Crt

[Anonymous No.10654874]

/crt/ thread

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[Anonymous No.10654891]

Finally a non-audiocucked setup.

[Anonymous No.10654894]

>>10654874
KV-32S42 on s-video

[Anonymous No.10654901]

>>10654874
>dinky tray table for a massive tv
oof right in the structural engineering

[Anonymous No.10654904]

>>10654901
not that anon but its fuckin impossible to find good CRT stands that dont look like shit these days
you almost have to get a corner stand if you have anything bigger than a 20"

[Anonymous No.10654913]

>>10654904
ive been using an ikea svalov end table (20"sq top) i bought in 2007, it has skid bases which is great for moving it around on carpet

[Anonymous No.10654934]

[Anonymous No.10654959]

I'm considering moving my TV over to my little PC desk on the right side of this pic. I sat on it, and I weigh 154 lbs and it didn't collapse under my weight, and this TV is apparently 104 lbs, so it should be able to support its weight.

Honestly, I have no idea how this little wooden side table somehow managed to support this TV's weight for half a year. I kept thinking it would collapse any day.
>>10654894
>32
Lucky. I've got a KV-27FV16 here, also using S-video.

[Anonymous No.10655006]

>>10654959
Bump it from the side and see if it becomes a one time folding table.

[Anonymous No.10655021]

>>10654874
Dude please tidy the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.10655028]

In my research of arcade monitor specifications I've been looking for any information to allow them to be compared in terms of TVL ratings to consumer television and video monitors.
See what you think of my math.

540 / 0.8 = 675 dots (manual says 676 for unknown reason)

But this 675 is across the whole width of the display. To measure TVL you only measure across the width an amount equal to the height of the viewable display space.
That is quoted in the manual to be 405mm.

675 / 540 = 1.25 dots per mm

405 * 1.25 = 506 dots

That would suggest 506 TVL. However, I strongly suspect it would be lower due to the lines blurring together at that fine of a test pattern if displayed.

400 TVL maybe for this tube? 450?

Source:
https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/images/3/34/MS-2931_Service-manual_full.pdf

[Anonymous No.10655045]

>>10654874

I just got the PS2 slim. I still gotta hook that one up.

[Anonymous No.10655046]

>>10654904
I have a 32" D-Series and bought one of these:

https://www.ashleyfurniture.com/p/watson_end_table/T481-2.html

It's a perfect height for a larger TV and its made of solid wood so it's more than sturdy enough. Plus it's simple enough that it goes with most decor.

>>10654874
I don't have a picture at the moment but my favorite TV and really my end game grail is a Toshiba 36A41 I've been lucky enough to have in the family since new. It's in storage right now because I lack the space for the time being but my uncle was the original owner. I consider it the perfect TV. Curved glass shadowmask with component is exactly what I want. And Toshiba made the absolute best of the best of that type, which is why I'm constantly surprised it doesn't get as much love as Sony and JVC. If I absolutely need to I'll ditch the D-Series but I'm hoping to get enough room to keep both.

[Anonymous No.10655050]

I ordered a second pair of these for $42 for a setup corner I have. I want to use one set for a 13" Toshiba CRT for NES, Genesis and PC Engine games and the second set for a PC Monitor for Dreamcast games for VGA goodness.

[Anonymous No.10655059]

>>10655028
You can also do this another way. Take the number of horizontal dots and divide by 1.333 (4:3 in decimal).
That gives the same number of 506.

[Anonymous No.10655060]

>>10655006
It probably would. Every time I changed the cables, I feared that alone would cave the table in. Never even bothered cleaning the screen. But if that tiny table can support it, then I'm sure actual steel legs can.

[Anonymous No.10655192]

>>10654894
This is the sexiest pic of a CRT I've seen in a while.

[Anonymous No.10655247]

>>10654891
>Altec Lansing slop
Still cucked

[Anonymous No.10655506]

Got one of wakabavideo/linuxbot3000's video transcoders and some Extron cables on the way.
The time for gaming is nigh.

[Anonymous No.10655508]

misconception: CRTs are good

reality: CRTs are bad

[Anonymous No.10655509]

>>10655050
why would you do that? are you not allowed to have better speakers you could get for free?

[Anonymous No.10655523]

>>10655508
>>10655509
kys

[Anonymous No.10655686]

I wanna pickup a CRT monitor but not sure what to choose between HP or a viewsonic

[Anonymous No.10655693]

I hate living in a place where people want $100 to $200 for a CRT. Wtf do I do?

[Anonymous No.10655718]

>>10655686
PC CRTs are rarely worthwhile desu

>>10655693
where's that? there's probably places you can find a quality slot mask for free/cheap

[Anonymous No.10655723]

>>10655718
Eh?
Wouldn't say that, they're good for 480p and retro PC gaming, especially all those old 2D RPG's and RTS games

[Anonymous No.10655724]

>>10655718
It'd mainly be used as a passive display anyway or for watching anime

[Anonymous No.10655728]

>>10655723
those games are much more enjoyable without eyestrain and headaches, and shadow mask shaders are pretty good now if you have a 4K display

[Anonymous No.10655730]

>>10655728
Nah, you're tripping mate

[Anonymous No.10655735]

>>10655247
Yea the right speaker broke. So i added an amp. You can see it on top.
Im surprised you know that brand.

[Anonymous No.10655746]

>>10655718
slot mask? and doubtful I live in Raleigh, NC i've looked everywhere here, I mainly want a CRT monitor though cause the high pitch noise of TVs really fucks with my tinnitus.

[Anonymous No.10655751]

>>10655746
>fucks with my tinnitus.
anon what?
how could you possibly hear the sound if you have tinnitus, it's the same sound

[Anonymous No.10655753]

>>10655751
nah its higher pitch, my tinnitus isn't extremely bad, but when I hear the TV it becomes really bad.

[Anonymous No.10655754]

>>10654901

[Anonymous No.10655769]

>>10655724
Yeah a used PC CRT is great for that. I used to have a 19-inch Dell I got for free because it had a smashed casing. It burned out after a few years and I didn't care to fix it, but it was definitely great for watching old 4:3 SD content, especially anime.

But to answer your question, I'd lean toward the Viewsonic just from personal experience and memory, but the real answer is to take whichever is in better shape after 20+ years on this godforsaken earth.

[Anonymous No.10655778]

>>10655754
I find this entire room unsettling on a spiritual level.

[Anonymous No.10655782]

>>10655778
It definitely isn't very well thought out is it

[Anonymous No.10655783]

>>10655693
I remember i picked up 3 in one day. From craiglist . I live by Pittsburgh Pennsylvania

[Anonymous No.10655785]

>>10655778
Im schizophrenic dude

[Anonymous No.10655789]

My main monitor has been down for a while, but I finally got it fixed and have been shaking off the cobwebs with my umpteenth FF7 playthrough. These pre-rendered backgrounds are just peak soul.

[Anonymous No.10655792]

>>10655778
>>10655782
You should see the other sides of the room
I can post it when i get home at 4pm

[Anonymous No.10655794]

Also kinda getting me hyped for part two of the remake. Not that I think it's amazing or anything, but I do enjoy seeing them extrapolate fully 3D environments from these 25-year-old renders, even if they are less soulful.

[Anonymous No.10655798]

[Anonymous No.10655802]

>>10655778

[Anonymous No.10655805]

And a shot of my little game corner. This room is cold as fuck in the winter, but that just makes it all the more cozy. Nothing warms the heart like huddling in a blanket around the soft glow of the tube.

[Anonymous No.10655813]

>>10655805
>This room is cold as fuck in the winter
do you not have heat, anon?

[Anonymous No.10655823]

>>10655805
You have a heater but i guess its not stronk enough

[Anonymous No.10655837]

>>10655813
I do. It's just an old house, and that room is actually a converted sunroom with a fuckton of ancient windows so it's kind of drafty. But I like it because it's the last room in the house that hasn't been renovated since the 70s so it has wood paneling and is generally very comfy. Also I can crank the volume and not disturb my wife as much.

>>10655823
I just use the heater to take the chill off when it's super cold. If I leave it running, it'll make it quite toasty, but I prefer a slight chill. Sometimes my kot comes to help warm me up, too.

[Anonymous No.10655847]

>>10655837
>I can crank the volume and not disturb my wife as much.
Ah. So your wife made you put it out there.

[Anonymous No.10655850]

>>10655837
I miss when i had this heater

[Anonymous No.10655854]

>>10655754
>how many wires you want f.am
>all of them, but somehow worse

[Anonymous No.10655864]

>>10655847
lol no. She actually assumed I was going to set up the CRT in the living room when we moved in together. I decided myself to put it in the sunroom because of the wood paneling and because I like the privacy. Of course, my setup was much smaller back then, before I added the chunky amp, equalizer, bigger speakers, subwoofer, etc.

Also I don't think she expected it to be as loud as it is, lol. One time I was playing FF7 and I cast Beta and the whole fucking house vibrated. She thought the water heater was getting ready to explode or something.

[Anonymous No.10655890]

>>10655864
>the whole fucking house vibrated.
>those dinky speakers
doubt. but at least you're not completely audiocucked

[Anonymous No.10655892]

>>10655850
I feel like I remember seeing daytime TV commercials for that heater. Trying to sell it to all the eternally-cold grandmas as they watched their stories.

[Anonymous No.10656083]

[Anonymous No.10656157]

>>10654874
My RGB Xstation ps1 setup. Need to thrift a stand to replace my moms old filing cabinet.

[Anonymous No.10656194]

>>10655805
>comfy VU meters
Mr. Coates approves

[Anonymous No.10656245]

>>10655890
I upgraded. But true rumble is still mostly a product of the subwoofer. Best 20 bucks I ever spent.

[Anonymous No.10656256]

>>10655028
Beam focus plays a role too. The physical TVL of the mask might be 506, but you're not getting all of it.

[Anonymous No.10656262]

>>10655718
>PC CRTs are rarely worthwhile desu
TV for 240p/480i and the likes, VGA CRT for 480p and up, simple as.

[Anonymous No.10656268]

My CRT monitor is making noise every five minutes or so. How the fuck do I stop that from happening? It's driving me insane. Model is an eMachines Eview 15P

[Anonymous No.10656271]

>>10654874
Do your wife make you put all that away and fold the table up when you're not using it? Be honest

[Anonymous No.10656302]

>>10656268
Describe noise

[Anonymous No.10656309]

>>10656271
No. This is just like an experiment setup i put up. To test brightness of games. And it is different. My other tvs are darker.
Cant see in some games on the other tv.

[Anonymous No.10656317]

>>10656302
Extremely high pitched screaming noise. Starts at a lower sound level then eventually gets louder and louder until it goes back to being quiet again.

[Anonymous No.10656330]

>>10656317
Capacitor most likely
Could be something else but the capacitors are usually the first ones to vibrate

[Anonymous No.10656339]

>>10656245
>fell for the pvmeme
soulless

[Anonymous No.10656349]

Barco is pretty cool

[Anonymous No.10656353]

>>10656339
I have three different CRTs that I swap out as the situation demands. I'm not going to pretend that the PVM isn't the best, though.

[Anonymous No.10656372]

>>10656353
my other is a 27" JVC that I got with the intention of using for 6th gen games because I think fully 3D environments do benefit from more screen real estate, but to be quite honest, 480i content still looks so much better on the PVM that I'm fine with just scooting my chair closer.

[Anonymous No.10656374]

>>10654874
Bro spent all that money on audio equipment and then puts his CRT on a foldable TV tray.

[Anonymous No.10656390]

>>10656339
Sour grapes.

[Anonymous No.10656392]

>>10654894
HON HON HON HON

[Anonymous No.10656394]

>>10655693
check facebook marketplace/craigslist every single day until you find someone basically giving them away

[Anonymous No.10656406]

>>10656245
That looks extremely comfy

[Anonymous No.10656414]

I have 4 CRTs that don't work properly due to power failures.
1 was part of my main rig that no longer powers on
2 are ViewSonic PC monitors, 1 flat out doesn't turn on and the other "blinks"
1 will randomly turn itself on or off whenever its plugged in
I think I'm starting to regret collecting these things, bros.

[Anonymous No.10656434]

>>10656390
P/BVMs are fun but a 28" consumer TV is better then a 20" PVM, size matters most.
Im glad I have a 28" PVM

[Anonymous No.10656459]

>>10656406
It is. It's actually theraputic to me and I don't realize it. Sometimes I'll go several months without using it because of my monitor needing repairs or something, and the depression really starts to settle in.

>>10656414
Part of the territory, sadly. Power supply issues are fairly straightforward, though. If you can find maintenance manuals for any of your specific monitors, you'd be surprised how often OEM parts are availabe on ebay. I basically have search alerts for almost any kind of PVM parts, which I will buy and stockpile immediately.

>>10656434
>size matters most.
Unless you just... sit closer. The only way size matters is if you regularly do multiplayer stuff with friends. I have a friend coming over tonight to play some stuff, actually, and I usually switch out to my 27" consumer model for that, but we've played on the 20 just fine.

[Anonymous No.10656468]

>>10656434
>size matters most.
it's funny that you used an image with exaggerated pixels which would actually objectively look better on a smaller tube

[Anonymous No.10656476]

>>10656459
>just sit closer
nah.
Bigger size allows you to sit more comfortably and bigger tubes are generally sharper and more impressive.
There is a reason the bigger TVs were alot more expensive back in the day, everyone wanted a big one

[Anonymous No.10656481]

>>10656468
Still all depends on the distance from the screen and the TVL.

[Anonymous No.10656486]

>>10656468
a 20 inch PVM will have higher TVL than a 32 inch consumer set... it would look even more "pixely"

[Anonymous No.10656497]

>>10656486
CRTs don't have pixels, retard.

>>10656476
>bigger tubes are generally sharper
objectively wrong
>There is a reason the bigger TVs were alot more expensive back in the day, everyone wanted a big one
Which has nothing to do with quality of picture. Thanks for proving that you know jack shit about any of this. Consumers are morons.

[Anonymous No.10656504]

>>10655509
Limited space and those speakers do what I need.

[Anonymous No.10656508]

>>10656497
>CRTs don't have pixels, retard.
I never claimed they did? The art style in >>10656434 is pixely.
I was replying to >>10656468

[Anonymous No.10656513]

>>10656497
>objectively wrong
Majority of smaller tubes will have lower TVL too. So yeah, objectively right. Nobody was specifically talking about higher TVL PVMs or related, but tubes in general.

[Anonymous No.10656516]

Neat, stupid arguments. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped coming here.

Anyway, here's a pic of my wife playing Dr. Mario on an old D-series back when we were dating.

[Anonymous No.10656520]

>>10656513
Except a bigger or smaller size literally makes the image look sharper to a greater degree than the effect of more or less TVL. The exact same model of set in two different sizes will ALWAYS look sharper when it's smaller.

[Anonymous No.10656527]

>>10656245
Nice setup with the speakers

[Anonymous No.10656532]

>>10656516
delete this

[Anonymous No.10656537]

>>10656434
Small pvms aren't worth it. I sold mine.

[Anonymous No.10656546]

[Anonymous No.10656560]

Screen captured crt

https://youtu.be/FgLiDWReDLk?si=rEa9kqdvRCu7FeED

[Anonymous No.10656582]

>>10656390
Arcade cabinets didn't have PVMs in them. Anyone who prefers authenticity goes with consumer slotmasks. Fuck off with that shit.

[Anonymous No.10656584]

>>10656434
The only professional monitor I'd actually want is an XM29. But unlike PVMs those are legitimately rare and I've never seen one in person.

[Anonymous No.10656828]

>>10656520
Depends what tubes it uses, just because it's the same model doesn't even mean the tubes are from the same manufacturer. Mostly brands that make their own tubes stick to their own tubes, i.e. Sony. But even then it depends on size difference and TVL, it's not always.

[Anonymous No.10656835]

I don’t know how to organize my setup. Should I put my 27” consoomer trinitron and my 20” pvm side by side on a tv stand? Or should I put my 20” pvm on the desk next to my pc crt?

[Anonymous No.10656946]

>>10656828
TVL is something of a farce. It really only matters when distinguishing between monitor types, like a consumer versus professional. Within a class though? It's largely an illusion. Not only did manufacturers lie, the technology was very mature by the 90s and 2000s. 90% of the image quality is the chassis, not the tube.

[Anonymous No.10656976]

>>10654874
picked up this goofy and fairly useless nugget today at my regular thrifting spot. probably should have passed on it but i can't resist mini CRTs when i run across them in the wild

[Anonymous No.10657014]

>>10656835
You should use them individually. Swap them out from time to time.

[Anonymous No.10657038]

>>10656946
>It's largely an illusion.
You clearly never owned a large collection of consumer tubes.
Even with PVMs the same size, TVL makes a big difference.

TVL and pitch play a huge role even within a class, doesn't matter what type of mask/grille it uses or if it's a TV, PVM, VGA monitor, etc.

>90% of the image quality is the chassis, not the tube.
No. Other way around and chassis mostly even plays a role only in professional or high end monitors.

Also I don't know what you're on about with manufacturers lying, TVL can easily be measured yourself.

Don't know if you're trolling or...

[Anonymous No.10657164]

>>10654904
I use ikea kallax with some drill-on furniture feet I bought off of amazon. I also bought these shelf dividers off of etsy (because the official ikea dividers are fucking impossible to buy) and have most of my consoles tucked into them. Except the original Xbox, thing is too fucking fat to get into the shelf with the dividers on.

[Anonymous No.10657189]

>It's a massive service cap with beach towel sized safari flaps in the back.
Just now realizing there was barely any reason to transfer Suikoden I and II data into III

[Anonymous No.10657207]

[Anonymous No.10657210]

>>10657207
These are the best shadow mask consumer sets.

[Anonymous No.10657212]

>>10657038
>You clearly never owned a large collection of consumer tubes.
Don't make assumptions. At far edges, sure, it makes a difference. But my point is that most of the conversation about TVL isn't at those edges. You see people arguing TVL between JVC and Samsung and at that point the differences, to whatever extent they exist, is pretty low on the list of things that are going to actually affect the picture quality. Again, the chassis makes more of a difference within a range. It's why a Toshiba tube in a JVC D-Series will look noticeably worse than the same tube in a Toshiba A Series. Tubes are pretty "dumb." The electronics driving it has waaaaay more sway over what the image looks like than the TVL. I'd argue even the type of mask matters more. Unless, again, it's at the far edges. But you're not going to find 800-1000 TVL tubes in a consumer chassis anyway. I think one of the most common example of what I'm talking about is the M tube you can find in some 32" JVCs. Yes, they look a little different but the effect is minimal compared to the weight people give to it.

Personally I'm interested in that universal chassis RetroRGB talked about a while back. It's in early development but if it pans out then you'll be able to drop in whatever tube you want and have a multisync monitor with every input under the sun. At that point even "low" TVL tubes will look fantastic.

[Anonymous No.10657216]

>>10657038
>Also I don't know what you're on about with manufacturers lying, TVL can easily be measured yourself.
JVC routinely claimed it's D-Series sets were 800TVL, which is a lie. Or at least VERY deceptive.

[Anonymous No.10657218]

>>10657210
Toshibas are better. Mark my words, JVCs are good reliable sets that are plentiful enough that you won't go wrong. But Toshiba A Series kick the shit out of them.

[Anonymous No.10657224]

>>10654874

[Anonymous No.10657226]

>>10657212
>I'd argue even the type of mask matters more
Which is part of the tube.

>But you're not going to find 800-1000 TVL tubes in a consumer chassis anyway.
Got a 800 TVL (verified) consumer 15kHz monitor right here, not even a PVM.

[Anonymous No.10657227]

>>10657226
>Got a 800 TVL (verified) consumer 15kHz monitor right here, not even a PVM.
What is it? Are you talking a computer monitor? I'm talking TVs.

[Anonymous No.10657232]

>>10657227
>I'm talking TVs.
Ah okay, I thought you meant consumer hardware in general.

[Anonymous No.10657238]

>>10656486
>a 20 inch PVM will have higher TVL than a 32 inch consumer set
Not always. The older PVMs had ratings of 350 to 560 TVL and there have been various premium grade 32" consumer televisions which surpassed that.

[Anonymous No.10657240]

>>10657207
redpill me on JVC

[Anonymous No.10657241]

>>10657232
Ah, no. You're right in the larger conversation that TVL "matters." I'm just talking in the very specific niche of consumer TVs where people argue TVL. You can also lump arcade monitors in there, too, which are often consumer grade. Once you get into computer monitors, professional monitors, etc. things change. But at the same time, the whole display "changed" because it's built for a different purpose. The gist of what I'm saying is TVL doesn't matter that much in some specific contexts where it comes up.

[Anonymous No.10657246]

>>10657241
>The gist of what I'm saying is TVL doesn't matter that much in some specific contexts where it comes up.
Yeah that's true.

[Anonymous No.10657250]

>>10656520
The smaller size making the image look sharper is a subjective matter.

It is a matter of objective fact that the same slot pitch was used on tubes of different sizes. For example 25" and 29" arcade monitors have both used a .8mm center pitch. But on the 29" monitor this means the .8mm is a relatively finer pitch than it is on the 25" monitor.

[Anonymous No.10657260]

>>10656497
>>10656520
I was talking about actual sharpness not percieved sharpness.
Yes bigger tubes at the same resolution will look less sharp if you sit at the same distance, but you get the luxury of not having to sit too close and having a bigger image.
I actually have a 9" PVM lying around and let me tell you I would never use that over a 20" consumer TV.
Bigger is better.

[Anonymous No.10657261]

>>10654904
consider: they sell project boards at home depot and lowes of all manner of sizes, as well as metal pipes and fittings but also beams such as 2x4 lumber. this sounds crazy, but you might be able to devise a way to fasten some of these things together to create some kind of platform that could bear weight.

despite my sarcasm, i actually don't encourage anyone to do something fucking dumb like pay money for an ancient CRT and actually keep it in your home. I grew up with them. they're bad. trust.

[Anonymous No.10657263]

>>10657218
Really,I have a Toshiba. Don't know if that's an A series though. I started to go down the rabbit hole of collecting CRTs. I ha e a 20" jvc d series too. This Toshiba is just so nice because it's 27"

[Anonymous No.10657264]

>>10657038
>Don't know if you're trolling or...
Stop it.

[Anonymous No.10657267]

>>10657240
They're curved glass slotmask consumer TVs with component. That makes them very similar to the kind of tubes found in arcade cabinets. They're also often free because there's less demand for non-Sony TVs. That said, JVC didn't make their own tubes so it's a lottery what you'll get inside. They sourced tubes from a good half dozen manufacturers over the years. Another downside is the build quality of the chassis can sometimes leave something to be desired. They've been known to suffer capacitor plague.

Like I said here >>10655046
If you want a JVC I HIGHLY suggest looking for a Toshiba A series instead. They're the same type of TV except better. Just look for a true Toshiba rather than an Orion. Basically almost any TV pre-2001 and 32"-36" from about 2001 through 2004. I could be wrong by a year or two but that's the gist. Orion gradually started making more and more of Toshiba branded sets as time went on.

>>10657189
This guy here is rocking a Trueshiba A Series. A+ grail set.

[Anonymous No.10657271]

>>10657263
God I miss my 36A60. If I had only appreciated what I had on my hands and how hard it would be to get back these years later.

[Anonymous No.10657274]

>>10654904
Can't you just order a custom stand for it from a carpenter? Do people really just furnish their homes with ikea slop and nothing more?

[Anonymous No.10657279]

>>10657267
>They're also often free because there's less demand for non-Sony TVs.
Less and less now that they are being evangelized here and on reddit.
Let's agree not to tell them about the Sanyos

[Anonymous No.10657285]

>>10657263
I want to say that's an Orion set but those aren't bad at all, either. They might also be better than a JVC, honestly.

[Anonymous No.10657298]

Talking about TV specs/ searching out specific models is kinda pointless.
Aslong as you dont get some shitty noname brand and the TV is the right size its gonna be good, Panasonic JVC Phillips sony all excellent

[Anonymous No.10657301]

CRTs in a dark room sexually arouse me

[Anonymous No.10657302]

>>10657274
I wouldn't trust Ikea anything to hold a CRT, personally.

[Anonymous No.10657310]

>>10654874

[Anonymous No.10657334]

>>10657285
The tube seems a little dim on this one compared to other sets but it's still quite nice. It has a lot of good inputs on the back. Many of my consoles go through scart rgb to component.

[Anonymous No.10657340]

>>10657302
IKEA has decent value shit, if it can hold a 130kg man, I'm fine it holding even a 100kg CRT.

[Radiochan !!8R5IcuH3PgQ No.10657382]

>>10654874

[Anonymous No.10657421]

>>10655735
>>10655247
>>10654874
some of their gear isnt THAT bad
however, i had those same speakers
i ended up letting my roommates keep them
not the best, esp if you need the EQ dialed a certain way
for spoken word its borderline unlistenable kek
nice leds tho haha
in a pinch or as a used pickup id say C- good enough
>>10655050
are these shielded?
people slam bose but
i have a nice set of bose pc speakers
and i would never part with them
for the price you will not have better performance, period.
they have megamillions of corporate funds to waste on RandD
for actual music listening\record playback they're great
best use of a gift card, maybe ever.
>>10655754
ok what the fuck kek
you might wanna move some stuff around anon
>>10655769
i used to have this same monitor ;_;
i miss it, that era was truly great.
>>10655805
comfy
i dont like the decor but its your home do what you want anon
>>10655864
kekked
looks comfy though
>>10656157
a bit cluttered but comfy
>>10656245
it looks better
a sub is probably overkill for retro vidya anon
>>10656353
the pvms are great depending on the system used
there are times when i need RF though
>>10656434
>dirty pair
based
i kinda regret selling my famicom disk
>>10656476
>everyone wanted a big one
L-LEWD!
its still true though anon
>>10656516
>playing from the side
i hate doing this so much though...
>>10656546
based game
i remember being in the 5th grade and playing with my friend
all the gore\blood\babes
good times
>>10657164
thrift stores, yardsales, or facebook marketplace
all my furniture was basically free
black is easiest to colormatch
most darker woods look okayish next to eachother
even if they arent autistically matching
>>10657189
i used to have that same metal rack
cabinet liners are a cheap\grippy fix if you wanna change the look
>>10657207
jealous anon
i would poach this set in a heartbeat
i only have one large set like this left
its a zenith and i dont think its a shadowmask
also lacks component inputs ;_;

[Anonymous No.10657454]

>>10656976
i have one too
mine can run off battery power
so if the world ends atleast i can still play on a crt kek

[Anonymous No.10657771]

>>10657421
don't quote so many people in one post, it's incredibly rude

[Anonymous No.10657841]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6yZ2a9h-R8

[Anonymous No.10657898]

>>10655046
Here's that D-Series I mentioned earlier. It's a JVC AV-32D503. A couple of the capacitors went bad. I know where they are, too, but I'm too lazy to swap them out right now. It works though so that's good enough for me for the time being.

[Anonymous No.10657929]

>>10657898
Best TV in my opinion
Wish I could find one
If only is was black, the silver is not as appealing

[Anonymous No.10657943]

>>10657898
I'm so mad I had to leave my D-Series behind during a move. I will find another, mark my words...

[Anonymous No.10657945]

>>10657929
I have a Toshiba 36A41 squirreled away that blows the D-Series out of the water. In fact, this D has a Toshiba tube in it which means I have a pretty even comparison and it's no contest. I think it's just that fewer people are aware of the Toshibas.

That said, the black D-Series sets are supposedly have better build quality. Over time JVC started cheaping out on the chassis. Mine only has one S-Video port, for example, even though you can see the cutout for a second. Also don't ignore non-D JVCs. What makes the D-Series special isn't the tube but the audio. It has better speakers than non-D sets but the tubes are the same. I think a lot of the D-Series love has to do with the branding. It's easy to identify so people gravitate to it. JVC's marketing worked 20 years later.

[Anonymous No.10657950]

>>10657945
Talking about the look of the TV

[Anonymous No.10657953]

[Anonymous No.10657962]

>>10657771
is it?

[Anonymous No.10657965]

I just got this 25C-S50 yesterday but I was wondering if anyone could help? S-Video works fine I get an image but when it comes to composite I get not signal or barely any depending on the console. You can faintly see the neo geo cd logo to the left of the screen.

[Anonymous No.10657969]

>>10657965
ps2 connected with s-video. Anybody what the cause may be? both front and back composite don’t show any images just sound.

[Anonymous No.10657973]

>>10657969
Are you sure it's not just got the settings lowered on those channels?

[Anonymous No.10657982]

>>10657969
might want to try putting the video input in one of the audio ports and vice versa just to check to see if any wiring is reversed

[Anonymous No.10658010]

>>10657965
>>10657969
>>10657973
Oh wait, actually does the TV have a switch?
Mine has a SVHS and VHS option which switches from S-video to Composite

[Anonymous No.10658054]

Here's my outdoor setup.

[Anonymous No.10658057]

>>10657421
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.10658072]

>>10658054
I'm gonna do some nice inch and half thick shelves for each level.

[Anonymous No.10658089]

Been jumping back and forth between simulated 25" and 29" CRT on my LCD monitor arcade setup and I think I'm liking 25" more.

[Anonymous No.10658090]

>>10657212
>universal chassis
the open-source crt chassis? hasn't that been in early development for years now? is anyone actually working on it?

[Anonymous No.10658098]

>>10658010
sadly no “channel setting” is for searching channels to watch

[Anonymous No.10658103]

Is the Sanyo DS27425 an 100% flat screen or is an "almost flat" screen. It's marketed as TruFlat.

I wonder if it has a 110 degree tube in it.
https://crtdatabase.com/crts/sanyo/sanyo-ds27425

[Anonymous No.10658105]

>>10657973
I don’t think the setting would change anything; treble, bass, balance, soft tone, clear tone.

[Anonymous No.10658134]

>>10657969
are you able to switch between video 1 and 2? if not, maybe you need a remote. if yes, is the s-video unplugged?

[Anonymous No.10658172]

>>10658105
that's sound anon, I'm talking about video options

[Anonymous No.10658185]

>>10658090
I think so. I haven't heard anything new but hopefully it's making progress behind the scenes. You always have somebody showing up asking about how possible it is to make new CRTs. But not only is that impossible, it's not even necessary. We have plenty of tubes. They're just trapped in garbage sets nobody wants. Imagine how awesome it would be if you could pick up a composite-only bottom of the barrel RCA, yank out the tube, and drop it in a custom chassis that turns it into a multisync beast. I know that's VERY optimistic but a man can dream.

[Anonymous No.10658216]

>>10658172
those are the only settings the tv has
>>10658134
yeah i can between 1 & 2 it automatically detects the input
Anyways s-video looks good enough, it’s probably just a resistor or something that go blown the fuck out who knows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=8OOBqP2TNPzwzMFj&v=OgI8ZfxEgVc

[Anonymous No.10658223]

>>10658098
>>10658105
>>10658216
you need a remote control

[Anonymous No.10658241]

>>10658223
I’m using an universal controller, maybe an oem would have more options. But I can’t even find any information on this tv let alone the remote.

[Anonymous No.10658243]

>>10658241
I mean if you can't even access the video options then you're not gonna get anywhere

[Anonymous No.10658249]

[Anonymous No.10658257]

>>10658103
Idk, but I got one about a month ago and it looks flat.

[Anonymous No.10658263]

>>10657421
Yeah, the bose speakers are shielded. It's one of the other reasons why I wanted to get a second pair.

[Anonymous No.10658404]

>>10655798
Wow. I need to play ff7, i was thinking of starting with 6 tho.. hm.

[Anonymous No.10658485]

>>10658072
>>10658054
if you don't wanna waste wood you can use cabinet liners
way cheaper and then you can leave it outside

[Anonymous No.10658775]

>>10654874
how bad is having a high contrast on crt/color degradation over time. ive heard its bad so scared to put mine above like 1/4 but how bad actually is it?

[Anonymous No.10658852]

>>10658775
It wont effect anything

[Anonymous No.10658856]

[Anonymous No.10659146]

>>10658775
double brightness quadrouple the wear in general.
But keeping a crt so dimm it looks bad is also stupid
find a balance.
BTW low contrast will only make the tube last longer, the flyback or something could still shit itself and kill the entire set

[Anonymous No.10659338]

>>10657841
>>>/r/TVTooHigh

[Anonymous No.10659416]

>>10654874
Someone is giving away a KV-25X1, also comes with this remote.
Wroth it?

[Anonymous No.10659420]

>>10659416
No idea what that is, but if its free, go for it

[Anonymous No.10659432]

>>10659416
looks good and it's a trinitron, can't go wrong

[Anonymous No.10659435]

>>10659416
>is this free item worth my money

[Anonymous No.10659440]

>>10659420
>>10659432
>>10659435
Still have to pay for gas and spend time driving and carrying it

[Anonymous No.10659476]

>>10659338
Not everyone has the wall space. You have to use that Z axis.

[Anonymous No.10659665]

>>10654874

[Anonymous No.10659679]

>>10659665

[Anonymous No.10659686]

>>10658775
Meaningless. Crank it.

[Anonymous No.10659727]

>>10659416
Absolutely worth it. Can't go wrong with late 90s Trinitrons. I've never had an X1, but I've got both X2 and X5 and they're great.
Here's the service manual by the way:
https://archive.org/details/manual_KV29X1_SM_SONY_EN

[Anonymous No.10659745]

>>10659727
>the manual literally shows everything
>from taking it apart and physically adjusting geometry and how to do it
>to accessing service menu and what all the options do
>it even includes schematics
Why can't modern manuals be like that

[Anonymous No.10659757]

>>10659745
That's not a user manual though, it's a service manual for repairmen, and they probably had to pay some kind of licensing fee to get it.

[Anonymous No.10659781]

>>10659745
Service manuals were meant for professional technicians, if you had a third-party repair shop you could buy them from the manufacturer, but that practice has mostly died down over time.
Manufacturers don't want you to fix your shit now, most devices are made to be one-time only. Once something dies you have to buy a new one. Even when you send back a faulty appliance to be fixed under warranty, most of the time they just send you a new one, at best just swap out the bad module. There's barely any real "fixing" going on now.
That's why you don't see many service manuals for newer hardware. Third party repair shops are mostly gone, too.
I often watch a guy on YT repairing various audio equipment of all ages, mainly amps, CD players, etc. He's recorded a few hundred episodes until now. Everything up to the early 2000s is more or less easily fixable, has a service manual or at least schematics available. After that? He has to guess and use his experience to trace the signal path manually and find the faults that need fixing.
The parts are mostly tiny SMD components, often mounted on multi-layer PCBs, too. Good luck repairing a modern PC motherboard, for example. All of this contributes to a lot of work and costs that make it just not worth it in the long run. Easier to swap in a new module than fix the existing one. And you hardly need a complicated service manual for that.

[Anonymous No.10660320]

>>10657898
>Saturn games on the floor.
Are you a psycho?

[Anonymous No.10660345]

>>10658257
Photos please.

[Anonymous No.10660446]

>>10659727
That's what I heard before I got mine, and I wish I didn't listen. You absolutely can go wrong with them. I have an X5 stashed away, not sure what I should do with it. Corner convergence is absolutely fucked, especially in the top left, and the plastic is getting really brittle. What you should be doing is thoroughly inspecting every CRT you get, and not just think "well it's a 90s Sony, it's gotta be good", like I had.

[Anonymous No.10660482]

>>10660446
>Corner convergence is absolutely fucked, especially in the top left
Easy fix though if you're comfortable working with running CRTs

>and the plastic is getting really brittle.
Really? I've heard that before but none of my consumer blacks have brittle plastic

[Anonymous No.10660489]

>>10660482
It has to do with a very specific timespan of Sony CRT's, the mid 90's black curved trinitrons. Then again, I have a 20" '95 trinny that's doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.10660502]

Last time I tried to play a PSX game my PS2 just wouldn't. 5 hours in and so far so good this time.

[Anonymous No.10660516]

>>10660446
With CRTs being as old as they are its always a gamble no matter what. You're going to find a turkey every now and then regardless of the make and model.

[Anonymous No.10660550]

>>10660482
I am comfortable with taking them apart, but working on a running CRT is where I draw a line. And it's probably not worth the effort anyway, since the set has over 30k hours

[Anonymous No.10660554]

>>10660550
really?
do you turn it off when you alter the focus?

[Anonymous No.10660625]

>>10660550
Stop being a pussy. Unless you're trying to harm yourself, you'll be fine, even then you could just use electrical gloves. The only thing you would have to do is push a plastic band with a magnet on the end under the yoke. Not rocket science.

[Anonymous No.10661159]

>>10660345
Here is OoT on component from my Wii on that Sanyo.

>>10657279
Explain

[Anonymous No.10661163]

>>10661159
Second pic

[Anonymous No.10661198]

>>10661163
This pic right here is why we don't talk about the Sanyos.
(until I get mine)

[Anonymous No.10661212]

>>10661198
Because it looks pretty? I kind of think most of mine all look the same in terms of niceness, i.e. that Sanyo, a Panasonic ct-27d10b and my JVC 27" I'Art.

[Anonymous No.10661305]

in the next thread
can the OP add the following green text questions

>which is best? slotmask, aperture grill, shadow mask?
>which systems benefit from which types the most?
>which do you own?

[Anonymous No.10661374]

I hate this wire rack. I’d like to move to something that can hold all the consoles, but also hide them except when in use without having to reconnect them.

[Anonymous No.10661378]

>>10661374
>want neogeo
>but have wii
I really want one, but for $400 I could pay like $120 for a quest 3 for example.

[Anonymous No.10661390]

>>10661374
used entertainment center with doors
doesn't even technically need to have a back on it you could use posters or whatever and cut tiny slits holes for cabling

[Anonymous No.10661392]

>>10661390
like this but with doors
I don't have anything hooked up though but I could

[Anonymous No.10661542]

>>10661378
mvs & aes fag here
i think the hardware is worth the chugs
i like feeling slowdown, on snes too
finalburnneo is great though +free

[Anonymous No.10661597]

>bust out my old 'tube tv
>set off my tinnitus while the screen's on
>turn it back off after 20 mins
bros...

[Anonymous No.10661627]

>>10661597
How did weak faggots like you survive back in the day

[Anonymous No.10661692]

>>10661627
Between that and people complaining about eye strain, I just picture them looking like Kyles cousin from South Park

[Anonymous No.10663006]

>still haunted by all the CRTs I've missed over the years

[Anonymous No.10663032]

Any chance I could get an invite to the Discord server? I was there in 2021 but I left

[Anonymous No.10663035]

>>10663032
Sure

https://discord.com/invite/bhy9UqKe2R

[Anonymous No.10663046]

>all the cancer is on Discord
>meanwhile all the oldfags are on the IRC and Matrix

[Anonymous No.10663054]

>>10663006
this. I had a chance to buy them cheap years ago. Now every crt I see on craigslist or ebay is massively inflated prices. Even the shitty consumer sony are asking $200+ or something ridiculous. You still find free crts if you look hard enough but most of them are in poor condition. Craigslist is a scam.

[Anonymous No.10663071]

>>10663054
I recognize that listing, in your's and my area there are still very nice CRT's you could go out and get if you're willing to go on a little 2 hour drive. Not ideal, but driving long distances for meaningless things is American culture.

[Anonymous No.10663076]

>>10663006
>Picked up dozens of high end CRTs in the 00's and 2010's for free or pennies
>Filled my whole storage with them over time
>Only ever been using a few myself
>Picked a few as backup
>Sold the rest for massive profit

[Anonymous No.10663079]

>>10663054
lol /vr/ was tripping 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.10663081]

>>10663054
>Even the shitty consumer sony are asking $200+ or something ridiculous.
>meanwhile in europe they still cost 5 or 10 eur in great condition
bless

[Anonymous No.10663116]

>400 pound speakers for beep boop

lmao

[Anonymous No.10663130]

>>10663081
Probably because even the shittiest 14" bedroom TV sold by a supermarket brand has an RGB SCART input in Europe, so looks basically fine.

[Anonymous No.10663140]

>>10663130
Very low end TVs didn't usually support RGB over SCART, only composite or Y/C

[Anonymous No.10663145]

>>10661542
It's really cool and I have some MVS games, but the mvs to aes adapters are like $150 at least and I've been hearing about rotten traces. There is an AES for like $600 on ebay that has the unibios installed on it, but still I'm left without an mvs adapter. I would get an mvs, but I don't know a good place to buy one.

[Anonymous No.10663151]

>>10661378
is really like to own an MVS cabinet, but probably wouldn’t want to go down the money pit that would be getting one fixed up to look nice and possibly replace the tube with one that isn’t terribly worn.

[Anonymous No.10663192]

>>10654874
I have that same exact Panasonic model but in 21''
Has a great picture honestly, I connect my PS2 through component, looks super sharp and clean.

[Anonymous No.10663202]

>>10663140
That simply isn't true. The picture I posted is about as shitty and low-end as it gets. A supermarket brand 14" VHS combo unit. I guess maybe if you're from some slav shithole or something they might have sold models without RGB SCART, but not here.

[Anonymous No.10663210]

>>10663202
I've have and have had several of Spanish and German region models of low end CRTs form a few manufacturers and none of them have RGB over SCART. RGB isn't as universal with SCART as people always claim.
Even with higher end consumer models, like black Trinitrons that have several SCART inputs, not all the inputs support RGB either.

[Anonymous No.10663216]

My brother found a crt and gave it to me. Composite looks like crap after playing rgb on my scaler. So I ordered retrovision cables for my master system.

[Anonymous No.10663274]

>>10655046
>>10657898
>>10657945
Here's that Toshiba 36A41 I was talking about. Excuse the photography, I don't really know how to take a picture of a CRT properly and make it look right. What I can say is my uncle is the original owner. I actually helped him pick it up from Best Buy way back in 2001. What you're seeing here is factory settings. I can not only guarantee the service menu has never been touched, I don't even thing the regular menu has been. My family was never particular about TVs. As long as it got a picture that was always good enough.

[Anonymous No.10663276]

>>10663216
if you mean component cables and you already have RGB on other shit then its cheaper to buy 1 rgb to component converter to feed them all into it. Same end result

[Anonymous No.10663287]

>>10663202
tons of tvs that used SCART connectors didnt have rgb

[Anonymous No.10663296]

>>10663274
My D-series looks better than that. That looks lower TVL

[Anonymous No.10663298]

>>10657898
ah your d-series does look like shit though. weird

[Anonymous No.10663323]

>>10663298
The D-Series is fucked up for sure. It's got some bad caps I haven't gotten around to fixing.

>>10663296
Interested in seeing it. Like I said, this is what the thing looked like right from Best Buy. I haven't fiddled with it at all because of where it is. Just getting that one picture was a production. It also looks a lot better in person. I have no idea how to take a picture of a CRT and not make it look like garbage. Even the D-Series doesn't look THAT bad in person. I'm using an iPhone. You're basically seeing both TVs in the worst possible conditions.

[Anonymous No.10663450]

is the toshiba 27af42 just as good as the a's? i know this model also has a toshiba tube and not orion

[Anonymous No.10663461]

>>10663450
They're just as good. The only difference is the Fs are flat tubes.

[Anonymous No.10663502]

>>10663035
>>10663032
cancer

[Anonymous No.10663507]

>>10661212
The difference is the JVC I'Art is a well known brand at this point and will fetch a premium price. Same would go for anything Panasonic because that was a historically premium brand up there with Sony.

[Anonymous No.10663512]

>>10661374
But those wire racks are how all the otaku have their stuff organized. Do you even weeb?

[Anonymous No.10663516]

>>10661597
This is one of the reasons I like a PC CRT these days. No 15khz whine when I'm using shaders at 1792x1344.

[Anonymous No.10663518]

>>10661627
I never really noticed 15khz whine in the 90s.
But in the late 2000s I started to notice it a lot.
I have no explanation but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.10663521]

>>10663054
>I had a chance to buy them cheap years ago.
I have been following CRT prices since 2006 and I don't recall any time I've ever seen BVMs dip into what I'd call cheap. The lowest I ever saw the 20" and bigger ones was maybe $300.

[Anonymous No.10663542]

>>10663054
The popularity of BVMs for retro gaming is nonsensical. What they do to a 240p RGB image is going in the opposite direction of one of the biggest reasons people want to use in the first place: seeing obviously square dot graphics (I avoid using the word pixels here because it triggers autists).

For years 240p120 mode has been considered an inferior substitute for a real 240p60 display. But that's about what you're going to be looking at with a BVM, minus the extra ghosting effect. That's how thick your black lines are going to be.

To me BVMs are a meme for fags who want one because they are "the best". But that "best" was in a totally different context in totally different industries than retro gaming.

Somewhat ironically a BVM is going to be one of the easiest CRTs to simulate with a shader. The newest generations of high refresh rate OLEDs combined with shaders should be *very* competitive with a BVM in apppearance.

[Anonymous No.10663559]

>>10663323

[Anonymous No.10663560]

>>10655508
They were the best at the time. And give respect where it is due, good CRT tvs lasted. It was common to get a solid decade or more out of it.

[Anonymous No.10663563]

>>10663542
BVMs look fine at appropriate viewing distance. They are memes, but the huge black lines disappear when you sit back. Some of my giant CRTs have a similar issue when you get too close even at 400 TVL

[Anonymous No.10663578]

>>10663563
If you sit back far enough for the lines to disappear you might as well just use a consumer CRT.

[Anonymous No.10663581]

>>10655508
reality: CRTs are good

also reality: I don't care to fool with them so much anymore and love the convenience of a high-end low-lag LCD using shaders.

[Anonymous No.10663586]

>>10655718
>PC CRTs are rarely worthwhile desu
They are good for playing PC games.

[Anonymous No.10663667]

>>10663578
quit being retarded. The lines disappear at normal viewing distance. You aren't supposed to play 1 foot away.

[Anonymous No.10663739]

>>10663559
Do you know what tube is in yours? JVC used a shit ton of manufacturers.

>>10663542
>>10663563
The funny thing about PVMs and BVMs is that retro gaming is arguably not what they're best for. They exist to display a broadcast image with enough precision that a production staff can know exactly what's being displayed and make adjustments. Watching an actual movie on those things is what they'd be best for.

[Anonymous No.10663752]

>>10655021
Why are you his mom? Is that why your always bending over in front of men all the time?

XD

[Anonymous No.10663759]

Okay, real talk now. Who has actually played for at least a couple of minutes on a Sony BVM, both in 240p and 480i? I don't care about theoretical ramblings, screen photos, or YouTube videos. Does anyone here actually see those monitors in person, and have an opinion one way or the other?

[Anonymous No.10663765]

>>10663739
I'm not sure. It's a black 32 inch D-series. I haven't opened it up before.

[Anonymous No.10663783]

>>10663667
Depends on the resolution. I have a "hi-res", 20'' PVM with a resolution of 900 TVL and sit about 2 feet from the screen. At this distance, the lines are clearly visible (I like seeing them so it isn't an issue). In order for the lines to become indistinguishable, I would have to move back to at least 10 feet, which is hardly ideal for a 20'' screen.
>>10663759
I've played 240p, 480i, and 480p content on my BVM and PVM. Are you asking which signal looks better? Both look good but the most noticeable difference is the flicker of the 480i image. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what I throw at these monitors - games just look damn fuckin' good on them.

[Anonymous No.10663786]

>>10663759
I had a BVM that I sold years ago because the prices have gotten so high and I didn't think the difference was worth it. I thought it looked better than anything I've played games on or watched SD content with. But in the end I'm looking at low res content so the extra high TVL felt superfluous

[Anonymous No.10663797]

>>10663667
Once again, if the lines disappear then the point of using a BVM is lost.

[Anonymous No.10663804]

>>10663759
I have played for hundreds of hours on real PVMs of various types and on Sony aperture grille type PC CRT monitors in 240p120 mode which strongly resembles a BVM's image.

So what do you want to know?
I'll tell you right off they are insanely overrated.

[Anonymous No.10663805]

>>10663783
>games just look damn fuckin' good on them.
The thing is, that's mostly just because they are aperture grille CRTs, not really because they are a PVM.

[Anonymous No.10663812]

>>10663805
That plus the high TVL, yeah. I prefer aperture grille tubes, for sure. Got a diamondtron for the PC as well.

[Anonymous No.10663825]

>>10663783
>>10663786
>>10663804
Thanks for the replies. Basically, BVMs get insane hype in some circles, and the price sure as hell reflects that - incredibly expensive and hard to get. I'm not looking to pay that much obviously, but if I someday, somehow got the opportunity to pick one up for semi-cheap, I wanted to know how they are beforehand, from someone who actually used them and is not a retarded redditor, who only plays his Mario in 240p. I own two consumer TVs and a 600TVL PVM, the PVM looks great, but it does have noticeably more flicker on 480i. I assume that on BVMs you even start to see scan lines on 480i, due to how high the resolution is?

[Anonymous No.10663832]

>>10663825
On my 900 TVLer, yes, the lines are clearly visible at 480i.

[Anonymous No.10663848]

>>10663783
>>10663786
>>10663804
One thing I forgot, anyone tried PS1 games on a BVM via composite? I'm curious what that looks like, compared to RGB

[Anonymous No.10663851]

>>10663542
Even a 25-32 inch consumer Trinitron looks too sharp for most /vr/ consoles, I have no idea why people want their games to look like an LCD with a shitty filter.

[Anonymous No.10663856]

>>10660502
Nice set up you got there. Very clean and good cable management. I too run a lot of my games through my stereo receiver. The stereo separation and bass from a Model 1 Genesis in particular sounds incredible

[Anonymous No.10663863]

I have a crappy 14 inch Matsui (Curry's own-brand) vcr combo unit that supports RGB over scart.
Although I don't use it, since it has some minor visual issues that I'm too low iq to fix.
If you live in Europe and your CRT doesn't support RGB over scart, you should buy a lottery ticket.

[Anonymous No.10663871]

>>10663863
>If you live in Europe and your CRT doesn't support RGB over scart, you should buy a lottery ticket.
see >>10663287

[Anonymous No.10663875]

>>10663871
Maybe in poor countries, in which case you could do with the lottery money to buy a plane or horse ticket out.

[Anonymous No.10663881]

>>10663875
are you just >>10663202 seething and bringing up the topic again because you were wrong?

[Anonymous No.10663884]

>>10663881
>multiple people disagree with me, they must be the same poster

[Anonymous No.10663890]

>>10663825
600 TVL PVM is a much better retro gaming display than any BVM ever made imo.

[Anonymous No.10663893]

>>10663884
Plenty of CRTs with SCART don't have RGB, stop trolling

[Anonymous No.10663894]

>>10663884
same shitty and retarded argument, that's why
also ironic since I'm not even the original anon, so multiple people do disagree with you

you probably have a small sample size, chassis in europe were pretty universal between countries

[Anonymous No.10663896]

>>10663893
>>10663894
Just ignore and don't derail the thread.
I already posted >>10663210 against that same argument once and got ignored, there's no point in bringing it up again.

[Anonymous No.10663904]

>>10663893
>Plenty
got proof of that?

[Anonymous No.10663915]

>>10663848
It looks really good actually. You get the typical color artifacting and fuzziness you'd expect from composite, however, the resolution of the BVM is too high and dithering is still visible. Compared to RGB, s-video even, it's just not as sharp and doesn't have that "HD" look.

[Anonymous No.10663918]

>>10663904
What do you consider proof? This isn't some obscure thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/kajqrq/does_every_tv_with_scart_support_rgb/

[Anonymous No.10663929]

>>10663786
>But in the end I'm looking at low res content so the extra high TVL felt superfluous
This is how I feel. The problem with mega high TVL is the image loses its texture. Some BVMs make the raster look like lines drawn on a vector monitor. That kind of solid color where you don't get the "grain" of the mask just doesn't look right to me.

[Anonymous No.10663938]

>>10663918
you said plenty
It's rare that it doesn't

[Anonymous No.10663948]

>eurotards constantly boast how all their sets have RGB in
>turns out it's not even true
top fucking kek

[Anonymous No.10663960]

>>10663948
show proof

[Anonymous No.10663965]

>>10663960
lol you faggots already proved everything with your fighting

[Anonymous No.10663970]

>>10663965
A reddit link isn't proof that "plenty" SCART unit's don't have RGB

[Anonymous No.10663973]

>>10654874
>>10655754
>>10655802
>>10655805
>>10656245
I live in a shithole and have none of this

[Anonymous No.10663976]

>>10663970
cope harder eurotard
I already saw enough in that thread to be able to call out your RGB bullshit

[Anonymous No.10663979]

>>10663976
I think you need to seek help

[Anonymous No.10663984]

Just got a mitsubishi cs-32207. Absolutely no coil whine

[Anonymous No.10663989]

>>10663976
fuck off, I never said it's common, only that it's not that rare as people make it seem

[Anonymous No.10663990]

>>10663979
>euro
>doesn't even have rgb
priceless

>>10663989
so you do admit not all tvs have RGB, got it

[Anonymous No.10663994]

>>10663984
I doubt it, might be muted but 15khz should always be
>>10663990
This is definitely the misconceptions troll

[Anonymous No.10664006]

>>10663994
>This is definitely the misconceptions troll
he already admited not all tvs with scart have RGB

[Anonymous No.10664013]

>>10654874
are CRT's meant to be infinitely repairable?
If not, does it make you want to use it extremely sparingly?

[Anonymous No.10664012]

>>10664006
Go on, post your copypasta

[Anonymous No.10664014]

>>10664013
nothing is infinite anon

[Anonymous No.10664019]

>>10664013
Tubes degrade over time with use, rest of the parts are still easily available online.

>If not, does it make you want to use it extremely sparingly?
I have enough CRTs as backup and service and repair my own CRTs. So I'm not really worried, they are meant to be used, I'll be long dead before I run out of CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10664027]

>>10664013
It's not worth worrying about. These things were built to be living room televisions. Even if you're an avid gamer you're not going to be taxing it that much.

[Anonymous No.10664121]

>>10664027
i get that, i just figured that it's been around 20 years since people were buying these new, so everything out there has probably already seen a lot of use

[Anonymous No.10664141]

>>10664121
Nah, I have bought several new old stock CRTs. Mint in box.

[Anonymous No.10664148]

>>10664141
interesting, i wonder if that's possible in Australia

[Anonymous No.10664250]

>>10664148
Nah
you're gonna have to look for second hand here

[Anonymous No.10664294]

>>10664250
>>10664148
Doesn't matter where you are, you can always get lucky
Picked up a NOS VGA CRT monitor just a month ago for 10 eur

[Anonymous No.10664313]

>>10664294
Not here you won't

[Anonymous No.10664330]

So lets say I do my diligence and research first before buying a small RGB SCART television from Europe and import it to the USA.

What am I looking at in terms of needing get it going for 110v electricity and 60hz video signals? (this is me doing the research)

[Anonymous No.10664343]

>>10663145
the seller on ebay in texas seems reliable
mvs-1c , i submitted a reasonable offer and he accepted


the magic adapters are quirky / have issues (and are comically expensive)
+i have been hearing certain fluffy bootlegs dont work with it properly

the aes 161 is cheaper but has caveats as well- some have glitches, some dont have credits at the end, some cant be beaten (piracy loop) , for what it is its fine but i would get a custom cart from acrade projects forum with the complete library instead for a bit more lunchmoney


hope that helps

[Anonymous No.10664346]

>>10664313
Anywhere

[Anonymous No.10664358]

>>10664330
Just a power converter, RGB doesn't use encoding like PAL or NTSC, so that doesn't matter, all you need is the right voltage, the frequency doesn't matter even, CRTs have internal clocks, that CRT TVs use line frequency is a myth, only some oscilloscopes and related did.

So 110V to 220V power converter and SCART cables or adapters.

[Anonymous No.10664363]

>>10664330
why don't you just get a heavy ass CRT television that's already in the country you live in?
there are plenty of monitors and televisions that support PAL signals as well as NTSC

[Anonymous No.10664364]

>>10664330
>>10664358
P.S. it might be easier to RGB mod a NA set instead of importing from EU. You can add your own SCART port.

[Anonymous No.10664365]

>>10664346
Trust me anon
not here, everything we had was Imported from SEA

[Anonymous No.10664367]

>>10664343
i had the daedaulus adapter but resold
that's the "best" one & I still wasn't happy with it

[Anonymous No.10664373]

>>10664365
Australia? I've seen people pick up NOS CRTs locally in videos

[Anonymous No.10664379]

>>10664373
Wanna post some proof?
If they're getting NOS, it's imported

[Anonymous No.10664405]

>>10664379
It's all imported, it was once imported here too, just forgotten in storage or a warehouse

[Anonymous No.10664451]

>>10663797
?
The point isn’t the lines dumbass, it’s the clarity

[Anonymous No.10664470]

>>10664451
If the lines disappear so does the clarity.

[Anonymous No.10664474]

>>10664363
I'd like to have an 80s slot or shadow mask CRT in the 14-19" size range with a very curved tube that accepts RGB.

Not so easy to find in the USA.

[Anonymous No.10664476]

>>10664358
What about the television supporting 60hz video signals?

[Anonymous No.10664485]

>>10664343
What was the offer you made?

[Anonymous No.10664528]

>>10664470
lol what is this logic

[Anonymous No.10664532]

>>10664476
>>10664474
eBay
just add it to your saved searches enable a push notification when it finally goes live and jump on that bitch that's what I do for rare stuff

[Anonymous No.10664549]

>>10664358
>So 110V to 220V power converter
Is that even a thing?
How does it supply more AC voltage than the power point can supply

[Anonymous No.10664572]

>>10664549
By converting current to voltage.

[Anonymous No.10664634]

>>10664528
It's common sense.

[Anonymous No.10664641]

>>10664634
So, no reasoning then?
Having a larger set also creates blank lines, does that create more clarity?

[Anonymous No.10664659]

>>10664641
Yes, that is also common sense. The black lines are creating separation between each scanline resulting in higher clarity.
That's kind of the whole point of measuring TVL.
However if you take it too far and have too much of a mismatch between resolution, screen size, and TVL you get the window blinds effect, which is unsightly.

[Anonymous No.10664680]

>>10664659
Ah, now I see
It's the TVL autist carry on

[Anonymous No.10664683]

>>10664549
>>10664572
" step up transformer circuit"

[Anonymous No.10664697]

>>10664485
$120 or so
but I lived reasonably close for shipping
he might've sent me the offer to be honest just added it to your watchlist for a while and see if if he sent you some shieeet


but yooo you will need a good super gun

[Anonymous No.10664719]

>>10655778
Same, it’s /x/ tier.

[Anonymous No.10664728]

>>10664719
Looks like good feng shui to me.

[Anonymous No.10664749]

>>10664474
You won't be able to import such a TVs from another continent. Most people who sell these in Europe have no idea what they're doing. They won't verify anything for you, you'll never know how much wear is on the set, and if RGB 60hz even works, as maybe 1% of people used it back in the day and know what it is. Very expensive freight shipping the thing in a crate? LMAO

[Anonymous No.10664767]

>>10664013
According to the internet, most consumer TVs should have visible wear after 30k hours. So if you get some that's low use (verifiable at least on some Sony's), let's say 10k hours, how long it would take you realistically to run it into the ground? Even playing for 4 hours every single day, that's only 14k hours in 10 years

[Anonymous No.10664776]

>>10663915
>>10663890
I see, thanks anons. Looks like BVMs are nice to have as one of the CRTs in your collection, not a monitor you'd use everyday

[Anonymous No.10664790]

>>10664474
>convert rgb to s-video
jobs done, now you have easier targets

[Anonymous No.10664810]

>>10664749
>Very expensive freight shipping the thing in a crate?
Unnecessary.
The weight of consumer CRTs is overstated.
A 19" consumer TV weighs less than 40 lbs.
A well padded box would be fine.

[Anonymous No.10664820]

>>10664810
That's how you get tubes with broken necks. The box WILL get tossed around in sorting centers, the delivery man won't care to put the box on the correct side and a CRT really shouldn't lie on its back

[Anonymous No.10664823]

>>10664820
You worry too much.
You ever actually shipped a 19" CRT ? I have have multiple times. Nothin' happened.
If it did: that's what shipping insurance is for.

[Anonymous No.10664831]

>>10664659
You are retarded. You aren't supposed to see lines at viewing distance. Which is just a few feet. You only see them noticeably with your face against the screen. The point of a BVM is not to play 10 inches away from the screen.

[Anonymous No.10664835]

>>10664831
>You aren't supposed to see lines at viewing distance. Which is just a few feet.
Well you're going to see them on a BVM at that distance.
>You only see them noticeably with your face against the screen.
That is not true.

[Anonymous No.10664836]

>>10664835
You've never owned a BVM.

[Anonymous No.10664901]

>>10664476
RGB mode supports 60Hz by default

[Anonymous No.10664992]

>>10664343
I see tons of these negogeo MVS systems for sale in ebay, usually from Japan for about $500 to $600. It's the price of the carts that's pretty puts me off. It's possible to buy a rom cart for it similar to a krikzz everdrive but because this such a niche item, that cart costs an additional $500. thats getting a little steep for me desu

[Anonymous No.10665078]

>>10663739
>Watching an actual movie on those things is what they'd be best for.
I use mine for that, too. But I think it's silly to infer that a monitor--or any piece of equipment--should only be used for whatever it's "best" for.

[Anonymous No.10665091]

>>10657421
>a sub is probably overkill for retro vidya anon
I guarantee you, this is something you'd only say until you actually hear it.

[Anonymous No.10665095]

>>10663276
The converter requires external power. I would rather pay a little extra to not deal with another cord

[Anonymous No.10665109]

>>10658404
>i was thinking of starting with 6 tho.. hm.
If you have the patience, try 6 before 7. I think it's worth it, and gives you some added perspective on just how much of a big deal 7 was when it came out.

[Anonymous No.10665125]

>>10665095
I just have a short lead that plugs into a console's USB nearby, it's enough to power it

[Anonymous No.10665131]

>>10665095
I would have probably done that too if I had the money to spare. The only bonus using a separate adapter is that you could have them plugged up to RGB and component at the same time using a switch instead of changing the console cables

[Anonymous No.10665132]

>>10657945
>That said, the black D-Series sets are supposedly have better build quality.
Not sure about this. If anything, most people I've talked to say you want a silver one because the black ones are prone to developing a serious fish-eye problem as they age.

I got a black D-series for free and despite endless geometry tweaking and a COMPLETE recap, the image is just warped beyond repair. I ain't complaining because it was free, but I'd never seek one out.

[Anonymous No.10665161]

>>10665132
mine isn't like that. Not all blacks anon

[Anonymous No.10665162]

>>10665132
Sounds like a linearity problem
>>10654874
Wish I could, phone makes file size too large
Currently watching some bluray rips of old anime on mine through my 360

[Anonymous No.10665172]

>>10665162
Best I could do

[Anonymous No.10665195]

>>10665162
>Sounds like a linearity problem
No. The edges around the entire screen are warped, and none of the geometry settings will affect it. It's just 20 year old TV that's fucking tired. My friend's dad had a D-series that is still tucked away in his basement. We dug it out and tested it and it had the exact same issue. I did a complete recap of the deflection board and even removed the speakers just in case they were causing distortion, and nothing made a lick of difference.

It's actually such a prominent issue on the early D sets that I've read people who got one as their first curved-screen CRT being so off-put by it they swear off of curved tubes forever.

[Anonymous No.10665198]

>>10665132
Its honestly kind of funny how the D-Series is meme'd in the CRT community but you constantly hear about wonky units. Some of that is confirmation bias because they're very common and the more of anything the more problems you'll hear about but it's still a little funny.

[Anonymous No.10665218]

>>10665198
I mean, for how tired my set is, it's still nice-looking. I think people are just clamoring for a big name brand alternative to all the overpriced Trinitrons on the market, and the D-series fits the bill.

JVC made a good set, I'm actually a pretty big fan of the i'Arts. I owned two of them many years back and they were gorgeous, with generally better geometry than any D-series I've seen, despite the flat tube. I was actually with my friend about 20 years ago when he bought a brand new 36 inch i'Art with money from his first job. I remember he said he liked it better than the Trinitron, and it's a sentiment that is echoed by a lot of archived product reviews I've dug up. Fucker weighed like 200 lbs, though

[Anonymous No.10665227]

>>10654874
sigh, I had a great big RCA before I bought my PS3. Should have kept it.

[Anonymous No.10665235]

>>10665198
>>10665195
I've only owned this single one and luckily I have no fisheye problem. It has pretty bad focus in the corners though. It was the easiest and most recognizable curved CRT with component inputs to look for

[Anonymous No.10665237]

>>10665218
I have i'art and d-series and the flat has really bad geometry compared to the curved

[Anonymous No.10665240]

>>10665227
Did it have component or RGB?
If not, it probably wasn’t worth keeping

[Anonymous No.10665243]

>>10665240
All you need is composite though

[Anonymous No.10665249]

>>10665235
This just requires adjusting the focus pot with minute adjustments

[Anonymous No.10665257]

>>10665243
Only if you plan on playing up to 4th gen

[Anonymous No.10665259]

>>10665249
doesn't fix it, I've tried

[Anonymous No.10665263]

>>10665240
it had RGB. PS2 games looked good on it but it really shined on NES/SNES games.

[Anonymous No.10665279]

>>10657945
>What makes the D-Series special isn't the tube but the audio.
Lol, that's dumb. Why would you accept a shitty tube just because it comes with good speakers when any random bookshelf speakers and an audio receiver from a flea market would be a thousand times better?

[Anonymous No.10665295]

>>10665218
I'm over the Trinitron hype for sure. One problem is that Sony went all in on flat tubes so there are very VERY few curved Sonys with component. Plus the benefit of the aperture grille was originally a brightness thing, which may have been huge in the 70s but wasn't a problem by the time you got to the 90s and 2000s slotmasks. A lot of flat trinis end up looking gaudy in comparison, with dreadful red push.

[Anonymous No.10665305]

>>10665235
I'm glad you got a winner. They're not bad TVs at all. It's just that they're hyped to shit to the detriment of other brands that at least as good.

[Anonymous No.10665324]

>>10665279
because it's not true and anon is making shit up because its turning into a contrarian circle jerk since he sees jvc as too popular. People look for d-series because they are curved with component and easy to find.

[Anonymous No.10665328]

>>10665305
stop creating ficitonal situations in your head to get mad about anon. theres no "detriment to other brands".

[Anonymous No.10665329]

>>10665295
>dreadful red push
I specifically remember this being a frequently complaint about Sony flat tubes in the early 2000s, and one of the biggest reasons many consumer reviews said JVC's flat tubes were a better buy.

[Anonymous No.10665345]

>>10665279
Back when these were new TVs were such a mature technology that manufacturers had to come up with ways of making their products look better than anyone else's. That involved improved side mounted speakers and other features that don't really matter anymore like picture-in-picture. The tubes were often identical though across a range of product lines.

[Anonymous No.10665348]

>>10665328
How often do you hear about Panasonic or Sanyo? Those are great but nobody talks about them.

[Anonymous No.10665354]

>>10665345
That's not what I asked.

[Anonymous No.10665359]

>>10665348
Neither of those use their own tubes anon

[Anonymous No.10665362]

>>10665354
What are you asking?

[Anonymous No.10665365]

>>10665259
what about a recap? i have the same problem

[Anonymous No.10665367]

>>10665359
Neither does JVC. It's weird that the D-Series gets a unique amount of attention.

[Anonymous No.10665376]

>>10665348
Panasonic and Sanyo don't sell CRTs anymore anon

[Anonymous No.10665382]

so your complaint is that they aren't popular and thats somehow bad

[Anonymous No.10665385]

>>10665365
I have blurry edges as well as a fish-eye issue. I did a complete recap of the set. Didn't fix anything.

[Anonymous No.10665387]

>>10665382
No, I'm saying its weird that one specific product line of JVCs are uniquely popular. Especially considering, like I said earlier, non-D JVCs have the same tubes and what made the D special back in the day was the audio.

[Anonymous No.10665391]

>>10665367
Well my grundig here >>10665172
has a Thomson tube and it’s super sharp, I heard that the JVC’s had that and Toshibas so I assumed they were good

[Anonymous No.10665401]

>>10665387
it's because you can tell that it's a d-series from a shitty pic from the little branding on the top left. that's it. people dont always take pics of the back so its a guarantee when looking for component inputs. I think that's part of the reason wega trinitrons are so popular too.

[Anonymous No.10665417]

>>10654894
21FS140 on Component.

[Anonymous No.10665662]

>>10665417
how to unlock sideways castle

[Anonymous No.10665678]

I played some of this for the umpteenth time with a friend over the weekend, and every run only endears the game to me even more.

I frigging love the graphics in this game. This is peak usage of polygons to me. And I love how everybody's faces are sprite-based; it makes them a thousand times more expressive than fully 3D faces were at the time. Heck, they're more expressive than most modern games, too. It's easy to overlook, but I think one of the reasons this game has such a cult following is because of how expressive the characters are and how well staged and animated all the cutscenes are. All the characters feel very alive.

[Anonymous No.10665758]

>>10665678
The Dreamcast had a shit ton of VRAM even compared to the PS2 so it's textures could be crisp and high res.

[Anonymous No.10665816]

>>10654874
How are the Jvc I art crts? Someone locally wants 25$ for a 27 inch one with its remote.

[Anonymous No.10665821]

>>10665816
I forgot to list the model. It's a Av-27f734.

[Anonymous No.10665823]

>>10663856
You can't really go wrong with any of them. Square put out nothing but FF masterpieces between 3 and 10.

[Anonymous No.10665828]

>>10665823
meant for
>>10658404
But yeah, the Genesis 1 has such great sound not just for the chip differences, but the mixer cable makes it basically the only way to play Sega CD.

[Anonymous No.10665839]

>>10665662
Play some shmups with crt sideways previously. :P

[Anonymous No.10665848]

>>10665678
I have the gamecube version of this that I picked up back when I was softmodding a wii for fun. I never really dived into it. Should probably do so.

[Anonymous No.10665862]

>>10665823
Despite having nothing to do with each other, playing FFs in order is a great experience because you witness how each idea first formed and then got refined later on. The games all build on each other in some pretty clever ways, both mechanically and in storytelling and plot structure. Each game is kind of like an answer to the previous ones. It makes you appreciate what each one does on a deeper level.

[Anonymous No.10666001]

>>10665816
>>10665821
I have one and love it. I also paid around $25 for it and it was very worth it, especially if it has the remote.

[Anonymous No.10666058]

>>10665816
I've owned three. They were great.

>>10665758
Yeah, all the best-looking dreamcast games I've seen let the textures do the work.

>>10665848
You'll either love it or not. It's a divisive game because while the mechanics of it are pretty generic, it's got a ton of heart and atmosphere, and the characters are all very likable. A big reason for this is that the localization team basically gutted the script and re-wrote it from scratch, so everyone sounds much more natural and "Western" as opposed to having stilted anime dialogue like most JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.10666061]

>>10666058
Damn that's too sharp even

[Anonymous No.10666064]

obligatory

[Anonymous No.10666081]

>>10665816
They're great.
>27
Feasibly movable by yourself but it wouldn't hurt if you brought someone else to lighten the load if you can.

[Anonymous No.10666087]

>>10665816
>>10665821
Also video from two years ago when I picked up mine.
https://files.catbox.moe/4lfzqq.mp4
One think I recently found out that you NEED to do is to turn off (set to zero)the "red push" in the service menu called "NTSC MAT". Said video in catbox still had that red push enabled and I never really saw a problem until I started Majora's Mask and noticed everything seemed very dark on neutral settings.

Look at this video @ 8:40 here for more detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeqzVuWq4_Y

[Anonymous No.10666092]

>>10664836
I've owned an 800 line Sony PVM-20M4U
which has basically the same performance. You still can easily see the scanlines sitting "a few feet" away. On a 1000 TVL BVM the effect would be stronger.

[Anonymous No.10666096]

>>10666087
Also, here is my thread posts discussing the issues with pictures.
>>10521417 (Red push on)
>>10523817 (Red push off)

[Anonymous No.10666097]

>>10666001
>>10666058
>>10666081
>>10666087
Thanks. I'll be sure to pick it up then

[Anonymous No.10666101]

>>10666096
In case those post links don't work.
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10519968/#q10521417 (Red push on)
https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/10519968/#q10523817 (Red push off)

[Anonymous No.10666112]

>>10666058
>I've owned three.
What happened to them?

[Anonymous No.10666170]

>>10664835
You can see scanlines on consumer models too, so I never really understood this sentiment.

On my PVM, I can clearly see the scanlines, but they don't look like the massive black gaps in the picture they come across as when you take a photo of the screen. I sit back maybe 4 or 5 feet when I play and they just give everything a bit of a nice texture.

>>10666112
One started emitting a high pitched squeal so I replaced it with the next one when I found it for free. The second one I liked but it was 32" and just too damn big. Ended up giving it to a guy who moved into an apartment with no furniture or anything. This was like 15 years ago, so craigslist was lousy with the things. Last one was 27" which was a perfect size, but it was just really worn out and I didn't have room for it, so I got rid of it when I bought a new LCD.

[Anonymous No.10666181]

>>10666170
Sorry it didn't work out with the I'arts. Do you reget not keeping the 27" one?

[Anonymous No.10666214]

Nasty question but do CRTs attract pests like roaches or bed bugs?

[Anonymous No.10666216]

>>10666181
I mean, it worked out. I used them all a bunch. This was during the Wii era so I was glad to have something that actually made that system look good.

I don't regret getting rid of the 27" because it was really worn, and later that same year I ended up finding a free 20" PVM which I'm still using. I am still on the hunt for something in the 27" range to have as a backup, though. I currently have a 27" D-series which I am not a fan of all and would trade for an i'Art in a heartbeat.

>>10666058
Here's a shot of that exact same scene on the exact same monitor from my last playthrough 5 years ago, but it's the Dreamcast versions via S-video, as opposed to Gamecube via component.

[Anonymous No.10666226]

>>10666214
Yes. I constantly have to fumigate my CRT room. I keep roach and insect traps spread around the room, but they really don't seem to help. I've just learned to live with it, lol.

[Anonymous No.10666242]

>>10666214
The roaches are part of the appeal. It gives the retro smell when they get burnt

[Anonymous No.10666253]

>>10666214
Not necessarily the CRT, but your dandruff does. If it gets inside the exhaust vents it can attract roaches and it’s a pain to get rid of

[Anonymous No.10666254]

>>10666216
I have i'art and d-series side by side and the i'art looks sharper and has better colors but worse geometry than the d-series. Interlacing is more visible on i'art than the d-series too

[Anonymous No.10666257]

>>10666253
Thats why I take showers now.

[Anonymous No.10666331]

Best way to watch downloaded media on a CRT? Like I want to watch rips of 90s/00s media like tv shows, movies, and anime, but they’re on a hard drive.

[Anonymous No.10666391]

>>10666331
I use softmodded PS3 but the supported file formats are limited

[Anonymous No.10666454]

>>10656516

Tell the fat hog to lay off the carbs, retard

[Anonymous No.10666458]

>>10657421

Mass replying dick gob

[Anonymous No.10666508]

>>10655028
You can have some fun with this with a PC CRT.
I have a PC CRT which has a shadow mask with a dot pitch of 0.28mm
The viewable screen size is 385 x 290 mm.
That equates to a TVL rating of roughly 1036 TVL. Or just round it down to 1000.
However, you can easily display a video game in a window on this monitor.
By setting a low resolution and shrinking the window but maintaining a 1:1 pixel mapping in software you can effectively lower the visible TVL rating because as the screen becomes smaller the dot pitch becomes relatively coarser in comparison.
So working backwards to achieve a 500 TVL rating you would need to set a window size of 187 x 140 mm while maintaining a 1:1 pixel mapping. By setting a PC monitor to 640x480 mode this can usually be accomplished.

[Anonymous No.10666512]

>>10666331
What graphics card do you have?

[Anonymous No.10666527]

>>10666331
I use UMS DLNA player and transcode to my 360
Works well enough

[Anonymous No.10666536]

>>10666512
6900xt

[Anonymous No.10666649]

would you rather use a trinitron that only has s-video or a shadow/slot mask with component? (particularly for 6th gen consoles)

[Anonymous No.10666667]

>>10666649
Not enough information here for me to make the decision.

Given best case scenarios on both sides I take the trinitron.

[Anonymous No.10666672]

>>10666226
>>10666242
>>10666253
I don't get it, why didn't everyone have roach problems before LCD TVs took off? Do you guys just not clean outdoor finds or something? Do you have an alley couch?

[Anonymous No.10666702]

>>10666672
What do CRTs have to do with roaches
That’s a problem where you live

[Anonymous No.10666730]

>>10666667
i guess to keep things fair/consistent, both would be flat consumer tubes and of similar year and size. the slot mask would also be a top brand (toshiba, jvc, etc.) i'm mostly curious how well s-video aperture grille compares to component on slot masks

[Anonymous No.10666789]

>>10666331
>>10666527
This reminds me of something.

Thrift / second-hand stores sometimes have old set-up boxes, the subscription services won't work, but many have proper 480i/567i output, via composite, s-video or SCART and the DLNA client often still works or they have USB connector to play media from. I picked up one once for 5 bucks with remote and AC adapter and used it as a media player for a CRT when I had no better option. Low power too compared to using old consoles.

[Anonymous No.10667003]

>>10666454
>muh carbs
they're fine once in a while
it's the inflammation causing foods 24/7 that caused people to gain weight weight
glyphosate exposure
s0ŷbêâńź in literally everything
its not food, if people are too retarded to not kill themselves with the "food" they eat on a daily basis then give up and move on

beef, eggs, non-GMO sourdough bread, local tortillas etc
people are lazy retards

>>10666649
>>10666667
same, atleast the sony you can easily resell +will be pretty reliable/made in japan usually

s-video is slept on but its the biggest jump from rf/composite without faggy rgb mods aka ruining vintage hardware

[Anonymous No.10667035]

>>10666331
There was a Roku unit with composite output designed specifically for SD, 4:3 displays not too long ago. You can create a Plex server from a PC and then play everything over wi-fi on the Plex app. Works really well and requires minimal hardware; just a 4-inch rectangle, a power cord, and some RCA cables.

Sadly, demand seems to have gone up. They were only 25 bucks when I got mine and now they're 174. Probably still cheaper than a lot of other potential solutions, but goddamn.

https://www.amazon.com/Roku-Express-Streaming-Player-Composite/dp/B01M2AJZ5P

[Anonymous No.10667047]

>>10667035
Post the amp in its full glory, anon. The VU meters are sexy.

[Anonymous No.10667054]

>>10667035
>composite
You’re better off using a Pi or 6th gen console, they have RGB output

[Anonymous No.10667057]

>>10666454
But she likes carbs. And I like fat hogs.

[Anonymous No.10667060]

>>10667054
Pi + component or RGB output hat would do well
Even a older Pi like a Pi 2 would be fine for SD

[Anonymous No.10667094]

old mini pc that has an amd card compatible with crt emudriver works well for plex on a CRT. I use a dell I got off fb marketplace $50.

[Anonymous No.10667097]

>>10667054
Considering that most of what I play is just old DVD rips, composite still looks really good, and it doesn't take up an input I'd rather use for a console. Actually, the novelty wore off pretty quick and I got into just watching VHS tapes for the full nostalgia effect.

[Anonymous No.10667098]

>>10667035
>25$ usd is now $170usd
guess fiscal irresponsibility over printing all that money was a mistake
i hate the feds

[Anonymous No.10667212]

>>10667098
bro just talk about crts instead of whatever dumbass shit that is

[Anonymous No.10667395]

>>10667212
>they hated him because he told the truth

[Anonymous No.10667425]

CRT bros... we won

[Anonymous No.10667447]

>>10666331
PS3 is the goated with the sauce media player. It supports every type of video output. Actually I do remember it was a pain to do media streaming for some formats like mkv? But it’s doable

[Anonymous No.10667472]

>>10654894
What is man but a miserable pile of secrets?

[Anonymous No.10667674]

Picked it up for about $15

[Anonymous No.10667679]

>>10667674
looks blue

[Anonymous No.10667697]

>>10654874
I just ordered a very expensive ass scart cable for the dreamcast. Game shown is Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram. I can't seem to capture a good pic of it but it's pretty. I really didn't need such a nice scart cable for this. The s-video cable I had was fine.

[Anonymous No.10667702]

>>10654874
My six input scart switcher is offically maxxed out. Lel

[Anonymous No.10667720]

>>10667697
Odd, the one I got for it is like night and day with the S-Video cable

[Anonymous No.10667736]

>>10667720
Yea the rgb scart is noticeably better than the s-video but I just started collecting for the dreamcast. The seller I bought my dreamcast from in Japan included an really good gold-plated s-video cable. I really didn't need anything better. I suppose I'll sell that one.

It's a pain because most dreamcast games are way overpriced. I'll likely be figuring out ways to play burned copies with boot disks.

Here is the cable. It's ridiculously good. Custom made buy some dude. It uses an ultra fat coaxial cable and has a 15khz to 31khz switch built in. I needed to use the 16khz. This is probably the nicest scart cable I own yet I only own one sega dreamcast game. This guy makes the nest stuff though. I hope his business does ok.

[Anonymous No.10667753]

>>10667720
Yea the rgb scart is noticeably better than the s-video but I just started collecting for the dreamcast. The seller I bought my dreamcast from in Japan included an really good gold plated s-video cable. I really didn't need anything better.

Collecting for the dreamcast is a pain because the games are way overpriced. I'll likely be figuring out ways to play burned copies with boot disks.

Here is the cable. It's ridiculously good. Its custom made buy some dude. It uses an ultra fat coaxial cable and has a 15khz to 31khz switch built in. I needed to use the 15khz. This is probably the nicest scart cable I own yet I only own one sega dreamcast game. This guy makes the nest stuff though. I hope his business does ok. Website is called retro access.
Don't order from him though unless it says in-stock.. the other place I order cables from is retro gaming cables.co.uk.

These are worth it imo if you have a set with component inputs and really want the colors to pop.

[Anonymous No.10667770]

Can't do CRT. High pitched noise gives me headache. Tried 2 times.

[Anonymous No.10667782]

>>10667753
>retro gaming cables.co.uk.
that's where I got mine from
>>10667770
really? it's not really that loud at all

[Anonymous No.10667784]

>>10667770
Man you just gotta suffer through the coil wine lcds just don't cut it. You need pure 60hz refresh rate.

[Anonymous No.10667876]

>>10667425
kekked

[Anonymous No.10668009]

>>10667770
PC CRTs don't have that audible whine because it's outside of most people's hearing range when it's at 31khz or higher.

[Anonymous No.10668016]

>>10668009
>most people
I would say all peoples

[Anonymous No.10668018]

>>10668009
with vintage failing capacitors you're gonna hear noises brother
I still can hear the TV if it's left on
my dad used to bust my balls for falling asleep with the crt TV on

[Anonymous No.10668025]

>>10668018
yes, we can all hear the 15khz sound it makes anon
A failing capacitor is not the norm for a functioning CRT

[Anonymous No.10668034]

>>10668025
i've just been unlucky then
every VGA monitor I bought in the last five years has had the problem
Maybe if I downscale the resolution before sending
I'm not even using it with my PC kek

[Anonymous No.10668042]

>>10668034
A VGA monitor should make no internal sounds at all, apart from the expansion and contraction due to heat

[Anonymous No.10668047]

>>10668042
Also they are 32khz which is inaudible

[Anonymous No.10668145]

https://www.dba.dk/billedroer-prosonic-21t60/id-1110037757/

Is this a good TV? I want a CRT for PS1/PS2 games

[Anonymous No.10668154]

>>10668042
changing resolution to hire resolutions causes it to whine

[Anonymous No.10668203]

>>10668154
Well of course, because it’s no longer 32khz, you’re pushing it beyond standard spec
I think 800x600 is the standard

[Anonymous No.10668301]

>>10668203
ill fiddle w/ it again
i have another toaster pc build im working on


*higher
my voice to text displays correctly then changes it at the last second
makes me feel like a schitzoid

[Anonymous No.10668323]

>>10654891
Snes uses low quality samples it can't output audio that would benefit from a audi setup that costs more than $20

[Anonymous No.10668409]

>>10667702
What switch is that?

[Anonymous No.10668429]

>>10666672
Nobody wants historical revisionism from zoomers, dipshit. Just because your parents probably took care of the bug/roach issue while you blissfully played your Nintendos doesn't mean it wasn't real.

[Anonymous No.10668470]

>>10667770
>shitty LED lighting
>cheapo cube shelves
>soulless detolf with consoles on display
>LCD
Wow, it's been so long since I got enraged at this level of shit taste I almost forgot how to do it. I'll at least give you points for running a 16:9 mod instead of just stretching the image to fit the screen.

[Anonymous No.10668490]

>>10668429
I think you just live in a dirty hovel anon
I only have spiders in my home
Perhaps you should clean more, you sound like the dandruff obsessed troll

[Anonymous No.10668516]

>>10668490
The CRTs came with roaches new out of the box because of the manufacturing process.

[Anonymous No.10668527]

>>10668516
Yep it’s definitely the troll

[Anonymous No.10668548]

>>10668409
Ali express. They have a bigger one that I might bet the future. For now i dont have any mire room for consoles. I also use a toslink switch and component switch. Ali express also has the best scart to component transcoders.

[Anonymous No.10668571]

>>10668516
less to do with the manufacturing and more with the testing and shipping that occured at separate warehouses, particularly during the 80s and 90s when TV manufacturing was completely overseas. It was much less of an issue for boomers with domestically produced sets in the 50s nad 60s.

[Anonymous No.10668652]

>>10668470
Kek u shitzos

[Anonymous No.10668659]

>>10667770
Roach free setup. Not bad.

[Anonymous No.10668671]

Does anyone else find it hard to breathe after playing in a room with that CRT burning smell for a long time?

[Anonymous No.10668693]

sometimes my crt touches me in places I don't want it to.

[Anonymous No.10668710]

>>10655693
i just paid $100 + $50 shipping
if you're so uncertain maybe you don't really want one

[Anonymous No.10668765]

>>10668671
After a couple of hours, I find the fumes hurt my eyes more than my lungs, but I'm already generally squinting because of the flickering light and the high-pitched whine, so it's really not much of a big deal.

[Anonymous No.10668819]

>>10668671
open it up and dust it bro
prob got a layer of baked on dust cookin in there

[Anonymous No.10668914]

>>10655850
I have a 5-input HDMI switch that uses that same remote.

[Anonymous No.10669345]

some nerd on fb marketplace finally dropped the price of a dell p991 from 400 to 185.
now thats progress. still overpriced tho

[Anonymous No.10669746]

>>10667035
Any reason some BS like this wound work?

[Anonymous No.10669767]

CRTs made me bald!

[Anonymous No.10669793]

A 78 year old man gave this to me the other day for free

[Anonymous No.10669803]

>local thrift store has a Toshiba 32AF45
>looks pretty much mint but the remote doesn't work
>no input button on the TV
>can't check the image unless I get something to hook up to it through coaxial
How hard is it to replace an IR reader on one of these?

[Anonymous No.10669818]

>>10668429
There's zero articles describing bug infestations caused by CRTs. Nah, you're the revisionist.

>>10668516
I bought a new old stock CRT in the late 2000s for $20 which was then opened in my bedroom where it remained for half a decade before I moved out with it. Zero roach infestations whatsoever.

This is clearly a forced meme from broke anons thinking it'll tank the value of CRTs. There's no precedent, so it won't.

[Anonymous No.10669823]

>>10669767
NO, your physical age made you bald.

[Anonymous No.10669827]

>t. exterminator

You just want more business

[Anonymous No.10669875]

>>10669803
>>10669803
ive used xfinity universal remotes on tvs when i didnt have the remote

[Anonymous No.10669889]

>>10669818
>This is clearly a forced meme
Actually, it's anons with actual medical autism who can't detect sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.10669914]

>>10669889
That's completely correct.

[Anonymous No.10669965]

>>10667770
Grow up.

[Anonymous No.10669984]

>>10669793
v nice
i got a bunch for free too even here in california
>thrift store owner
>tell him its for sega genesis
>he happily shares some gaymen memories and gives me a huge zenith crt with svideo

other time:
>respond to craigslist ad
>drive over with my friend and a large truck
>she finds out its for atari shit
>laughs, "just take it for free, its been years since i ever even heard someone say 'Atari' wow,,,"
other tiem
>sidejob, sweating profusely, get everything done
>free water bottle, chug it
>mention you can 8shitdo the amazon firesticks
>i got an old gaymen tv brother you want it? FREE just take it, it works good!
it was a truetech target brand but i ran it until the speakers failed and got all shitty\raspy


HUNT ON BROS

[Anonymous No.10670164]

>>10669818
>There's no precedent
Literally just google it. Roaches love warmth and will gather and nest inside of electronics like CRTs or big amplifiers that creates a lot of warmth. It isn't an issue with LCDs or most other modern electronics because they don't really get warm the way older stuff does.

[Anonymous No.10670189]

[Anonymous No.10670191]

>>10670164
I've opened 20+ used CRTs from various backgrounds and never found dead roaches or their droppings inside. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I think it's less common with CRTs than other pieces of electronics. Bugs seem to prefer game consoles. I've seen a lot of PS1s with roach droppings inside.

Still, one of the first things I'd do with any used CRT I buy is take the back off and check.

[Anonymous No.10670321]

>>10670164
>Roaches love warmth and will gather and nest inside of electronics
in addition to this, any piece of old electronic equipment that emits a high frequency either through cathode or transistor tubes will also attract roaches. It used to be that people thought ultrasonic frequencies would drive them away, but really it just kind of excites them and makes them want to find the source. It'll even lure them into your house, especially if it's by a door or window.

Really, the dead giveaway is how many goddamn roach and pest control commercials used to be on TV in the 90s and earlier. Then they just kinda... stopped. When was the last time you heard about Raid? or the Orkin man? Shit used to be everywhere because older TVs literally attracted roaches into homes they wouldn't give a shit about otherwise.

>>10670191
>I've opened 20+ used CRTs
You know how little that is in the grand scheme of things? You may as well say you opened ONE.

[Anonymous No.10670362]

>>10670164
horror story
from years ago,
have roommates
they always leave food out
they never clean up the fucking crumbs
roaches infested the fishtank in the kitchen
they got into literal AC plug and were breeding inside it
this activity carried over into the plug itself

i still get heebie jeebies thinking about it
when i got my own place
i had to check every item i owned
i bought a comical amount of roachtrap\bait
never found anything though
its been almost 3 years now

never again

[Anonymous No.10670376]

>>10670321
>When was the last time you heard about Raid? or the Orkin man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KamqZ73hWBE

[Anonymous No.10670378]

>>10670164
Correlation is not causation. Your bed is warm, better get rid of that. Your central heating is warm too, that also needs to go to be roach free. Your organs are warm, better disembowel yourself just to be sure.

>it isn't an issue with LCDs
Google it. There are far more documented bugs inside LCDs than CRTs.

>>10670321
There are still pest control commercials, all you've said is you don't watch TV anymore. Good for you, by the way.

[Anonymous No.10670461]

Stop feeding the misconceptions troll
He’s getting you to talk about cockroaches FFS

[Anonymous No.10670483]

Haven't seen a single cockroach in my whole life, not to mention in electronic devices. Is this an American thing?

[Anonymous No.10670519]

It's a cracked foundation thing

[Anonymous No.10670674]

has anyone ever rgb modded a crt? how complicated was it? my particular set is supposedly easy (sony trinitron kv20fv12) but it all sounds so daunting

[Anonymous No.10670680]

>>10670674
Do not attempt it if you have no experience with electronics or understanding of what does what
Just use S-Video

[Anonymous No.10670693]

>>10668323
Retard

[Anonymous No.10670991]

>>10670483
the bugs are everywhere
just because you're too autistic to notice them doesn't mean they're not real
the worst bug infestation I've ever seen the people who lived in those homes swore up-and-down that they never saw even one
delusional
>>10670674
convert the signal to S video
congratulations now you don't have to do anything retarded

[Anonymous No.10670995]

>>10670483
I assume you live in a very cold part of the planet

[Anonymous No.10670997]

>>10670991
its just like the cat owners and cat piss smell
it's in your clothes it's in your carpet
y'all motherfuckers have toxoplasmosis
>>10670461
le bugs r undah my skin!!!
>>10669823
my clippers made me bald
and my balls smooth as eggs
>>10669746
sounds bad but maybe its good
the gen1 apple tv had composite/component out also
my pops keeps his to this day as a media server
>>10668548
how long until it catches on fire
i hope you unplug when not in use anon
use 240p test suite and lagtest it
chinese crap sometimes adds latency
>>10666702
thrift stores are notorious for spreading rats/turds/bugs/not cleaning etc

[Anonymous No.10671016]

My trusty monitor I got with my first PC in feb 2001.

[Anonymous No.10671023]

>>10670189
Composite?

[Anonymous No.10671126]

stop replying to the roachposter you idiots

[Anonymous No.10671173]

>>10670483
I've only seen one when I vacationed in California.

[Anonymous No.10671203]

>>10671173
Saw some in Vegas Airport a decade ago

[Anonymous No.10671316]

Personally I find the roach discourse a thousand times more entertaining than the usual shit you guys bicker about like screen size or scanlines or SCART or whatever.

[Anonymous No.10671340]

>>10671316
Of course you do
You’re the one that started it

[Anonymous No.10671390]

>Enter CRT roach thread
>YT recommends roaches and ants in hardware now
Sigh...

[Anonymous No.10671632]

>>10671340
The roaches started it. I'm just finishing it.

[Anonymous No.10672145]

>>10655050
Here are my bose speakers in action. I think they are very nice.
https://litter.catbox.moe/9e6neg.mp4

[Anonymous No.10672181]

>>10671390
>absolutely-disgusting.jpg
>>10672145
difficult to convey sound
even the shure sm 57 changes tone on mic placement
ill listen in a bit though
>>10671016
i wish we would have saved ours


>sauce is metal orange

[Anonymous No.10672538]

>>10665109
5 is better

[Anonymous No.10672640]

>>10672538
Maybe if you’re a contrarian