/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1068172]

>2013
>still aiming to the groin

[Anonymous No.1068329]

Eyes and groin all day everyday.

[Anonymous No.1068337]

>>1068172

>not aiming at the groin

do you hate fun

[Anonymous No.1068338]

real men shoot other men in the dick

[Anonymous No.1068341]

>>1068338
or stong kick them

[Anonymous No.1068345]

Eyes errday

>mfw I kept aiming at the eyes and killing all the fighting masters in San Fransisco

[Anonymous No.1068351]

>tfw you can't use fast shot with unarmed in FO2
I just wanted to be Kenshiro.

[Anonymous No.1068401]

First the groin and then the eyes /
Always you will win the prize

[Anonymous No.1068430]

>fighting Cameron
>not using your words

[Anonymous No.1068480]

>>1068351

>Tfw unarmed is one of the funnest ways to play all of the Fallouts but they gimp you so hard that it's pretty nonviable

[Anonymous No.1068618]

I still can't believe FO3 and onwards removed groin shots, what the hell were they thinking?

[Anonymous No.1068652]

>>1068618
Bethesda developed it, of course good things would be removed.

[Anonymous No.1068670]

>>1068480

What? Unarmed is extremely viable in FO2. After a point, it's honestly probably one of the most broken builds.

[Anonymous No.1068682]

>target creature
>no eyes to shoot

[Anonymous No.1068740]

>play fallout for the first time
>can never have more than 50% accuracy in VATS without standing directly next to an enemy

I don't get it, am I expected to save before every shot?

[Zangief !!YG0uo46UrxQ No.1068774]

>>1068740

No, you are supposed to level up

[Anonymous No.1068784]

>2013
>not aiming for the ganglion

[Anonymous No.1068786]

>>1068329
>Eyes and groin all day everyday.
Seriously this. I just can't help it. I'm not sure I've even tried to shoot elsewhere.

>>1068784
Hah.

[Anonymous No.1068790]

>>1068786
If you're melee or unarmed, leg attacks can be pretty useful if you're farming deathclaws.

[Anonymous No.1068794]

>>1068790
I'll keep that in mind should the occasion to use it ever arise, thanks!

[Anonymous No.1068851]

>>1068740
If a game allows it I normally save before every fight and load if it the fight doesn't go almost perfectly.

[Anonymous No.1068862]

>Unarmed Jet Addict build
>Get into boxing matches in New Reno
>Hit that Jet Pipe and chew those Buffouts
>Champion of North California when I punch out the Masticator's eye with the first blow
>mfw post apocalypse doesn't piss test for doping

[Anonymous No.1068919]

>>1068790
Head hits can knock shit unconscious but it's a bit broken since the fight will end with the victim alive.
Arm hits will prevent them from using weapons.

[Anonymous No.1068925]

>>1068862
Jet wears off too quickly for the competitions. Psycho is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.1068931]

>>1068919
Most things that use weapons if FO1 can be killed with one eye hit anyway.

[Anonymous No.1068936]

>>1068931
It's sometimes easier to hit the arms than the eyes but then you should probably take unaimed shots or move to a better position.

[Anonymous No.1068976]

>>1068172
I aim to the eye, sometimes to the head.

[Anonymous No.1068994]

When I first played Fallout I didn't even know VATS was a thing for a long time.

[Anonymous No.1069002]

>>1068740

Early on you should aim for the groin or the legs first, a crit there will knock the enemy down, giving you increased accuracy while they're on the ground. But generally when you're low level you should try to avoid combat and level up doing fetch quests, though if you kill the dealer in one of the early areas, you can use psycho and Jet to make yourself super fast and damage resistant, help one gang wipe out the other, then wipe out the first gang, and then quickly run over to the slavers while you're still high on Psycho and Jet and punch all of their eyes out. You get a level or two and a huge stack of loot. Repeating that trick in New Reno is hilarious.

I often go with unarmed runs with 5 agility, because I know I'm going to be using Psycho and Buffout to make up the difference when I'm actually fighting. +50% damage resistance makes you utterly monstrous, submachine guns are useless against you.

[Anonymous No.1069029]

I always just aim at the head because it's more likely to kill them and I only shoot or punch them in the groin when I am sure that they are going to die. Especially with Bloody Mess.

[Anonymous No.1069030]

>>1069029
>head
I mean eyes

[Anonymous No.1069039]

I'd usually sing:¨You have plasma in your eyes¨ when I aim.

[Anonymous No.1069051]

>>1068784
Goddamn it, I hate Floaters with a fucking passion. They made them even more annoying in Fallout 2

[Anonymous No.1069320]

Confession: I still can't beat Fallout 2. I went through most of Reno and did some Vault City stuff and kept dying to the wanamingos. I had no idea what it was so I went to vault city and sold a bunch of shit just to get some good armor and a good weapon. Only to figure out that my Strength is 4. So I can't even get the full strength of my 10mm SMG, the weapon I used for most of my run.
>sold it to get a stronger weapon
>Now it's another ST point that I need to use it effectively
>lost will to play

[Anonymous No.1069357]

>>1068994
This. I took the fast shot perk cause it sounded good (-1 AP dude!) and never knew about VATS until I read the manual quite a while later.

[Anonymous No.1069361]

>>1069357
Fast shot is a decent build to go for in FO1. It's all about preferred playstyle and whether you want to carry all that extra ammo or not.

[Anonymous No.1069369]

>>1069361
I only see the usefulness if you use something with low AP costs. Alien blaster will be 2AP per shot with fast shot and the other perk that reduces AP costs.

[Anonymous No.1069414]

>>1069320
The Wanamingos in Redding? Those are entirely optional.
Your quest is to reach Vault 13, which is further south.

[Anonymous No.1069420]

>>1069414
Yeah I know, but I like doing all the quests I could possibly do. I made this character with 4 ST because I thought that I could easily use a lot of one handed weapons with it and then get power armor later to increase it to wield stronger weapons. Where can I get legit power armor? I know where to steal it and who to kill for a set. But I don't know where I can earn one like in Fallout 1.

[Anonymous No.1069432]

>>1068351
Don't we all want to be Kenshiro?
In the modern games the closest we can have is unarmed 100 and Bloody Mess at best.
Then again, I never looked for Fist of the North Star mods.

[Anonymous No.1069451]

>>1069420
Enclave outpost. Go to San Francisco and talk to the Brotherhood of Steel guy.
You don't really earn it, they just give it to you.
You won't get them from dead BoS guys and there's no way to enter their bunkers without joining them.

[Anonymous No.1069459]

>>1069432
>Don't we all want to be Kenshiro?
No.

[Anonymous No.1069469]

of course you shoot em in the dick, its funny

then you are free to shoot them in the head like 20 times as they still writhe in agony over being shot in the dick

[Anonymous No.1069513]

I've always wanted to do an unarmed run, but how do you avoid taking a gorillian damage from taking a full auto at point blank?

[Anonymous No.1069519]

>>1069513
Good armor and defense. Hitting them hard and fast.
There aren't that many opponents with automatic weapons to begin with and you can get them to waste their ammunition on a distance before closing in.

[Anonymous No.1069521]

>>1069513
If you're talking FO1, you'll never face anything that can do that and not itself be killed in one turn. Usually you wait behind a corner, pull with some shitty small gun (deagle or something) and wait for them to walk up to you and maybe throw a punch at you. Then you punch them in the eyes until they're dead or blind.

[Anonymous No.1069525]

>>1069469
>007 mode
>all weapons
>set enemy life to 1000%
>cutting loose on their junk with dual hunting knives
That slicing sound man...

[Anonymous No.1069530]

>>1068618

They were thinking, "Let's avoid controversy that will make our masters mad at us."

[Anonymous No.1069547]

>>1069521
Never mind, I just remembered that The Master can give you a good laser shower at point blank without you being able to kill him in one turn. Wear Hardened Power Armor or just do an alternate route where you don't have to fight him.

[Anonymous No.1069564]

>>1068480
In Fallout 2 unarmed is actually quite overpowered if you chose the right combination of traits and perks.

Jinxed and Heavyhanded in combination with 10 AG and LK are where it's at.

[Anonymous No.1069787]

>>1069564
10AG is pretty much where it's at for all builds. It's the quintessential stat for any kind of combat, and you're fucked without it.

[Anonymous No.1069791]

>>1069530
Considering you can behead people, that's a stupid fucking theory you got there.

[Anonymous No.1069810]

>>1069787
Not really.
With 6 AG you still get 8 AP, so it's not really that essential.
There are a couple of good builds that don't need 10 AG.
I do agree that it's pretty convenient though
mostly because you can make a shot and still run away far enough that you stay out of your enemies' range if you also have 2x action boy and bonus move.

[Anonymous No.1069832]

>>1069564
While I did pass the game so many times with all possible weapons and it is true that you can defeat almost anything with those powerfists and haymakers, it is unbelievably difficult to kill the end boss using solely your fists...

[Anonymous No.1069846]

>>1069832
Once he's out of ammo for his plasma rifle he's finished.
Having the sentries against you is a bigger problem since one crit fom them and it's all over.

[Anonymous No.1069856]

>>1069832
Horrigan? I killed him with bare hands wearing a leather jacket.

It's hard even with the Jinxed trait, because he can't drop his weapons.

You either have to cripple both his hands or hope you get lucky when hitting the eyes.

Never liked him to be honest.
He seems very out of place. Like everything in Fallout 2.

[Anonymous No.1069857]

>>1068480
>unarmed
>gimped
Hahaha

haahahahahahah

[Anonymous No.1069863]

>>1069857
In 1 it is pretty useless.
They greatly expanded it in 2 and added the ring fights as an additional incentive to train unarmed.

[Anonymous No.1069873]

>>1069810
But 2x Action Boy is like level 15.

How do you make a build to get through early game with as low as 6agi?

[Anonymous No.1069884]

>>1069857
I wouldn't call it gimped.

In Fallout 1 a purely unarmed build is hard but doable, I think.

Fallout 2 is actually pretty easy unarmed, like I said before.

In Fallout Tactics it's okay for the early raider missions, but after that it's only viable to have it as a backup when you gotta finish a single enemy as fast as possible.

I really needed my powerfister in those supermutant missions because some of them would kill most of my squad in one hit when they were to close.
The melee fighter hit so fast that he interrupted all actions of his victims.

Unarmed is also pretty fun in FOnline 2238
but you don't stand the slightest chance in PvP.

[Anonymous No.1069897]

Also adding in:

This is my current build for unarmed in FO1.
Military Base done at level 8.
Only farmed to level 12 for easier combat against the SM guards in the Cathedral Vault (lack of corners).
Also I'm NOT using Power Armor in this game.

[Anonymous No.1069903]

>Fallout Tactics

[Anonymous No.1069906]

>>1069873
You still have 8 AP.
If you don't stand a chance with 8 AP those 2 extras won't really make a difference.
You don't even get a single extra attack until you take 2x action boy.

Personally I prefer sniper builds.
You can take Bonus Move at level 3.
With high PE and outdoorsman you start further from your enemies.
If you also tag sneak you can hit sneak and take on your opponents one by one.

I once completed Fallout 1 with the hunting rifle only.

[Anonymous No.1069916]

>>1069906
Hmm, I guess I'm just too stuck in FO1 character building to really understand FO2 builds then.

Also, gj on doing hunting rifle only in FO1 as long as you didn't combat glitch. That's a bit of planning for the Military Base exterior and direct entrance I guess.

[Anonymous No.1069919]

>>1068172
Shooting deathclaws in the legs is useful though.

[Anonymous No.1069926]

>>1069897
What do you need barter for?
Unarmed builds don't need anything except for armor and stimpacks.
Lockpick is equally useless.

Also 10 ST seems logical for a melee build but 5 is actually enough to get the best attack.
You really could've used those points in EN.
Also 10 IN is overboard as well. What do you need those points for?
You never need more than 180% unarmed after that you'd just waste points.

You should have taken Jinxed instead of Gifted.

[Anonymous No.1069950]

>>1069926
Barter was simply for easy money to get all the BoS upgrades early.

Endurance is usually just wasted points since at 60+ HP the only danger you'll face is a serious crit in your face, which will still do 150+ damage, and there's no way to soak that even with high endurance.

Also I wasn't going to use power armor in this run, since it's both ugly and takes away any sense of danger from anything.

So most of the stats you see at 10 are actually 9 or maybe even 8 from the start, the Luck was meant just for crits but gave me almost all special encounters early. For instance, I got the Stealth Boy AND Motion Sensor before I even reached Necropolis.

[Anonymous No.1069960]

>>1069916
I was talking about Fallout 1.

Military base is hard though, yeah.
The worst fight for me was the mutant commander.

The cathedral was easy because you mostly face monsters that don't have ranged attacks and the master can be talked with.

I don't think I could have beaten him in a fight with just the rifle
even though it might work if you can move in and out of his range while landing an aimed shot.
Since he's stationary you could just hit&run him starting a new turn each time.

In FO2 everything is much easier because of all those overpowered perks.

[Anonymous No.1069982]

>>1069960
You mean the Lieutenant as the "Mutant Commander", right?
(I forgot his name, the guy who talks like Beast from the old X-Men cartoon)

Worst part of the Cathedral as melee is the second pull behind the door in the basement, since almost all corners are blocked with rocks you can shoot over, so you can't really do a proper corner-pull on them without either power armor or tesla(?) armor to reduce the laser damage.

[Anonymous No.1069986]

>>1069982
Well yo could just sneak past everyone with the stealth boy.

[Anonymous No.1070012]

>>1069986
The build I went for was sort of an experimental role-playing build where sneak wasn't a part of it (because I grew really tired of sneak when I did FO2 as melee), so the plan was basically this:

Run up to people, punch them to death (hence the name, Punch-Girl).
Punch everyone into submission.
If anyone dared to enter combat with me, run up to them and punch them into submission again.

That's why the sneak is so low, it's pretty much the build for an early (1999-2001) Naruto.
It could be min-maxed I know, but min-maxing Fallout is like using flutes in SMB3. It's just. Not. Fun.
At all.

[Anonymous No.1070036]

>>1070012
Yeah. I know what you mean.
Always preferred balanced builds myself.

[Anonymous No.1070058]

>>1070036
Balanced in combat or balanced as in "not using Gifted"?

Because all builds get broken with Gifted.

[Anonymous No.1070089]

>>1070058
Balanced in terms of skills. A little bit of everything.
I actually don't really like Gifted very much.
You don't really need 10 in any stat if you're not min/maxing anyhow.

I always preferred Small Frame, Finesse and Fast Shot depending on the build.

[Anonymous No.1070117]

>>1070089
The problem with FO1 is that you can't really balance it in terms of skill.

There are skills that you *need* to win the game.
There are skills that are *completely useless*

And while I'd agree that 10 in any stat isn't necessary, I still say that unless you have 7+ AGI there are random encounters that WILL KILL YOU NO MATTER WHAT. Especially when you're moving in the tundra up in the left corner.

[Anonymous No.1070131]

>>1068862
>>1068925
drug addicts disgust me

[Anonymous No.1070138]

>>1069420
enclave niggah, i always sneak from behind the base

[Anonymous No.1070148]

>>1069856
>out of place
>one of the best bosses
i hate you nigger, he is powerful and in the first tries it's hard to think about the turrets and the president card

[Anonymous No.1070159]

>>1070117
You really only need either small guns or unarmed.
If you're not going for "better rate of fire" or "more hand to hand" you don't even need to boost those to 180%.
For unarmed ~150 is enough to get 95% for all aimed attacks.
For small guns you only need a high skill for longe range weapons like the hunting or sniper rifle.

That leaves you with enough points to spread widely, if you have at least 5 IN.

Most skills are fine if you get them between 60-80
like outdoorsman, repair or lockpick.

Although I still like outdoorsman of the secondary skills the most.

Snipers don't need a very high sneaking skill as well, since they're obviously far away.
Unarmed sneakers need a high sneaking skill though if they want to sneak up on enemies with high PE.

Thank god it's not as bad as in Fonline 2238 where sneaking is pretty much useless in PvP unless it's around 200-300.

[Anonymous No.1070161]

>>1069950
>motion sensor
That thing useful for anything besides taking up space?

[Anonymous No.1070163]

>>1070161
It shows you where your enemies are on your minimap.

[Anonymous No.1070164]

>>1070161
It gives you a bonus on survival.

[Anonymous No.1070165]

>>1070164
>>1070163
Didn't know about the survival.

[Anonymous No.1070167]

>>1070161
i never used it, i needed the space for more plasma ammo

[Anonymous No.1070169]

>>1070165
It's 20% but only in Fallout 2.

[Anonymous No.1070178]

>>1070169
Only in Fallout 2? That might explain why I thought it was useless. I only ever tried to see what it did in Fallout 1. Didn't see a purpose so I just sold it.

[Anonymous No.1070202]

>>1070159
>outdoorsman
>Fallout 1
It's a completely broken skill (as in, it doesn't work). I'm not sure what to answer here, but I'll assume you know more about it than I do. I'm not really a buff on how it works.

>>1070161
It's useful for getting unlimited caps when you have high barter early on. Other than that, I don't know what the hell it can do.

>>1070159
(again)
I really didn't want to take Silent Running, so I skipped the whole sneak thing. As for repair and science, I got those skills solely from barter and getting free books from the Hub library, so that wasn't any point wasting.

[Anonymous No.1070957]

>>1069863
Did you even play fo1?

10 ag, bonus hth and action boy with power armor murks anyone. Then if you get slayer with 10 luck its a goddamn rapefest

[Anonymous No.1071112]

>>1070957
>slayer
>Fallout 1
Yeah, have fun grinding up and past the level cap.

You finish that game before level 11 or you don't finish it at all.

[Anonymous No.1071129]

>>1071112
Shit, let me rewrite that:

I didn't mean to come off as such a bastard, BUT:

You'll never level up to get Slayer in FO1.
The other part of my post I will attribute to me being drunk when I wrote it.
Sorry.

But still, Slayer is not something you'll reach in a regular game of FO1.

I probably sound like a shitfuckabilly right now (drunk, sorry) brb when I'm sober.

[Anonymous No.1071315]

>>1070957
You could just use melee weapons with that combination. Just be careful when you send people flying with the super sledge.

[Anonymous No.1071941]

>>1070957
Aren't Slayer and Sniper only Fallout 2 perks?
I don't think they were in FO1.

>>1070202
Outdoorsman let's you choose to avoid or engage encounters, find special encounters more easily and I think you can also travel faster.
Also it positively affects your placement in encounters.

[Anonymous No.1071986]

>>1071941
In FO1 you never get to choose whether you want an encounter.

Slayer (dunno about Sniper) is a level 18 perk in FO1.

[Anonymous No.1075089]

>>1068670
>most broken build
go to san francisco just as leaving the village, buy jet cure
>go to enclave and steal power armor mk2 and sledgehammer
>go to second town (reno maybe i dont remember) abuse the guy that gives you infinite jet
>overuse jet till it bugs, keep doing it and curing it till you have the last nightmare
>start 2 agi & str (with that perk that gives +1 all) eventually 10 all stats power armor/sledgehammer/50 ap (cap)

[Anonymous No.1075210]

Did you guys say something about the groin?

[Anonymous No.1075213]

Because I could swear someone said something about the groin.

[Anonymous No.1075217]

Let me TELL you about that groin!

[Anonymous No.1075223]

>>1075210
>>1075213
>>1075217

Dude, take it to /d/ please.

[Anonymous No.1075225]

[Anonymous No.1075227]

Okay, last one and you guys can go back to talking about Fallout Groin.

[Anonymous No.1075237]

>>1075213
>>1075217
>>1075227
>>1075225

Don't post this ugly Murrican shit.

[Anonymous No.1075294]

>>1075223
Oh man did I miss someone posting /d/ content? What was it?
polite sage for even mentioning /d/