatable game.

>>10808939
Devs are after that extra playtime trying to induce the behavior, instead time pressure worked the other way and they got the behavior set you describe of 100%ing or even really paying attention to achievements on a first play. They wanted to engineering the power gaming buttbaby to be their buttbaby, too bad for them it's a powergamer and giving them everything they want is non-optimal....so they got power-gamed about it. Not sure if they're meeting the behavior halfway or just overestimated gamers.

[Anonymous No.10809162]

>>10808370
by accident

[Anonymous No.10809179]

>>10809154
The protect ring doesn't really worth the effort of doing the sidequest :
- Long Range is pretty expensive (16 AP).
- Mag Elem Null badly stacks with more useful capacities for Vivi (aside from Return Magic) and it's also fairly expensive (13 AP).
If you want to go in length for obtaining Half MP for all your mage characters, by any mean do it because that capacity is great but I'd argue that statwise the Protect Ring is not that great (halves all element damage, huge focus of phys./mag. evasion, some defense/Mdefense and +1 spirit by leveling-up for the minmaxing autists).

So no, the next time I'll play 9 - I might skip the entire brothers sidequest altogether since you can obtaining it while riding Choco, spending points in Chocobo Hot&Cold (it's about 8000 points or maybe a little more) and doing the Mognet sidequest. That shit was not necessary or it should have been a better reward to do this.

Because here the triggers for you:
>Start disc 4
>After the battle with Nova Dragon
>After you beat Marilith
>After you see the flashback of Alexander
>After you hear Zidane talking to himself
>After you see the flashback of Dagger getting on the boat
>After you hear about the giant eye in the sky
>After you beat Tiamat
>After you hear about the two planets
>After Quina thinks it is drowning
>After you hear the story about memories
>After you beat Kraken
>After you hear about Gaia's birth
>After you beat Lich
>After you hear about the story of the origin from nothingness
>After you enter the Crystal World
>After you beat Death Gaze

[Anonymous No.10809189]

>>10808563
Can't imagine how much of a soulless sperg you have to be to think like this.

[Anonymous No.10810436]

>>10809189
actually I'm twosoul shitlord

[Anonymous No.10810468]

>>10808542
Nigga, are you joking?
The final fantasy 7 strategy guide has a shit load of missing items and weapons, doesn't explain how the ultimate weapons power up and has an almost worthless beastiary.
Don't get me started on Final Fantasy 8's guide with their bullshit adamantoise entry.

[Anonymous No.10810478]

>>10808370
Back then, people weren't as weirdly uptight about using guides as the younger generation is now.

[Anonymous No.10810483]

>>10810468
>The final fantasy 7 strategy guide has a shit load of missing items and weapons
Didn't matter at the time. You don't know what you don't know, faggot

[Anonymous No.10810507]

>>10810483
>it doesn't matter if the guide that tells you everything about the game that we're charging actual money for is missing stuff
???

[Anonymous No.10810548]

>>10810507
I like the cut of your jib

[Anonymous No.10810549]

>>10810507
Uhh yeah?
I said "At the time"
There was no way to know if it was missing anything unless you found it in the game yourself, and then you didn't need the guide for it did you?

[Anonymous No.10810553]

>>10810549
>bruh it doesn't matter if the guide that claims to tell you everything about the game is missing stuff because you wouldn't know anyways
???

[Anonymous No.10810920]

>>10810548
if I wanted to read the guide online I would've just went on gamefaqs

[Anonymous No.10810935]

>>10810548
I feel like Square had big plans for the PlayOnline platform but fucked it up so bad that all it became was a universally hated launcher app for FFXI.

[Anonymous No.10810952]

>>10809131
It's VI+2 Nova Versus Crystallis 358/2 Days