/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10733850]

>everyone jerks it to the jank ass Tenkaichi games
>the true DB kino is rarely discussed anymore
What gives?

[Anonymous No.10733856]

>>10733850
The controls in Tenkaichi are awesome and moving around in destructible 3D levels is way better than single plane fighters

[Anonymous No.10733859]

Sorry, meant to post Hyper Dimension.

[Anonymous No.10733862]

>>10733850
The best DB game isn't /vr/

[Anonymous No.10733870]

The only really awesome thing the Budokai series did was make a bunch of fake fusions. Tiencha, Buu (Frieza Absorbed), Gokule

[Anonymous No.10733893]

>>10733850
Because this shits on both of them.

[Anonymous No.10733910]

>>10733862
Let me guess, FighterZ?

[Anonymous No.10733930]

>>10733850
Because I don't have friends to play with. Playing with bots sucks because they just spam Dragon Rush consistently leaving you no choice but to run away or get raped in the ass.

Does that sound like fun to you?

[Anonymous No.10733931]

>>10733850
I've always maintained that this game is so much better than Tenkaichi. DBT is all button mashing.

[Anonymous No.10733939]

They're both good but Tenkaichi is the better DBZ simulator and it's not close

[Anonymous No.10733962]

>>10733850
No one cares about how good the games are as long as they’re still somewhat playable. What people care about is getting to play as all their favorite characters from the show, which only DBT delivers on.

[Anonymous No.10733989]

>>10733850
>>10733856
I know practically nothing about DBZ but I like the idea of flying around and getting in crazy-ass fights. What game should I play if I want that?

[Anonymous No.10734046]

>>10733989
Final Bout.

[Anonymous No.10734286]

dragon rush alone completely ruins that game

[Anonymous No.10734289]

The true DB kino is watching those animations in 1990 on your Famicom

[Anonymous No.10734507]

>>10734289
Those games suck though.

[Anonymous No.10734514]

>>10734507
They wouldn't have made 6 of them and they wouldn't have all sold so well if they sucked.

[Anonymous No.10734559]

Budokai 3 has a small but legit competitive scene for a while and is a legitimately pretty good fighting game.
>>10734514
You could have printed Goku's face on a dog turd in 1990 and you would have sold millions in Japan. They sucked and there's no reason to play them unless you're a huge DB fan. And don't come at me with that "Budokai 2 is actually good!" nonsense either.

[Anonymous No.10734584]

>>10734514
They made six of them because they made money, same reason they made six Hokuto no Ken games and none of them were any good. They're sold on the strength of the license, not the quality of the game.

[Anonymous No.10734665]

>>10733893
The only decent post.

[Anonymous No.10734678]

>>10733850
Yeah because it's a bad 2D fighter.

>>10733893
This is a decent but pretty uninspired 2D fighter.

People like BT3 because it actually replicates the fights from the show and is an arena fighter with a decent amount of depth to it. If I'm playing as DBZ guys I don't want to be locked on a fucking plane with Goku doing shoryukens while Vegeta shoots hadokens. If I want that I'll go play street fighter.

[Anonymous No.10734717]

>>10734289
They're very soulful but they should have the option to skip the animations if you want.
>>10734507
Eh, they're not bad. Nothing impressive but the presentation is good, they follow the source material faithfully and even add some cool alternate scenarios, and as far as RPGs go at least they try something new with the card system.
>>10733859
Based.
I never cared much for the 3D games, for me it's all about Super Butoden 2, Super Butoden 3, Buyu Retsuden and Hyper Dimension, the best DBZ games.

[Anonymous No.10735728]

What's a good DBZ title for someone who's not too into fighting video games and sucks at most of them, but wants to relive those classic fights?

All of them seem quite difficult against the AI...

I'm talking more specifically about everything up until 5th generation, as I already know about the Budokai titles and all, I mean true 90's retro still.

[Anonymous No.10735735]

>>10733850
I will not play any DBZ game that doesn't have my main, Zarbon, as a playable character.

[Anonymous No.10735745]

>>10733850
Dragon Rush kills what would otherwise be the best Budokai game. Infinite World got rid of it and added some other neat stuff, but its replacement for Dragon Rush was just straight up activatable hyper armor which had the exact same goddamn problem

[Anonymous No.10735780]

>>10735728
Advance Adventure

[Anonymous No.10735825]

>>10734046
I loved that one. Ultimate Battle 22 was fun as well, but not for what that anon wants.

[Anonymous No.10735836]

>>10733862
The best DBZ game is going to be VR indeed, not /vr/. It will be when technology is at a point where you can wear gloves and boots and a headset that are super light and which track your moves, then you can spaz out and pretend you know karate in a big room if you have the money and/or space available. It will make you feel like you're actually one of the fighters.

Something akin to this will come out for super rich people in the coming years for certain.

[Anonymous No.10735956]

>>10733862
Considering different genres there are several. DB has got quality games that has shaped DB universe in my head.
>>10733910
XV2.
>>10734289
I think they are core part of DB experience.
>>10735728
RPG games. I'd also recommend Shenlong no Nazo as well. I think it's underrated.

[Anonymous No.10736145]

>>10733910
Yes.

[Anonymous No.10736156]

>>10733910
Yes.
>>10735956
GOD NO. I love Xenoverse 2 to death but that game is a fucking mess filled with bad ideas that hurt the "DBZ experience"

[Anonymous No.10736179]

The gokuuden games are pretty underrated outside of Japan

[Anonymous No.10736223]

>>10733859
sorry, meant to post ultimate battle 22.

[Anonymous No.10736227]

>>10735728
It's a little past the 90s but Advance Adventure is a legitimately great little licensed beat-em-up platformer with some light fighting game elements. I mean it's a GBA game so close enough to 16-bit.

[Anonymous No.10736353]

>>10736145
Nah man FighterZ disappointed me so much. The lack of game modes and content versus almost every single game prior was unbelievable. I didn't want to play online but that was apparently where most of the appeal was. I'm good. I'll be happily playing the Tenkaichi 4 for the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.10736356]

>>10736353
**tenkaichi 4 hack

[Anonymous No.10736435]

>>10736223
Oops, i meant shin butoden.

[Anonymous No.10736456]

>>10736223
>>10736435
Man I wish these games were as good as Butoden 2/3.
Will be forever a mystery how Bandai fucked up so much on 5th gen

[Anonymous No.10736513]

>>10736353
>>10736356
>**tenkaichi 4 hack
I mean we're not all that far off from Sparking Zero so dunno why you would want to continue playing a half baked hack like that BT4 one

[Anonymous No.10736679]

>>10735728
Supersonic warriors for the gba

[Anonymous No.10736770]

The GOAT

[Anonymous No.10736791]

>>10736770
this is one of those games I feel no one but me played

[Anonymous No.10736837]

>>10736791
I loved it. It's the best 5th gen DBZ game.
Also, it was super popular in Portugal, it helped sell Sega Saturn and I believe for a while Saturn was even more popular than PS1 there thanks to this game. So no, you're not the only one!

[Anonymous No.10736872]

>>10736791
Was a big import at the time, I still have mine.

[Anonymous No.10736875]

>>10735735
He's OP in UB22.

[Anonymous No.10736878]

>>10735825
Truly based anon.

[Anonymous No.10737004]

>Accept my challenge Kakarot!
>Right, let's do it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUidOLHoJA

[Anonymous No.10737053]

>>10734584
>>10734559
This is incorrect though. The Hokuto No Ken games had mid reviews and didn't sell that well. The DB/Z games had better reviews and appeared as top sellers, and before they'd come out they'd appear in the "TOP most anticipated games" list which were user submission.

Only reason anyone claims those games suck these days is because they have a bit of grinding they get filtered by that, and since they're clueless about the games' context assume they're kusoge. They were considered to be alright RPGs and grinding was the norm back then, not to mention that it fit the source material since they spend so much time doing nothing but training.

It also doesn't help that Americans discovered Dragon Ball 15 years after everyone else, therefore the fans are younger, therefore their idea of good JRPG balancing is Final Fantasy VII.

[Anonymous No.10737092]

>>10733850
One of the best OSTs in gaming ever. I don't give a FUCK if it's plagiarized. The HD "remaster" is total crap since it swaps out the soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.10737463]

>>10737053
Bad comparison. The DBZ games are pretty assy but those HnK games are like next level kusoge. Also, are we really using sales/hype as an indicator of quality? lol

[Anonymous No.10737487]

>>10736513
Sparking Zero will have half the roster and less content. Screencap this post

[Anonymous No.10737547]

>>10737487
Yeah my guess is the majority of roster slots will be eaten up by Super shitters and all the "weird" characters like General Blue or that lady Saiyan from the Bardock special will be given the boot. Regardless, over half the characters will be locked behind DLC "seasons"

[Anonymous No.10737553]

>>10737547
Exactly. I'll be fine on BT4.

[Anonymous No.10737586]

>>10733893
Based. Still has tournaments in Japan

[Anonymous No.10737615]

>>10733893
It's pretty cool and I like how it uses the manga as a base for it's aesthetic but I can't get over having a jump button in a game like this.

[Anonymous No.10737720]

>>10737092
It's a shame the composer(s) of BT2 couldn't keep the rest of the series sound as good as BT2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NCN8DQOApI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRiNu8i0jqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XITvOtyFJgA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4_wwPZzK0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiD2a3zZ8T0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvuWfzLRG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nujT_QlqCMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0nBlXOcshY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtxdiV1Xvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mueVbWoWP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTSi-edP55k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_X3MmLr4o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6HujxfG6fs

[Anonymous No.10737759]

>>10737720
Were they really so averse to calling it "Tenkaichi Budokai"? "Budokai Tenkaichi" is so fucking clunky for an international title change.

[Anonymous No.10738315]

>>10737759
I don't know why they couldn't just call it Sparking like it is in Japan.

[Anonymous No.10738325]

>>10738315
I'm hoping Sparking name would stick and people would stop using Budokai Tenkaichi name. Sparking Neo, Sparking Meteor have been used in the past. Funny thing is localizers did a good job originally by adding Budokai title for the Budokai series. In Japan those are just called DBZ.

[Anonymous No.10738335]

>>10737720
I remember even at like 13 or 14 when I first played BT3, one of the first things I noticed was how the soundtrack was much more generic than BT2. I still have 2 installed for such hankerings. Plus the story mode was much goddamn better. I swear they included every imaginable fight in the series. 3 skipped a lot for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.10738338]

>>10733850
>Goku pose is from when he finishes off Buu
>Vegeta pose is horriffically bad modified pose from his fight against Goku

Ew. Aso hyper dimension for snes is the only one to respect in any way. Greatest sprite work in all of 8-16-32 bit gaming period.

[Anonymous No.10738339]

>>10735728
Just play on easy you stupid bitch.

[Anonymous No.10738354]

>>10738338
Hyper Dimension is overrated frankly.

[Anonymous No.10738359]

>>10733850
I liked the budokai series as a kid but I think Fighterz is the best 2d fighter of the bunch.

Tenkaichi is the best translation of the anime combat to a game so far. It looks good, feels good, and has basically every character ever.

I did like that the transformations in B3 were actual buffs though. They also need to bring back crazy what if things like Frieza-Buu or Gokule.

[Anonymous No.10738363]

>>10738359
I would've liked FighterZ so much more if the apparent content draw wasn't almost solely "play online lol"

[Anonymous No.10738380]

>>10738363
Unironically, please understand making the models as good as they are is too hard.

[Anonymous No.10738391]

>>10738363
FighterZ is also my pick for best DB game but yeah it's more of a "Serious fighting game" than a "Fun DBZ game." They do add lots of features to make it as user friendly as possible but unless you like online competitive play, I could see you losing interest pretty quick.

[Anonymous No.10738405]

>>10738391
>>10738359
Nu-ArcSys games suck

[Anonymous No.10738446]

>>10738363
I sort of agree with you. I feel like most fighting games in general don't have good single player content. I usually spend most of my time fighting real people online anyway since it's way more interesting to me than fighting a subpar AI. I pretty much agree with >>10738391

>>10738405
Breaking news: opinions are subjective!
You're a gigantic faggot. You know that?

[Anonymous No.10738450]

>>10738446
t. hurtfeelings

[Anonymous No.10738567]

>>10737720
I could be wrong about this but this isn't the actual soundtrack. It's the international release soundtrack

[Anonymous No.10738584]

>>10737720
Wow this is shit, post the real soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.10738593]

>>10738584
>post the real soundtrack
you what

[Anonymous No.10738619]

>>10733850
>20 fucking 24
>community full of autist modders
>not a single one has yet made either a mod or just an AR code to disable Dragon Rush
Fucking why?
Whenever I want to play this game I lose all interest when I remember that any point during the fight I can lose a decent chunk of life to complete RNG, not to mention having to watch the stupid cutscene over and over.

And don't say "Muh Infinite World", that one's worse with all the minigame bullshit they put on the story mode.

[Anonymous No.10738637]

>>10734289
>Over 1 fucking minute to resolve a single round of commands
Maybe when I was 10, no sane person would be able to sit through an entire game of this as an adult.

[Anonymous No.10738645]

>>10738354
It's fun jank.

[Anonymous No.10738650]

>>10738405
As opposed to their old games?

[Anonymous No.10738654]

>>10738650
yes

[Anonymous No.10738660]

>>10737720
>No awake
DISGUSTING

[Anonymous No.10738667]

>>10738654
Show me how many hours you spent playing Sailor moon and retro Guilty Gear.

[Anonymous No.10738671]

>>10738667
Why?

[Anonymous No.10738676]

>>10738671
Because i genuinely doubt you play their old games.

[Anonymous No.10738685]

>>10738676
I am not a tourneyhomo if that's what you're getting at. There's more to a fighting game then autistic tendencies of technical miniscule fighting detail

[Anonymous No.10738689]

Nu-ASW is fine lol. The enhanced cel shading their games have is the only graphical style from the last generation that impressed me.

[Anonymous No.10738703]

>>10738689
It has that same look that ugly low frame rate 3d jp animated shows have these days

[Anonymous No.10738705]

>>10738593
https://youtu.be/__45RMDtJQo?si=PxQOd3V46V8aCeZt

[Anonymous No.10738708]

>>10738637
They're so intensely drawn out even for RPGs of their time, especially for you to lose to mook characters.

[Anonymous No.10738714]

>>10738667
The only good Guilty Gear is the first one.

[Anonymous No.10738731]

>>10738685
What does that have to do with my question?
Only tournyfags play games they like for hours then???

[Anonymous No.10738739]

>>10738731
Why would you ask otherwise?

[Anonymous No.10738741]

>>10738731
Your question made no sense, why should someone reply to that in first place?

[Anonymous No.10738750]

>>10738741
Asking someone proof that they play a game a lot is nonsensical?

[Anonymous No.10738751]

>>10738739
I wanted to know if you actually play it.

[Anonymous No.10738761]

>>10738751
I played XX Reloaded quite sometimes on the PS2 and PSP, I also played X, Judgement, Isuka and Spirits a few times

[Anonymous No.10738820]

>>10735836
>Something akin to this will come out for super rich people in the coming years for certain.

That much I can agree with but as for everything else I'm not holding my breath desu. The average person, let alone the average gamer or DB fan, doesn't have the physical condition to do the kind and amount of punches that an average DB game fight has and will get bored or exhausted in about 5 minutes, once the emotion of performing an actually working kamehameha disappears. It might be the best DB game ever but it will remain niche, and that's assuming they don't fill it with micro-transactions and the controls are perfect, which would be a miracle.

[Anonymous No.10738895]

>>10738363
It is first and foremost a fighting game so that's just gonna happen.

[Anonymous No.10739062]

>>10737759
>Were they really so averse to calling it "Tenkaichi Budokai"? "Budokai Tenkaichi" is so fucking clunky for an international title change.
because they wanted the American audience to think of them as continuations of the Budokai games rather than completely unrelated games like they were in truth(we saw something similar happen with Gundam Battle Assault 3* and the DS era Digimon World** games around this same time)

*actually a completely unrelated game in terms of gameplay(and apparently was based on the engine used for a Godannar game of all things in Japan), interestingly it's apparently the only Gundam game ever made that never saw a Japanese release of any form

**originally being the initial entries in the Digimon Story series of games as well as the one off Digimon Championship

[Anonymous No.10739079]

>>10738619
You could always just oh I don't know, uh not get hit by the ai when they go into hyper mode also
>playing Infinite World for the story
lol the only reason you would ever play IW over B3 is for the updated movesets and new characters and new mechanics that were carried from Shin Budokai.

[Anonymous No.10739234]

literally just dbz simulator
ssj2 goku vs. majin vegeta on z difficulty see or yourself

[Anonymous No.10739243]

>>10739234
This is all a man truly needs

[Anonymous No.10740489]

>>10739234
>shitty unbalanced spic mod

[Anonymous No.10740524]

used to play this at the mall