/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10791740]

>sonic's newest game re-releases on nintendo a mere few months after sega discontinued console production

How did people react when this happened?

[Anonymous No.10791756]

Most Sega fans I knew didn't hate Nintendo, and those who didn't like Nintendo just accepted it I guess, but I always got the impression those who went full hate for Nintendo didn't like video games for the ludo aspect, and more as a sort of personality trait, hence the whole Mature gaming thing of the 2000s onwards. Those who were like that and latched onto Sega before just said fuck it and continued playing Mature games on PC or PS2.
Actual video game fans were playing on all consoles if possible. And if they didn't own a GC at least they wanted a GBA (where Sonic Advanced was released, before SA2)
What linda shocked me was the Mega Collection. Having the classic Sonics on Nintendo Home console really was a sort of memorable moment nobody imagined before.

[Anonymous No.10791769]

I'm a 3rd worlder so I wouldn't know but it was probably crazy. Like opening up Steam one day and seeing Metroid Prime trilogy on there

[Anonymous No.10791773]

>>10791740
I never owned a Dreamcast but I knew about the Adventure games and wanted them so I was super hyped for these. Still one of my most played GCN games to this day

[Anonymous No.10791808]

As a Nintenchad it felt a bit like how I imagine conquerors feel when they kill the enemy king and takes the prince as their new onahole

[Anonymous No.10791814]

The Sonic vs Mario beef was during the 90s. Not 2002

[Anonymous No.10791817]

>Nintenchad
>still got obliterated that gen

[Anonymous No.10791818]

>>10791814
Sonic had already lost at Mario 64

[Anonymous No.10791825]

>>10791818
More like they were fighting and then SSJ4 Goku showed and punched them both in the gut.

[Anonymous No.10791827]

>>10791825
oops forgot my picture of SSJ4 Goku

[Anonymous No.10791835]

I'd feel utterly humiliated if I were a Sega fan. Imagine if it happened with Nintendo instead and a Mario game became a Playstation exclusive for a time. Nintoddlers would seethe for all eternity.

[Anonymous No.10791837]

I really just wanted to talk about SA2:B, but oh well

[Anonymous No.10791841]

I thought it was cool because I liked Sonic and Mario

[Anonymous No.10791843]

>>10791835
>Imagine if it happened with Nintendo instead and a Mario game became a Playstation exclusive for a time.
I remember during the Wii U era when Sony fanboys on /v/ would spam photoshops of PS4s bundled with Super Mario 3D World or Mario Kart.

[Anonymous No.10791845]

>>10791837
it's shit

[Anonymous No.10791847]

>>10791835
>Imagine if it happened with Nintendo instead and a Mario game became a Playstation exclusive for a time
That almost happened, but we got Hotel Mario instead

[Anonymous No.10791848]

Is the Battle part of SA2 Battle any good?
Is it like Sonic Battle?

[Anonymous No.10791853]

>>10791848
Better character models and expanded 2P Mode but it's missing a few things like Big the Cat in cutscenes and VMU functionality is replaced with GBA functionality. Dreamcast version is easier to emulate anyway, or you could just get it on Steam with mods

[Anonymous No.10791860]

>>10791835
There was a minor meltdown when Horizon Zero Dawn happened and it keeps repeating whenever a PS game gets a PC port so you're not entirely wrong, just in the wrong direction.

[Anonymous No.10791864]

>>10791835
Sonic Lost World started as a Nintendo exclusive and they ended up porting it back to PC. Not even SEGA wants to be stuck on Nintendo anymore

[Anonymous No.10791867]

>nintenchad
cringe

[Anonymous No.10791869]

>>10791867
>>10791864
>>10791827
>>10791825
>>10791817
hello eric

[Anonymous No.10791872]

>>10791853
I thought it was actual battling

[Anonymous No.10791927]

>>10791872
Sorry I misread your post

There are racing stages for Sonic/Shadow (+ Amy and Metal), battle stages for Tails and Eggman (+ Chao and Dark Chao), and emerald hunting stages for Knuckles and Rouge (+ Chaos and Tikal). There is also a kart racer mode based on the Route 101 stages but unfortunately it's not as good as say SEGA All-Stars Racing, but it's still something

[Anonymous No.10791961]

>>10791740
I don't remember people caring that much. They were sad about Sega becoming a third party, not about their games going to one console or the other, although segafans seemed to be a little closer to xbox than the other brands.
Some people would mention the irony, but that was all.

[Anonymous No.10791970]

>>10791961
>although segafans seemed to be a little closer to xbox than the other brands

yakuza is the only sega franchise that anyone really cares about these days, and thats all playstation owners

and i guess football manager (steam)

[Anonymous No.10792062]

>>10791740
I dont think anyone really cared because kid me wasnt even aware of the games existence until it was on gamecube

[Anonymous No.10792073]

>>10792062
That's probably because there were only 6 months between its DC and GCN releases.

[Anonymous No.10792083]

>>10791970
He's talking about the early 2000's when we started getting stuff like JSRF, Crazy Taxi 3, Panzer Dragoon Orta etc. Also the fact that Microsoft helped with the Dreamcast (the Windows CE logo is literally on the console)

[Anonymous No.10792091]

>>10791756
Pretty accurate in my circles too

[Anonymous No.10792092]

>SA2 comes out on DC
>"Cool"
>Months later
>It comes out again on Gamecube
>"Cool, I guess I don't need a sega"

[Anonymous No.10792096]

Nintendo wasn’t the enemy then, Sony was. And personally, I didn’t care about Sonic at that point and didn’t mind seeing it on the autism platformer console. It probably hurt more seeing the JSR sequel exclusive to Xbox.

[Anonymous No.10792102]

>>10791756
>and more as a sort of personality trait
That's the vast majority of people who buy video games today. 90% of modern "gamers" are only in it because video games are trendy right now. You'll notice they'll only play what everyone is talking about. You'll never see the average person play a 20 year old game for the first time out of curiosity

[Chud Anon No.10792105]

>>10791740
I remember how it all happened. Someone on the internet found out about Sonic being ported to the GameCube. Then it exploded. Sega went on damage control and tried to silence everyone. People were burning their copies of SA2 on the streets. The police was everywhere. It was on TV 24 hours a day. Yuji Naka was forced to testify before congress. He said he knew everything and still let the game be released. People were throwing Sonic plushies at him when he left the court. He resigned from Sega that very day. The next day yen collapsed.

[Anonymous No.10792418]

>>10792096
>Nintendo wasn’t the enemy then, Sony was
t. zoomer who wasn't there. Fans of Sony and fans of Sega have always been united in their desire to knock Nintendo down a notch. This idea that they are on opposite sides is a modern fabrication by Nintendo fans to instigate infighting.

[Anonymous No.10792421]

>>10792418
Not really. Everybody blamed the PS2 for killing the Dreamcast. Nobody blamed Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.10792446]

>>10791869
I saw someone mention he makes threads on this board some time ago on /v/, I thought that person was schizoposting

[Anonymous No.10792465]

>>10792418
Shut the fuck up. You don’t know anything.

[Anonymous No.10792475]

>>10792418
According to Japanese fans, Sega has 3 enemies: Playstation, Bandai and Square.
I get PS (obilerated Sega in sales and market share) and Bandai (abandoned the original merge idea, eventually going with Namco), not sure why Square, maybe because they didn't release any games for Sega. Still the most hated company for Sega fans is Sony.
The company that sends the missile to the Sega HQ and kills Segara Sanshiro in his last commercial is supposed to be Sony.
I think something similar happens in Segagagaga?

[Anonymous No.10792497]

>>10792475
>I think something similar happens in Segagagaga?
to be fair, Segagaga also portrays the WESTERN BRANCH of Sega during the Genesis era as being a villain. So you know, if you liked Sega during that time period where they were on top of the world everywhere except Japan, you're now a villain.

[Anonymous No.10792521]

>>10792418
How come everytime someone says "you werent there zoomie", they say something completely untrue?
It cant possibly be the same guy every single time, right?

[Anonymous No.10792527]

>>10792521
his name is Eric, yes.

[Anonymous No.10792596]

>>10791740
I was to young to care. The gamecube had a lot of colorful kids games, Sonic fit right in.
I even had a genesis with a bunch of Sonic games but IPs and company ownership went completely over my head.

[Anonymous No.10793498]

>>10791740
I know a lot of people larp here or have very strong opinions on consoles that existed before their 1st birthday but
>It was weird to see sonic on a Nintendo console
>it was good that sega would still produce games and not just sell off all their IPs

[Anonymous No.10793513]

>>10791740
It hurt.

[Anonymous No.10794873]

From my POV, having grown up with Genesis and N64 for the most part and then getting a Gamecube, SA2B coming to Gamecube felt like the fucking shit. Then Gamecube and GBA both got a fuckton of Sonic content and it really just felt like a new dawn for Sonic and Sega. And then Heroes happened.

[Anonymous No.10794902]

>>10791740
i thought it was a new beginning of Sega becoming one of the most important 3rd party developers

[Anonymous No.10795613]

>>10791740
why no one bothered on decompiling sonic adventure?

[Anonymous No.10795761]

>>10794873
I would ask if you're me (especially since you posted that issue of NP, which was my very first one), except I also got a DC as well (so I played SA1, Shuffle, and SA2 before the GCN ones came out). Heroes was definitely terrible and turned me off playing Sonic games as a whole, too (good music, though).

[Anonymous No.10795813]

>>10791740
Can’t speak for everyone, but when I saw it was coming to GameCube in a magazine I was happy. I didn’t have a Saturn or Dreamcast and didn’t know anyone who did, but I had a Genesis with Sonic 1 - 3&K so this was my chance to play some more Sonic and see what I had been missing. Between the rank hunting and Chao garden it was an amazing purchase that kept me entertained for hundreds of hours.

[Anonymous No.10796813]

>>10791740
Not my problem.

[Anonymous No.10796894]

>>10791740
All I remember was people playing it, don't think anyone really cared at that point. The hardcore sonic fans from the 4th gen console wars were probably already put off by Sega's antics and the lack of a real 5th gen Sonic game.

At that point, at least for me, it was more the ability to still play sonic games, it showed that sonic could continue without sega consoles. Ended up being for better or (mostly)worse but at the time it wasn't a bad thing with what led up to it.

[Anonymous No.10796967]

>>10791853
What kind of piece of shit toaster are you running if your computer struggles to run Dolphin in 2024?

[Anonymous No.10796998]

>>10791853
>Better character models
not really. they just made every character rounder (fucking up an intentional difference between sonic & shadow in the original) and made them crosseyed for whatever reason. the lighting is also fucked up, making every character look substantially darker

[Anonymous No.10797047]

>>10792497
the western branch was the villain during the mega drive era, and beyond. they were the ones obsessed with terrible peripherals and shit nobody bought, like the nomad, or the million different combine consoles. they completely drained the company, and then burned american retailers on the saturn, blocked 3 quarters of the consoles library from being localized (a thing stolar also did when he worked with sony until capcom threatened them with making their games saturn exclusives), and then blamed sega of japan for it all, because americans are self-centered and unable to take responsibility for their actions.

[Anonymous No.10797059]

>>10791740
Same with sonic advance. It came out at the same time sa2 battle. Basically signifying that Mario won. This was further implied when sonic went to Mario's Olympic games.

[Anonymous No.10798131]

>>10791740
my reaction was not buying it on Gamecube because I already owned it for Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.10798141]

>>10794873
I remember getting this exact magazine, and like you I also owned a Genesis and N64 growing up. I liked Heroes though

>>10796813
Very nice

>>10796967
I'm on a Chromebook, it can handle some GameCube but struggles specifically with SA2 and some of the other more demanding games

[Anonymous No.10798502]

Sega capitulated to other video game console companies after acknowledging the reality that the Dreamcast was not financially successful enough to warrant creating a new console.

[Anonymous No.10799934]

>>10797047
Nooo but I've read a (((Kalinske))) interview and he said he was the good guy!

[Anonymous No.10800289]

>>10797047
>the million different combine consoles
The 32X was the JP branch's idea, but I will agree that it should have been shot down since the American branch did go along with it.

>and then burned american retailers on the saturn
Forced by the JP branch, the reason retailers got burned was because it was a kneejerk last minute move that SoA was not at all planning on making. They were planning a big "Saturnday" launch months later for a reason, you don't just randomly go back on that without some idiot breathing down your neck.

>blocked 3 quarters of the consoles library from being localized
True. Stolar was hellbent on driving SoA into the ground, but that was after Kalinske quit.

>because americans are self-centered and unable to take responsibility for their actions.
What a funny way to frame a revisionist post.

[Anonymous No.10801459]

I was too young to know about any console war. My cousin got it and I was happy that that Dreamcast game I liked was also one the Cube. We played the Battle mode a lot.

[Anonymous No.10802926]

SA2B was THE game for me and my school buddies.

[Anonymous No.10802940]

>>10792418
t. desperately-reaching Sony fanboy manchild

>>10801459
Same. I remember learning about the PS1 when I only had a Genesis in the mid-90s, and thinking it sounded awesome. Same with things I always heard about the SNES. I don't even remember a definite console war until 6th gen happened, so it must've just been older kids "fighting" one before that. I had both a DC and a GC, in that order.

[Anonymous No.10803156]

>>10791740
No one cared at that point. Sonic Adventure 2 literally just came out on Dreamcast and people didn't want to play it again.

Now SONIC ADVANCE was the shit. Sonic on a Nintendo HANDHELD? After the Game Gear took a shit? The boomers loved it, as most magazine writers were 20 year olds who played the Genesis games in their teens

[Anonymous No.10804920]

Vive y aprende

[Anonymous No.10806295]

I got an A rank on Escape from the City. Congratulate me.

[Anonymous No.10806353]

>>10791740
Did anyone really care though? If there were any autists who were distraught it was even harder to notice back then as there was no youtube for them to cry on. At the time I just thought it was awesome to be able to play it on the cube.

[Anonymous No.10806369]

When I saw this game being sold on the Gamecube, I bought every copy I could afford (about 200 of them), and then I burned all of them in a bonfire to show my contempt for sega. How DARE they defile my precious Nintendo with their filthy shegetz hedgehog. How DARE they think they have any right to pollute my console with their filth. How DARE they think sonic belongs on a Nintendo system.
How dare they.
I pored so much gasoline on those discs that the initial explosion almost killed me, but when I woke up in the hospital and they told me about the utter ruin that befell those sonic discs, I was happy. I could've died that night, and I would've been happy.

[Anonymous No.10806394]

>>10806369
t. upset Sega fanboy