/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10776052]

1994 was the year where games started to massively decline in quality across the board. From a gameplay perspective, all of the acclaimed classics seen here suffer immensely compared to titles released not even a year prior. As a few examples:

>Doom II felt massively underwhelming, like a glorified expansion pack to The Ultimate Doom
>Tekken was a poor man's Virtua Fighter with none of the depth or intircacy
>Sonic 3&K's level design is a complete fucking joke compared to 1, 2 & even CD
>DKC is only fun if you plan on speedrunning it, otherwise it's a miserable experience
>Mega Man X2 tries and fails to strike lightning twice, the series basically died here
>Earthbound is a borderline shameless clone of Dragon Quest with braindead mechanics
>Super Metroid's controls alone make it a chore to play, map design sucks too
>System Shock 1 is only beloved by hipsters, and even they admit it has terrible gameplay
>Streets of Rage 3 is a disgraceful downgrade even when ignoring the abysmal localization job
>Elder Scrolls Arena comes out and irreparably rapes PC gaming until the end of time

I could go on! Final Fantasy VI is a middle finger to fans of the previous games, Policenauts is somehow even worse than Snatcher. Killer Instinct is laughably atrocious. Not to mention all of the actual shovelware from this year like Shaq Fu, Primal Rage, Lion King and Pac-Man 2.

The few good games from 1994 are unfortunately never talked about: Umihara Kawase, Contra Hard Corps, Castlevania Bloodlines, Sparkster and Hagane have all been basically forgotten. Maybe it's for the best.

[Anonymous No.10776054]

Wrong

[Anonymous No.10776056]

>>10776054
/thread

[Anonymous No.10776059]

[Anonymous No.10776062]

>>10776052
First bad year in video games. People think games only started stagnating in 2007 but it was actually 1994.

[Anonymous No.10776082]

Generalizing the state of something by just a single year is such a basic bitch small brained retard faggot redditor Kotaku writer basedboy cuck small penis beta incel thing to do.

Touch grass dilate seethe cope kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10776086]

>>10776082
Calm down.

[Anonymous No.10776134]

>>10776052
>decline
They had never even really reached peak quality. Let's be real, the PS2 is when gaming really started to become great, and the explosion in popularity and sales reflect that.

[Anonymous No.10776216]

>>10776082
honestly this. that's all there's to say on the matter. end of thread.

[Anonymous No.10776231]

1994 was a decline of quality, but not for the stupid and highly questionnable reasons OP listed.

The only reason is because it's the year the NES and Famicom lost support.

[Anonymous No.10776427]

>>10776052
Did you really had to write a whole bible to tell us that you are gay?

[Anonymous No.10776508]

>>10776052
UFO: Enemy Unknown
Darius Gaiden
Puyo Puyo 2
Contra: Hard Corps
Transport Tycoon

RayForce
Windjammers
Live-A-Live
NBA Jam: Tournament Edition
Donkey Kong GB

Eastern Mind
Heretic
Wild Guns
Alien vs. Predator
Policenauts

The Ninja Warriors
Master of Magic
Umihara Kawase
Samurai Shodown II
Monster World IV

Kirby's Dream Course
Tie Fighter
Road Rash
Dynamite Headdy
Shin Megami Tensei II

Demon's Crest
The Incredible Machine 2
Super Bomberman 2
Under a Killing Moon
Mega Man V

Breath of Fire II
Wario Land
Super Punch-Out!!
Descent
Marathon

Tokimeki Memorial
Earthworm Jim
Bust-A-Move
Fantastic Journey
Beneath a Steel Sky

Colonization
Virtua Fighter 2
Little Big Adventure
Crusader of Centy
Beyond Oasis

Jazz Jackrabbit
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
Blackthorne
Battletoads (ARC)
Ancient Domains of Mystery

Darkstalkers
Sim Tower
Robocop Versus The Terminator
Mickey Mania
DreamWeb

Killer Instinct
Tempest 2000
Virtua Cop
Street Hoop
Mutant League Hockey

X-Men: Children of the Atom
Sparkster (SNES)
Powered Gear
Panorama Cotton
King's Field

The Firemen
King's Quest VII
Maximum Carnage
Pulseman
Triple Trouble

Tower of Doom
Quest for Glory
Geo Storm
One Must Fall: 2097
Gunbird

Legend of Kyrandia III
Wario's Woods
Ecco: The Tides of Time
Biker Mice from Mars
Micro Machines 2

[Anonymous No.10776525]

>>10776508
opie absolutely btfo out

[Anonymous No.10776546]

>>10776054
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.10776548]

>>10776052
> Super Metroid's controls alone make it a chore to play,
default does suck. shoot y, jump b, dash x or a makes it feel normal.
> map design sucks too
it's arguably one of the best 2d worlds ever created. do you even like video games?

[Anonymous No.10776565]

>>10776548
all i do is switch wpn select to Y and wpn cancel to select

but i got a pretty long thumb. i keep the ball of my thumb on B to run, pretty much always, shoot is on X with the tip, then i can roll my thumb left/right for wpn select and jump, respectively
works for me

[Anonymous No.10776710]

>>10776052
>Doom II felt massively underwhelming, like a glorified expansion pack to The Ultimate Doom
Ultimate Doom came out after Doom 2 and included Thy Flesh Consumed. I know what you mean and while I agree that Doom 1 is generally the better game, Doom 2 is still top tier.
>DKC is only fun if you plan on speedrunning it, otherwise it's a miserable experience
How so? Besides speedrunning does not make a game more fun, in fact in my experience speedrunning makes me get sick of a game faster because instead of focusing on actually enjoying the game all I am doing is retarting over and over just to get one trick down. Speedrunning feels like a job that you don't even get paid for assuming you don't stream.
>Earthbound is a borderline shameless clone of Dragon Quest with braindead mechanics
By this logic Dragon Quest is a shameless clone of Ultima.
>Super Metroid's controls alone make it a chore to play, map design sucks too
Compare this game to Metroid 1 and 2. It's way more forgiving and fluid. This just sounds like you got filtered by the difficulty.

zoomer faggot

[Anonymous No.10776717]

>>10776052

[Anonymous No.10776724]

>>10776508

[Anonymous No.10776734]

>>10776710
>This just sounds like you got filtered by the difficulty.
The sad part is that Super Metroid isn't even difficult. It's arguably the easiest game in the entire series. Sure, having to hold down the run button for most of the game sucks, but you can remap all the controls and surely find something that works for you.

[Anonymous No.10776761]

>>10776054
fippy-bippy

[Anonymous No.10778451]

>>10776052
>posts System Shock probably the most incredible game for the time ever
not very convincing

[Anonymous No.10778524]

>>10776052
We get it, you're a massive fucking contrarian.

[Anonymous No.10778621]

>>10776052
>I could go on!
Please don't.

[Anonymous No.10778629]

>>10776052
Video games only started to get good after late 1998. Retro games are mostly junk mass entertainment for children.

[Anonymous No.10778672]

>>10778629
You're not wrong. The PS2 was where it really started.

[Anonymous No.10779669]

>>10776052
>& even CD
This alone tells you you're full of shit.
>Earthbound in any way ripping off Dragon Quest
Truly unfathomable.

[Anonymous No.10780016]

>>10776054
FPBP

[Anonymous No.10780085]

aww sweet! A contrarian thread!

[Anonymous No.10780091]

>>10776052
Technically, games started to decline when the ability to save was introduced. Prior to that, games were designed as arcade titles. Fast paced and challenging. After saves were introduced, you saw games gradually cast aside the arcade traditions for slower and more bloated experiences. The 2D era began to decline around 1994, and through that lens you are absolutely correct. It seems as though the limits of 2D gameplay had been reached by that point. People experienced platformers, shooters, fighting games and RPGs. Gaming needed 3D to survive past the 16 bit era, without it I think the sales of games would have continued to decline. Imagine a world where Halo was a 2D run n'gun. You'd probably be hard pressed to tell such a game apart from Contra, or Metal Slug, or Gunstar Heroes.

[Anonymous No.10780103]

>>10776052
> Super Metroid's controls alone make it a chore to play
Could you be more of a zoomer if you tried?

[Sage No.10780231]

>>10776052
Excuse me BASED GOD?!

[Anonymous No.10780371]

>>10776052
I can't really disagree with this. I find most of those games to be overrated. I don't like SNES though

[Anonymous No.10780832]

>>10776052
>Final Fantasy VI is a middle finger to fans of the previous games

What do you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10780872]

>>10776052
Op in picrel

[Anonymous No.10780874]

>>10776054
This, I wipe my ass with your opinions, OP.

[Anonymous No.10780875]

>>10776052
>I could go on
You shouldn't have, we all knew you were a zoomie faggot when we looked at the top left corner of your info graphic.

[Anonymous No.10780880]

>>10776052
Fascinating effortbait.

[Anonymous No.10780881]

>>10776052
>Doom II felt massively underwhelming, like a glorified expansion pack to The Ultimate Doom
Please explain how this is a bad thing though?
>Tekken was a poor man's Virtua Fighter with none of the depth or intircacy
You need to unironically take LTG's advice if you think VF is better than Tekken in any capacity
>Sonic 3&K's level design is a complete fucking joke compared to 1, 2 & even CD
Is that why you put it on the list three fucking times to pad it out?
>DKC is only fun if you plan on speedrunning it, otherwise it's a miserable experience
Yeah an experience so miserable that it nailed Sonic to a cross and singlehandedly started Sega's downfall before laying the framework for a sequel on par with Terminator 2 but go off
>Mega Man X2 tries and fails to strike lightning twice, the series basically died here
Yeah the series definitely died at X2, please ignore the six more mainline Mega Man X games and the JRPG
>Earthbound is a borderline shameless clone of Dragon Quest with braindead mechanics
Ask me how I know you're brain dead
>Super Metroid's controls alone make it a chore to play, map design sucks too
Ask me how I know you're brain dead
>System Shock 1 is only beloved by hipsters, and even they admit it has terrible gameplay
You've never actually played SS1 or met anyone who has. If anything, you've met the playtesters who thought Bioshock was too hard and had to be dumbed down and gutted for release
>Streets of Rage 3 is a disgraceful downgrade even when ignoring the abysmal localization job
Ask me how I know you're braindead
>Elder Scrolls Arena comes out and irreparably rapes PC gaming until the end of time
todd no please leave my anus alone
>I could go on!
please go on to your grave
>Final Fantasy VI is a middle finger to fans of the previous games
So what's your favorite Final Fantasy? I know it's not 2, 3, or 5 because you didn't play them in 1994, and 1 and 4 are dogshit in comparison to 6

I'm out of characters

[Anonymous No.10780896]

>>10776052
Which one is the second to last, that is written in japanese?

[Anonymous No.10780903]

>>10780896
Shin Megami Tensei II

[Anonymous No.10780907]

>>10780903
>Shin Megami Tensei II
thanx

[Anonymous No.10780912]

>>10776052
>Sonic 3&K's level design is a complete fucking joke compared to 1, 2 & even CD
Congratuations OP! With such a dogshit take like this, you're qualified to work for IGN!