/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10761282]

this cable existed back then and was officially supported.

[Anonymous No.10761284]

k

[Anonymous No.10761285]

Yea, for nerds.

[Anonymous No.10761286]

>SNES release date: 1990
>SVHS spec introduced: 1988
No one actually used this unless 1. they were turbo autistic about video connections (unlikely because only one existed before s-video (composite)) and 2. they actually had the money to buy a 2000 dollar high end TV with s-video in

[Anonymous No.10761294]

>nintendo builds Y/C signals into console's original multi-AV pinout
>n-no, you can't use those, they were only for rich nerds

[Anonymous No.10761307]

>>10761294
Well, they knew there were some rich nerds they could milk for not much extra.

[Anonymous No.10761313]

>>10761294
Correct, 99% of consumers did not use s-video.

[Anonymous No.10761315]

>>10761286
I had a friend that used this on his setup. Since this input was getting common in VHS players and they were cheaper than TVs he had the game going to the VHS player and then from the VHS regular RGB output to the TV.
It ended up looking the same on the TV but the tape recordings looked great (if you could bring them to someone who did have a TV with that input)
Kinda dumb but still fun, we asked him to record stuff since his would look better.

[Anonymous No.10761316]

>>10761307
>>10761313
in current year this is a self-inflicted limitation

[Anonymous No.10761320]

>>10761282
>this cable existed back then
Too bad you didn't, and didn't know about it until you watched a youtube yesterday.

[Anonymous No.10761323]

this too

[Anonymous No.10761325]

>>10761320
wrong, I bought my SNES in about '99 with one of these because my TV supported it

[Anonymous No.10763002]

>>10761325
That's impossible. the SNES was released in 1991, you can't have played it after the N64 was released. Your anecdote conflicts with these numbers I pulled from Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.10763014]

My parents bought a new Proscan 27" TV in '94 which was at the peak of the SNES and it had an S-video connector.

[Anonymous No.10763149]

>>10761286
>they actually had the money to buy a 2000 dollar high end TV with s-video in

Pretty sure S-Video was initially regulated to NTSC TV's that were larger than 25inch. My parents had a 27inch Panasonic TV from 1991 that had S-Video out. You didn't need a $2000.00 TV to have S-Video. I don't think you could find a TV smaller than 25inch that had an S-Video connection back then, unless it was a special case. Though it was eventually superseded by composite from about 1998 onwards.

[Anonymous No.10763154]

>>10763149
>My parents had a 27inch Panasonic TV from 1991 that had S-Video out.

S-Video in, not out. I mean.

[Anonymous No.10763164]

the C64 had S-video in 1982

[Anonymous No.10763223]

>>10761282
I was using RF right up to the mid 2000s

[Anonymous No.10763409]

>>10761325
What a bizarre larp

[Anonymous No.10763424]

>>10763409
It’s because it’s not a larp. Once I got into college and had a part time job I started buying consoles I didn’t have when I was a kid/teen

[Anonymous No.10763441]

>>10761286
Trinitrons in the early 90’s had s video. I have one.
>only one existed before s-video (composite)
Why are you lying? Eurogods were using rgb scart for a decade at that point.

[Anonymous No.10763458]

>>120871727
It technically did but with RCA plugs instead of the DIN connector and this was before the S-video standard had been created so the signal C64 puts out is not quite "correct" and causes issues with some TVs; it was meant to be used with Commodore 1702 monitors.

[Anonymous No.10763484]

No idea what this whole discussion is all about, just wanted to say we used SCART in the civilized world. Peace out

[Anonymous No.10763495]

>>10763484
SCART can carry many types of signals. Composite, luma/chroma (S-Video), RGB. Even component YPbPr is possible if you are an absolute madman.

[Anonymous No.10763501]

>>10763495
God fears my power

[Anonymous No.10763530]

>>10761286
Imagine thinking 200,000 yen was a lot of money in bubble Japan.

[Anonymous No.10763531]

>>10761323
>remove RGB out from N64
>put it back for GC but only in Europe
Nintendo, you absolute Jews.

[Anonymous No.10763543]

>>10763531
Wii is even wackier. The console supports composite, S-Video, RGB and component. The catch is that S-Video works only in NTSC and RGB works only in PAL. Those video signal share pins on Wii video out and the type of signal pushed through is controlled by game's video region. Trying to play NTSC games over SCART gives you completely red image since TV reads the R pin on SCART as R while the console feeds it either Y or C (don't remember exactly).

[Anonymous No.10763586]

>>10761316
I use it now, but at the time it was a small bonus for power users (who were likely to buy more games than an average player), not a key feature.

[Anonymous No.10763939]

>>10763495
>Even component YPbPr is possible if you are an absolute madman.
Are you sure about that?
I thought it would still need transcoding

[Anonymous No.10763954]

>>10763531
andt hen gc couldnt even do progressive scan in europe for some reason

[Anonymous No.10764307]

>>10763954
Is that PAL system?
Or PAL games?

[Anonymous No.10764329]

>>10763939
You'd need transcoding, but nobody is stopping you from transmitting a YPbPr signal over SCART. Some modern upscalers support such input.

[Anonymous No.10764350]

>>10764307
PAL system.
because in Europe we have gone from old CRTs with Scart sockets to LCD screens in HDMI. we didn't have the transition with the HD CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10764485]

>>10763939
You only need transcoding if you want to transcode. Your SCART cable doesn't care whether you want to or not.

[Anonymous No.10764735]

Meanwhile my twin famicom can output RGB

[Anonymous No.10764804]

>>10764735
Did you use a NES RGB kit or an RGB PPU?

[Anonymous No.10764814]

>>10764804
NES RGB

[Anonymous No.10764874]

>>10761282
This has literally been sitting in a desk draw since like 2007 and I never did figure out what it actually did. Guess I'm not autistic enough after all

[Anonymous No.10765337]

>>10761282
The S's in SNES stood for S-Video

[Anonymous No.10766414]

>>10761282
Nintendo did offer them, but lately there's been higher quality cables made by independent individuals. S-video was the high quality consumer connection back then as I remembered with Laserdiscs and SVHS players.

[Anonymous No.10766671]

I didnt use s-video until the gamecube and i thought it looked worse.

[Anonymous No.10766714]

Any legit ones out there? I recently got an ever drive for my n64 and got a trinitron with s video but I've heard all the cables on Amazon aren't real s video cables.

[Anonymous No.10766862]

>>10761286
>1. they were turbo autistic about video connections
that was me
>they actually had the money to buy a 2000 dollar high end TV with s-video in
$500

[Anonymous No.10766863]

>>10761313
I was part of the 1%.

[Anonymous No.10766871]

>>10764814
Was it difficult? I’m looking into getting a twin famicom and rgb modding it, alongside rgb modding my pvm,

[Anonymous No.10767252]

>>10766714
Just buy on ebay. Make sure you type in OEM.

I got mine for like $40. Will usually have the nintendo logo on it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/375275229354?itmmeta=01HRPMJ1R5NA1ECVZXPA6A28XN&hash=item57602590aa:g:Qj0AAOSwQvZh-shx&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8DME6V4b8FcOSOxywELPGfWtoKdo7ZJaov83w8s4j7Wd%2F5axEsWikNptC0W8Lz99U3sl%2F58RwExkjkvDFSWquD4y4XMLrlVV9dqOISs92F0NbcFfW3FnVHKRbAiQq4DrUuUuoRoiiRJmyLv85yxWd7C9EBCH11%2BUJnxwCLJGOIS6SKFIW%2Bz1gN%2BbSZtAiUlbKyJTq92rOTcDIVXzYr%2Bh0zyhEjMwPjn9%2FwOfGg5jqD4dgMpGgXVVs5A7CNVJpCwR%2B424%2BNWqoYpnnBbDbYwECWJP%2BMMSUsflwZFyAF6SHauDdaMSD62yAN6XYAPWFemz9w%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMqpzI1MVj

[Anonymous No.10767254]

>>10767252
Cheaper
https://www.ebay.com/itm/385034542268?itmmeta=01HRPMJ1R5NXKGBW0C8JWQ2JX4&hash=item59a5d8dcbc:g:0wYAAOSwwDxi5VXg&itmprp=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Lbo3130oT6sNBRxLgf74gTZE0%2BrMD%2FL9q2GscFxo3T8DEUi03l5KHBUq%2F5uooqkZ9gV3yXSlgICyXxDDU0GWNNWaU77hIafhlHeNOFaKcGOhHE360y7A6at3k1D%2BBhQBP1GXXbaz5Ev7%2B3EMfRTXw8rI90PIa5gj9PdWSMW0S2jDWeeZlG4Z5YV4JjNp%2B8cgpOh7L8mceTrQbVWwqUGtsXNTyNgWgmLc2%2B0v%2FAw2Zx%2FqvRwsKz5UA9tsNcc%2FWZDbXMZEuw3dvZDLyV7AhDMUUA%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6qcyNTFYw

[Anonymous No.10767635]

>>10767254
Thanks my man

[Anonymous No.10767757]

>>10766714
There's no sense in buying an official one honestly, for like 5$ the chinese ones are fine. You're never going to find a fake S-Video cable, I have no idea where people got this idea from.

[Anonymous No.10768670]

>>10767757
S-Video cables vary VASTLY in terms of quality. Same as component cables. Better to go OEM and guaranteed good quality than some bullshit fake cable that outputs composite.

Fun fact, if you see an s-video cable with a yellow composite cable its prob not worth using.

[Anonymous No.10768886]

>>10761282
>Nintendo makes an S-video cable for SFC
>can be used on N64
>can be used on GameCube
>Sega DOESN'T make an S-video cable for MD
>Sega DOES however, make an S-video cable for Sega Saturn
>Sega doesn't make an S-video cable for Dreamcast
Did Sega just have no interest in S-video at the time? Even Nintendo supported it better than they did.

[Anonymous No.10768889]

>>10768886
The VGA support on DC was a thousand times better.

I am using fucking component cables on my DC in 2024 its insane.

[Anonymous No.10768914]

>>10768886
There is an official Dreamcast S-video cable.

[Anonymous No.10768942]

>>10768886
The DC did have S-Video support but nobody bought it because any video format connoisseurs were too busy jerking off to the VGA support.

[Anonymous No.10769023]

>>10768942
Thinking back on it VGA was such a weird as standard. If the DC had released a year later they likely would have gone component since EVERYTHING supported component by 99.

[Anonymous No.10769026]

>>10769023
Thankfully there's a component cable now which works great and has a mode switch for sd/vga.

[Anonymous No.10769056]

>>10769023
Sega's chairman had an obsession with networking at the time. Connecting Dreamcast to a computer monitor over VGA fits the his concept of turning the console into a specialized computer for Internet activity.