Xbox

[Anonymous No.10655879]

Why do people compare it to the Dreamcast? Sega is Japanese and Microsoft is American, wtf do those companies have to do with each other?

[Anonymous No.10655884]

Sega was created by Americans.

[Anonymous No.10655924]

>>10655879
sega was founded by a group of american jews
Same with microsoft, Gates is a jew.

[Anonymous No.10655927]

>>10655924
Gates is a WASP, retard.

[Anonymous No.10655929]

https://news.microsoft.com/1998/05/21/microsoft-sega-collaborate-on-dreamcast-the-ultimate-home-video-game-system/

[Anonymous No.10655934]

>>10655879
People mistakenly think Xbox was the first Microsoft game console. It was not, Dreamcast was. They worked together with SEGA before making their own console

[Anonymous No.10655937]

>>10655879
Because it got games like DOA3, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue 2, Crazy Taxi 3 and Gunvalkyrie which would have been on the Dreamcast if it had lived longer.

[Anonymous No.10655950]

>>10655879
It's some weird forced meme. Really the PS2 was the dreamcast 2.

[Anonymous No.10655956]

>>10655937
Jet Set Radio Future as well

Meanwhile PS2 had a bunch of Saturn ports in Japan and GameCube had Billy Hatcher

[Anonymous No.10655978]

>>10655879
Xbox was even going to run Dreamcast games at one point, but they decided not to add support for a failed console. I think Xbox would have more success if it did.

[Anonymous No.10655983]

>>10655927
Wrong, research his family ancestry

[Anonymous No.10655989]

>>10655924
>>10655884
Everything of importance was made by the Japs. The games, the systems, the devs

[Anonymous No.10656007]

It's a cope by segatards who moved to the xbox after the DC failed because of shame of joining old competitors. In fact both PS2 and GC received their fair share of Sega games as well, so the usual argument doesn't hold any water.

[Anonymous No.10656009]

>>10655983
I did. And he's from an English protestant family.

[Anonymous No.10656012]

>>10655989
Modern Japan was created by Americans.

[Anonymous No.10656043]

>>10655989
>the system
Americans and Brits developed the RISC CPU tech and PowerVR.
>the games
Americans and Brits had been doing full 3D commercial games since the early 80s.
>the devs
Ameriboos.

[Anonymous No.10656175]

>>10655879
sega games and tecmo games

[Anonymous No.10656184]

>>10655879
It had sequels to a bunch of Dreamcast games.

[Anonymous No.10656204]

>>10655879
Sega put a lot of games on the XBox.

I get the impression that they were pissed off at Sony, and maybe still had a rivalry with Nintendo, so they stuck a lot of games and sequels over on XBox to still act as the competition. They might've also been trying to bet on the XBox doing well in NA and Europe, as a way of beating out Nintendo and Sony.

[Anonymous No.10656231]

>exclusive Panzer Dragoon game
>exclusive Crazy Taxi game
>exclusive Toejam and Earl game
>exclusive Jet Set Radio game
>exclusive Sega GT game
>exclusive House of the Dead game
>exclusive Outrun game
>exclusive Spikeout game
>US exclusive Shenmue game
>GunValkyrie
>Otogi
GEE I WONDER WHY, MUST BE THOSE HECKIN XBOX FANBOYS MAKING UP SHIT AS USUAL

[Anonymous No.10656257]

>>10656204
I think there were real plans to turn the Xbox into "Dreamcast 2.0", i.e. another console sold with Sega branding but engineered and manufactured almost completely by Microsoft this time. Dreamcast already prominently displayed the Windows logo on the front on the console. Microsoft had the money to produce good hardware and Sega knew how to make good games. Maybe Sega broke off that deal because they decided that selling some of their exclusives to Sony and Nintendo and releasing other games as multiplats would be the safer and more profitable choice. In the "Dreamcast 2.0" scenario, they swim or sink together with Microsoft, really.

[Anonymous No.10656370]

>>10656231
all these licenses are dead.
they sold poorly on Xbox.
Sega concluded that people didn't want it anymore.

[Anonymous No.10656379]

I dunno.

[Anonymous No.10656405]

>>10655879
Xbox is the spiritual successor of the Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.10656412]

>>10656379
Thanks, I just realized something that triggers my OCD because of you.

[Anonymous No.10656417]

>>10656012
>americans gave Japan ancient culture and traditions but fogot to make some for themselves
So selfless

[Anonymous No.10656436]

>>10656379
awww they look cute together!

[Anonymous No.10656446]

>>10655879
Microsoft worked with Sega on the dreamcast, the xbox controller is a clear evolution of the dreamcast controller, and Sega put a lot of their games on xbox exclusively.

[Anonymous No.10656450]

>>10656412
>I just realized something
Xbox color scheme superiority? Yes it's the only one that makes sense.

[Anonymous No.10656451]

>>10656446
>the xbox controller is a clear evolution of the dreamcast controller
You mean they're both oversized pieces of shit?

[Anonymous No.10656452]

>>10656417
Nah, only modern Japanese culture is American.
The ancient one is Chinese instead.

[Anonymous No.10656453]

>>10655989

Everything you love about Japan was Japan copying America.

[Anonymous No.10656454]

>>10656453
And surpassing it

[Anonymous No.10656458]

>>10656417

>hurr durr Americans have no culture and tradition

kek you're just a basic liberal with no knowledge of the real world

[Anonymous No.10656464]

>>10656458
>liberal
I'm not american though.
>no knowledge of the real world
I live in the real world, not in America.

[Anonymous No.10656467]

>>10656452

and ancient Chinese culture comes from ancient White people

[Anonymous No.10656473]

>>10656454

>surpass

Nah, they're a time-capsule of decades old ideas. Literally the opposite of "surpassing".

[Anonymous No.10656474]

>>10656412
Those M&M's look delicious

[Anonymous No.10656479]

>>10656473
Progress isn't necessary to surpass inferior cultures. Conservation is the way to remain ahead of cultures that are being devoured by progress.

[Anonymous No.10656484]

>>10656479
Yeah we should never let emails and clouds devour those fax machines.

[Anonymous No.10656489]

>>10656370
Irrelevant. You have your answer, you can stop crying now.

[Anonymous No.10656491]

>>10656464
>I live in the real world, not in America.
that makes no sense

[Anonymous No.10656496]

>>10656491
Americans live in a plastic, beautyless, shallow, amoral culture and society.
Your people come to my country to experience beauty and authentic living.

[Anonymous No.10656501]

>>10656479

the student is inferior to the teacher

bad experiments afforded by success will fade

[Anonymous No.10656503]

>>10656496
Japs live in tiny concrete boxes in massive cities like sardines and play eroge or go to prostitutes for a hug instead of forming real families.

[Anonymous No.10656507]

You are a terminally online foreigner with a sad coping mechanism against the wonderful land of America. You don't deserve the tourism.

[Anonymous No.10656509]

>>10656496

[Anonymous No.10656514]

>>10656007
Virtua Fighter 4 is a really cool port, I like the NAOMI 2 version's aesthetic more but they changed the art just enough that it's difficult to compare which version is more technically impressive, outside of the obvious texture resolution differences. PS2 gave devs enough processing power to crunch through even the most intense arcade games from just a year before - that must have been an incredible feeling. The only arcade games that would've suffered notable graphical cuts, Sega Hikaru games, were few in number and were barely ported anywhere, if at all.

Same with GC and doubly so for Xbox, but PS2 gets points for being there the earliest and for being the weirdest hardware. Xbox probably could have pulled off a handful of Chihiro games, though not with Phong shading intact. Not a big deal; clever style and art choices could easily overcome lack of graphical features once the 6th gen arrived. Need that phong shading gloss? Just slap a spheremap on that shit. Who'll know?

All this to say that VF4 is one of the most ambitious successful ports of all time, radically changing a lot of the art in order to fit the hardware limitations and even take advantage of things they couldn't do on NAOMI 2 (more simultaneous active lights!) without rushing or delaying, not even a hint of unfinished porting.

[Anonymous No.10656613]

>>10655879
>>10655929
Xbox should have had more Dreamcast ports

[Anonymous No.10656678]

>>10655934
this. Dreamcast had all those Windows CE ports
>>10655950
>Really the PS2 was the dreamcast 2.

most sega exclusives on ps2 were those low budget 3d remakes

[Anonymous No.10656919]

>>10656509
That phenomenon exists for a reason

[Anonymous No.10657170]

>>10655879
Time to get educated zoom zoom
>Xbox controller is a dreamcast one with an extra stick and buttons
>Sega published niche titles on it like Shenmue 2, JSRF, Orta
>Both consoles tried sell online multiplayer
>Both consoles had an impasse with EA games; EA didn't make their titles Xbox Live compatible for two years, while they also completely ignored the Dreamcast
>microsoft even flirted with Dreamcast back compat before dropping it for cost reasons

[Anonymous No.10657176]

>>10655978
Xbox defeated Nintendo in their first ever attempt in the console industry, I’d call that a win.
Making the console potentially more expensive to have backwards compatibility with games that weren’t being pressed to disc anymore doesn’t make much logistical sense.
Xbox had the sequels to all the Dreamcast exclusives, that filled the same niche and made the same sales with Sega consumer base.

[Anonymous No.10657314]

>>10655989
Today, I will remind them.

[Anonymous No.10657332]

>>10655879
Sega and Microsoft were close in those days. One of their arcade boards after the Dreamcast died was based on Xbox hardware. Outrun 2 was one of the games made to run on it IIRC.

[Radiochan !!8R5IcuH3PgQ No.10657362]

>>10655879
because MS literally partnered with SEGA to create the Dreamcast and later relied on SEGA to bring a bunch of their IPs, especially Shenmue, to it

[Anonymous No.10657425]

>>10656919
Which reason?

[Anonymous No.10657501]

>>10657425
There really is something special about the japanese way.
Nobody gushes over Canada or Singapore like they do with Japan.

[Anonymous No.10657678]

>>10655927
Get a load of this tard.

[Anonymous No.10657686]

>>10655934
This. Also, Sega was did quite alot with Chiro, XBox for the arcade.

[Anonymous No.10657687]

>>10656509
even in gaming its applicable
rehashing gameplay mechanics is bad in assassins creed, however rehashing entire locations and minigames in yakuza is "great"

[Anonymous No.10657715]

>>10657501
>There really is something special about the japanese way.
Yeah, underage cartoon girls.

[Anonymous No.10657858]

>>10655924
>Gates is a jew

More /pol/ sperging and gaslighting about how everyone famous is a jew even when they aren't? It's all so tiring.

[Anonymous No.10659939]

>>10655879

[Anonymous No.10659946]

>>10655978
That would have been an awesome feature holy shit

[Anonymous No.10659969]

>>10656417
He's right though. The only reason why Japan saw an economic emergence in the 60-70's is due to America giving them significant financial assistance. Ironically you can thank the Korean War for that since we needed mass produced weaponry and the Japanese factories that were still intact were key in producing it in a quick succession logistically to the frontline in Korea, on top of a stable ally for the encroaching communist in the far east.

[Anonymous No.10659976]

>>10657501
>There really is something special about the japanese way.
Don't be stupid, only reason you care about Japan is due to anime and videogames. If not for that, you wouldn't have given them a single thought.
You also wouldn't want to live there, it's not special anon, if you're not a hardworking salary man, you end up killing yourself in a mountainous forest from a piece of rope.

[Anonymous No.10659983]

>>10656417
He's right though. The only reason why Japan saw an economic emergence in the 60-70's is due to America giving them significant financial assistance. Ironically you can thank the Korean War for that since we needed mass produced weaponry and the Japanese factories that were still intact were key in producing it in a quick succession logistically to the frontline in Korea, on top of a stable ally for the encroaching communist in the far east.
Also janny, why did you delete my comment?

[Anonymous No.10659993]

>>10657362
Not to mention they filled a gap with Sega leaving the hardware industry on top of Peter Moore joining MS after working with Sega of America.

[Anonymous No.10660009]

>>10656451
-.t handlet

[Anonymous No.10661376]

>>10655879
Microsoft ripped off a lot of Sega's games like Panzer & Shenmue.

[Anonymous No.10661514]

>>10657176
You are on /vr/ arguing who would want play older games.
Do you really?

Also who cares about GameCube? It was a failure anyway.
Xbox should have beaten PS2. Xbox was the superior console.

[Anonymous No.10661528]

All the 6th gen consoles got Sega games after the dreamcast. Gamecube got Monkey Ball and (this was later ported to ps2 and xbox) and ports (sonic adventure, skies of arcadia, pso), ps2 got shinobi, yakuza etc and xbox got a lot of stuff. I agree that the xbox was not the second dreamcast or it's successor, because Sega made games for every console. One being japanese and the other american didn't really have anything to do with it

[Anonymous No.10661924]

>>10655879
Microsoft developed a custom Dreamcast version of Windows CE.

[Anonymous No.10661932]

>>10655978
Why are you talking like the Xbox didn't absolutely dominate that generation and leading to it being the biggest console up today pushing Nintendo to the sidelines as a niche console that relies on nostalgia and their in-house exclusives with PlayStation barely hanging on kept afloat only by bribing studios to keep some console games exclusive to them most of which are available on steam anyways?

[Anonymous No.10661937]

>>10655929
OP utterly BTFO

[Anonymous No.10662026]

>>10661932
Xbox sold 180 million units in its first month. Fearing not being able to keep up with demand, Microsoft temporarily raised the console's price to $1000. It wasn't effective, as it sold 210 million units the following month. Things only returned to normal when a team of Sony executives personally went to Microsoft's offices and knelt and begged for mercy. Not wanting a victory that easy, Microsoft stopped production until the end of the gen. PlayStation 2, then, sold its first unit.

[Anonymous No.10662092]

>>10655937
and Rent-a-Hero No.1 and Toejam & Earl 3 and Outrun 2 and the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous No.10662105]

>>10655879
well gee let's see.

- it entered the market just when Sega exited the market
- it had the most original Sega titles of the generation
- it had large focus on online gaming just like the DC, and was the only other console that came with online prebuilt in the console
- the architecture was a lot like a PC, so was the DC (games being easy to port from PC to DC was something very often mentioned at the time)
- DC had a Microsoft logo on it too.
- American. The only point Sega was ever significant in any market was in America with the Genesis
- controller was meant to have a VMU-like slot in the middle originally. it was covered up by the huge green gem when the idea was shelved.
- xbox was meant to have DC compatibility at some point. it was shelved because Microsoft didn't want to make the console even more expensive to produce.

xbox was literally the Dreamcast 2.