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Most technologically advanced / best gfx DOS games?
Also, best DOS games in general

>> No.1067068

Quake

>> No.1067067
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1067067

I remember playing QUAKE and NETWORK Q RAC RALLY.
Also loved TIME COMMANDO, but dunno if graphics were so good

>> No.1067079

Some of the late OpenGL games probably.
Ultima Underworld for its time.

>> No.1067078

Do you use a front-end? I like DBGL and D-Fend.

>> No.1067092

>>1067078
I just resurrected an old celeron 400mhz. I´ve installed Windows 98 cuz I remember having little to no trouble using that O.S

>> No.1067112
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>>1067092

>> No.1067134

>>1067057
www.youtube.com/watch?v=51E_G7NCXVM&t=43s
Commanche

>> No.1067148
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1067148

I think Terminator: Future Shock was pretty advanced as it was (I think ?) the first FPS with a full 3D engine in which you could looking in every direction as well, and with 3D models enemies

Great game in any case

>> No.1067150

>>1067067
Any links to this game? PCfriends have conveyed much nostalgia towards Network Q Rally.

>> No.1067170

>>1067150
remove *´s

htt*p://w*ww.doperoms.c*om/files/roms/dos/Network+Q+Rac+Rally+Championship+%281996%29%28Europress+Software%29.zip/596679/Network+Q+Rac+Rally+Championship+.zip

>> No.1067204

TIE-Fighter/X-Wing was MS-DOS based.

I personally enjoyed Lightspeed, which had RPG conversation elements, slight shipbuilding and commerce/trading mechanics and an early 3D space combat engine which would allow you to leave your main ship on autopilot and remotely pilot kamikaze fighters into your enemies.

>> No.1067230
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1067230

Alone in the Dark had a pretty immersive setting for MS-DOS gaming, although my favorite was the first Monkey Island.

That said, I feel like Chip's Challenge was the apex of PC gaming even though its windows. Pic Related.

>> No.1067248
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Obviously this image doesn't have all the greats but it's pretty damn good.

>> No.1067398

>>1067248
i´d prefer the newer and polygon-visuals over the older sprites-based ones

>> No.1067407

Albion has the best sprite work of any DOS game.

>> No.1067574

>>1067230
It was ported to a ton of other home PCs like the Amiga.

>> No.1067580

Obligatory link to my DOS game pack:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/lcs0bemldkckmzd/dosbox.rar

Warning: it's almost 200MB. Well worth it, though.

>> No.1067595

>>1067574
PC-9821, Acorn 32-bit, 3DO, FM Towns and Macintosh but no Amiga

>> No.1067612

>>1067595
Are we talking about Chip's Challenge or Alone in the Dark?

>> No.1067632

>>1067612
Alone in the Dark

>> No.1067692

>>1067248
The ZZT community is pretty much dead, isn't it?

I think ZZT really is one of those games you had to have played back in the day, when it was still widely played. I remember getting on computers at the school library, going home with a floppy disk full of random ZZT worlds, arguing with friends over who the best artist is, joking about Black Metal never coming out, etc.

>> No.1068126

>>1067580
what is that?

>> No.1068439

>>1067204
This

>> No.1069221
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1069221

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Q1L_0uobg

>> No.1069257

Imo. Archimedean dynasty is one of the latest and most sophisticated game on dos.

>> No.1069591

>>1067148
Don't forget the ability to drive cars, fly planes, explore buildings and open environments.

>> No.1070683
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1070683

HEXEN II

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>> No.1070724
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>> No.1070730

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj9CpmTZUqg

>> No.1070740
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1070740

NFS2 S.E

>> No.1070746

>>1070740
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL3BxTpt9IM

>> No.1070765

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae2bldv3a5s

>> No.1071365

>>1070724
why do I prefer the VGA side?

>> No.1071373

I'd say for technologically advanced, Ultima Underworld.

That shit had basic physics and everything

>> No.1071667
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>> No.1071681

200-300gigs of DOS games (eXoDOS collection from pleasuredome tracker) @ https://archive.org/details/vintagesoftware

>> No.1071694
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1071694

SCREAMER RALLY

>> No.1071715

>>1071681
Nice! thx, anon

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>>1071667
Carmageddon fuck yeah!

>> No.1071756

>>1070715

man that level gives me a lot of nostalgia, I remember getting stuck on it for awhile as a kid but mainly because I found it fun to just drive the boat around.

even though the area was filled with tight corridors and shit i almost treated it like a sandbox level.

>> No.1071793
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1071793

I thought this was pretty damn impressive for DOS.

>> No.1071809

>>1071694
>>1071793
Also, network q rally

>> No.1071826

MDK?

>> No.1071902

>>1071667
>>1071746
Still more advanced than 90% of driving games released since.

>> No.1071997

>>1067580
Thanks anon, most of these I already have but I see some that I've missed. I should really upload some of mine like MDK and the 3DREALMS dos games pack.

>> No.1072079

>>1071746
>>1071667
I love Carmageddon. I spent hundreds of hours on it as a kid. Only played Splat Pack for the first time last year (although I had a demo of as a kid). it's cool but I was disappointed by how small and uninteresting most of the new maps were.

I heard there is a strong modding community for it. Any tip? most recommended stuff? I never got into it.

>> No.1072536

>>1071902
the psx verson was hoorrible

>> No.1073220
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1073220

Not trolling, but I loved this one

>> No.1073281

>>1071746
used to love carmageddon as a kid. this pic reminds me of going under the water and picking up that item that makes you bounce, then getting out and bouncing on top of as many peds as possible.

>> No.1073317
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>> No.1073332
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1073332

One of he first games to use high res graphics. classic setting, design and music

>> No.1073384

Which OS should I use for DOS games and old PC games? Getting a VGA monitor soon.

>> No.1073479

>>1073384
Windows 98 Second Edition.

Or Windows 95 OSR 2.5 without Internet Explorer if you want to set up that mess.

You could use 98lite on the Second Edition Installation and get the same memory footprint as that, though.

>> No.1073485

>>1073479
I'm planning on using a fairly average laptop. Am I going to run into problems because of the newer hardware and possible lack of drivers?
Sorry if it's a silly question but I was never very good with this stuff. My brother handled most of the technical stuff back when we were still playing DOS games.

>> No.1073491

>>1073485
Oh shit, I thought you meant like an actual retro rig.

You probably will unless you have an older laptop with a Sound Blaster-compatible audio solution and have less than 512MB RAM.

>> No.1073497

>>1073491
I figured as much. I suppose I'll have to stick to Dosbox then. I heard XP can natively emulate DOS, I was hoping to avoid that because it might create issues but XP seems pretty ideal when it comes to older games with newer hardware.

I should do some research about that.

>> No.1073505

>>1073497
Yeah, stick with DOSBox for DOS games.

However, under XP you can get a program called VDMSound which emulates a Sound Blaster 16 sound card and also NOLFB.COM which does some weird VESA/framebuffer/Mode X/grafxidunno shit that makes a lot of DOS games work fairly well under XP.

Also always check to see if there is a source port or patch of your game available. For example, Descent has a Windows port called D2X-XL that works awesome.

For older Windows games, XP is your best bet. However, if you have a multicore CPU or "hyperthreaded" CPU, some games will have speed issues and you will have to set your CPU affinity of that game in Task Manager to only CPU 0. Early Unreal engine games have this problem.

>> No.1073513

>>1073505
At this rate it's starting to look like a good idea to see if the laptop can run Windows 7 and use a VMbox for XP. Either that or find a way to connect my main computer to the VGA monitor but that's not really the issue.

Also regarding Source port, I usually play source port of older FPS games because I often find them a little hard to control in DosBox. Does Blood have a Source port?

Also, thanks for letting me know about D2X-XL, I've been wanting to give Descent a shot for a while.

>> No.1073581

>>1067580
>200MB
Gee whiz, anon! I might have to make some room for it on my 2 GB hard drive.

>> No.1073920
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>>1073384
>>1073479
>>1073485
>>1073491
>>1073497
>>1073505
>>1073513

http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/5318519/DOS%28Box%29_Games_Bootable_CD_Version_3.1
Maybe you can try this... I´ve downloaded but still not tried it


DOS(Box) Games Bootable CD contains over 190 games for MS-DOS and
over 100 games for Microsoft Windows 3.x. The games can be played
from Windows (tested on Windows XP), Linux (tested on Ubuntu 9.10)
and as the title says, the CD is bootable, which gives you the
ability to play the games in pure MS-DOS mode or from the built-in
Linux distribution (Slax 6.1.2) provided along with the games.

>> No.1074249

>>1071365

Maybe because the overall resolution is approximately in sync with the texture resolution on that side? That's my reason anyway.

Using "high-quality" hardware and settings gives very sharp edges to the polygons, yet heavily blurs the textures (because they're too low-quality to be rendered smoothly without loads of blur). Sharp-edged shapes with blurry images on their sides look like garbage. They look like crudely designed plastic toys that have been ineptly painted. But if you keep everything grainy and use nearest-neighbor texture filtering, the jaggedness of the images on the sides of things match the jaggedness of the edges of things, and a special thing happens: It actually becomes DIFFICULT to tell a fake edge that's just been hand-drawn into a texture from an edge of a polygon.

For instance, in that Quake comparison shot, the long ledge at lower-right looks like a smooth, painted block, while the long ledge at lower-left looks like every one of its speckles MIGHT be as much a part of the ledge's 3D shape as the long corner-edge of it is.

>> No.1074727
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>> No.1074868

>>1074727
That is a windows game.

>> No.1074865

>>1073920
>9 seeders


This is gonna take a while.

>> No.1074881

>>1074868
Originally yes, but after its source code release, it has been ported back to MS-DOS.
Its just the Quakeworld engine, after all.

>> No.1074882 [DELETED] 

>>1074881

>Title: Hexen 2 Source Code
>Author: Raven Software
>Created: 11/10/2000

Not retro.

>> No.1074885

>>1074884
Don't reply to him

>> No.1074884

>>1074882
Okay.

>> No.1074886

>>1074865
...Or not.

>> No.1074890 [DELETED] 

>>1074885
It's not retro fuckwad if it came out on PC after 1999. He's right.

>> No.1074897 [DELETED] 

>>1074890
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexen_2
>NA August 31, 1997


Fucking told, shitposter

>THE CITY OF YOU
>THE PREFECTURE OF YOU

AH HAHAHA FAGGOT

>> No.1074905

>>1074882
By that logic, Doom source ports aren't retro and aren't allowed to be discussed in the Doom General.

>> No.1074912 [DELETED] 

>>1074885
>>1074886
>>1074890
>>1074897
>>1074905

Just trying to point how fucked up /vr/ has become because of this rule that doesn't make sense to begin with.

>platforms launched in 1999 and earlier
>later consoles are not considered retro (including the Dreamcast)

How can you even follow a rule that contradicts itself? That's all.

PS: Hexen 2 is fucking awesome, play it.

>> No.1074913 [DELETED] 

>>1074905
They're not retro.

>> No.1074918

>>1074905
I already told him in this post

>>1074897

Right now his sissy cuckold fat ass is crying that people saw right through his allegedly clever "ruse" and is eating several boxes of Pocky while drinking 20 sixpacks of PBR to ease the pain.

But seriously, just report his posts.

>> No.1074923
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Also, this should be of use for you the next time someone tries to stir the pot

>> No.1076547

>>Chex Quest

>> No.1076557

>>1067632
That explains that, I was confused by the flow of conversation as well.