/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10604318]

are there any PS1 games that solely used vertex coloring to texture their environments? interested in what it would look like from capable artists
or it could just be enemies like in FF7

[Anonymous No.10604320]

the same scene with the texture applied

[Anonymous No.10604321]

Spyro famously does it with the skyboxes, but the environment still uses textures in conjunction with the vertex shading

[Anonymous No.10604323]

metal gear solid vr missions?

[Anonymous No.10604334]

>>10604323
yeah that's a good example. shame it's just boxes
here are some FF7 enemies painted entirely by vertex colors, with the rare exception

[Anonymous No.10604342]

>>10604334
for anyone unfamiliar with vertex coloring, this is how it works. the colors are dependent upon the faces of the mesh itself; more faces, more places to put color

[Anonymous No.10604354]

a non-retro game with only vertex coloring just to give an idea of what I'm looking for, but PS1 / N64 edition

[Anonymous No.10604367]

Aren't all the Tobal 2 characters like this?

[Anonymous No.10604384]

>>10604367
seems like most of them are yeah, thanks. this game looks like a trip

[Anonymous No.10604390]

>>10604318
Crash Bandicoot used a whole lot of vertex/giroud shading instead of textures which allowed it to be one of the best looking/ least texture warping games on PS1. They did texture things though it wasn't entirely shaded but the Crash model itself is so are many scenery elements and most enemies.

[Anonymous No.10604456]

>>10604390
forgot about this orange idiot

[Anonymous No.10604650]

>>10604334
>>10604334
This is actually really cool and good it definitely has its own feel. Jenova birth is also vertex painted

[Anonymous No.10604656]

>>10604650
here's the whole bestiary in all their vertexy goodness (file is too big to post)
the tri count is fucking insane

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/adb11d09-b920-4067-9dc7-4e7cd6351161/df71utx-30c6a2f0-0b38-42c0-ac5c-b13f682e6e24.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2FkYjExZDA5LWI5MjAtNDA2Ny05ZGM3LTRlN2NkNjM1MTE2MVwvZGY3MXV0eC0zMGM2YTJmMC0wYjM4LTQyYzAtYWM1Yy1iMTNmNjgyZTZlMjQucG5nIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.mMT2iHpiAmvdalgyKZPSJ4Zk26JpXF3OOrTs7XmttHQ

[Anonymous No.10604661]

>>10604656
Does blender 2.79 hsve the ability to edit PS1 ff7 models?

[Anonymous No.10604667]

>>10604661
no idea, that pic isn't mine. I managed to open them in 4.0, downloaded the models from here
tried opening them with blender as an fbx and obj but it wasn't working so I opened them using noesis and it worked in there. in noesis you can export to fbx and it works perfectly in blender after that

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1K2_JY-PDJcKgEMd3qLc_jWDzL6ovvgFm

[Anonymous No.10604687]

>>10604321
Spyro environments turn vertex color only as LoD though.
There's also the Homeworld skyboxes, same technique.

[Anonymous No.10604695]

>>10604318
Spyro for more distant geometry I guess.
Also bubsy 3D, but that game is embarrassing

[Anonymous No.10606412]

bump just in-case there's a cool vertex game I'm missing

[Anonymous No.10606421]

>>10604667
They did such a fantastic job vertex painting the enemies and world and chibis. I'm more interested in getting them back into a format readable by ff7, I know there are a few models viewers for psx but I don't think anybody ever made any import/export plugin for blender.

[Anonymous No.10606921]

>>10604695
bubsy is cool :(

[Anonymous No.10606935]

>>10604318
I didn't fully understand this technique, but now that I'm aware of it and its use in
>>10604321
>>10604334
>>10604456
>>10604695
I now realize it's a favorite technique of mine. Very cool.

[Anonymous No.10606958]

>>10604318
>>10604384
>>10604456
>>10604650
>>10604695
I feel like there's so much room for applying this technique to modern games. It'd be a great way for a game to imitate the spirit of the PS1 without being limited to PS1 technology. So you could still have a lot more polygons but no textures whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.10607119]

>>10606958
A major issue with using vertex colors is that on most game engines they're not supported by default. Devs are lazy and writing shaders is usually reserved for the smarter devs which may not be available.

[Anonymous No.10607195]

>>10607119
>one of the most primitive and old technologies
>not widely supported
>would probably take a codemonkey at Unreal or Unity a day or two to implement
all that shit and they still find the time to support 16k HDRi gaytraced whatever the fuck

[Anonymous No.10608151]

>>10604656

[Anonymous No.10608529]

>>10608151
soulful

[Anonymous No.10608867]

Soul Reaver on PSX uses vertexes and textures to cheat some of its lighting effects.

[Anonymous No.10609445]

>>10608151
OP here, made my own little model inspired by the FF7 enemies. gonna keep this up, love the way it looks

[Anonymous No.10610162]

>>10604334
I forgot how fucking watchy final fantasy vii enemies were

[Anonymous No.10610182]

baked-in vertex lighting in EQ for static light sources

[Anonymous No.10610612]

>>10608867
Which ones?

[Anonymous No.10610627]

>>10608867
you described every 3d game prior to like 2010

[Anonymous No.10610629]

with enough vertices you don't even need texture mapping