>preemptively deconstructs your imminent digital dystopia behind you

[Anonymous No.10617494]

heh, nothin personnel kid

[Anonymous No.10617498]

>>10617494
Metal Gear Solid 2 is one of those games you'd be embarrased if someone walked in on you playing it during certain cut scenes. Holy shit these games are embarassing to play as an adult.

[Anonymous No.10617502]

>>10617498
which scenes in particular make you cringe?

[Anonymous No.10617514]

>>10617502
Mostly dialogue during the cutscenes. And retarded slo-mo and camera angles. It's been ages since I played them. But I guess it's part of the fun.

[Anonymous No.10617516]

>>10617502
not that anon and last time i played dindt watched cutscenes but the vampire shit wass cringe as fuck

[Anonymous No.10617521]

you guys don't understand kojimas genius

[Anonymous No.10617523]

>>10617516
First thing that popped into my mind tbf.

[Anonymous No.10617538]

>>10617514
>>10617516
stick to soulsbornelikes or minecraftlikes whatever it is your favorite steamers like to play half-assed while they're reacting to their chat simps or other streamers or whatever

[Anonymous No.10617542]

>>10617494
People are so low IQ, they actually believe that the ranting monologues have anything to do with the modern day. FUNFACT KIDDIES: The government WANTS everyone to be drowned in a sea of irrelevant posts and data.

[Anonymous No.10617545]

>>10617494
>In the Middle East, we don't hunt foxes, we hunt jackals! Instead of foxhounds we use royal harriers!
kino

[Anonymous No.10617549]

>>10617502
Any cutscene involving vamp. Or the fat rollerblading dude. Or that black chick with the railgun. Or literally any cutscene in the game.

[Anonymous No.10617556]

Not being able to enjoy silly fun is the sign of a very boring, bitter person. In other words, a /vr/ poster.

[Anonymous No.10617558]

>>10617538

[Anonymous No.10617561]

>>10617494
Kojima was just making some post-modernist slop because he was pissy about being asked to make a sequel than an original title. Kojima is a twitter addict and podcster, so he's just dumping more shit into the soup of digital media, so its not like he's any better.

[Anonymous No.10617563]

>>10617502

[Anonymous No.10617565]

>>10617556
Sure, but MGS2 is not a silly and fun game. It takes itself deathly serious. The fact kojima sprinkles cringe japanese humor throughout the game to lighten it up does not detract from this.

[Anonymous No.10617570]

>>10617556
I'll take Mario over Kojima's self indulgent wankfest anytime.

[Anonymous No.10617572]

>>10617494
What I find most hilarious about MGS2 is that if you read it's wikipedia page, it reads as if it's gods greatest gift to humanity.

MGS-fags are insanely insecure for some bizarre reason.

[Anonymous No.10617578]

>>10617556
apparently Kojima's particular half-serious / half-goofy narrative-driven character-centric game design is too much for the average Twitch-addicted esports speedrunning ADHD zoomer

[Anonymous No.10617589]

>>10617578
Everyone has their limits when it comes to that stuff. There's a good chance you think Kingdom Hearts is cringe and that has the same exact game design you just described.

[Anonymous No.10617601]

>MY SOUL
>I NEED TO DEFUSE THE BOMB ON MY SOUL

[Anonymous No.10617604]

>>10617578

[Anonymous No.10617621]

>>10617589
MGS has an acceptable amount of anime comic book bullshit meshed with Cold War techno-thriller military porn. That's what separates it from utterly embarrassing weeb shit like KH.

[Anonymous No.10617627]

>>10617621
>it's okay because it's the kind of cringeI like
You weren't actually supposed to validate the post by responding to it

[Anonymous No.10617656]

>>10617627
idc lol

[Anonymous No.10617674]

>>10617549
And why would I be embarrassed of that? It's just action game camp.

[Anonymous No.10617680]

>>10617494
Big Shell is fucking BORING, and 90% of the game is entirely forgettable. The only memorable parts are the clusterfuck of an ending, and the tanker section in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.10617681]

>>10617563
Faggot alert

[Anonymous No.10617685]

>>10617494
What's preemptive about it?

[Anonymous No.10617686]

>>10617674
I felt second-hand embarrassment because it was fucking stupid. Like watching a really bad movie.

[Anonymous No.10617689]

First game to run at a glorious 60 fps, I remember it well.

[Anonymous No.10617690]

>>10617565
>The fact kojima sprinkles cringe japanese humor throughout the game to lighten it up does not detract from this
Of course it does.

[Anonymous No.10617696]

>>10617690
No it doesn't. In fact, it actively harms the game's narrative, despite what cock-sucking Kojima-fondlers would have you believe.

[Anonymous No.10617697]

>>10617686
Sounds like you have self-esteem issues.
Really bad movies often have charms that great ones lack.

[Anonymous No.10617701]

>>10617696
>the game not being always serious doesn't make it not always serious
>by the way it's bad blah blah muh fanboys
You lost sight of your narrative anon. Try again from the start.

[Anonymous No.10617704]

>>10617680
This. It looks like a test environment. Source engine test textures even have the same color scheme.

[Anonymous No.10617713]

>>10617697
aw hell nah
ohhhhhhh my god
fart sound effect x20
bruh sound x15

[Anonymous No.10617720]

>>10617713
Kiss them

[Anonymous No.10617725]

>>10617685
It came out in late 2001, well before most of the world was online and plugged in to giant corporate broadband user-generated media platforms and thinking about the implications and consequences thereof. Kojima was thinking about fucking Napster when he came up with MGS2's story. We've only started thinking seriously about generative AI (beyond hypotheticals) in the last couple years.

[Anonymous No.10617727]

>>10617689
>he thinks mgs2 was the first 60fps game

[Anonymous No.10617734]

>>10617542
That's exactly what the game is saying. Watch it again, retard.

[Anonymous No.10617738]

>>10617725
>2001, well before most of the world was online
you don't seem to understand

[Anonymous No.10617739]

>>10617686
If you're feeling embarrassed while watching a cutscene, just press buttons and pretend you're playing the game still. It worked for that other autistic anon when he was playing Sonic

[Anonymous No.10617741]

>>10617738
Japan and South Korea are not the whole world anon

[Anonymous No.10617746]

>>10617741
It's not about le epic generative AI or the internet, you just fell for the meme because of an article written in 2012 when the remaster came out.

[Anonymous No.10617765]

>>10617746
I was a sophomore in high school during 9/11. Most people around me were still on dial-up back then, if they were online at all because it wasn't assumed. Downloading a three-minute-long 128kbps MP3 was a 20-minute-long commitment at least. Get bent stupid zoomer.

[Anonymous No.10617771]

>>10617765
Nah, I think closer to 5-6 minutes. Couldn't have been twenty. Maybe if you were surfing the web during.

[Anonymous No.10617772]

For Kojimbo this was his fourth or fifth game about Metal Gear, so he probably felt he could get a little wacky and subversive. But most people only played MGS1 and just wanted another cool adventure with a badass like Snake.

[Anonymous No.10617773]

>>10617772
First one on psx was already a bit wacky, but kept it contained.

[Anonymous No.10617781]

>>10617772
You got the order of things switched up.
>most people only played MGS1 and just wanted another cool adventure with a badass like Snake
therefore
>he felt he could get a little wacky and subversive

[Anonymous No.10617790]

>>10617773
They're all different kinds of wacky, MGS2 just has that disgusting, gay feel to it. Like Bruno or something.

[Anonymous No.10617794]

>>10617772
>about Metal Gear, so he probably felt he could get a little wacky and subversive.
MGS1 had fucking magic tattoos

[Anonymous No.10617796]

>>10617686
That's what the MGS series is, really bad movies by a guy who wishes he was a Hollywood director but can't hack it. A mixture of politics and anime cringe moments.

[Anonymous No.10617797]

>>10617572
>MGS-fags are insanely insecure for some bizarre reason.
yeah, it's MGS fans who are so insecure, that's why there are constant threads bitching about how much Metal Gear sucks, or how much better Splinter Cell is

[Anonymous No.10617798]

Everyone here has to pretend it didn't predict shit but I think they managed to predict that information society and social media would just drive people into their own echo chambers. That was contradictory to what people believed in year 2000, which was that internet would allow people to communicate and exchange ideas better than ever before. Which was probably true for a brief moment.

[Anonymous No.10617803]

>>10617765
My normie older relatives and their friends all had Geocities pages, the internet was fully mainstream by 2001 in first world nations.

[Anonymous No.10617807]

>>10617798
Where does MGS2 mention social media or echo chambers?

[Anonymous No.10617808]

>>10617803
It might surprise you to learn that not all of the United States is evenly developed

[Anonymous No.10617809]

>>10617798
Who here is pretending it didn't predict shit?

[Anonymous No.10617810]

>>10617803
...Or your relatives were particularly interested in Geocities.

[Anonymous No.10617815]

>>10617790
It's wrong an unnatural for action games to not have a gay feel

[Anonymous No.10617819]

>>10617807
Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you one of those ADHD twitch gamers who skipped over all the codec conversations?

[Anonymous No.10617820]

>>10617803
Almost nobody checked the internet for news on 9/11. Main source was still television and papers.

[Anonymous No.10617824]

>>10617807
In the last codec call, inb4 they don't use the word "social media" iirc but what else would they be meaning. The echo chambers things is described how people isolate into their own groups so their so-called truths and world views never get validated nor invalidated by other people.

[Anonymous No.10617826]

>>10617824
>In the last codec call, inb4 they don't use the word "social media" iirc but what else would they be meaning.
Then what do they use?

[Anonymous No.10617827]

>>10617810
It was treated like a very primitive social media, they just posted their interests and in-jokes and generally shared normie shit.
>>10617820
I don't even live in some cutting-edge city or anything like that and I know this is false. Didn't grow up particularly wealthy. Where do you live, some backwater in the hills of Appalachia?

[Anonymous No.10617828]

>>10617815
what kind of action are we talking?

[Anonymous No.10617841]

>>10617827
Everybody had internet, yes. The concept was mainstream. But internet itself wasn't used as the mainstream source of anything yet in 2001. Well, except porn.

[Anonymous No.10617859]

>>10617826
Your mom.

You can watch it on youtube if you like, I recall it's 15 minutes tops.

[Anonymous No.10617872]

>>10617859
Fuck no. Watching that crap once was too much already.
Since you're so sure, why not just tell me what it said?

[Anonymous No.10617878]

>>10617872
Maybe the real friends was the context we created along the way.

[Anonymous No.10617881]

>>10617878
Ah, so you were lying then before.
Thanks for clearing that up.

[Anonymous No.10617883]

>does the exact same thing a year earlier in you're path

[Anonymous No.10617906]

>>10617872
Not my problem or task to type out what they said, you can probably find a text version online too.

[Anonymous No.10617909]

>>10617883
Is a better game too

[Anonymous No.10617912]

>>10617697
>sounds like you have self esteem issues

Well I'm married. Are you married anon? Because from the looks of things, it sounds like you're projecting your own insecurities over your lack of self-esteem by making non-sequitur remarks because someone insulted your favorite video game. I'd recommend seeking some mental help before you blow your head off with a meme shotgun like that one kid did a while back.

[Anonymous No.10617920]

>>10617697
>>10617796
>>10617701
>>10617734
>I-I-ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BAD
>YOU JUST DON'T G-G-GET IT
>YOU HAVE SELF-ESTEEM ISSUES SO CAN'T APPRECIATE LE SO-BAD-ITS-GOY

Yikes. Talk about an insecure fanbase. Jesus tap-dancing Christmas lights.

[Anonymous No.10617923]

>>10617906
It's your claim and your job to provide evidence.
I'm betting it just says something vague like "people communicating electronically" and you go OH MY GOD IT PREDICTED SOCIAL MEDIA

[Anonymous No.10617926]

>>10617923
Why do you have to bet if you watched the video?

[Anonymous No.10617931]

>>10617797
>one thread about splinter cell in over 3 months
>THESE FUCKING SPLINTER CELL FAGS CONSTANTLY MAKING THREADS ABOUT HOW MUCH BETTER IT IS THAN MGS

Meds. Now.

[Anonymous No.10617943]

>>10617926
I played the game over a decade ago.
You're the one who's so sure about it's content. Why not just tell me?

[Anonymous No.10617950]

>>10617943
You'll just have to be patient with the answer.

[Anonymous No.10617953]

>>10617923
Even worse, it mentioned "memes" in the context of social media and zoomers think memes didn't come into existence until TikTok existed, unaware that memes existed as far back as 1993 in regards to "internet culture". Kojima was literally just making social commentary of the time about how said internet culture was bloated with nonsense, because Kojima was insanely active in online Japanese message boards and probably got butthurt that his shitty "serious" posts got dog-piled by shitty low rent memes and so made MGS2 to bitch about how a bunch of retards online are drowning out "sooper srs debate". Almost all of his stories have some sort of history of him being personally slighted.

[Anonymous No.10617981]

>>10617953
>Almost all of his stories have some sort of history of him being personally slighted.

That's how all the best stories begin.

[Anonymous No.10618014]

>>10617981
That's how all of the worst stories begin. Truly good stories are taken from higher concepts rather than obsession with the self.

[Anonymous No.10618020]

>>10617920
Kingdom Hearts all over again

[Anonymous No.10618021]

>>10617953
Well that provides some interesting context to it if true. What about the other guy who was the writer in MGS2?

[Anonymous No.10618027]

>>10617920
If you make posts this stupid:
>>10617542
Expect to be called out as the tard you are.

[Anonymous No.10618035]

>>10617953
There's not a single instance of the word "meme" in MGS2.

[Anonymous No.10618037]

>>10617734
Saying the exact opposite, but please, do keep posting and showing us all how fucking nigger-tarded you are.

[Anonymous No.10618042]

>>10617923
NTA, but here's the entire mess of a retarded speech.

[Anonymous No.10618054]

>>10617502
Getting peed on then calling the Colonel

https://youtu.be/FPBiO7WiQU4?si=MDtEtnFogu05m9d3

[Anonymous No.10618061]

>>10618042
I dunno what the world would be, if not "prediction" then just something that was written then but it becomes more true as time passes. Someone said Kojima was already pissed with internet culture back then, not sure if true, but it would mean that the text was true then too but it didn't yet affect normies.

[Anonymous No.10618063]

>>10618042
Idk sounds pretty spot on,minus a few things.

[Anonymous No.10618070]

There is so much silly shit in this game, with basically every single physics interaction having potential for something silly happening that I honestly can't believe that someone would play this game and think it "takes itself too seriously". Unless you think that the game having any sort of themes and message is taking itself too seriously. I know there are definitely people in this thread who have already gotten angry at the concept of a game raising intelligent points.

[Anonymous No.10618072]

>>10618063
Literally nothing in the entire essay of a wall of text has come true, even 1%. Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.10618082]

>>10618042
lmao
this is pretty much the opposite of current day social media

[Anonymous No.10618085]

>>10618070
If a game wastes an hour of your time with bullshit like this: >>10618042
Then yes, it takes itself too seriously.

[Anonymous No.10618090]

>>10618082
Precisely. He was about as wrong as you objectively could be, but low IQ retards, ironically, fail to understand the "context" of what is actually being said here. The AI literally says it's supposed to act as a great filter to uplift humanity from the detritus of information stagnation, but in reality, in MODERN reality, it's doing nothing but contributing to it. And the government is using AI to further contribute to it in order to keep people distracted and misinformed on purpose.

[Anonymous No.10618105]

>>10618042
>genes don't contain any record of human history

Kojima is an idiot.

[Anonymous No.10618131]

>>10618090
The thing is in reality no AI exists as of yet, and the chatbots and other things which compute information are filtered by governments pretty hard to not find or at least show publicly any wrong information so they at least keep the humanity down somewhat.

Also both the mgs2 AI and real life "AI" are able to lie.

[Anonymous No.10618146]

>>10618131
>so they at least keep the humanity down somewhat.
That's the opposite of what that text says.
It says the new freedom keeps humanity down, and a central power is needed to uplift it.

[Anonymous No.10618149]

>>10618131
Depends on what you mean by "lie". Lying is based on intent to deceive, which real life AI is incapable of doing as of yet.

[Anonymous No.10618169]

>>10618146
>That's the opposite of what that text says.
That's what I mean, they (the game AI) could lie to you that this is for your own good but they just want you to submit to their power. Or they could be telling the truth or just fucking with the player.

>>10618149
Real life AI doesn't exist as of now. Computers more intelligent than humans have existed for quite some time, you can say that a pocket calculator is better and faster at math than the best human even if the machine is human made. Or the machines that beat humans at chess. The AI uses stuff like the computer sees millions of pictures and never forgets any of them, that's also a skill some autistic types of people have but it's pretty rare. The chatbots we know of don't think, they are just complex machines, and if they wish to lie or not talk about something then true, that is coded to it by a human like the other stuff.

[Anonymous No.10618175]

>>10618082
I see that creating context is akin to controlling the narrative and thats 100% happening on multiple fronts, with multiple elitist powers creating their own "AI" to create the context they want to. So, yeah it's pretty spot on minus a few things, just like I said. it's not "exactly word for word molecule by molecule" the same thing that's happening in real life, but it hits all the important points. Elites controlling information, AI used to control the information for the elites, people rely on AI. I have read posts from people who now rely on chatGPT for their work and when chatGPT is down they are basically frozen, because they are using it at such a synergistic level already, it's like it's becoming second nature to use AI as a sounding board and tutor and research assistant and secretary, etc...

[Anonymous No.10618178]

>>10618169
>That's what I mean, they (the game AI) could lie to you that this is for your own good but they just want you to submit to their power. Or they could be telling the truth or just fucking with the player.
How is that relevant to MGS2 predicting shit?

[Anonymous No.10618218]

>>10617912
>Well I'm married
Is that the one thing your sense of self-worth hinges on? That's cute.

[Anonymous No.10618243]

>>10617502
Yea no shit its a cool action game with a target audience of undeveloped 16 years old filled of retarded shit,
You cant judge it with a grown ass man point of view, but even when i played with 15 yo some cutscenes made me cringe hard but maybe thats the point

[Anonymous No.10618260]

>>10617953
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm not an expert), but I wouldn't be surprised if what he was experiencing was like what happened to the English Internet in the 2010s over there.

[Anonymous No.10618413]

>>10618090
Did you not play MGS4? The AI was full of shit, that's the point. Kojima was effectively saying what you're saying with this post. All it did was contribute to the shitpile.

[Anonymous No.10618449]

>>10617803

[Anonymous No.10618451]

>>10617803
>>10618449

[Anonymous No.10618460]

birdshit: the game

[Anonymous No.10618462]

>>10618451
Most of them are indians

[Anonymous No.10618481]

>>10618449
>unsourced data
>>10618451
most of that growth in the 2000s came from the third world

[Anonymous No.10618485]

>>10617953
cool fanfic

[Anonymous No.10618503]

>>10617498
You're not an adult if you're still scared of doing or enjoying """cringe""" things as an adult.

[Anonymous No.10618515]

>>10617565
MGS 2 is literally a shitpost game. It makes you play the entirety of MGS 1 again with a different coat and then calls you stupid for playing it. It's hilarious

[Anonymous No.10618518]

>>10618481
True, and not just India, but also mainland China, Taiwan, the Balkans, and South Americans.

[Anonymous No.10618539]

>>10618481
>https://www.infoplease.com/math-science/computers-internet/us-households-with-computers-and-internet-use-1984-2014
>Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Current Population Survey, Select Years.
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/computer-internet/computer-use-1984-2009.html
Good for you for not accepting it blindly, but it's accurate.

[Anonymous No.10618561]

>>10618169
>Computers more intelligent than humans have existed for quite some time,

No, they haven't. There's computers that are capable of doing certain things faster than humans, but computers are still very very dumb, and need to taught and trained and programmed to do very simple, small things. For instance, we still don't have a machine that is smart enough to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

[Anonymous No.10618563]

>>10618449
Are you trying to argue that 50% isn't "mainstream"?

[Anonymous No.10618565]

>>10617494
Jean Baudrillard already did this decades earlier, Kojima just stole all his ideas and made a game based on them.

[Anonymous No.10618598]

>>10617725
You're a stupid fucking retarded moron, and you should feel bad for such things.

>Kojima was thinking about fucking Napster
Right, a program which came out years before MGS2, which was HUGELY INFLUENTIAL IN THE ENTIRE WORLD AND ALMOST EVERYONE WHO HAD ACCESS TO A COMPUTER HAD HEARD ABOUT. Retard. Who WASN'T thinking of Napster even before the PS2 released?

>well before most of the world was online and plugged in to giant corporate broadband user-generated media platforms and thinking about the implications and consequences thereof.
>thinking seriously about generative AI (beyond hypotheticals) in the last couple years.
You stupid fucking asshole, WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SHIT SINCE THE 60'S WITH 2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY. FUCK OFF YOU PRETENTIOUS NIT-WIT.

[Anonymous No.10618607]

>>10618451
Look up the Dot Com Bubble, zoomer. Access to the internet is different from knowing about it.

[Anonymous No.10618626]

>>10618449
I'd say that once it reached at least 20%, it became mainstream anon. Less than 50% of people owned a smart phone back in 2012, but you were seen as a luddite if you didn't, and even kids in high school had one.

[Anonymous No.10618641]

>>10618598
You seem mad bro, take some meds

[Anonymous No.10618646]

>>10618641
>you seem mad

>"Hey, this dude you've never heard of invented the light bulb"
>"No, he didn't, fuck off"
>"Yes huh, and you should listen to me and bow down to him"

Yea, no, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.10619126]

>>10617498
years ago when my mom walked in on me playing it, ocelot was on the screen and she immediately got a crush on him.

[Anonymous No.10619137]

>>10618503
But my dad still makes fun of the stuff I like :(

[Anonymous No.10619145]

>>10617494
Based.
>>10617498
Still less embarrassing than anything out of Hollywood, especially capeshit.

[Anonymous No.10619147]

>>10618626
You could call it mainstream enough, as in it wasn't that odd to have an internet connection. But even the people using it back then weren't using it to the extent that we do now. The internet didn't dominate most people's lives even if they had it in their house.

[Anonymous No.10619153]

>>10618607
I'm almost certainly older than you.
>>10618563
Wasn't trying to argue anything, just sharing "context" for this thread. You people are too angry and want to pick a fight over everything.

[Anonymous No.10619164]

>>10618565
Related ideas, but not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.10619246]

>>10619145
Nah, it is capeshit tier but gayer

[Anonymous No.10619251]

>>10619147
Okay? The colonel's speech doesn't mention the internet. In fact it's pretty vague.

[Anonymous No.10619256]

>>10619153
>I'm almost certainly older than you.

I'm in my 30's. Either way, the internet was old news by 2001.

[Anonymous No.10619261]

>>10619256
The internet in 2001 was nothing compared to the internet now.
>I'm in my 30's.
So I was right.
>>10619251
Not even talking about MGS2, just the internet.

[Anonymous No.10619294]

>>10617498
Faggot

[Anonymous No.10619296]

>>10619261
lol, fossil

[Anonymous No.10619302]

>>10619296
You'll be old too soon enough. Enjoy your youth while it lasts.

[Anonymous No.10619306]

>>10619261
>I was right
Of course you were, because you're too much of a lying coward to admit to your age, so you inevitably wait for someone to say theirs and then you one-up them. This isn't my first rodeo, zoomer.

[Anonymous No.10619314]

>>10619261
>The internet in 2001 was nothing compared to the internet now.

Stupid take. The internet now is actually far more consolidated. In reference to the colonel's speech, it's actually the opposite that has happened. It states that people "withdraw into their own small gated community, afraid of a larger forum", but with consolidation, everyone has been forced to engage in the larger communities. Funny how that works, and this actually proves to me you're a lot younger than you pretend to be, since anyone who was around at the time will remark that the internet seemed like a far larger place than it is now.

[Anonymous No.10619326]

>>10619314
If you're so old, then learn to read. My only point in this thread was that the internet was less pervasive and played a much smaller role in people's lives back in 2001. Consolidation of the internet doesn't change that simple fact.

As for how right or wrong MGS2 got it, that's a separate topic. But your point is stupid. People withdrawing into their own gated communities still happens now obviously, consolidated or not. You can withdraw into small groups on Facebook or Twitter easily enough.

[Anonymous No.10619329]

>>10619326
I'd say how right or wrong it "got" things is also irrelevant because it is science fiction. The point isn't to predict the future, the point is to explore humanity and its relation to technology. The subject matter raised in the game is more relevant now than it was in 2001.

[Anonymous No.10619330]

>>10619329
Agreed

[Anonymous No.10619335]

>>10617765
>dial-up
oof definitely painful

[Anonymous No.10619337]

>>10619335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsVfElI-7oo

[Anonymous No.10619348]

>>10619326
>My only point in this thread was that the internet was less pervasive and played a much smaller role in people's lives back in 2001.
So then what's your statement? Nobody gives a shit about your point if it doesn't have a statement it's trying to make. THE SKY IS BLUE! Wow, okay, good for you genius. How does that relate to the topic?

>But your point is stupid. People withdrawing into their own gated communities still happens now obviously, consolidated or not. You can withdraw into small groups on Facebook or Twitter easily enough.
Says the retard who literally just made a trivial objection fallacy. Yes, you can infinitely regress a community into smaller and smaller communities, but overall, what we've seen, is the exact opposite of the game's statement in question come to fruition. You can't acknowledge that because you're insecure and you need to be right.

[Anonymous No.10619350]

>>10619329
>>10619330
That would be agreeable if the topic of this thread wasn't literally about the game predicting the future, you absolute retard-faggots.

[Anonymous No.10619356]

>>10619348
Calm down Clarence. I shared a couple images in this thread and you spazzed out.
>>10619350
>noooo you have to post only about "the topic of the thread" without any tangents
lol okay

[Anonymous No.10619362]

>>10619356
Glad to see you've now completely given up.

[Anonymous No.10619363]

>>10617498
you sound like a boring fuck and also arent you an adult? why would anynbody walk in on you?

[Anonymous No.10619367]

>>10617494
Fun game, interesting ending, but ultimately nothing it said was new or unknown at the time.

[Anonymous No.10619369]

>>10617514
>>10617516
>>10617549
>>10618054
you guys sound like a bunch of boring motherfuckers, i bet you are the same retards that want videogames to be taken serious and be seen as a form of art.
(though i agree vamp was fucking retarded)

[Anonymous No.10619372]

>>10619369
> i bet you are the same retards that want videogames to be taken serious and be seen as a form of art.
Video games can't be art, because they are games.

[Anonymous No.10619375]

>>10617538
souls games are way cringier to me because of how serious people take them

[Anonymous No.10619376]

>>10617542
yeah anon that was the point of the story, do you have brain damage?

[Anonymous No.10619379]

>>10619375
Soulsgames are cringe because of how seriously people take the lore in them, when it's re-written and retconned literally every single fucking game. I remember the fallout over Dark Souls 2 shitting completely on Dark Souls 1's lore. That game's image still hasn't recovered from the autistic fanboys that threw hissyfits over it.

[Anonymous No.10619383]

[Anonymous No.10619384]

>>10619376
>that was the point of the story
Literally the opposite. The AI says, verbatim, that it's purpose is to erase the overwhelming useless data. It's what the whole sperg about "context" was in the game. Jesus fucking christ, I hate the game and even I'm having to explain it to the retards who love it.

[Anonymous No.10619386]

>>10619379
you should be ashamed for knowing about this shit, loser

[Anonymous No.10619387]

>>10617565
yes it does, now look at shit like the last of us that game takes itself very serious to the point that there is no humor whatsoever because its a "serious" videogame

[Anonymous No.10619394]

>>10617572
while i did love msg2 and the story(something i usually dont give a shit about in a videogame) they fans really over sell it and fellate it, and kojima's later works really come off as pretentious. you cant convince me for a second that the guy that wrote the first 4 metal gear games (1 and 2 for the msx and 1 and 2 solid) is the same guy that wrote death stranding

[Anonymous No.10619396]

>>10619383
And this is the problem with the central premise of MGS2. It takes a premise that has existed for thousands of years (the victors being the ones that write history), and pretends like it thought of the concept of its own.

[Anonymous No.10619397]

>>10619386
Why? I guarantee I've achieved more in life than you have. That would conversely make "you" the loser, wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.10619398]

>>10617589
come on dude kingdom hearts has fucking goofy and some anime kid fighting sephiroth there is no way anybody can take that seriously not even ironically

[Anonymous No.10619402]

>>10619384
Pretty much, but they don't need or want to erase it. Their plan isn't censorship. Just creating and controlling the context around all the useless data.
>>10619396
I guess it's different that people now are using the same arguments as the MGS2 AIs to control information. Too much useless data and misinformation online, so we need to control it to protect people.

[Anonymous No.10619403]

>>10617601
the game has good enough writting but it then goes into anime dialog way too often which is jarring

[Anonymous No.10619404]

>>10619396
That's not the premise THOUGH.

[Anonymous No.10619408]

>>10619398
WITNESS MY POWER LEVEL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfSMvaTD9dw

[Anonymous No.10619409]

>>10619397
knowing about soulsfag shitflinging is definitely something I have not achieved in my life lol

[Anonymous No.10619415]

>>10617773
it had a dude that could drain you blood and transform into you, it probably didnt faze you because you never actually see him doing it you meet him while disguised as the darpa chief, but i still think that vamp is retarded as much as i liked msg2

[Anonymous No.10619419]

>>10617790
metal gear 2 solid snake is my favorite one so far, i've only played up to metal gear solid 2, i heard the writting gets pretty dumb in the later games, solid two already got pretty dumb by having a vampire in it

[Anonymous No.10619425]

>>10619419
First MGS is the only good one

[Anonymous No.10619426]

>>10617807
jesus you are one of those retards that needs thing to be spelled out to you arent you?

[Anonymous No.10619427]

>>10619425
MGS3 is good.

[Anonymous No.10619438]

>>10618515
which is especially hillarious once you realize by msg1 it was the third time they did that but this time it was part of the story, msg1 fells like some sort of weird remake of the previous 2 games that came for the msx

[Anonymous No.10619442]

>>10619246
cape shit wishes it was half as good

[Anonymous No.10619445]

>>10619372
not my point, but i agree with you

[Anonymous No.10619450]

>>10619384
right right, sorry i had a retard moment

[Anonymous No.10619451]

>>10619427
at being the worst.

[Anonymous No.10619454]

>>10619396
the writter maybe liked to pretend that he came up with it but in the game itself it doesnt come off like that

[Anonymous No.10619456]

>>10617704
That's because it literally is a test environment in-universe but that doesn't make it any more interesting visually

[Anonymous No.10619460]

>>10619408
jesus i remember watching my best friend playing one of the games and there was a section were the main characters turns into a mermaid and there is like a musical in the world of the little mermaid and i still remember how hard i was cringing, it is worth mentioning that he later trooned out

[Anonymous No.10619465]

>>10619425
2 was pretty good gameplay wise, but its pretty much making you go through the same game (yet again) except in an oil rig, the original msg was basically metal gear 1 (msx) but in a snowy island instead of a desert

[Anonymous No.10619470]

>>10619465
>the original msg was basically metal gear 1 (msx) but in a snowy island instead of a desert

Not MG1 but MG2: Solid Snake

[Anonymous No.10619476]

>>10619470
it felt like a combination of both but on a smaller scale which was disappointing

[Anonymous No.10619490]

>>10619465
I was talking about the story/aesthetics. Kojima's 3D games are pretty shallow, entries made by other people really show how low risk his games really are.

[Anonymous No.10619493]

>>10619490
i did like the story of msg 2 but im talking video game standards here, obviously not comparing it to films or books

[Anonymous No.10619525]

>>10619394
>>10619415
>>10619438
>>10619465
>>10619493
>msg

Do you have brain damage?

[Anonymous No.10619547]

>>10617498
My mom walked in when otacons sister was talking about their family troubles

[Anonymous No.10619562]

>>10619398
you aren't actually disagreeing with that post, kingdom hearts and metal gear are both cringe series

[Anonymous No.10619721]

>>10617498
Faggot

[Anonymous No.10619828]

Did somebody mention it is a bit gay ?

[Anonymous No.10619843]

>>10617803
i'm from france and like 10% of my schoolmates has internet at home. 2001 was just the beggining of normiezation of the internet. i knew a guy who played online games back in 1998-1999 but he was a spoiled turbo-geek whose mom bought everything he wanted.

[Anonymous No.10619890]

>>10617494
>deconstructs your imminent digital dystopia
i feel pity for the /v/edditors who believe this shit lmao Movie Game Slop 2 is fucking trash

[Anonymous No.10620154]

>>10617494
We used to just watch games before Hideo invented 'gameplay' in 1987. Unfortunately it became a lost technology

[Anonymous No.10621483]

>>10618042
Christ it's fucking nuts how accurate it was.

[Anonymous No.10621869]

>>10617494
If this game, was produced before MGS1 everyone would be raving about it. I agree, the story line (adding raiden and keeping snake in the background) was a mistake.

There are many worse follow up games.

[Anonymous No.10621874]

why should I play metal gear solid

[Anonymous No.10622021]

>>10621483
>Christ it's fucking nuts how gay it was.
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.10622040]

>>10621874
I'd say it's a solid title.