/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10616635]

Why is FF6 considered the best FF game after 30 years?

[Anonymous No.10616638]

Because the other FF games are worse.
Kudos to the job system in 5.

[Anonymous No.10616706]

>>10616635
Because FF games are not very good to begin with

[Anonymous No.10616720]

Because it's a great game.

[Anonymous No.10616749]

>>10616635
Cuz it's real gud.

[Anonymous No.10616763]

>>10616635
Because millennials played it in the 90's
/thread

[Anonymous No.10616774]

>>10616635
It's good.

[Anonymous No.10616986]

Shit taste. Also still made the series was taken from them. If 7 was on the Ninny you can be sure you'd all be slobbering over it

[Anonymous No.10616989]

Shit taste. Also still mad the series was taken from them. If 7 was on the Ninny you can be sure you'd all be slobbering over it

[Anonymous No.10616995]

>>10616763
guess how I know you're a fat fucking spastic?

[Anonymous No.10617020]

Should I play it as my first FF game and first JRPG? I hear it's real long and I don't want to ruin my impression about the genre

[Anonymous No.10617026]

>>10617020
Difficult question for anyone to answer - no one knows you or what you like. RPGs of that era are long because they're designed to be. Levelling up characters means repeating random fights over and over and gaining experience so you cross a threshold which expotenially increases each time but you can win fights quicker etc. This means repeatign the same sort of thing ver and over before your story moves forward. Does that remotely sound your sort of bag?

[Anonymous No.10617037]

>>10616635
Arrested development from butthurt Nintendo 64 fans who to this day remain butthurt Square ditched them.

If you played them all with a clear conscience, you would realize the best one is FF V

[Anonymous No.10617038]

>>10616995
You called me a fat fucking spastic, but you didn't call me wrong!

[Anonymous No.10617039]

>>10616635
VI is the hipster answer VII is the actual answer

[Anonymous No.10617051]

>>10617039
Sure, if you don’t like a decent story with a plethora of interesting characters.

[Anonymous No.10617056]

>>10617051
>plethora of interesting characters
Kefka and Celes are the only real characters in 6

[Anonymous No.10617063]

>>10617056
ah yes, Umaro, Gau, Relm, Mog, Shadow, Gogo, super interesting characters...

[Anonymous No.10617091]

Mechanically, it was a step back from V. Narratively, it was surpassed by following entries. FFVI is in nowhere's land and only thrives on nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.10617093]

>>10617039
True and based
>>10617051
Whiny and false

[Anonymous No.10617094]

>>10616635
Over-enthusiastic Super Nintendo fans, it's alright but pales in comparison to later games in the series.

[Anonymous No.10617096]

>>10617056
>>10617063
>reeeee stop liking things I don't sign off on
go back to /v/ for FUCK sake. Have schools not gone back yet? You are clearly not adults.

>>10617091
>Narratively, it was surpassed by following
entries
Oh, please, do elaborate.

[Anonymous No.10617104]

>>10617096
I elaborated in my original post already. If you lack reading comprehension, go back to school.

[Anonymous No.10617110]

>>10617104
How the fuck is anyone supposed to know which of the gibberish responses in this thread are yours, you monumental cretin? "I don't like thing over this other thing" is elaborating by any stretch of the definition.

[Anonymous No.10617115]

>>10617051
dafuq? 7 has one of the best plots of all time and the characters are great.

[Anonymous No.10617168]

It's kind of a shame how often people show the pixel remaster version now instead of the original. You see ot used for wikis and articles all the time now.

It's the most entertaining to me personally. Gameplay is still great even if FFV's job system is preferred by many. I like how VI gives you a lot of the same options without grinding for them, makes it easier to play around. The game is full of secrets and I like the open-ended second half. Story is cool without taking itself too seriously or interrupting the game too much. The music is best in the series. Coolest character and monster designs for me too. FFIV through IX are all amazing though, mostly a matter of personal preference. It's a popular choice, but there's always been arguments over which is best.

[Anonymous No.10617176]

>>10617039
The actual answer is VI and VII are both great and of roughly equal quality.

[Anonymous No.10617180]

>>10617168
The FF wiki has this fucking bizarre practice where they update EVERYTHING to the latest version no matter what. Prior to pixel remaster the default images on pages that were applicable was the fucking *mobile ports*.

[Anonymous No.10617196]

>>10617063
All those characters are interesting though. A secret yeti berserker character isn't deep or developed, but it's interesting. Little things like seeing him appear early in the game ate cool too.

Gogo being a mysterious character found inside a giant worm is interesting as fuck, along with how he works gameplay-wise. Not using this to say VI > VII or anything, just saying I appreciate the variety of characters. VII did cool stuff too, like hiding Yuffie in forests.

[Anonymous No.10617206]

>>10617180
Yeah I hate that. This is an improvement over seeing the ugly mobile ports, but I don't get why they don't use the original versions.

[Anonymous No.10617217]

>>10617020
Play Chrono Trigger and use that to decide if you like old JRPGs

[Anonymous No.10617221]

>>10617168
>>10617180
>>10617206
It used to be you couldn't look for these games without seeing that affront against art that was the mobile version. I can live with this. At one point I literally bought the fucking strategy guide for FF5/6 (released for the PSX release in the early 2000s) so I didn't have to use the wikis when looking something up.

[Anonymous No.10617238]

>>10617020
It's not a long game by RPG standards, it's like 30-40 hours long. Final Fantasy VI is a great first RPG. Very good and not overly long or difficult. I'd say start with it or Final Fantasy VII. If you want a non-FF RPG, Chrono Trigger or Super Mario RPG would be good too. I started with Phantasy Star IV personally.

Honestly though, RPGs aren't that hard to get into, you could jump into something like SaGa Frontier even if it'll be confusing for a few hours. Just play whatever looks cool to you.

[Anonymous No.10617251]

>>10617020
It was the first one I played. It is not a long game by genre. Probably 40 hours if you don't know what you're doing and 24 hours on replay.

[Anonymous No.10617341]

>>10616635
Out of the first 9 games (where I stopped) it's not my personal favorite but overall I think it's the best one. It does a very good job of not having one main character but having each character have their own storyline that ties through and the story overall is really good. It also strikes a good balance between each character feeling unique having their own special abilities in battle, but there's enough customization that if you want to use a character you think is cool but their special ability isn't great you can still make them useful.

[Anonymous No.10617386]

I think I have an exteme case of "turn based games fucking SUCK" attitude. I tried so hard to like jrpgs because I fucking love their music and generally their art direction and monster designs. But holy fuck their stories and their gameplay are always absolute trash.

Luckily I still had loads of fun with the Mana games and tactics games like shining force. But I cannot for the love of me get into FF or DQ at all, I really just can't understand the appeal.

[Anonymous No.10617404]

>>10617386
They do require a special patience to play, but I still prefer turn-based for JRPGs. Action battle systems belong to action games.

[Anonymous No.10617410]

>>10617404
Idk why but action ones are fun but do not hook me that much. I love the planing and using my head. It is just well my heads too slow to reallife time combot fucks me bad.

[Anonymous No.10617557]

>>10617096
>reeeee stop liking things I don't sign off on
That's YOU you fucking idiot cunt, earlier you said this:
>Sure, if you don’t like a decent story with a plethora of interesting characters.

[Anonymous No.10617594]

>>10616635
Mostly because it has the best soundtrack and atmosphere. Both the light and dark worlds have great distinct feels of their own.

[Anonymous No.10617648]

>>10616749
they dont think it be like this but it do

[Anonymous No.10617718]

>>10617557
Not him, but what's bad about pointing out it has a plethora of interesting characters.

[Anonymous No.10617736]

Loaded question. You have not proved your assertion, "FF5 is considered the best game after 30 years". You must justify your claim with evidence before you can ask "why" questions about it.

[Anonymous No.10617743]

>>10616635
I hate how all playthroughs and ecelebs all use the Pixel Remaster now. People really do have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.10617747]

I've replayed FF1 and FF4 every few years for 20-30 years now-- original NES and SNES ("FF2") versions only. I simply have no desire to play FF6 again, nor to play any rereleases/remakes/retranslations/"fixes".
Sorry, liberals! I'm just not gonna do it.

[Anonymous No.10617750]

>>10617026
Grinding is there as a crutch for people who have no idea what they're doing so they can tear through the game regardless. Those who actually take the time to figure out how the game works can get through it with minimal grinding. Admittedly, though, a lot of RPGs don't properly convey their mechanics beyond really basic shit, so often times you end up having to look up some autist's FAQ for how to really exploit the game.

[Anonymous No.10617764]

>>10617747
Do you play any other FFs or just those two?

[Anonymous No.10617783]

Advent Children came out and then FF6 became the contrarian pick for best in the series. That's the full story. CT chads never cared though.

[Anonymous No.10617789]

>>10617743
I'd be okay with the pixel remasters if they at least included all the bonus content from the GBA and/or PSP versions.

[Anonymous No.10617825]

>>10617750
>Admittedly, though, a lot of RPGs don't properly convey their mechanics beyond really basic shit, so often times you end up having to look up some autist's FAQ for how to really exploit the game.
That's because most of these early era games were made in such a way that you would want to buy a strategy guide.
There are exceptions, sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10617834]

>>10617783
Idk what CT stands for

[Anonymous No.10617840]

>>10617783
FF6 was championed as the best from the moment FF7 came out. It's a good game, I think it's a great game but it's always been controversial.

[Anonymous No.10617846]

>>10617834
He means Chrono Trigger

[Anonymous No.10617849]

>>10617840
Yeah. It was also championed as the best from the moment FF6 came out. Granted, Americans only had I, IV, and VI to choose from at the time.

[Anonymous No.10617860]

>>10616635
I'm playing through FFVI right now. It's good, combat is fast-paced and the menuing is intuitive and easy. Lots of minigames and events as you progress to break up the monotony.

With FFVI you really don't want to grind, especially not early game, because it's got a goofy system that keeps most of your stats from going up from leveling. instead you should wait until you start getting Espers. there are certain ones you can equip and that'll give you one stat bonus at level up. This is kinda annoying to keep track of, in practice it's a lot of extra menuing checking your characters EXP every few battles and making sure to equip the Esper that gives you a stat bonus just before each character levels up, and then unequipping it right after to swap it to the next character leveling up.

[Anonymous No.10617862]

>>10616635
Tranny game.
The only good FFs are 1,2,3,5

[Anonymous No.10617867]

>>10617849
I think with good reason too. It's not personally my favorite, but I see why it's generally considered the best.

[Anonymous No.10617870]

>>10616635
4-6 are the best in the series.

[Anonymous No.10617871]

>>10617038
Then, I take back what I said. You're thin and healthy, but wrong. Now, I can finally win this argument.

[Anonymous No.10617885]

>>10617860
The reality is you never need to grind at all for levels, the game is pretty easy overall and not grinding gives at least some of the fights some tension. Most grinding type stuff is looking for specific enemies to steal shit from like Ribbons or on the veldt.

[Anonymous No.10617887]

>>10617221
Yo, GameFAQs still exists

[Anonymous No.10617890]

6 wasn’t good
It’s overrated and, like any game hyped up by midwits with no introspection, is only highly regarded because of when it came out and at what point in their human development its dickriders first played through it.

>The characters are shallow and forgettable and have boring designs
>The battle system is broken and all over the place, making over half of the available spells and abilities and items just plain useless
>The story is just the same tired evil empire Star Wars ripoff that they’ve always done, and anything involving Magicite was immediately mogged to oblivion by 7’s Mako/Materia, both as a plot and gameplay element
>The soundtrack is overrated, Opera song isn’t even good and sounds like shit- mogged by Chrono Trigger on its own home console

I can go on and on about how it’s just the dullest experience imaginable. Is it FF2 levels of bad? No, of course not. But is it the savior of the franchise like the crusty fat 40 year olds in here would have you believe because they played it religiously as kids/teens during the only part of their lives where they were happy? Fuck no, this shit is like FF9-tier at best.

[Anonymous No.10617894]

>>10617890
>The characters are shallow and forgettable and have boring designs

Which Final Fantasies do you think have more memorable and better designed characters?

[Anonymous No.10617904]

>>10617063
>Shadow
Did you let him die and miss the detailed backstory with him? Or the bit about him being another characters father?
Genuinely curious, it's not the most amazing story in the world or anything but including him with Umaro and Gogo is a little strange

[Anonymous No.10617908]

>>10617894
Ask anyone that vaguely knows about Final Fantasy and/or has played through the games once or maybe twice, and see who they name first.

I GUARANTEE it sure as hell isn’t fucking Gau or Cyan

[Anonymous No.10617910]

>>10617890
>Fuck no, this shit is like FF9-tier at best.
FF9 is top tier though

[Anonymous No.10617913]

>>10617890
>is only highly regarded because of when it came out and at what point in their human development its dickriders first played through it.
>But is it the savior of the franchise like the crusty fat 40 year olds in here would have you believe because they played it religiously as kids/teens during the only part of their lives where they were happy?
People always say this shit about games they want to call overrated, but it can be applied to any popular game. Every game was new and played by 12 year olds at some point. I've heard it said about Ocarina of Time, Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy VII, Halo, and a bunch of others. But plenty of people played those years after they came out and still loved them. Just seems like a lame way to dismiss a game.

[Anonymous No.10617916]

>>10617910
I’ll admit I opened up that post with inflammatory statements to draw attention and engagement.
Final Fantasy 6 is *okay*, just nowhere near GOAT where people here would ever have you believe.
At best, I’d put it somewhere slightly below 9

[Anonymous No.10617919]

>>10617913
>But plenty of people played those years after they came out and still loved them
I'll stop you there for Ocarina. Loved? Sure, it's a good game, but the only people who call it the best are the people who grew up with it.

[Anonymous No.10617921]

>>10617908
Gau actually sometimes yes, and it's very common to hear Locke or Terra or Celes. Why did you avoid answering the actual question though?

[Anonymous No.10617924]

>>10617789
>bonus content from the GBA and/or PSP versions.
those are trash and low effort

[Anonymous No.10617952]

>>10617919
There's definitely something to the idea that everybody is most attached to the stuff they played as kids. I'm sure people who grew up with OoT are more likely to call it the best Zelda. But like you said it's a good game and people still appreciate it. A quick search shows people playing it for the first time more recently and still calling it the best.
https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/kpt2cg/oot_first_time_playing_ocarina_of_time_just_wow/
https://www.reddit.com/r/zelda/comments/734lma/first_time_playing_ocarina_of_time/

You could try saying it's just them going with the hype or something (being redditors), calling it best because that's the popular opinion. But it's enough to show people who grew up with it aren't the only ones calling it the best.

[Anonymous No.10617958]

>>10617952
I played Chrono Trigger very late in life after avoiding it because I hate Toryama's art and had to agree it's easily one of the best RPGs of the era.

[Anonymous No.10617960]

>>10617908
I've played most FFs and replayed the older ones repeatedly. Cyan is one of my favorite characters in the series. You're probably right that people would say Cloud or someone more major first, but most people who played FFVI like Cyan. At least his design/story, gameplay-wise SwdTech is disappointing.

[Anonymous No.10617974]

>>10617958
Yeah, I know a lot of people who played CT on emulators years in the 2000s and fell in love with it. Seems common with all the good old RPGs, FFVI included. JRPGs haven't changed all that much over the years when you get down to it, so I don't see as many people reacting to old ones like they do to Goldeneye or something.

Even Goldeneye is still a great game I think, it just might take people time to adjust to the controls and stuff when trying for the first time now.

[Anonymous No.10617992]

6 is the first where it doesn't feel like an evolution of the previous game but like a sidestep, and not a good one, but one that leaves you with a sprained ankle and Square just kept walking and now they have permanently fucked up their leg and should be shot like a HORSE.

>>10617168
It's fucking cancer, like FF7R is pretty much all results when you google FF7.

[Anonymous No.10618092]

>>10617992
what part of it rustled your jimmies?

[Anonymous No.10618097]

>>10616763
I played it in 2019 for the first time and I think it's way better than 7 or 10

[Anonymous No.10618103]

>>10616635
The hair color on those sprites looks so off.

[Anonymous No.10618107]

>>10617037
>FF V
Fun gameplay, everything else is utter shit.

[Anonymous No.10618110]

>>10617992
6 feels like an evolution of 4.
5 is the one that feels like a weird sidestep.

[Anonymous No.10618112]

Tera hair is not green
Link hair is not pink

[Anonymous No.10618130]

>>10616995
And gay as hell

[Anonymous No.10618134]

>>10618107
Yeah, except for the great cast, fun story, beautiful graphics, and amazing music. Oh wait, I guess everything else is fun too.

[Anonymous No.10618136]

>>10618112
To be fair, the sprite doesn't match her artwork. She looks in the sprite she's wearing a pink leotard with big shoulderpads, very 90s anime.

[Anonymous No.10618139]

>>10618092
>No proper job system
>Everything feels more mundane because of the tech everywhere
>Half of the game has no plot
>sprites look ugly, like they're tilted forward, everyone's a shitty Michael Jackson imitator

[Anonymous No.10618141]

>>10618134
>great cast
Lmao FFV's cast was the worst.

[Anonymous No.10618174]

>>10617908
I'm serious, why won't you say which game in the series has better characters? Are you just here to shitpost randomly? Let's go through them and you tell me what you think is better.

>1-3
Barely have any character development
>4
Very basic genric characters with aome clumsy pathos
>5
Also basic characters but more goofy
>7
Cloud is amazing, having a semi psycho unreliable narrator for a main character is very interesting. Red XIII is quite interesting. Tifa has little real development and if you think about what they do give you enough she's kind of an asshole. Barrett is a caricature, Aeris is completely flat, Yuffie is mostly just annoying.
>8
Has one of the most awesome characters in any JRPG but you barely play as him and for most of the game stuck as his mopey amnesiac son and his dorky amnesiac friends
>9
Also has some great characters but you already indicated you think they're shit so we can gloss over that.

So come on, if FFVI has shitty characters for the series, make a case for someone else or tell me where I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.10618182]

>>10618134
ffv has the blandest cast of the story based final fantasies by a long shot imo (except maybe 9 if you compare it with respect to the capabilities of the era). the music and graphics are unquestionably better in VI than V to me. the story is better too imo but that's more subjective i guess

[Anonymous No.10618197]

>>10618174
VI has my favorite cast in the series, but
>Barrett is a caricature
You're selling Barret short, he's one of the best characters in VII. The backstory with Marlene and Dyne is interesting, along with his whole role as the leader of Avalanche and how his past with Shinra and Corel ties into that.

[Anonymous No.10618213]

>>10617764
This doesn't really count, but Final Fantasy Adventure (Seiken Densetsu 1).

I enjoyed Mystic Quest and Stranger of Paradise

[Anonymous No.10618224]

>>10618197
Didn't even play the game since he's using the nonsense "Tifa is an asshole" point that has no basis on anything from the actual game.

[Anonymous No.10618267]

Why can't I land my airship in Troia in the FF2 Ultima remake? I'm wasting time when I could be leveling up

[Anonymous No.10618332]

>>10616638
The jobs system and the humor in that game is are few of the many reasons why snes ff games are goated

[Anonymous No.10618335]

>>10616635
theres two wholly different design philosophies in the mainline FF series
theres games that built off 1s open-ended freedom to build your party and go wherever you want (usually at the cost of narrative depth), and the other style that built off of 2s more focused plot (at the cost of player freedom)
as far as 6 goes, its prolly the best version of the latter that they ever did
some might say 9 and thats fair too tho imo thats more an attempt to marry the two styles than one or the other

my issue is that these narrative-based FFs are a chore to replay with their lengthy cutscenes, and your party composition at any given point being mostly determined by wherever you happen to be in its story
again, that DOES let the devs have a lot more room to tell a big epic story
but compare that with 5, which imo is the most replayable FF to date, and also the one that holds up best under modern scrutiny in every other aspect aside its narrative. 5 is admittedly thin in the story department, but its unparalleled freedom and perfect job system gives the tired JRPG formula a new lease on life

tl;dr
most FF/JRPG fans are there for the story, and 6 is the perfect sweetspot where its story is rather compelling, but not yet "jumped-the-shark" like later FFs (7, 8, 10 etc)

[Anonymous No.10618368]

>>10617020
Nah. Super Mario RPG is a great beginner JRPG or if you want something more mature then Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy 7 is good.

[Anonymous No.10618543]

>>10616763
Isn't that true of FF7 too tho?

[Anonymous No.10618591]

>>10618543
the (older) millennials that defend ff6 tooth and nail played it when they were 12 year olds
the (younger) millennials that defend ff7 tooth and nail played it when they were 12 year olds

except ff7 is actually good so it has more spinoffs and remakes and movies to keep it relevant

[Anonymous No.10618659]

>>10618591
diff fag but im one of those younger millenials and played 7 first and still think 6 is much better cuz it is
imo its just an age thing more than anything
as a 6yo, youre not particularly inclined to tear apart FF7s retarded, often hilariously poorly paced story. doesnt matter yet. it was epic to play as a kid, and that was the only point.

FF6, even with the somewhat mangled SNES translation, tells a story thats less fucktarded and full of weird plot holes like why does tifa just nod along for 3 discs with these crazy stories cloud keeps telling about being an ex super soldier?
also, instead of aeris dying and then you immediately go snowboarding cuz lol, most of FF6s tense moments are left to hang. you failed. someone died. a guys entire family and hometown were poisoned to death. theyre dead and arent coming back and theres no golden saucer to comfort you.
even with its far simpler sprite gfx, FF6 manages to feel more dramatic.

gameplaywise theyre very very similar. id give FF7 the edge there as materia was sometimes tedious/grindy, but still fun to level up and mess with. also tons of challenge/postgame stuff to do since they werent limited by cartridges
but regardless, FF6 nails the JRPG formula so hard that you still see echoes of it in the genre to this day. the series, itself, frequently rips FF6 off ffs. every mainline game afterwards feels like them trying to re-capture some of that games magic in one way or another

[Anonymous No.10620343]

>>10618543
Huh

[Anonymous No.10620364]

>>10616635
Amazing sountrack.
Excellent, and due to pixel art, timeless art direction.
Great story.
Great cast of characters.
Last big JRPG before the bloat set in. (a relatively thorough playthrough is something like 25 hours. A normal playthrough might be 20 hours or less.)

[Anonymous No.10620389]

>>10618335
No question, 5 has the best gameplay, and the best replayability. The music (except for Battle on the Big Bridge) is good, but not great. The graphics even seem a bit uninspired. The characters and story are paper-thin. But, the gameplay is just so deep, and fun, you could replay that game a million times.

[Anonymous No.10620396]

>>10620389
I just don't agree. Galuf is a more interesting character than anything in any previous FF game. Certainly less "thin" than Cecil or Kain.

[Anonymous No.10620494]

>>10616635
no angsty teenagers

[Anonymous No.10620495]

>>10620396
I don't disagree, I just think that overall the characters in FFV are not really developed. Just because prior entries do a worse job does not make this true. For FFVI-->IX, you have superior story compared to FFV, but generally worse game mechanics. For FF1-->IV, you have similar paper thin story / characters, and also worse game mechanics. This really makes FFV stand out from the field. From a pure gameplay perspective, it just can't be beaten. From a story or music perspective, most of the latter half of the retro titles just do it better. The early titles definitely aren't bad, but there's no a lot of reason to revisit them unless you're a big FF fan.

[Anonymous No.10620501]

FF3j is the best game in the series in terms of actual gameplay. Debate me.

[Anonymous No.10620509]

>>10620501
It's like FFV, but with fewer / worse jobs, and tons more grinding.

[Anonymous No.10620531]

>>10616635
Great presentation and it's structurally very cool with the world of ruin being so nonlinear. I replayed it and I'd forgotten how shallow it is writing-wise but it has good peaks

[Anonymous No.10620534]

>>10620501
I'll play 2 and 3 one of these days, I swear

[Anonymous No.10620918]

One of the best airships.

[Anonymous No.10621019]

>>10620918
>concept art

[Anonymous No.10621020]

>>10620501
It felt terrible to me. Especially the part where you have to use Mini on your party just to progress. It's stupid

[Anonymous No.10621030]

>>10621019
Indeed.

[Anonymous No.10621032]

>>10618267
wtf is the "FF2 Ultima remake"?
I swear your retarded ass has been saying that a bunch on /vr/ and making me think it's an actual thing

[Anonymous No.10621042]

>>10621030
This is the FF6 airship

[Anonymous No.10621113]

>>10621042
And this is a version of the FFI ship

[Anonymous No.10621128]

>>10621113
no, that's a drawing

[Anonymous No.10621147]

>>10621128
And this is a cgi photo from a mediocre film, but its an airship.

[Anonymous No.10621173]

>>10621147
if it's a screenshot from the movie it's in, then it's the airship from that movie

[Anonymous No.10621205]

>>10621019
>concept
I accept your conception.

[Anonymous No.10621219]

>>10616635
Because it was the last FF on a Nintendo system

[Anonymous No.10621224]

>>10621173
And here is a airship some guy built that's real. For a one person transport.

[Anonymous No.10621282]

>>10616635
Ff6 was the sweet spot for me.
>13 years old
>Game was fresh, no guide
>Summer break, inverted sleep schedule to avoid senpai
>Lots of meloncholy and perfect soundtrack to mirror my newly developed teen despair
>cyans family/train scene
>kefkas murders/enslaving espers
>fishing for cid (i failed)
>Shadows creepy ass dreams that scared me half to death while playing half asleep at 3 in the morning
>the opera scene
>the known world being totally destroyed and replaced by a dystopian nightmare
>lockes love
>Getting wiped for the first time by an unexpected attack while cruising in the airship
>The epic fight against the evil empire
> etc etc
I think this game created undeniable memories by constantly bombarding the player with repeated unspeakable horror that people of that age had never been exposed to before

[Anonymous No.10621378]

>>10618182
The music gets better the more you listen to it. It's an acquired taste because I didn't like it at first.

[Anonymous No.10621394]

Because whatever the actual best / most popular things is, Reddittors will claim to like the one right before that (6 and 9 in this case) so they can be contrarian to the mainstream but also fit in with their own echo chamber of contrarians.

[Anonymous No.10621602]

>>10621394
You just described /v/ in a nutshell.

[Anonymous No.10621616]

>>10621602
Anon, Xeno series IS a shit though.

[Anonymous No.10622417]

>>10617789
They’re objectively better than those versions for leaving that slap dash filler content out
The only thing really missing is FFIV After Years

[Anonymous No.10622431]

>>10618659
Because he shows up out of nowhere suddenly as strong as a SOLDIER 1st Class?
She clearly knows something’s going on but she can’t call bullshit because she has no proof he’s lying

[Anonymous No.10622439]

>>10621394
FFX is unironically when everything started going wrong with the FF franchise
FFXIII gets a lot of shit for being a hallway simulator, but that was already there from the start in FFX, they just dropped the pretense of having a world later since you consoomers gobbled it up

[Anonymous No.10622484]

I tried to play FF15 but it was so boring I stopped

[Anonymous No.10622495]

>>10622439
>FFIV is unironically when everything started going wrong with the FF franchise

fixed for you, when the series began to double down on story events, a useless world map and linearity, not even letting you pick your party members. same amount of optional dungeons as well

[Anonymous No.10622498]

FF started to go wrong when all the original devs retired or died and Square became a NFT and microtransactions company.

[Anonymous No.10622524]

>>10622439
This is correct. I was a die-hard FF fan, and FFX just sucked. I did play X-2, which had fun gameplay but worthless story. I tried to like FFXII, but it sucked shit. The last good FF was FFIX,

[Anonymous No.10622527]

>>10622417
Was after years any good? I never played it.

[Anonymous No.10622532]

>>10622495
Lets you pick part members: FFV, FFVI, FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX
Linear: All of them? Not sure what you're getting at here.

[Anonymous No.10622540]

>>10622532
you don't know what linear means until you play ff13, the game is literally a straight line

[Anonymous No.10622543]

Really don't understand why they haven't hopped on the classic server bandwagon with FFXI like all other mmos have been doing. It's almost like they just want everyone to finally quit so they can pull the plug rather than do something that would add tens of thousands of subscribers back into the game.

Also should be a single monthly fee for access to both FFXI and FFXIV.

[Anonymous No.10622553]

>>10622543
>almost like they just want everyone to finally quit so they can pull the plug
that's exactly what they're hoping for, why else would aggressive copyright troll SE ignore the rampant private server scene

[Anonymous No.10623031]

>>10616635
VII is best overall
IX is best aesthetically
V is best gameplay wise

[Anonymous No.10623295]

Chocobo's Dungeon.

/thread

[Anonymous No.10623302]

>>10616638
I'm an ff7 normie too but also fpbp. 5 is super fun. 1, 3 and 4 are incredibly comfy too but not "the best"

[Anonymous No.10623538]

I grew up with the ps1 and we got 4,5,6 anthology discs. Out of all the 2d ones, 6 definitely was the best.

later I got an NES emu and tried out ff1 and I actually really liked that one too

[Anonymous No.10623550]

>>10623538
ah i misremembered anthology was only 4 and 5 here in eu, and ff 6 had its own disc.
the opening cinematic in ff6 was kino tho
like ff7

[Anonymous No.10625141]

I think it's because it's just as good as 7, but in full 2D and having all the benefits from being a cart-based game instead of CD. In a way it's the last FF from a particular era, and one that goes with a bang.
I still prefer 7 for nostalgia reasons but I can understand people preferring 6

[Anonymous No.10625518]

>>10616635
I don't know, I couldn't even finish it and was well into WoR when I stopped.

[Anonymous No.10625528]

I beat ff6 (SNES) years ago and want to do a replay, but waiting for the console features to be implemented on the PC version of PR. The new QoL shit fixes most of my beef with the game, mostly annoyances (e.g., forgetting to equip the right esper at level up, having to constantly check how much XP left to level up, etc.)

[Anonymous No.10625553]

>>10625528
what console version are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.10625631]

>>10625553
pixel remaster

[Anonymous No.10625939]

>>10616635
It's art.

[Anonymous No.10625981]

>>10622543
I think they're planning something for XI, they announced an entire raid tier for XIV based on it this summer and they just started re-running the crossover campaign with it yesterday.

It was just a few years ago that they were actively trying to remake XI as well, so they clearly have some interest in keeping it alive

[Anonymous No.10626018]

The ensemble cast let you use your favorite characters most of the time even with plot forced characters occasionally. It's plot beats were unique for the time and still hold up a lot better than the others today. It's got Japanese weirdness without giving them too much room to go off the rails entirely like every later game. It's a lot of right place, right time kind of shit that added up and held up.

[Anonymous No.10626064]

>>10616635
>Impressively-ambitious scope for a SNES game
>Great story with a memorable, well-rounded cast despite being among the largest party ensembles in FF history
>Incredible soundtrack that takes full advantage of the SNES soundchip and sounds even better with a full orchestra, rivaling the scores of blockbuster films
>Incredible, artistic boss fights and unique (for the time) Jules Verne-esque Steampunk setting and art-direction

[Anonymous No.10626097]

>>10616635
Hipsters. Because everyone else says 7 is the best, they pretend to like 6 just to be contrarian. Most of them have never even played 6.

[Anonymous No.10626104]

>>10622543
>reddit man and reddit frog
Why would you post this?

[Anonymous No.10626117]

>>10626104
Reddit sponsors my posts, asshole. I have a job and I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.10626810]

>>10625981
>It was just a few years ago that they were actively trying to remake XI
that was like 5+ years ago and they weren't going to remake it, they licensed it out to some shitty chinese company to make a mobile gacha shit game that became vaporware

[Anonymous No.10626838]

It's been years so my memory is hazy, but I faintly remember reading that FF6 gba has a relic for Shadow that lets him throw 2x. But, I looked it up and can't find anything about it. But it was definitely from a Final Fantasy Advance game. Am I tripping or does this exist?

[Anonymous No.10626848]

Really if you think about it the espers got what they deseved.

[Anonymous No.10626856]

I know that 128 is the max stat, but realistically and practically how much magic/strength is good enough to get stable 9999 damage with ultima, Locke, Gau, Kazekiri, etc?

[Anonymous No.10626865]

IX is the Hipster answer
IV is the real answer
V is a respectable answer

[Anonymous No.10626867]

FF12

/thread

[Anonymous No.10626870]

Should I make Celes focus on mag or str?

[Anonymous No.10626882]

>>10626870
magic. the optimal way to play is give everyone an economizer and spam quick/ultima.

[Anonymous No.10626897]

>>10626870
she's a girl character so obviously she should be a healer

[Anonymous No.10626927]

>>10621282
I have no idea how I spoiled myself on cid in 1995 but I somehow did.

[Anonymous No.10626929]

>>10626856
Do yourself a favor and just play no espers with terra and celes being your only casters

[Anonymous No.10626935]

>>10626929
Why in the world would I do that?

[Anonymous No.10626941]

>>10622439
FFX is great though. Sure it's more linear, but linear doesn't necessarily mean bad

[Anonymous No.10626950]

>>10626018
>The ensemble cast let you use your favorite characters
FF6 has none of my favorite characters
They're all bad except maybe Celes and Cyan

[Anonymous No.10626970]

>>10625528
You'll be waiting forever, it's been years and nothing. There is a regularly updated private beta branch on Steam, but no news from Squenix on it.

[Anonymous No.10627059]

>>10626970
Actually, PR only came out last year for consoles, so it hasn't been a year yet.

[Anonymous No.10627175]

>>10626935
No switch-espers-when-levelling autism, no being annoyed when the game auto levels characters, etc. And each character relying just on their gimmick prevents all the characters from converging on the one obvious omnimage build and makes the teams you'll use in the final dungeon a little more fun to configure
There is one slight issue which is that the tower of magi becomes a huge pain but just let one person learn life 2 (or life 3, I can't remember what the reraise spell is called)

[Anonymous No.10627187]

>>10626097
Considering 6 the best is not at all hipster or contrarian. It’s normal for a huge group of people who played it at a particular time.
Considering II (for Famicom) or
VIII best would be hipster and contrarian.
The correct answer is X-2.

[Anonymous No.10627193]

>>10627175
Oh, I see what you mean. That's kinda like how I like to play Chrono Trigger these days: no tabs, no NG+.

[Anonymous No.10627216]

>>10627193
I'd really never replay it any other way. I wish more jrpgs gave you a clean way to cut yourself off from overpowering autism treadmills