No way all those sales were just because of the DVD capability.

[Anonymous No.10740693]

[Anonymous No.10740697]

Everyone had to buy at least two because they broke. I personally owned 3 during its lifespan.

[Anonymous No.10740703]

>>10740693
It looks like the Twin Towers.

[Anonymous No.10740706]

>>10740693
The PS1 sold over 100 million units solely on the back of its gaming capabilities, it stands to reason that an improved successor with weaker competition (in some markets) would sell even better.

[Anonymous No.10740718]

>>10740693
We have this thread every day

[Anonymous No.10740724]

>>10740706
>it stands to reason that an improved successor with weaker competition (in some markets) would sell even better.
Correct, that's also why the switch is doing so well.

[Anonymous No.10740726]

>>10740693
It was the cheapest DVD player around in many parts of the world when it came out, you under estimate how meaningful that was at the time and how much people were disappointed that the dreamcast did not not have it nor the gamecube.

[Anonymous No.10740731]

>>10740706
This post is too truthful for the morons of /vr/ so it will get ignored

[Anonymous No.10740736]

>>10740724
LOL

[Anonymous No.10740739]

I loved my Dreamcast ;_;

[Anonymous No.10740749]

who fucking cares
why is this important to zoomer retards

[Anonymous No.10740751]

>>10740706
Reminder that the redesigned PSOne slim console released in the summer of 2000 outsold both the Xbox and the Gamecube
It kept selling for a long time as a low-cost gaming system with loads of cheap games and easy-to-use modchips/modcarts

[Anonymous No.10740753]

>>10740697
SONY would never keep releasing defective products just to boost sales.
You are just a fanboy.

[Anonymous No.10740759]

>>10740706
The PS1 sold over 100 million units because of piracy, not because of gaming quality.

[Anonymous No.10740764]

>>10740697
>>10740753
The only time Mikami was ever right about anything.

[Anonymous No.10740768]

>>10740759
So why did the Dreamcast only sell 10 million units?

[Anonymous No.10740769]

>>10740749
>why is this important to zoomer retards

Because we care about numbers, grandpa.

[Anonymous No.10740773]

Extremely low quality thread. OP is a fag

[Anonymous No.10740774]

>>10740693
>only 10 million dreamcasts sold
>I own 1/10th of all dreamcasts that ever existed

[Anonymous No.10740791]

>>10740693
It wasn't JUST because of DVD but that played a role in early adoption and one thing about console sales is that it's self-perpetuating as more console sales translates to more games and more games translates to more console sales. And since the PS2 era was one where multiplatform became more commonplace, you could own just one console and be set. And for most of those people they went for the PS2. The DVD was a good head start to get that momentum going.

[Anonymous No.10740796]

>>10740774
You own a million Dreamcasts?

[Anonymous No.10740847]

>>10740697
I entered this thread knowing this picture would have been posted it

Didn't think it'd have been the first post though, I kneel

[Anonymous No.10740867]

>>10740706
Add to that the backwards compatibilty, making it so all PS1 owners could still play their favorite stuff on PS2 even if they sold their PS1, and the reasons to go from PS1 to any console other than the PS2 pretty much died out.

[Anonymous No.10740909]

>>10740693
FIFA 2001
FIFA 2002
FIFA 2003
FIFA 2004
FIFA 2005

Pro Evolution Soccer
Pro Evolution Soccer 2
Pro Evolution Soccer 3
Pro Evolution Soccer 4
Pro Evolution Soccer 5
Pro Evolution Soccer 6


there, I found how psx2 managed to sold 120 millions units

[Anonymous No.10740912]

>>10740768
no fifa

[Anonymous No.10740924]

>>10740909
Weird none of those were top sellers, gc cope sure is contrived

[Anonymous No.10740931]

>>10740759
Not true, otherwise Sega Dreamcast would have sold well. PS1 wasn't as easy to pirate without a modchip and even that was hard to come by. Also thanks for proving how poor you are.

[Anonymous No.10740935]

>>10740693
Dreamcast deserved better

[Anonymous No.10740937]

>>10740706
NOOOOOOO
The PS2 literally, LITERALLY ONLY SOLD BECAUSE IT PLAYED DVDs
AND THE PS1 LITERALLY ONLY SOLD BECAUSE OF PIRACY

[Anonymous No.10740943]

>>10740693
The "PS2 was just a DVD player" myth has been debunked countless times already. How many more times do we need to have this discussion? It was a news talking point meme that had no real actual real life relevance. Attach rates by themselves debunk the meme, as do availability timelines. By the time any normie could actually reasonably get their hands on a base price PS2, DVD players would have caught up in pricing points.

[Anonymous No.10740954]

be in 2001.
the PS1 player is out of service.
the Dreamcast is discontinued in January
Xbox and GC come out in November.

whether for players or developers, for 10 months the PS2 is the place to be.

We must also not forget the reliability of the players on the PS2, fat or slim.
a store near me was reselling new lenses for PS2.

[Anonymous No.10741028]

>>10740774
based retard

[Anonymous No.10741035]

>>10740726
>It was the cheapest DVD player around in many parts of the world when it came out
Here in the US you could get a standalone dvd player way cheaper than what a ps2 cost on launch. What did a lot for encouraging people to buy a PS2 is they didn't have to basically sell their PS1 games, they could just sell the PS1 and keep playing their games on PS2. Backwards compatability redefined this shit for so long that people were outraged when Sony stopped going it, and demanded it came back.

[Anonymous No.10741057]

>>10740726
And wheremst were they going to buy all of these super cheap PS2's at launch? Waiting in line overnight at the few stores that got 10-50 of them? Buying it off of Ebay at a 10x markup? From the stores it sold out in across the nation? There were around 70M PS1 owners in existence at the time of the PS2's launch, and a significant portion of those 70M were dying to get their hands on a PS2. A PS2 that Sony only manufactured ~15M of in its first year worldwide. And you think a significant portion of these normalfags were waiting in line overnight to save 100 dollars on a DVD player over hardcore gamers poopsocking that shit just to buy it at release?

No, it just didn't happen. The numbers don't support it. Not the attach rates or the circumstances around the PS2's release. There was certainly some hype around the idea of a cheap DVD player but there's nothing to illustrate that in practice any significant number of people were utilizing it in such a fashion.

[Anonymous No.10741064]

>>10740697
Mikami is such a fucking loser. Imagine crying about Kingdom Hearts and blaming it on your poor sales on a completely unrelated platform lol. No wonder he is producing only trash since leaving Capcom he was hard carried by the talent working there.

[Anonymous No.10741074]

>>10740764
It's arguably him at his dumbest and most wrong lol.

[Anonymous No.10741076]

>>10740759
PS1 = over 100 million sellers
N64 = over 30 million sellers
anon = over 9000 billion copes

[Anonymous No.10741103]

Piracy killed the Dreamcast. PS2 was a cheap DVD player. Gamecube had no DVD player. Xbox has a DVD player, but you had to buy a remote for it. There! I explained how those consoles sold well or did poorly.

[Anonymous No.10741120]

>>10741103
>Piracy killed the Dreamcast
Impossible. Piracy is the reason Playstation triumphed according to anons in this thread. How come piracy is only a net benefit for Sony but it kills everyone else?

[Anonymous No.10741135]

>>10741035
>DVD players were cheaper in 2001 tha a ps2
Go take a nap zoomie

[Anonymous No.10741146]

>>10740768
>No DVD player
>No one had a Saturn
>New controllers with less functionality versus being able to use your ps1 controllers
>thought arcade ports were a good tentacle for 6th gen gaming
>People thought "fuck it I'll just wait for ps2"

[Anonymous No.10741170]

>>10740697
the fat ps2 and the launch ps1 were pretty fucking shit in terms of the disc drive
upside down ps1s were a meme for a reason and my fat ps2 broke 3 times and we kept sending it in to sony because it would only read PS1 cds and blue backed PS2 games

[Anonymous No.10741173]

>>10740697
>lens
wasn't the lens easy to supply and fix? even if your tech/gaming shop charge you 100 bucks, it would still be cheaper than buying another brand new PS2.

>>10740693
DVD were the new CD music for movies.it was a big deal. But being a pooru SEA monkie, i was still buying 2nd-hand VCDs.
by the time i bought my 1st DVD in 2005, streaming and torrentz downloads already took over. also Youtubez and Dailymotion happened.

[Anonymous No.10741197]

>>10740943
DVD is a good selling point, but in SEA monkie's our PS2 consoles were overpriced at launch. We were mostly importing from USA, so they were definitely more expensive than a standalone DVD player. HOWEVER, PSX was already popular here, N64 nope! SEAsians would rather buy an overhyped PS2 over a discount Gamecube. i never even saw a Gamecube in gaming shops OR in 2nd-hand shop 5 years later.

[Anonymous No.10741202]

>>10740749
Incapable of abstract thoughts. Can only comprehend the world through rankings, lists, numbers. Despite the obsession with numbers, they are also incapable of realising when a data set is ommitting information or not telling the entire tale.

[Anonymous No.10741232]

>>10740693
PS2 owes a lot of those sales to the fact that it was the first console that tried to target non-gamers. Playing DVDs was a part of it for sure, but it was also the first one to get games like Singstar and movement tracking accessories like EyeToy and some custom controllers that came with games. Wii is blamed a lot for the casualization of gaming, but PS2 was the first one. /vr/ has very selectively memory when it comes to this console.

[Anonymous No.10741247]

>>10741232
Almost every console tried to appeal to different audiences. PS2 was simply successful at it. Don't be a retarded console warrior.

[Anonymous No.10741249]

>>10740759
Most niggerly post I've seen on /vr/ all year.

[Anonymous No.10741250]

>>10741120
It had less to do with piracy itself and more with the fact that they had to be able to advertise how hard it was to pirate on their console to suits. And Sega fucked up worse in that regard because almost every unmodified Dreamcast unit can play games from burned CDs. Contrary to popular belief, American VA2 models can all play CDs that way. Only some Japanese models came with BIOSes where that was locked and it was always clearly stated on the box as "MIL-CD incompatible" because it also broke some officially licensed Sega releases. That's hard to defend to investors.

[Anonymous No.10741251]

>>10740693
The DVD thing helped, but only initially at the start. PS2 was extremely popular (and easy) to modchip and pirated games made a killing in 3rd world countries. I remember my dad got a Super Mario DVD for ours and it was a whole bunch of SNES roms on there, that's how I got to play most of them for the first time.

[Anonymous No.10741279]

>>10740703
>It looks like the Twin Towers.
yeah and the rising bar like insurance fraud payout

[Anonymous No.10741293]

>>10740706
>The PS1 sold over 100 million units solely on the back of its gaming capabilities