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1070248

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:24:24 2013 No.1070248 [Reply] [Original]

God damn.
The game is easy, really, really easy to the point where it invalidates everything cool in the game.
Want to use that cool new weapon you found? Well now the enemies all die in 1-2 hits so they never even get to their pattern.
Want to use that armor you discovered? Now the enemies do 1 damage so theres no need to learn the bosses pattern.
I feel like I'm being punished (with a more boring experience) for exploring.

Whats the point in giving all the enemies unique patterns and ai's if they just fucking die without putting up a fight, or the point in having dozens of different types of attacks if just basic sword slashes are already more than enough to handle the enemies?

I've been playing through the game with a gameshark hack that sets alucard to level 99 with the stats of a level 1 and I'm fucking destroying everything without even needing to use subweapons, spells, or consumables.

I'm trying to enjoy this game but it feels like its working against me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:29:54 2013 No.1070268 Punch everything to death, it adds challenge and makes you feel like a badass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:30:53 2013 No.1070273 >>1070268 I agree with this guy. From what I remember it's a viable tactic

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:31:22 2013 No.1070275 Yeah, SotN is notorious in that we had to come up with our own "hard modes"

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:34:54 2013 No.1070283 >>1070248 I enjoyed it for its gameplay, good looking sprites and animation, and soundtrack. I didn't feel that it needed to be more challenging.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:35:23 2013 No.1070285 >>1070283 thats because you just want a virtual world to dick around in and not a game

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:37:53 2013 No.1070287 >>1070285 Nah, I just don't equate a high challenge level with more fun. I enjoyed it as is. For those looking or a challenge, there are plenty of creative ways to devise your own hard modes which I think is pretty cool. Just not for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 20:08:58 2013 No.1070368 I don't think Symphony of the Night is a very good game period. Subsequent Metroidvanias improved upon its formula considerably.

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Anonymous Fri Sep 13 21:37:16 2013 No.1070606

>>1070368
i agree.

Sotn had a lot of bosses with crappy patterns like how you can stun lock the raven boss just by knocking him into a corner. It also had some of the most tedious back tracking in the entire series, later ones in the series would add more short cuts to help you navigate.

each subsequent metroid-vania had a more complex system for your characters abilities: card combos in Cotm, subweapon+spell book combos in aria, the soul system in sorrow, or por with its duel character. Sotn has only a handful of abilities for alucard

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Anonymous Fri Sep 13 21:54:17 2013 No.1070680

>>1070606
>It also had some of the most tedious back tracking in the entire series

Oh please, there are warps, library cards, and the game is easy enough that just walking to wherever you're going isn't a big deal. The castle is also circular with some cut-throughs so it's not like you have to go back exactly the way you came all the time.

Definitely agree on the lack of challenge being a problem though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 21:57:17 2013 No.1070695 >>1070268 Even doing that the game is still a cake walk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 21:58:48 2013 No.1070704 >>1070248 This game really, really, REALLY needs to get a good level editor and hacking community. If you've ever played any of the great Super Metroid hacks, imagine what could be done with SOTN.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 21:59:47 2013 No.1070709 >>1070248 Sotn is special when it comes to challenge runs: the game is so unbalanced that they are still easy. Even level 1 alucard without equipment is OP as shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 22:25:08 2013 No.1070790 I dunno OP, play as Belmont? >>1070704 Someone IS working on a level editor, but it's slow coming since all PSX hacking is a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 02:19:06 2013 No.1071223 >>1070268 I actually find that easier considering your fist attack is faster than most weapons in the game. Usually I will just use fists and holy water until I get to the inverted castle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 07:56:40 2013 No.1073803 We need to mod the game. >Normal mode re-balanced >Nightmare Two romhacks would be needed, one aiming at a new normal difficulty, and another for fans who've played the games 40 times and want a super hard challenge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 07:58:09 2013 No.1073808 >>1070248 >The game is easy, really, really easy to the point where it invalidates everything cool in the game. Well... yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 07:59:40 2013 No.1073812 >>1070704 >If you've ever played any of the great Super Metroid hacks No, but I don't think something like that exists either.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sun Sep 15 17:00:46 2013 No.1074640 >>1070790 Richter mode is even easier because he can go anywhere and throw fifty million knives to destroy any boss in seconds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 17:27:17 2013 No.1074690 I'm not sure I understand this "If it exists in the game I MUST use it!" mentality. If the game's too easy for you, why not challenge yourself in some way? No armor level 1 Red Rust run.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 15 17:35:16 2013 No.1074704 >>1070285 Not that guy but I did, in fact, enjoy it as a virtual world to dick around in

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 07:41:52 2013 No.1076137 >>1073803 this