/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10785734]

Is Mario very small and grows to normal size when he gets a mushroom, or does the mushroom make him a giant?

[Anonymous No.10785738]

>>10785734
I've always seen it as normal size, and little Mario as "weak" or "wasting away" even though you do indeed start the game as little Mario, so maybe your latter point is true. The world may never know anon.

[Anonymous No.10785742]

Also, does his dick increases in size?

[Anonymous No.10785745]

>>10785734
I imagine he's a manlet by default and super mushrooms upgrade him to a basic dateable height (say 6'2")

[Anonymous No.10785747]

Manual says that the mushroom form is the titular "Super Mario"

[Anonymous No.10785752]

>>10785734
In newer games, tiny Mario looks like a midget and have a higher pitched voice.
He probably uses shrooms as a doping to look like a normal human and be appealling to Peach.

He WAS a normal human once in Donkey Kong and Mario Bros but warping through pipes probably damaged his body permanently.
Hence why he also started looking more and more like a cartoon.

[Anonymous No.10785769]

>>10785734
Fungus changes what size he is

[Anonymous No.10785779]

If you actually beat SMB you would know the answer.

[Anonymous No.10785780]

>>10785734
>small in Donkey Kong
>small in Mario Bros
>starts out small in Super Mario Bros
Small is his official normal size.

[Anonymous No.10785794]

>>10785747
That doesn't answer the question

[Anonymous No.10785841]

>>10785734
He's small in Donkey Kong and Mario Bros.
Then he went to the Mushroom Kingdom, found mushrooms thak made him tall (Super Mario) and decided he was better off there, as one does.

[Anonymous No.10785857]

You all are forgetting that Mario is tall in Wrecking Crew, the latest game before SMB.

[Anonymous No.10786097]

>>10785734
What most people don't know is mario doesn't change size, the mushroom actually shrinks the entire world around him slightly, but it's only perceived by mario himself and shared with us is a window into his perception. It's depicting mario's very slight feeling of claustrophobia induced by the psychoactive substances in the mushroom

[Anonymous No.10786180]

>>10785780
>small in Mario Bros
No.

[Anonymous No.10786190]

The mushroom summons a mecha mini Mario pilots.

[Anonymous No.10786224]

>>10785745
Left: 5'11"
Right: 6'

[Anonymous No.10786317]

>>10785745
>Haha, born wrong, BORN WRONG!!!
>Ugh stop trying to work hard, or like, exercise humanity into things, you were BORN WRONG

[Anonymous No.10786390]

>>10785734
5'11 on the left
6' on the right
He's not actually bigger, the mushroom gives him enough self confidence to walk with better posture and survive hard hits (but if he's hurt he reverts back to virgin walk)

[Anonymous No.10786607]

>>10785734
after eating mushroom whole reality just gets smaller, Mario stays the same

[Anonymous No.10787478]

>>10785734
I suggest you see the game Mario Bros to see what his base state is

[Anonymous No.10787585]

Peach is 4 tiles tall, so Mario with the mushroom is the size of a regular person. Whether or not him being small is "normal" is another decision.

[Anonymous No.10787592]

>>10785734
on the title screens and intros he's always shown as super mario so i think he becomes smaller when he's hurt actually.

[Anonymous No.10787603]

>>10785738
That's the way I always perceived it too.

[Anonymous No.10787604]

>>10785734
There is official art of him taller then peach when super so small size is his normal height

[Anonymous No.10787619]

Nintendo has been very inconsistent with this. It especially becomes apparent in games where there's no mushroom power up like say the 3D Super Mario games. Like in those games is Mario supposed to be little Mario or Super Mario? We've seen evidence that it could be both.
Donkey Kong 94 also fucks with our perception of what Mario vs Super Mario is supposed to be. Same with some of the RPG games.f
So to answer your question, Nintendo doesn't care and goes on a game by game basis.

[Anonymous No.10787781]

>>10785752
The interns running Nintendo today have no idea and no say over real Mario lore. Newer games don't count.

[Anonymous No.10787794]

>>10786180
Wtf... I remember him being smaller.

[Anonymous No.10787856]

>>10785734
Aren't mushrooms that make you giant a thing in Alice in Wonderland? I figured it was based on that and that's why he's becoming giant size.

[Anonymous No.10787872]

>>10787794

[Anonymous No.10787952]

>>10787856
yes, but g*mers don't read and parents no longer make their kids watch that movie from 1951

[Anonymous No.10787953]

>>10787872
mario bros mario proportions are identical to non-super mario

you'll notice that mario bros koopa has infantile features - mario bros mario is literally murdering babies (thus justifying bowser's actions in super mario bros"

[Anonymous No.10788075]

>>10787794
> I remember him being smaller.

Childhood memories / Played one of the other ports maybe / when playing in 2p mode you can jump on other's players head and squish him for a second.

[Anonymous No.10788086]

>>10787856
Miyamoto denies that he took inspiration from Alice and there's really no reason for him to do so even if he did.

[Anonymous No.10788192]

>>10787953
The Mario Bros koopas are actually closer to how they look in the later games with the more rounded features and proportionately smaller shells. Even the koopas that are bigger than Mario have similar features, so it has nothing to do with age or even size. The different look in SMB is really just the stylistic result of having more pixels to work with, but they're the same creatures.
The floor bricks and pipes are also proportionately the same size when factoring in the 75% scale of Mario Bros. There are probably other things but I'm running low on autism for the day. However, I will concede that fireballs are 8x8 in both games, so they would be proportionately bigger in Mario Bros (I honestly don't know how to explain this), and the POW blocks are bigger than the question mark blocks in SMB.

[Anonymous No.10788201]

>>10788192
The fireballs are bigger because the gaseous air in the sewers of Brooklyn

[Anonymous No.10788360]

>>10785779
This might be true but I wouldn't know since I beat the game with save states.

[Anonymous No.10788364]

>>10788360
ydbtg

[Anonymous No.10788372]

>>10785747
>manual
Obviously canon

[Anonymous No.10788423]

For me it's flacid Mario

[Anonymous No.10788445]

In the anime movie it makes him grow.

[Anonymous No.10788451]

>>10785734
According to the Smash games, small Mario is the default as proven by both his taunt and the Super Mushroom item.

[Anonymous No.10788462]

>>10788372
The evil spell makes them telling you gtfo to another castle. The other information is pretty much on point.

[Anonymous No.10788604]

explain giant land

[Anonymous No.10789714]

The "Small Mario" sprite is quite clearly based on Mario in Donkey Kong. So, small is normal.

[Anonymous No.10789726]

I loved squashing turts

[Anonymous No.10789798]

>>10789714
>The "Small Mario" sprite is quite clearly based on Mario in Donkey Kong. So, small is normal.
There never was a Mario in Donkey Kong. The character you think is Mario is actually named Jumpman.
Also, don't you think it's kinda racist for the Japanese to make a video game featuring a gorilla that steals women, presumably so he can sexually assault them?
Does BLM know about Donkey Kong?

[Anonymous No.10790093]

>>10789798
Nice reddit post.

[Anonymous No.10790939]

>>10789714
Likely a coincidence, but the flyers also call him "Little Mario"

[Anonymous No.10791285]

Bowser uses magic to shrink and weaken his enemies, the mushroom just restores them to their original size and heals them. Peach was also shrunk, which is why she was smaller than regular Mario.

[Anonymous No.10791297]

>>10791285
Peach is smaller than Mario because men are taller than women.

[Anonymous No.10791306]

>>10788604
Everything is on mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.10791334]

In terms of game development, Super Mario was the original and Small Mario was added later. Peach's sprite in SMB1 seems to be in scale with Small Mario, although her SMB3 sprite seems to be in scale with Super Mario.

[Anonymous No.10791939]

Mario was a kid in Donkey Kong.

[Anonymous No.10792356]

>>10791939
that means Pauline was a pedophile

[Anonymous No.10792380]

>>10785734
What if Mario is hitting Princess Toadstool doggy-style. Like really giving it to her good, pussy gushing because that greasy Italian-bastard is a manly man, then he pops a mushroom and his cock gets twice as big and Princess Toadstool starts cumming ahahaha can you imagine? I bet Mario would think it's strange that she could handle it but then later talking with Luigi he would inform him that she probably fucks dogs and is used to getting knotted. Ahahaha

[Anonymous No.10792470]

Mushroom doesn't make him a giant, unless Peach is also a giant.

[Anonymous No.10792494]

>>10792470
Wait. Yoshi's arms are orange?? What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.10792501]

>>10792494
yes for some reason
it was corrected in SMA2.

[Anonymous No.10792518]

>>10792356
They were both teenagers getting into mischief at the local zoo.

[Anonymous No.10792519]

>>10792494
Those are the part of the saddle

[Anonymous No.10793084]

>>10792519
Why did they correct it in SMA2 then? That's like painting the Mona Lisa and forgetting that her ears are ears so you paint a new version with hair-colored ears. Nintendo are fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.10793092]

>>10788372
yes, the japanese manual is canon. but what you posted isnt.

[Anonymous No.10794116]

>>10792287
>>10789750
>>10790587
>>10790320
>>10785951
>>10789082

[Anonymous No.10794129]

he's the original, 30-year-old shota

[Anonymous No.10794175]

Isn't he "super" Mario in the 3D games? Which is even further confirmed by later 2D games having Small Mario be, well, actually Small.

[Anonymous No.10794473]

>>10794175
>later 2D games having Small Mario
Small Mario in NSMB is just Mario in big world like in SMB3 but without the camera zooming in.

[Anonymous No.10795574]

>>10791297
A lot of women are taller than men. Not exactly uncommon or are you confusing reality with Hollywood movies?

[Anonymous No.10795697]

Isn't Peach taller than him in the later 3D games? Don't ask for a screenshot, this is just how I remember it.

[Anonymous No.10797309]

>>10792287
>>10795223

>>10795859
>>10794712
>>10794258

[Anonymous No.10798847]

>>10785734
Neither. The mushroom just fucks with mario's perception of time and physical dimensions so he thinks he's huge.

[Anonymous No.10798941]

[Anonymous No.10799006]

>>10795697
Yes, Mario women in general are taller than the Mario men. Exceptions are Waluigi

(1/2)

[Anonymous No.10799008]

>>10799006
Wario is a big boy damn

[Anonymous No.10799009]

>>10795697
(2/2)

[Anonymous No.10799049]

>>10785780
Yes, this

[Anonymous No.10799834]

>>10792356
She could just be a really tall girl

[Anonymous No.10801680]

>>10785734
I think the "small" form is his normal form.

[Anonymous No.10802016]

>>10795574
There can be tall women, but generally men are taller.

[Anonymous No.10802053]

small mario is never in the ending sequences or artwork and he takes on a sort of chibi-ish look from SMW onwards, so I always figured he was cursed by Bowser and a regular mushroom just reverts him to normal.

[Anonymous No.10802113]

>>10787592
Sure about that?

[Anonymous No.10803090]

>>10799009
Waluigi looks as though he would be the tallest if his legs weren’t bent.

[Anonymous No.10803094]

>>10802113
He's at least twice the size of that goomba. When he's small, they're the same size.

[Anonymous No.10803954]

>>10786607
Yo Zaphron what's up?

[Anonymous No.10804046]

>>10792470
A man can dream...

[Anonymous No.10804062]

>>10787619
Mario 64 DS added a Super Mushroom power up that temporarily makes Mario bigger, and the Smash taunts used to show him growing and making the Super Mushroom sound. I think the idea was that small is default Mario and Super Mario is a power up.

[Anonymous No.10805045]

>>10785742
Yes obviously but people weren't obsessed with dick size back then so it would just be a fun quirk at most.

[Anonymous No.10805057]

>>10803090
Pic is scaled wrong, he should look smaller.

[Anonymous No.10805102]

>>10799009
>Mario is barely 1 meter tall
Damn...

[Anonymous No.10806232]

Peach in the New SMB games she's playable has her be little peach and the peach we know is Super Peach with the mushroom so yeah...
Nintendo is super inconsistent with this

[Anonymous No.10806452]

>>10805045
I'm sorry to disappoint you but yes they were

[Anonymous No.10806460]

>>10799006
>>10799009
Didn't someone measure heights years ago and determine that Rosalina was 7'7"?

[Anonymous No.10806463]

>>10806232
They call her Princess Toadstool because she's been getting high on her own supply.

[Anonymous No.10806503]

Big cocks were a big deal for centuries though. Hell, they preserved Rasputin's dick because they said "damn he's hung"

[Anonymous No.10806514]

>>10806503
And nowhere in your post did you say that having a big dick was a good thing.
I mean, realistically, what DOES penis size have to do with things like being successful in life, having lots of money, or not being on welfare and living in section 8 housing?

[Anonymous No.10806565]

>>10806514
Damn, haven't seen projection this clear since I saw Dune in IMAX

[Anonymous No.10806573]

>>10805045
idk what you're talking about. me and my friends spent a considerable amount of time arguing over who's dad had a bigger cock in 1985.

[Anonymous No.10806983]

>>10806460
The giant Rosalina measurement stems from Mario apparently having the official height of 5 feet.

[Anonymous No.10808403]

IN Mario Bros and Wrecking Crew, the camera is zoomed in because there's nothing bigger than Mario in those games. In Donkey Kong and SMB, the camera is zoomed out because his enemies are bigger than he is.

[Anonymous No.10808407]

>>10805045
>obviously but people weren't obsessed with dick size back then
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.10808424]

mario is normal size is super form. its toad who was done dirty in official art.

[Anonymous No.10808467]

the unassuming koopa

it looks innocent and harmless, but one single touch and you're fucking dead m8

[Anonymous No.10808602]

>>10802113
yeah, just look at luigi. they wouldn't make them different sizes and he's always been shorter than luigi.

[Anonymous No.10809210]

>>10808467
I think what really happens when Mario touches a koopa, is not that he actually dies, he just thinks it's so disgusting that he flees the field, like a woman who eeks at mouse

[Anonymous No.10810601]

>>10785734
mario is a manlet

[Anonymous No.10812159]

>>10785747
"Super" Mario is just a regular Italian-American. That's how great they are.

[Anonymous No.10812164]

>>10799009
I never played numario, who is this FUCK MACHINE?

[Anonymous No.10812167]

>>10812159
Have Nintendo every actually referred to him as an Italian-American? In every single game in which he has a voice he has a very clearly Italian accent, not Italian-American, the only times he's actually an American is in the movies and the cartoons

[Anonymous No.10812172]

>>10812164
That's Slaughterella, wife of Bowser. She was created by Magikoopas as a replacement for Peach when Bowser finally realized he'd never be able to kidnap her and keep her.

[Anonymous No.10812230]

Small Mario is regular Mario in SMB1, Super Mario is regular Mario in all other games that come after.
Just look at Peach, she's shorter than Super Mario in SMB1 but taller in every game after.

[Anonymous No.10812379]

>>10806573
Wh...why were you thinking about your dad's cock

[Anonymous No.10812681]

You all do realize Miyamoto based the mushroom/size buff concept from alice in right? What I want to know was, why did he choose mushrooms and not some other food?

[Anonymous No.10812695]

>>10812681
Also adding to this, why stars?

[Anonymous No.10812770]

>>10812164
https://www.mariowiki.com/Pauline

[Anonymous No.10812774]

>>10812164
https://www.mariowiki.com/Pauline

>>10812681
Miyamoto denies the Alice in Wonderland influence in an interview.

https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/wii/nsmb/0/3/

I think he just doesn't realize how much Alice in Wonderland subconsciously influenced the connection of mushrooms and a fantasy realm, and doesn't realize that the only reason he made that connection is due to the popularity of Alice in Wonderland

[Anonymous No.10812861]

>>10812774
>I think he just doesn't realize how much Alice in Wonderland subconsciously influenced the connection of mushrooms and a fantasy realm, and doesn't realize that the only reason he made that connection is due to the popularity of Alice in Wonderland
He actually denied it because he’d be outed as someone who borrows ideas. Also afraid it would destroy the reputation of the eventual Mario movie they had planned. Remember, this is the same man who admitted they modeled ganondorf in OOT after Raoh from Fist of the Northstar. He’s never ever again going to admit he borrows ideas, and neither is his Japanese contemporaries.

Here’s the source for the Alice quote
https://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/11/25/miyamoto-was-inspired-by-alice-in-wonderland/

In before
>malstrom
He puts the original interviews as his source.

[Anonymous No.10812918]

>>10785734
Mario is the little one. It’s a similar sprite to the Mario Bros. arcade game. He becomes “Super Mario” when he touches a mushroom. For a more detailed picture, this is analogous to Master Roshi from Dragon Ball when he channels his power, only not as muscular.

[Anonymous No.10812923]

>>10812681
>THE MUSHROOM OF COURSE

[Anonymous No.10813076]

>>10806573
Interesting confession. I'd keep that to my myself