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Severed Chains, the PC port project for Legend of Dragoon recently hit it's next milestone, having the game run at 60FPS and at 4K and with updated textures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isAC2LlwJEM

inb4 people post that that "Lookin' good" meme
inb4 people now intentionally post that meme in response to this

>> No.10674886

These games are not made for these resolutions. It only exposes the flaws.
It's cool that it got decompiled though.

>> No.10674887

>>10674879
does this have anything to do with gooning

>> No.10674891

what a weird game to pick for this kind of project

>> No.10674894

>>10674879
Saw this earlier today, didn't want to post a thread because it looks horrible IMO.

>didn't even bother to fix the wobble (which is possible on emulators)
>AI upscaled backgrounds with no coherent art style whatsoever
hd_cat.jpg

>> No.10674909

>>10674886
Yeah it looks terrible, but I'm glad for the project.

>> No.10674910

>>10674894
>>didn't even bother to fix the wobble (which is possible on emulators)

... what wobble? This isn't even emulated, it's a PC port of decompiled code. There is no wobble to fix because it's rendering natively on a PC's GPU which won't have any of the wobbling or warping a PS1 was known for in the first place.

>> No.10674913

>>10674879
That's nice, but when the fuck is there going to be a retranslation project to fix the god-awful script?

>> No.10674918

>>10674910
>... what wobble?
The shaky polygons on the 3D models. Modern PSX emulators can fix this.

>> No.10674924

>>10674918
There is no wobble in the PC port, get glasses.

>> No.10674927

>>10674879
the charm was in its original graphics, this makes it look like a crappy new wannabe game

>> No.10674929

>>10674927
You can skip the textures and just use the other enhancements, I didn't find any charm in it running at sub-10FPS in some parts.

>> No.10674939

>>10674879
It looks kind of cool but those faces are really distracting
>1:45
Dart looks like a meme here

>> No.10674941

>>10674929
you probably played it on a shitulator. i played it on playstation and it was fine

>> No.10674947

>>10674941
No, I played it on my PS1 long before any usable PS1 emulators even existed... unless you count PSEmu Pro barely being able to run the PS1 bios at 1FPS as "usable".

>> No.10674948

>AI slop
lol

>> No.10675459

>>10674879
Never played the original. This looks pretty decent graphically.

>> No.10675525

>>10674879
Is the port fully playable without bugs, or is it still early?

>> No.10675565

Are there any QoL improvements? Like skipping cutscenes or shortening those fucking battle intros?

>> No.10675582

let me guess its going to be 2gb or some shit for no reason

>> No.10675641

>>10674879
>lookin' good

>> No.10675656

>>10674927
>the charm was in its original graphics
Not at all, the charm was in the characters, world, story, and atmosphere. Why are you retards like this?

>> No.10675660

>>10675656
>the charm was in all the things it did worse than the FF games it was so desperate to rip off
Dang that's crazy

>> No.10675683

>>10675660
I like reductio ad absurdum as well, but if you have nothing to contribute then don't bother posting. Watch me do it too
>the charm was in all the things it did worse than the FF games it was so desperate to rip off, including the original graphics

>> No.10675818
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>>10675582
You realize it was a 4-CD game? The ISOs of the PS1 version already take up 2.2GB.

>> No.10675841

is not bad, but the game is in need of a proper model replacement modding and a alternative for vertex wobbling.

>> No.10675846

>>10674879
ASS-tral Drain ;)

>> No.10675875

>>10675818
You can cut that in ~ half if they're CHDs, anon.

>> No.10675878

>>10675818
oh so that means the native port will probably 5gb

>> No.10675927

>>10674913
There is one being worked on, don't know if it's good or not.

>> No.10675941

>>10675565
Yes, you can skip cutscenes, no load times, speedup text, and save anywhere.

>> No.10676085

>>10674879
The only thing I remember about this game is it has the most boss ass menu music ever.

>> No.10676113

Reminder that Rose literally has a move where she farts out a beam of light on the enemies(it legitimately comes straight out of her asshole) and another one where she bleeds black blood out of her vag onto the battleground.

>> No.10676124

>>10676113
>and another one where she bleeds black blood out of her vag onto the battleground

I'll never forget that move, what the hell were they thinking with that animation?

>> No.10677441

>>10674879
Such an average game filled with every trope of character imaginable, with a cool battle system mired by imbalance and with some of the worst voice acting in history.

And still there are gems that make me remember it fondly. Of those I'll mention the song "If you still remember" which to this day make me nostalgic as fuck. It's one of my favorite video game songs if for anything then for evoking that feeling jnside of me when I was still young and moderately happy.

>> No.10677660

>>10677441
For me, it's "Gust of wind..d-dance!"

>> No.10677923

>>10674879
Looks amazing, very impressed.

>> No.10678094

>>10677441
>the song make me nostalgic as fuck
Thank you for typing like a retard.

>> No.10678212

>>10674879
Wan't Legend of Dragoon a really shitty game though?

>> No.10678278

>>10678212
Its alright.

>> No.10678306

>>10678212
It's okay. It's not quite good enough to be an actual hit of the time. It's bland and completely generic from a storyline standpoint. But it's weirdly very playable. The timed attack presses were actually new in RPGs at the time and it's even still moderately enjoyable today. The music is actually quite good at many parts. It had good graphics for the time. It's a 7/10 game of the era that still manages to kinda punch above its weight.

>> No.10678308

>>10674879
Did they fix the translation?

>> No.10678357

>a fucking tripfag on /vr/
Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.10678469

https://github.com/Legend-of-Dragoon-Modding/Severed-Chains
It's weird that there's no previous C/C++ repo with the matching code. Is this thing actually accurate to the original game?

>> No.10678508

>>10674913
How do you know it's a bad translation if you can't read Jap
And if you can, why do you care about a translation?

>> No.10678521

>>10678306
>It's bland and completely generic from a storyline standpoint

People who say this have no idea what the fucking story is about at all, and I doubt they ever played it. The story is the least generic and most off the wall shit bonkers on the PS1.

>> No.10678574

>>10678521
I did, in fact, play it. It's all fuzzy now because it's been fucking 25 years damn near, but I don't recall anything that crazy. A lot of it was super generic and predictable. Like I remember meeting the green dude's family on disc 1, and then he dies and gets replaced with his clone. The main character is super generic. He has a super generic childhood friend female character. Super generic story about fighting an empire. I remember there's some kind of fairly difficult boss fight right at the end of one of the discs against an emperor or king or something. I dunno. From memory it's just this generic topple the empire bullshit but I forget if anything unique even happens later. Nothing in the game stands out as that memorable to me.

>> No.10678590 [DELETED] 

Legend of Dragoon is a fucking dogshit clone of a garbage game called Final Faggotry 7 which is a JRPG (tranny weebshit). Fuck off nigger stop shilling your tranny port here, zoomie. Go back.

>> No.10678593

>>10678590
I don't think it's possible for this post to be any more chinless than it is.

>> No.10678743
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>Another lazy decompilation that is stuck to 60fps at best instead of a proper PC Port
It’s all so tiresome
https://youtu.be/RTpC8QI_dm0?t=564

>> No.10678789

Wouldn't changing the FPS mess up the input timing for the additions?

>> No.10678869

>>10675878
with a native pc port all FMVs can be compressed with h264 or even h265 and probably drop the file size down to under 200mb

>> No.10678948

>>10678869
>compressed
stopped reading there. Why would you do that? 4 gb is nothing compared to quality loss.

>> No.10679012
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>> No.10679024

>>10678948
Because more efficient compression algorithms crop up over time. They allow you to compress something better at the same or even better quality. Even if these formats were available at the time the hardware of the consoles might not have been capable of playing it back in realtime.

Opus for example results in both smaller file sizes but also higher quality audio than MP3, it also requires more processing power than MP3 to play back, and since Opus is 11 years old while MP3 is 32 far less devices, especially older ones, support it.

So h264 would have been completely nonsensical for a PS1 game, but makes sense for a modern PC port of the same game. A lot of video files of older games that are now on GoG or Steam have actually done exactly that. Far easier to use a standard modern codec like that then try to get ancient poor quality codecs working on a modern PC.

>> No.10679260

>>10674879
>this is only now running on pc
not rtro but im never going to get to play bloodborne am i?

>> No.10679280

>>10675818
A LOT of that data is shared between all discs. the only unique data on each disc is fmvs, certain disc specific prerendered backgrounds, and dialogue.

>> No.10679307

>>10678574
Thank you for proving me right.

>> No.10679916

>>10679024
lossy to lossy is a bad idea

>> No.10679921

>>10674879
Will it be any less grindy shit? The random encounters are night time pokemon on steroids. It's a bad game in general

>> No.10680449

>>10674879
I'll never beat that giant dragon on disc 3.

>> No.10680652

>>10679916
There would be no distinguishable quality loss using h264 at crf 18 and the file size would be noticably smaller. You know jack shit.

>> No.10680668

>>10674879
Honestly, what's the point? Anyone interested enough in old JRPGs would've played it by now regardless of graphics.

>> No.10680762
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>>10679916
>>10679024
>>10678948
>>10678869


Left is the ripped .STR file uncompressed.
Right is the encoded .STR file encoded with the following settings

ffmpeg -i "test.avi" -c:a aac -b:a 384k -c:v h264_nvenc -profile:v high -preset slow -pix_fmt yuv420p -rc constqp -no-scenecut 1 -qp 18 "test_encoded.mp4"

the encoded video is only 5MB, the original is 46MB

>> No.10680795

>>10680762
Yeah, left looks much better.
I'm not sure lossy compression is a good idea at this point regarding retro games.
I guess an option could be nice for those who are interested. How many TB does CHD PS1 collection takes?

>> No.10681710

>>10680795
You wouldn't tell in motion, it's going to look different because keyframes are changed around

>> No.10681730

>>10679307
>You didn't play it
>I did
>Oh you don't remember the plot from a game you played over 2 decades ago? Pfft, u didn't play it
Dumb faggot. Go ahead and tell me how "super crazy and off the wall" it is, then.

>> No.10681740

>>10681710
I can, but I enjoy subtle differences regarding encoding. This also is a terrible case for compression. Just look at the edges. That's going to be obvious on a video like this, and I think using AA actually hurts video quality in cases like this.
Codecs aren't designed for PS1 90s animations. They don't produce good results.

Another thing is if this was a game you play over and over again it can be acceptable. You skip cuscenes in DMC after first few times. Vanquish is like 25GB and 20 GB of it is like video.
Do you really skip cutscenes in an RPG?

If you're interested in lowering filesize it might be a better idea to experiment with AV1, or wait for h266.