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10794670 No.10794670 [Reply] [Original]

How does this game continue to remain popular after all this time?

>> No.10794678

>>10794670
It’s mechanics are well documented which makes it easy for new scrubs to get up to speed competitively. It’s also deep enough that an advanced player can always use his skill to win

>> No.10794763
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10794763

It's a solid fighting game and has Akiman Chun-li in it.
What more could you possibly want?

>> No.10794769

>>10794670
Because people memed themselves into thinking it's a good game after daigo luckshitted his way into a perfect parry string. In truth it has always been broken.

>> No.10794782

>>10794769
Every retro fighting game is broken. Don’t delude yourself. Get better at video games

>> No.10795665

>>10794769
Every fighting game is unbalanced Dunning Kruger anon

>> No.10795736

Outside of Japan, the enduring popularity is mostly among FGC people. The SFII games still vastly overshadow III and its iterations in terms of popularity among the general gaming populace.

>> No.10795807

>>10794670
Because people refuse to play the superior Street Fighter Alpha 3 because they’re put off by its cartoonish aesthetic.

>> No.10795809

unique gameplay among fighters and cult FGC moments

>> No.10796192

>>10794769
>>10794782
>>10795665
The most balanced game is SF1

>> No.10796202

>>10794670
Good graphics.
Catchy music.

That's it.
That's all the reasons.
If you removed Ryu, Ken, and Chun-li from the cast it wouldn't even be regarded as a Street Fighter game.

>> No.10796205

>>10794782
Not to the level of Third Strike.
The game has a very defined top tier and players delude themselves into thinking there's some bigger accomplishment in getting to winner's final and losing with a low tier than there is in winning the actual tournament.

>> No.10796208

>>10795665
This is just cope and reductionism. Third Strike has the least variety among tournament winning character selections of any major Capcom fighting game that has been around for the least two decades.

>> No.10796228

>>10794670
it's fun to play, good game feel for the fighterheads. also sweet sprites and nice music.

>> No.10796232

It was the closest Street Fighter had to come to being good until they made SF6. The responsiveness and slick animations made things so fluid it felt good just to move around. The top tiers aren't broken in ways that narrow the playing field to them exclusively, they play the game better instead of defining the game. The major issues with Chun/Yun/Ken could have been fixed with some adjustments to super meters and damage. Absolutely the Street Fighter that could benefit the most from getting just *one* more revision, but sadly Japan is addicted to shit-tier waifus instead of good girls like Makoto.

>> No.10796237

>>10796232
had come to being good*

>> No.10796269

>>10796205
Literally mind broken and delusional scrub. Play any SNK fighter, it’s the same. Play the game and overcome your lack of skill. You just suck and don’t want to practice. You can’t just pick up a controller and meme yourself into being Daigo.

>> No.10796273

>>10796208
Even CvS2?

>> No.10796340

>>10796269
You're coping.

>>10796273
By nature of being a team game you get a little more variety, but yeah A-Groove Dictator reigns supreme. It's very depressing to see players kidding themselves into getting very "skilled" at that game only to have BAS come in and slaughter them with the same broken paint-the-fence A-Dic bullshit 20 years down the road of the game being released.

>> No.10796347

>>10796232
>Absolutely the Street Fighter that could benefit the most from getting just *one* more revision
The 3S community rejected this offer from Capcom.

>> No.10796373

Evo 2023 - Chun-li
Combo Breaker 2019 - Chun-li
Combo Breaker 2022 - Ken
Combo Breaker 2023 - Chun-li

CEO 2022- Chun-li
CEO 2023 - Chun-li
East Coast Throwdown 2022 - Chun-li
Cooperation Cup 2018 - Chun-li
Cooperation Cup 2019 - Ken
Cooperation Cup 2023 - Chun-li

>> No.10796420

>>10796347
Once Online Edition hit the scene the game had settled and they were already split between 3S and the unstoppable SF4 hype train. If they got a revision so much later all it would do is split their already marginal player base. I understand the critique but it's a different situation from the idea of Capcom dropping a 4th Strike in the year 2001.

>> No.10796440

>>10796420
Nah, they just fucked up.

>> No.10796442

>>10796420
yeah agreed. it's never as simple as 'just update the game bro'

>> No.10796449
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10796449

>>10796202
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5qfryTQdvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csJPJt_E6GQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWTG-aUrKmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gllx-jMc34c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtYkTU_Zdao

>> No.10796463
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10796463

I don't know how capcom still hasn't created a definitive version of 3 with all stages, music and allowing you to select different versions of the characters

>> No.10796465

its fun and has a cool style
if you dont get why, you arent masculine

>> No.10796498

>>10796340
To be fair, while A-Groove Dictator, Sakura, Blanka are broken (despite having some solid competition on the tier list) it's just BAS that's on another level compared to everyone else. Otherwise you'd also see A-Groove in second and third place, and that's often not the case.

>> No.10796761

>>10794670
Graphics and animation are god tier, OST is very cool too. I prefer the Alpha series for gameplay though.

>> No.10796764

>>10796498
There's another guy almost as good as BAS who also dominates with A-Dictator. Last CVS2 tournament I watched from Japan grand finals was the two of them against each other.

>> No.10796770

>>10796463
Or even a fan hack that adds the 2I and NG stages back in to 3S. Must be fairly complicated.

>> No.10796773

I mean is extremely good to be forgotten, the question is why they don't give more support online, even if 30th anniversary collection exist would be better if is his own thing.

>> No.10796778

>>10796232
i really hope you're not implying slime rush simulator 6 is good lmao

>> No.10796815

>>10796773
meanwhile 3rd strike is literally main stage at evo this year. the game is far from forgotten.

>> No.10796880

Went through some ST tournaments to look at the character variety.

[name of tournament] [1st place/] [2nd place]

Evo 2016 - Cammy (SilentScope) - Honda (KillerMiller)
Evo 2017 - Dhalsim (ElTrouble) - O. Sagat (UltraCombo)
Evo 2018 - Dictator (RenoMD) - Ryu (Tomo-Japan)
Evo 2019 - O. Sagat (NakanoSagat) - Dictator (RenoMD)

Evo 2022 - Boxer (SuperrV) - O. Ryu (ChoiBoy)
EVO 2023 - O. Sagat (ChoiBoy) - Ken (Makiri)
CEO 2018 - Chun-li (Onuki) - O. Ryu (Damdai)
CEO 2023 - Claw (Mao) - O. Sagat (Muc)
CEO 2022 - O. Ryu (Damdai) - Boxer (SuperrV)
Combo Breaker 2018 - Boxer (Klimax) - Blanka (Bonki)
Combo Breaker 2019 - Fei-Long (JigglyNorris) - Boxer (Munn3y)

Combo Breaker 2023 - Claw (Mao) - Claw (Hokuto)
Frosty Faustings 2022 - Ryu (RoyBisel) - Dictator (ThatArchVillain)
Frosty Faustings 2023 - Cammy (PsychoTronic) - Fei-long (Jac Tiaf)
Frosty Fausings 2024 - Claw (Hokuto) - O. Ken (Yuuki)
East Coast Throwdown 2023 - O. Sagat (BAS) - Boxer (Comeback386)
Texas Showdown 2019 - Chun-li (Cvital) - O. Ryu (Enforcer)
Texas Showdown 2022 - Dhalsim (Cvital) - O. Sagat (SpryteMix)
Texas Showdown 2023 - Claw (Hokuto) - Chun-li (CVITAL)
Canada Cup 2016 - Ken (Mattsun) - Honda (Kusumondo)
Canada Cup 2017 - Ken (Mattsun) - Honda (Kusumondo)
Canada Cup 2018 - Chun-li (Onuki) - Dee Jay (AfroLegends)

>> No.10798014

>>10794670
It's good.

>> No.10798148

>>10794670
does this one have those stupid tag-team systems?
those shitty fighters are the only ones my friends play and i hate that style.

>> No.10798160

>>10798148
Nah it’s just 1v1

>> No.10798381

>>10796880
I really love the SF2 Honda players
always root for them
unless there's also a Zangiefchad

>> No.10798840

Fightcade 2 breathe new life into it but personally, 3RD STRIKE youtube is what is helping it keep my interest. It's amazing getting new top player matches from Japan daily and it's still super fun to watch.

>> No.10798954

>>10794769
This, the Daigo parry video made this game popular during SF IV times.
It's a good game but upon release it wasn't given much attention.

>> No.10799369

>>10798954
Spoken like a true fg secondary

>> No.10799373

>>10799369
nothing he said was wrong
calling daigo's parry "luckshitting" is more secondary than anything. daigo didn't even win that set after that.

>> No.10799404

>>10799373
3rd Strike has always had a steady following in Japan and that's one of the main foundational reason to the continued popularity for the entry. It has also enjoyed its presence in GGPO, years before SFIV's release. "Daigo is the reason 3rd strike is popular" is a brainless and reductionist, much like the "3rd strike is the reason why Street Fighter died" boomer meme.

>> No.10799406

>>10799404
so basically if you weren't a yellow blooded jap then you're a 3d strike secondary. that's all i take from your post.
you can fall in love with 3rd strike because of daigo's "luckshitting" or because some jap travelled overseas and started pulling some aegis reflector unblockable shit for the first time on american soil. it doesn't make you a secondary. it makes you an american 3rd strike fan.

>> No.10799414

>>10799406
>It has also enjoyed its presence in GGPO, years before SFIV's release.
>so basically if you weren't a yellow blooded jap then you're a 3d strike secondary.
I suggest taking more than 3 minutes to read and comprehend.

>> No.10799428

>>10794769
>daigo luckshitted his way into a perfect parry string
Lmao. Retard.

>> No.10799925

>>10799369
Try being born earlier

>> No.10800138

>>10799925
Try actually playing games

>> No.10800214
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>>10794670
1. The sprite work (especially for 3S additions, which includes Chun) is some of Capcom's best due to the insanity that CPS3 allowed for. The character designs themselves were mostly peak Capcom firing on all cylinders, especially since NG was originally a new IP until Ryu & Ken were stapled onto it which lead to designs that broke out of the mold 2 & Alpha set.
2. The OST is iconic and ironically fit perfectly with the vibe of the western FGC of the early 00s.
3. Parries became an iconic part of the game not just because of LET'S GO JUSTIN but because of the incredible audiovisual feedback they had and how the 10f window made it much more reasonable for a middling player to get one off regularly.
4. Other mechanics became staples in later SFs like EXs, selectable options after picking your character (SAs, then -isms, then Ultras, then V-System). Even then nothing quite did what SF3 did in terms of meter management given the varying lengths and stacks of meters while EXs always cost the same amount, and no other game really does Stun like SF3 either.

I do think its lack of balance gets understated and I generally prefer the aesthetics of 2I to 3S (better stages, better UI, OST almost as good but nowhere near as lauded) but it's the definition of a cult classic. Plus I have no high ground here as a fan of Alpha 2/3 and CvS2 because any variation of Custom Combo is fucked up and those games all have it and characters that abuse the fuck out of it. If 3S or even 2I was the first taste of SF3 it would've probably done decently (CPS3's small run notwithstanding) but New Generation sucked ass and poisoned the well, so only the hardcores go into 3S and introduced it to the masses via EVO Moment 37.

>> No.10800634

(Play third strike) it's a good game. I wish I wasn't stuck with a shitty wifi so I can TSKNN play right now.

>> No.10800673

>>10796880
I added to this list

Evo 2016 - Cammy (SilentScope) - Honda (KillerMiller)
Evo 2017 - Dhalsim (ElTrouble) - O. Sagat (UltraCombo)
Evo 2018 - Dictator (RenoMD) - Ryu (Tomo-Japan)
Evo 2019 - O. Sagat (NakanoSagat) - Dictator (RenoMD)

Evo 2022 - Boxer (SuperrV) - O. Ryu (ChoiBoy)
EVO 2023 - O. Sagat (ChoiBoy) - Ken (Makiri)
Star Cup 2006 - Ken (Aniken) - Dhalsim (Hakase)
Star Cup 2007 - Boxer (Tsuji) - Ryu (Futachan)
Star Cup 2008 - Claw (ARG) - Dhalsim (Gian)
Star Cup 2009 - Chun-li (Otochun) - Claw (ARG)
Star Cup 2011 - Claw (Mao) - Hawk (Hiroyan)
Evo Japan 2020 - Dee Jay (Haji) - Claw (Opemai)
X-mania XVI Solo - Dictator (Murasaki) - Boxer (Alabama)
X-mania III Solo - Dhalsim (KKY) - Ryu (Tencho)
X-mania IV Solo - Ryu (ShootingD) - Guile (Muteki)
CEO 2018 - Chun-li (Onuki) - O. Ryu (Damdai)
CEO 2023 - Claw (Mao) - O. Sagat (Muc)
CEO 2022 - O. Ryu (Damdai) - Boxer (SuperrV)
Combo Breaker 2018 - Boxer (Klimax) - Blanka (Bonki)
Combo Breaker 2019 - Fei-Long (JigglyNorris) - Boxer (Munn3y)

Combo Breaker 2023 - Claw (Mao) - Claw (Hokuto)
Frosty Faustings 2022 - Ryu (RoyBisel) - Dictator (ThatArchVillain)
Frosty Faustings 2023 - Cammy (PsychoTronic) - Fei-long (Jac Tiaf)
Frosty Fausings 2024 - Claw (Hokuto) - O. Ken (Yuuki)
East Coast Throwdown 2023 - O. Sagat (BAS) - Boxer (Comeback386)
Texas Showdown 2019 - Chun-li (Cvital) - O. Ryu (Enforcer)
Texas Showdown 2022 - Dhalsim (Cvital) - O. Sagat (SpryteMix)
Texas Showdown 2023 - Claw (Hokuto) - Chun-li (CVITAL)
Canada Cup 2016 - Ken (Mattsun) - Honda (Kusumondo)
Canada Cup 2017 - Ken (Mattsun) - Honda (Kusumondo)
Canada Cup 2018 - Chun-li (Onuki) - Dee Jay (AfroLegends)

>> No.10800676

Good graphics, good gameplay, good sound design.