/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10613869]

I miss big utopian sci-fi levels

[Anonymous No.10613878]

Lower left what game?

[Anonymous No.10613885]

>>10613878
That's the background.

[Anonymous No.10613886]

>>10613878
Top left is Xenosaga 3
top right is Manaan
middle left is Custom Robo Battle Revolution
middle right is Judge Dredd vs Death
bottom right is Freelancer

[Anonymous No.10616075]

>>10613869
yea same.

[Anonymous No.10616338]

>>10613885
lost

[Anonymous No.10616513]

>>10613869
They always had the best soundtrack too.

[Anonymous No.10616583]

i hate xenosaga

[Anonymous No.10616592]

>>10613869
Why did this stuff disappear completely? It's like devs suddenly wanted everything to be depressing instead of making us dream about a better future. Same shit happened with Star Trek

[Anonymous No.10616602]

>>10616592
Back then people were hopeful about the future.

[Anonymous No.10616604]

>>10616592
>disappear completely
not sure I get you. you can see those things almost always in futuristic sci-fi games. probably much less impactful because of the scope and the current technology.

[Anonymous No.10616692]

>>10616513
For sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-Ave4LDSM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaRhRXUoPdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNe4XHbkEZA

>>10616583
why

[Anonymous No.10616698]

>>10616592
Everything got edgier in the 00s.

[Anonymous No.10616704]

>>10616592
9/11 happened

[Anonymous No.10616708]

>>10616592
>Why did this stuff disappear completely?
It was probably when Space synth music became niche and garbage like Dubstep took over.

[Anonymous No.10616710]

>>10616708
that was almost at the end of the decade

[Anonymous No.10616732]

>>10613869
>Dredd vs Death
man that game was fucking weird

[Anonymous No.10616735]

>>10616732
How so? It's based on a sci-fi comic

[Anonymous No.10616737]

>>10616735
what does that have to do with it being weird or not? have you even played it? you prowl around a dark megacity arresting tweakers and wheelchair-bound 800lb obese people while creepy ambient music plays. it's a weird game.

[Anonymous No.10616741]

>>10616592
Because we live in a dystopia without the dignity of good aesthetics to back it up.

[Anonymous No.10616742]

>>10616737
How is that weird for the subject matter though?

[Anonymous No.10616750]

>>10616742
i think you're retarded bro.
>inb4 no u
reevaluate.

[Anonymous No.10617141]

>>10616592
The people who made those places got replaced by newcomers who only care about themselves, their social media credit score, have been spoiled rotten from an overly coddling environment, and think work is about fooling around for most of the day and then typing at a desk for an hour and a half. Most importantly though, these newcomers do not share the same kind of vision as the previous generation nor do they view fiction like this as something that can be enjoyed by others. They call themselves creatives, when the reality is that they can only destroy what others have already made.

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[Anonymous No.10617192]

>>10616750
You're deliberately not making sense but >>10616737 sounds like what you'd expect for a Judge Dredd game, it sounds stranger you don't seem to understand this.

[Anonymous No.10617317]

>>10616592
The modern world is so shitty that people can't even hope for a cool future anymore, it just reminds us of what we'll never have.

[Anonymous No.10617339]

>>10617192
>this is fine because something something muh comic book
okay retard

[Anonymous No.10617354]

>>10613869
Starfield literally just came out.

[Anonymous No.10617363]

>>10617354
>Utopian
>whites and asians are 10% of the populace

[Anonymous No.10617372]

>>10617363
kek

[Anonymous No.10617376]

>>10613886
>Top left is Xenosaga 3
Xenosaga 2, actually.

[Anonymous No.10617379]

>>10617339
>I have never seen a movie before oh scary!

[Anonymous No.10617476]

>>10616708
Are you from the Netherlands or Germany? Space Synth was never even a thing in the USA.

[Anonymous No.10617480]

>>10616592
9/11, war on terror, economic crisis, politics became a war for the masses

[Anonymous No.10617508]

>>10613878
Hyperborean: The Last Epoch

[Anonymous No.10618325]

>>10613869
Because OP is cool, I shall now fill his thread with things from Xeno series...and more after dinner from birthday.

[Anonymous No.10618379]

not technically a big sci-fi utopian level but "internet city" in TRON 2.0 kinda-sorta fits.

[Anonymous No.10618753]

>>10618325

[Anonymous No.10618814]

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[Anonymous No.10618875]

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[Anonymous No.10618890]

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[Anonymous No.10618898]

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[Anonymous No.10618927]

>>10616692
a shit

[Anonymous No.10618937]

>>10616592
We came to the realization, picrel is going to be impossible w/o the help of either AI (now looking to mabe be possible) or outside sources. In short, no, we are not getting the crystal spires an togas of the old classic science fiction aspect, even the used future aspect that has been popular the last 50 years. If you really look at it from a resource perspective, its pretty wasteful. In short, we are never getting this...

[Anonymous No.10618946]

>>10618937
but at most, we will probably be getting this. The rich living in fortress-esq cities whilst the "ramble" live in the remains of squaller.

[Anonymous No.10618961]

>>10618898

[Anonymous No.10619001]

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[Anonymous No.10619012]

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[Anonymous No.10619040]

>>10619012

[Anonymous No.10619049]

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[Anonymous No.10619070]

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[Anonymous No.10619307]

>>10616592
Yeah, you right

[Anonymous No.10620898]

lineart

[Anonymous No.10620941]

Everything is so fucking shitty I don’t think the unplugging myself from it is working anymore. Just walking outside i see it right in front of me. Just getting through the day is hard now.

[Anonymous No.10620995]

>>10620898
>>10620941
Hope...ands if not anon.

[Anonymous No.10621000]

>>10620995
...it will all be this soon.

[Anonymous No.10621006]

>>10616704
>>10616708
>>10616741
>>10617141
>>10617317
>>10617480
>>10618937
>>10619307
After the first 3 posts there was no need to respond. Read the thread instead of regurgitating that same answer, dumb redditors.

[Anonymous No.10621026]

>>10620941
Can't you enjoy the things you always enjoyed? Despite everything these days it's what mostly keeps me going

[Anonymous No.10621040]

>>10621006
Fuck off, post images of the future we are not getting you fucking ponce.

[Anonymous No.10621121]

[Anonymous No.10621162]

>>10621121

[Anonymous No.10621195]

>>10617141
>these newcomers do not share the same kind of vision as the previous generation nor do they view fiction like this as something that can be enjoyed by others
They're right. Utopistic settings are ridiculous and outdated nowadays. Apocalyptic ones make more sense and resonate with modern sensibilities more.

[Anonymous No.10621213]

>>10621195
So, not this...

[Anonymous No.10621217]

>>10621213
but this?

[Anonymous No.10621245]

>>10621217

[Anonymous No.10621247]

>>10621245

[Anonymous No.10621258]

>>10621195
>Apocalyptic ones make more sense and resonate with modern sensibilities more
modern sensibilities are retarded and doomsayers should die

[Anonymous No.10621273]

>>10616592
The dream of Utopia died forever ago and looking at current events, there's only more nails in the coffin. Everyone needs mountains of drugs just to not want to kill themselves each day, there's a retarded conflict happening each fucking second, and even those in power want you to forget idealism.

[Anonymous No.10621278]

>>10621258
>>10621273
They are waiting for about 90% or more of us to die. Then they will build their "utopia". And of what's left? A true "they above, we below"

[Anonymous No.10621572]

>>10621258
>>10621273
You know what, fuck it, post the REAL futures. Fuck the happy shinny future, give us the grit of hopelessness.

[Anonymous No.10622378]

>>10621273
>Everyone needs mountains of drugs just to not want to kill themselves each day, there's a retarded conflict happening each fucking second, and even those in power want you to forget idealism
Not everyone is American you know

[Anonymous No.10622473]

>>10622378
But they want to be.

[Anonymous No.10622545]

>>10621273
>>10621278
Utopian thinking itself is an open gateway to evil acts. When you believe that your ideology can lead to a society that is infinitely good, then any atrocity in the name of obtaining perfection not only becomes morally permissible, but obligatory.

[Anonymous No.10622916]

>>10622473
If I'd want to, I would want to be a HAPPY american

[Anonymous No.10622965]

>>10622545
This is why sci fi is a WARNING, not a wonder like fantasy.

[Anonymous No.10622979]

>>10616592
It's the fault of defeatist and demoralized, low IQ shitbags who think life can only get worse instead of better. They lack the creativity and optimism to imagine a world where everything works and the only conflicts come from outside humanity anymore, and instead just want to rip off real world problems for their settings because they are incapable of coming up with anything on their own.

You notice this a lot any time anyone who makes current star trek opens their fucking mouth. The people writing those shows now are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.10623001]

>>10622965
>>10622545
>yes goy, don't ever try to work to a better future, or you might do something very bad to get there

[Anonymous No.10623178]

You guys are all a bunch of illiterate angsty fags except for the dude posting Xeno pics.
Just a friendly reminder to grow a pair.

[Anonymous No.10623264]

>>10623001
Oy! Its the Goy!
>>10623178
Thank you, more coming if the thread is still up

[Anonymous No.10623919]

[Anonymous No.10623971]

>>10623919
That aint Xenosaga though

[Anonymous No.10623995]

>>10623971
No, its worse, its the 3rd (4th, 5th?) reboot Takahashi did with his opus, Project Noah. Notice how Landbank shows up in 'Saga though. >>10619040
Anyway, more of the Xenoverse.

[Anonymous No.10624052]

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[Anonymous No.10624063]

>>10613886
based

[Anonymous No.10624136]

When I think of big utopian cities, and I have to limit myself to retro, I think of Grand Metropolis from Sanic Heroes. Even today I'm like "holy shit this is what society will look like in 2010"
Killer theme too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncxqww4VyhY

[Anonymous No.10624236]

>>10624136
>retro
what do you mean by that anon? This retro futurism?

[Anonymous No.10624241]

>>10624236
this?

[Anonymous No.10624251]

>>10624241
maybe this?

[Anonymous No.10624382]

>>10613869
I love Xenosaga.

[Anonymous No.10624396]

>>10613869
>Customers no longer want monumental games!

[Anonymous No.10624401]

>>10616592
Because they WANT you to be depressed instead of optimistic

[Anonymous No.10624404]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNG6iafLxVE

[Anonymous No.10624425]

>>10624382
Anon, that's Cloud Atlas, specifically, Seoul 2245, iirc.

[Anonymous No.10624557]

>>10616592
>>10613869
It became reality.

[Anonymous No.10624662]

>>10624557
it could sorta

[Anonymous No.10626032]

[Anonymous No.10626035]

[Anonymous No.10626040]

[Anonymous No.10626417]

>>10626032
>>10626035
>>10626040
Is this Ace Combat 3?

[Anonymous No.10626426]

>>10624401
The apocalypse is catharsis, not depression.

[Anonymous No.10626465]

>>10626426
From this future, yes. This future is just more of the same, better organized.

[Anonymous No.10626535]

It's easy to doompost about this stuff, but I think there is a contributing factor as to why we don't see as much of this kind of thing these days, that people tend to overlook.

SImple creative exhaustion. We had so many fantastic examples of this kind of thing in games in the 90's and 00's, but every great example is something future artists will struggle to top. A practical truth: there *is* a competitive element to human creativity.

I think the last really incredible examples of utopian cities I can remember came in Final Fantasy XIII and its sequels. The art in those games is incredible, but even by that point I think the evidence of creative exhaustion was there: in the Final Fantasy series and in culture at large.

...But, a downswing in creativity like this is a time when artists introspect and figure out what to create next.

Something to consider too, as games continue to progress and evolve, the settings seem to be selected for facilitating gameplay. Minecraft, Fortnite, Palworld: all recent examples ... their worlds facilitate their creative gameplay: empty wildernesses full of resources to allow players to build their own structures.
This isn't necessarily representative of "a loss of collective optimism" or somesuch, it could just as well be that these are the settings which facilitate the gameplay people currently find most interesting.

Idk. Have faith or something.

[Anonymous No.10626623]

>>10626535
Like to look at it from the CBS point of view.

[Anonymous No.10626703]

>>10626623
?

[Anonymous No.10626760]

sometimes I get screenshots of Xenosaga 2 and 3 confused with Phantasy Star Universe

[Anonymous No.10626767]

>>10618946
that's basically Dubai

[Anonymous No.10626771]

>>10626760
>>10618360

[Anonymous No.10626789]

>>10626767
The wall included?

[Anonymous No.10626805]

>>10613869
I mean, I don't know if I'd call a game based on Judge Dredd "utopian"

[Anonymous No.10626993]

>>10626805
Took a while for someone to notice, that said, it looked nice enough too add anyway

[Anonymous No.10627027]

>>10626535
Sounds like something nudevs would barf on twitter as an excuse for their subpar ESG trash slopped out over 15 hour work from home weeks while reminding you expectations of any sort are violence

[Anonymous No.10627050]

The WipEout franchise is the only one I know of that stands on the fine line between utopic and dystopic. You can see the disparities in every racetrack throughout the games - one track could be a clean, sun-baked suburbian landscape or a meteorological facility full of lights and reinforced pro-glass, and the next thing you know you're racing on a different track, or what's left of it, in an abandoned metropolis that's been evacuated during a terrible earthquake that quite literally destroyed the racetrack itself into pieces or a grimy, plague-stricken industrial area devoid of any civilians where the lights are on but nobody's home. All of this is expanded upon in the massive amounts of lore this franchise has, which few people know about since none of it is in the games themselves.

[Anonymous No.10627281]

>>10626703
Buck Rogers, Star trek, etc. The short is this. Humanity needs to blow its collective brains out for us to realize that putting all our eggs in one basket is a bad idea. Granted, the above two examples have aliens come and help wipe our asses and get us on the bigger stage, but, yeah, that how we get to utopia, by burning this age off first.
>>10626760
Same background artist iirc.

[Anonymous No.10627531]

>>10626032
>>10626035
>>10626040
>>10626417
Yes, it is Based Combat 3. The devs did a lot of research into 70s futuristic architecture for that utopian feel.

[Anonymous No.10627550]

>>10627531

[Anonymous No.10627596]

>>10616592
Which way, gamer-man?

[Anonymous No.10627665]

>>10627596
Tanks, twisted metal, broken concrete, shitloads of dust.

[Anonymous No.10627683]

>>10617354
When you actually attempt to make it so you can go anywhere in a big sci-fi city you end up ruining the illusion because it is never as amazing in practice. You still can't go in most of the buildings and it ends up being a big empty nothing. Having a non-open world game that stimulates your imagination is much better. This is just one of the many problems with modern games.

[Anonymous No.10628141]

>>10624557
>China
>Utopia