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10611667 No.10611667 [Reply] [Original]

I don't know man, I feel like crt-consumer looks exactly like that retrotink on my 4k display...

>> No.10611694

HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THE ACCURACY

TAKE MY $750

>> No.10611720

>>10611667
so it's doing a good job then? CRT-Consumer is a good shader

>> No.10611724

>>10611667
tink is darker and blurrier

>> No.10611725

>>10611720
Yeah but my point is i dont have to pay for crt-consumer. This is 750$

>> No.10611731

>>10611667
looks like right image has vertical lines thru the whole image, nice $750 piece of shit

>> No.10611740

>>10611667
>I feel
The only thing you should be feeling is embarrassed

>> No.10611749

>>10611724
You mean emulation is brighter and sharper

>> No.10611754

>>10611749
1) MISTER ISN'T EMULATION
2) TINK IS "EMULATING" A CRT
3) FUCK YOU

>> No.10611803

>>10611754
Mister is hardware emulation. It has the same overly sharp image output as software emulation when compared to true analog video. You probably watch degrained movies too

>> No.10611826

>>10611754
Cringe

>> No.10611835

Ok now solve the input lag

>> No.10611858

>>10611754
>1) MISTER ISN'T EMULATION
wrong

>> No.10611872

>>10611725
You do have to pay for the MISTer.

>> No.10611878
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>>10611754
>2) TINK IS "EMULATING" A CRT

>> No.10611893

>>10611754
>MISTER ISN'T EMULATION
This is a cope used by people who bought into FPGA gaming solely based on surrounding hype and started to regret their purchase later. Those who love and use their MiSTers regularly know that it is emulation and see nothing wrong with that.

>> No.10611915

>>10611872
The mister isnt even a part of the conversation here, it was only used in the photo to show raw pixels vs the retrotink 4k. I like how this picture can be taken out of context if shown to an uninformed buyer to into making them think the mister can only output an image like it does in the picture vs the retrotink 4k set up to look as good as it possibly can. great marketing guys, really.

>> No.10611930

>>10611893
I mean, yeah, but it's also taken straight from analogue's marketing.

>> No.10612175

>>10611667
The retroink has a filter? Didn't know that. Still don't wanna pay $750 for that

>> No.10612209
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>>10611667
>Vertical scanlines

>> No.10613751

>>10611667
Now show the actual CRT shader

>> No.10613753

>sour grapes thread
There sure are a lot of these on /vr/ huh

>> No.10613764

I've been reading this board stupidly often for the past couple of years and I still don't know what MiSTer and RetroTINK even are. I had to look up their annoying capitalization schemes just now. I also have never seen a MetalJesus video or encountered an insufferable Earthbound fan. You guys don't have to wallow in all this weird stuff you know, these things we talk about are actually games and you can in fact play them

>> No.10613773

>>10613764
You’re on a retro video game enthusiast board anon
You would probably learn about these things through osmosis here

>> No.10613782

>>10611667
It's snake oil. Nobody can tell the difference between the game running on FPGA or bsnes

>> No.10613819

>>10611667
I recently picked up a CRT again, which is the first time I've owned one in ~17 years. What it's made clear to me is that all these filters and other coping mechanisms are shit. They're an extremely poor imitation of the real thing. I only have some crappy consumer-grade Toshiba CRT, yet stuff looks amazing on it. The N64 in particular blew my mind a little. I'd forgotten just how good N64 games can look on a real CRT, whereas they look like hot dog shit via emulation no matter how many filters you slap on top.

>> No.10613824

>>10613782
I think you’re in the wrong thread anon

>> No.10613841

>>10613824
No, OP's image mentions using a retrotink with a mister, which are both snake oil when much cheaper (or free if you own a computer) alternatives exist

>> No.10613859

>>10613841
I really think you need some time off this site anon

>> No.10613920

>>10613819
filters cant increase motion clarity

>> No.10614165

>>10611667
Just send SNES9x output directly to your LCD if you like chunky pixels like that

>> No.10614180

>>10613782
>>10613841
And have you, personally, tried both side by side?

>> No.10614556

>>10614180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmNovlUUepI
Go to the 9:30 mark

>> No.10614609

>>10614556
Run ahead is a hack for casuals.

>> No.10614623

>>10613782
>Nobody can tell the difference between the game running on FPGA or bsnes
The MDfourier tuned low pass filter in the MiSter core? No input or audio lag? Perfect video and audio synchronisation at the original refresh rate? Speak for yourself, the informed can easily tell the difference.

>> No.10614734

>>10614623
Lol ok m9
If you’re still getting sync issues in emulators, you’re doing something very wrong

>> No.10614764

>>10614734
bsnes syncs to either video or audio but not both. The only way to fix it is by using dynamic rate control, which is inaccurate. Even then you will still have around 4 frames of audio latency, absolute garbage.

>> No.10614774

>>10614764
Lol ok m8
You’re doing it wrong

>> No.10614780

>>10614774
Software emulation does it wrong.

>> No.10614794

>>10611725
What am I not understanding here?
I paid 40 bucks for a pristine barely used Wii with controllers and Animal Crossing game inside.
I paid 8 bucks for Composite cables.
I paid 30 bucks for a 27´´ TruFlat CRT
So I paid 10 times less for the real thing.

What am I missing here? Why do I feel ZERO FOMO?

Why do you pay so much to feel like you are poor like me?

>> No.10614815

>>10614623
>the informed can easily tell the difference.
Maybe you can tell the difference after being heavily trained on a game by game basis but saying easily? Doubt it.
I'd bet money you'd fail a blind test. You're a moron.

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>>10614794
>I paid 8 bucks for Composite cables.
I meant Component cables, sorry.

Also forgot to mention, modding the Wii is an absolute pleasure, and the custom software for it is still being developed TODAY.

WiiFlow Lite (WFL) + Rhapsodii Shima SD (released in December 2023) + CRT = HEAVEN

I cannot believe how good this is, the real experience, in real hardware, plus emulation, including up to PSX (almost flawless now), dayuummm... let alone VirtualConsole ports with 240p mode enabled.

>> No.10614879

>>10614815
I mentioned the easily heard and felt differences, you’re the moron.

>> No.10614883

>>10614825
the wii is based
but controller support sucked balls years ago when it was all i had
bluetooth 1.0 is NOT good anon
for jrpg or faggy games its prob serviceable
for shmups\platformers it is NOT fun anon
i refuse to give away or sell my wii tho

>> No.10614889

>>10614815
>pretending to play is the same thing as real hardware!!!
every fucking thread this moronic take gets posted


POST PROOF THEN FAGGOT
oh right, you cant because you are buried under a shitty OS and faggy menus instead of simply powering on and playing (which requires literally 2 seconds)


FUCK EMU FAGS

>> No.10614907

>>10614879
Kek

>> No.10614975
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>>10614883
I am sorry for your experience, m8.
You should have more fun, which is possible.

I do play SHMUPs using the wired GameCube controller. Basically I play everything with wired GameCube controller, but sometimes use the ProController through the wireless WiiMote.

The GameCube controller is really nice and ergonomic as well.

>> No.10616393

I already beat it this year so I don't care

>> No.10616447

Neither look as good as my original hardware and Trinitron consumer type through composite (as devs intended).

>> No.10616759

>>10614623
>The MDfourier tuned low pass filter in the MiSter core?
That's cool but do you need FPGA for an audio filter?

>> No.10616897

>>10616759
It’s just one example of an improvement made by FPGA devs that years later has still not been implemented in software. Yes, you could run that filter in software, but MiSTer is the only thing you can buy that actually uses it.

>> No.10616953

>>10611754
I have original consoles, so you can fuck off

>> No.10616957

>>10614794
Who sold you that Wii? It was after that you started posting here. That guy is a terrorist.

>> No.10616962

>>10614556
You didn't answer my question. Have you personally tried it side by side?