/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10603994]

What does /vr/ think of the upcoming remastered Tomb Raider trilogy?

[Anonymous No.10604015]

>>10603994
>left: boob
>right: booba

[Anonymous No.10604029]

>>10603994
The face texture is extremely stiff, the trailer also showed that they have not finished animated textures like waterfalls.
Less than one month left and they haven't showed any new trailers or info, which is a big redflag.

[Anonymous No.10604031]

I cannot wait for the le heckin souly soulful soibois to cry about it being completely ruined because a few textures have been improved

[Anonymous No.10604043]

same shit gameplay

[Anonymous No.10604046]

Didn't they release one of those already? What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.10604059]

Original: creepy and scary

[Anonymous No.10604060]

Demake: lol

[Anonymous No.10604089]

>>10603994
could be good, could be bad, probably bad though

[Anonymous No.10604090]

>>10603994
Fuck that game and it's tank controls. Tried going back to reply the first one recently, got like 3 levels in to the level where there's a fast flowing stream you have to make several jumps over and anytime you miss you fall into the stream, get washed out of a waterfall and have to repeat the same 5 minutes of infuriating jumps all over again. Not touching this archaic bullshit again.

[Anonymous No.10604091]

>>10603994
Im curious, been a long time since i played tomb raider. Just gonna wait till i read a few reviews.

[Anonymous No.10604107]

>>10604090
>Press Triangle to holster your guns
>Hold R1 and walk to the edge of the platform
>Release R1
>Tap down on the d-pad to make a short step backwards
>Move forwards and press Square
>Hold Cross while you're in the air so Lara craps the edge of the platform and pulls up
Do this for every single jump in the game. It's not that hard. Just very tedious.
You didn't even get to the actually bad parts of the game. The combat against humans who all use hit-scanning guns.

[Anonymous No.10604121]

>>10604060
he's vegan

[Anonymous No.10604138]

>>10604107
thanks, tbf I did know about this technique but sometimes you get impatient and just run and go for it and the n the stupid bitch doesn't jump at the edge of the platform. It just takes so so long doing every little thing that after around 5 hours of gametime I got fed up and had an existential crisis wondering why I was wasting my evening on this lol.

[Anonymous No.10604160]

TR3's shit level designs (esp london levels) will still be shit

[Anonymous No.10604345]

>>10603994
Doesn't look like they're using the actual PS1 model for Laura in the left picture.

[Anonymous No.10604360]

>>10604090
This

TR: Anniversary is the perfect TR. Just take that engine and put TR 2 and 3 in there. Super easy.

[Anonymous No.10604421]

>>10603994
I hope its good and sells good, then maybe they'll drop the realistic Lara and go back to this style.

[Anonymous No.10604452]

>>10604360
>TR: Anniversary is the perfect TR.
lmao that game is just hallway after hallway then a big room that you have to explore in a very specific order

[Anonymous No.10604505]

>>10604059
That's not even the original, that's the TR2 version.

[Anonymous No.10604520]

>>10603994
Wasn't the original trilogy already redone during the PS2 era?

[Anonymous No.10604524]

>>10604520
Just the first game.

[Anonymous No.10604534]

>>10604060
>not inside the cave
SOULLESS

[Anonymous No.10604793]

Feels bad. Resident Evil was closed off to zoomers until they remade a bunch of them, now we have to put up with them. Same thing will happen here

[Anonymous No.10604884]

>>10604060
Better than Anniversary

[Anonymous No.10604886]

>>10604059
>creepy and scary
it looks like a paper craft project lmfao stop slurping shit because of your nostalgia goggles.

[Anonymous No.10604887]

>>10604345
Who the fuck is Laura?

[Anonymous No.10604914]

>>10603994
>Breasts bigger
That's all a remaster needs to do, and they did it. Well done.

[Anonymous No.10604937]

>>10603994
unironically looks like it was outsourced to indians like that cancelled PoP remake, don't know why some people are excited for this shit
also I dont think that model on the left is the TR1 model

[Anonymous No.10604970]

>>10604937
ok now what does it ironically look like Einstein

[Anonymous No.10604990]

>>10604107
>>10604138
>Lara literally teaches you this in her home training level...
Zoomers, you guys are the worst gamers, I swear. It must be the ADHD in the water.

[Anonymous No.10605001]

>>10603994
>Bigger boobs
That was unexpected.

[Anonymous No.10605004]

>>10604534
It was never inside the a cave. Unless you mean TR2

[Anonymous No.10605018]

>>10604937
>unironically looks like it was outsourced to indians
elaborate

[Anonymous No.10605028]

>>10604520
>>10604524
Retards. The remake was on ps3

[Anonymous No.10605063]

not /vr/. tomb raider originally released in 2013

[Anonymous No.10605103]

>>10605028
You're thinking of the HD collection which wasn't the original games

[Anonymous No.10605763]

>>10604886
Uh oh we got mr tough guy over here bet he watched Serbian Film with lights on

[Anonymous No.10605913]

>>10604534
Apparently it was never inside the game just didn't have a skybox. I know I thought you were underground the whole time myself.

[Anonymous No.10605986]

>caring about any of these if you could play TR4 custom levels

[Anonymous No.10606004]

>>10605004
You hide in the cave and shoot him when he passes.

[Anonymous No.10606005]

>>10604886
And it still looks better you fucking tranny.

[Anonymous No.10606092]

>>10605001
They made the tits look like they always did in old promo material.

[Anonymous No.10606442]

>>10603994
Giga slop and an another lmao reeeeemake lololol. The original looks better UNIRONICALLY.
JUST!

[Anonymous No.10606449]

>>10604059
SOVL

[Anonymous No.10606456]

>>10604060
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS LOOKS SO BAD ROFLMAO

[Anonymous No.10606465]

>>10605018
bob vagana

[Anonymous No.10606531]

>>10603994
I'll reserve judgement until it comes out. Some of the screenshots look real janky. Like one of those crappy "HD texture" packs so many games get that just look off. High-res textures on the blocks in TR might just not work. I do appreciate how Lara actually looks like Lara instead of someone else, until every other game in the series since Legend.
I look forward to the flood of low IQ posters screaming about the controls. There's nothing like seeing another impatient fool complaining about the controls before immediately outing himself as an impatient fool. I suspect the new control scheme will not help anyone in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.10606546]

>>10604060
Honestly looks kinda like DC tomb raider last revelations.

[Anonymous No.10606629]

>>10604060
he cute

[Anonymous No.10606909]

>>10603994
I hope the remastered death animations are good.

[Anonymous No.10606927]

>>10603994
I think I want 4 and 5 while we're at it remastered and since it's 99% not going to happen I hate it.

[Anonymous No.10606929]

>>10606531
>I look forward to the flood of low IQ posters screaming about the controls.
Well you're going to be disappointed then.

[Anonymous No.10606974]

>>10603994
tits

[Anonymous No.10607000]

>>10606929
controls are part of the experience but I think the much bigger thing is the level design, every time there's a tomb raider thread there's always some new blood realizing how incredible the levels are in this game. Usually once they get over the controls.

[Anonymous No.10607904]

>>10603994
If someone has fun with it, good for them. I ain't buying it that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.10608030]

How many here know about the 3148 TR4 custom levels that were made by fans and which are available for free?
https://trcustoms.org/

[Anonymous No.10608184]

>>10606927
It will happen
Source: trust me

[Anonymous No.10608185]

>>10604031
>a few textures have been improved

[Anonymous No.10608187]

>>10604060

[Anonymous No.10608189]

>>10608185
MORPHEUS IS FIGHTING MORPHEUS

[Anonymous No.10608237]

>>10604090
The remaster adds non-tank controls. Also there's a toggle for graphics if you prefer the original style.

[Anonymous No.10608246]

>>10603994
Just waiting to find out what they've censored.

[Anonymous No.10608247]

>>10606531
>>10606929
It's more likely that people will screech about Lara's killing spree against animals rather than the controls, since it's now more controversial to kill heckin' pupperinos than humans in video games. Worse, I can see them adding one of those "This game has themes that are not politically correct, pls understand" at the start of the game.

[Anonymous No.10608252]

>>10603994
the models are too high poly

[Anonymous No.10609431]

>>10604360
you should check out FF13 you'd love it!
>>10604090
>>10604138
holy fucking filtered. maybe do the tutorial if you're that much of a shitter

[Anonymous No.10609450]

>>10604090
Skill issue. You can make those jumps without stopping if you know what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.10609464]

>>10604090
Save the game on every step.

[Anonymous No.10609514]

>>10605004
>>10605913
i know that, but the headcanon of a biome developing deep inside a cave allowing prehistoric life to exist ala Journey to the Center of the Earth is far more charming than just slapping a T-Rex in a random jungle

[Anonymous No.10609529]

So I might as well ask this here.
I'm trying to play the TR Legend trilogy and despite the wonky controls on windows version (maybe its only in the main menu) it plays fine, but if i click in the game i cant alt tab whatsoever. im stuck in the game. tried everything

I tried it on rpcs3 and it just crashes on startup

I can play it on pcsx2, but i can only play native or else ghosting and other shit happens
Am i just stuck with ps2?

[Anonymous No.10609704]

>>10608247
In an interview with the devs they said that the reason she kills animals was because they wanted to avoid controversy with murdering humans and it was unfortunate that it was pointed out to them later that all the animals she kills are on the endangered list. There was always people complaining and devs trying to avoid "problematic" content, all that's changed is what they care about.

[Anonymous No.10609768]

>>10604060
You can switch between the new graphics and the old graphics. Literally what are you complaining about you relentless faggot?

[Anonymous No.10609773]

>>10606927
If any game NEEDS a remaster, it's 5, especially if they clean up the bugs in the game and polish some of the levels a bit.

[Anonymous No.10609778]

Some shots it looks terrible.
Some shots it looks great.

I've never beat 1/2/3 so I'm excited to play this.

[Anonymous No.10610031]

>>10609529
just don't alt-tab bruh

[Anonymous No.10610061]

>>10609768
Then why not just play the old game you retard?

[Anonymous No.10610668]

>>10609768
I want updated graphics that are NOT SHIT. Literally all they had to do is take the original model, densify the mesh and model it with more detail, but instead we get tardosaur rex, surprised it doesn't have feathers and coos.

[Anonymous No.10612283]

>>10604031
>a few textures have been improved
Emphasis on "a few", that's why people are mad
Now I don't have much interest in Tomb Raider, but I am a Spyrofaggot, and while my cheap date monkey brain was impressed by Reignited for a while, some people did make really fair points about how more detailed =/= improved. Remakes tend to
>wash out colors which fucks up the atmosphere of the level
>add so much detail it creates too much visual noise so it's harder to read what you're looking at or where to go (I guess the developers assume you played the original so you already know, but it's still bad practise)
>botch character designs because there's no technical limitations forcing you to be smart when designing anymore

[Anonymous No.10612293]

>>10603994
bitty

[Anonymous No.10612757]

>>10612283
obligatory spyro photo

[Anonymous No.10613074]

>>10610061
Because even with the classic graphics the new ones will run and look infinitely better? Geez, you Americans are dumb as fuck.

[Anonymous No.10613147]

>>10613074
No they won't.

[Anonymous No.10613203]

>>10605028
>Retards. The remake was on ps3

The devs at Aspyr basically said that they are using (presumably) the source codes from the PC originals and basically adding new features from their. Thee are not remakes. Crystal Dynamics are basically the ones making all of the HD assets including the higher polygon Lara model. Someone said that Lara is based on CD's 'unified Lara Croft' model that is a combination of different Lara Croft designs. This is the first time that the original Tomb Raiders got a remaster. Also the first time the originals are on a Nintendo console officially.

[Anonymous No.10613208]

>>10603994
i don't know, i never cared about this franchise. at first glance they respected the art direction i guess

[Anonymous No.10613230]

>>10604015
>left: |>oo|>
>right: boob

[Anonymous No.10613231]

>>10613230
beb

[Anonymous No.10613248]

>>10613203
How is AoD a reboot? It's literally a sequel to The Last Revelation.

[Anonymous No.10613256]

>>10613147
>optimised for modern machines
>plug and play controller support
>4k res
>144fps
>can choose between normal controls and the classic tank shit
yes they will

[Anonymous No.10613258]

>>10609529
there are some programs that let you run every game in borderless window mode, that could help

[Anonymous No.10613289]

>>10603994
All the games are shit, they got meme'd into fame because 11yo's didn't have access to porn at that time

[Anonymous No.10613295]

>>10613289
I don't think you're wrong. I played them a lot as a kid, mostly just fucked around with the cheats. I tried playing the original TR recently and found it clunky as fuck. I'm buying the remasters because tank controls are optional, and nu-raider is garbage so I'd like to see the sales inflated more on classsic bimbo lara's games.

When I see webms of anons pulling off cool shit though, I can respect that. they used their autism well to get good at janky shit like tomb raider.

[Anonymous No.10613319]

>>10613258
Tried that
It can go window mode, but still cant alt tab if i click in the game

[Anonymous No.10613368]

>>10613248
>How is AoD a reboot? It's literally a sequel to The Last Revelation.

It counts as a re-imagining of the series, despite being a sequel.

[Anonymous No.10613382]

>>10613368
>It counts as a re-imagining of the series
how?

[Anonymous No.10613465]

I've never had a good experience with an Aspyr product so I'm not touching this shit. It all looks a bit outsourced and Pajeet-like.

When its released, there will be a bunch of threads negatively comparing the remake to the original. Regardless it will sell well, and John Linneman will call it an "artistic triumph" despite being aesthetically far uglier.

[Anonymous No.10613480]

>>10613465
yeah pretty much

[Anonymous No.10613590]

>>10613382
>how?

> Takes the base idea for the game but the main aspects of the game are completely new. Namely gameplay. These may also reboot the franchise.

It is a complete re-imaging from the original grid-based/ tank control classic Tomb Raiders. Not necessarily a reboot. Perhaps a soft reboot.

[Anonymous No.10613609]

>>10613590
it also continued the story and kept the basic themes and gameplay. you're retarded, it's not a reboot, just a bad continuation.

[Anonymous No.10614053]

>>10613295
you might not be a zoomer but you certainly have the mindset of one.

[Anonymous No.10614072]

>>10614053
if you say so, retard.

[Anonymous No.10614167]

What are tank controls?

[Anonymous No.10614423]

Well I'm playing 1 openlara on my 3ds so when I get this I'll start with two

[Anonymous No.10614586]

>>10609704
>all the animals she kills are on the endangered list.
Lions and gorillas, yes.
Wolves, crocodiles, bears, bats, rats, no.
Raptors and T-rexes are extinct.

[Anonymous No.10614713]

>>10613074
There are already source ports which do all that though. Though I'm not surprised the Eurotrash on this board can't be bothered to spend 10 seconds to check something.
>>10613289
You're not entirely right, but Tomb Raider was definitely a case of right time, right place. Cinematic platformers were only ever popular because of the nice animation rather than the gameplay. Hardcore precision platforming does not have mass appeal, which is ultimately what Tomb Raider is. When the failure point of your actions is 100% you, people tend to deflect blame.

[Anonymous No.10614743]

>>10614167
It's when moving the joystick left makes you turn left instead of moving to the left side of the screen.

[Anonymous No.10614750]

>>10603994
It looks like CGI Lara from the 90s. I like it

[Anonymous No.10614924]

>>10604031
you're a retard or a pajeet, probably both

Go have your midnight snack of cow feces and urine, disgusting subrace

[Anonymous No.10615767]

>>10614924
yeah except this isn't an AI pajeet remaster, it's the same games with updated assets and textures made by people who aren't brown.

dumb cunt

[Anonymous No.10615775]

looking forward to playing it. I was filtered by tank controls in the original. And they didn't mess with her design so this should be good.

[Anonymous No.10615870]

Gaming is healing.

[Anonymous No.10615998]

>>10606629
The virgin lara vs. the chad T-rex

[Anonymous No.10616004]

>>10615870
>Bratz doll
How does this look more lifeless than -

[Anonymous No.10616007]

>>10616004
-this. I mean, the old render doesn't look great beauty wise in comparison, but she actually has facial expressions. This new glass eye barbie Laura is a bit uncanny valley

[Anonymous No.10616012]

>>10616007
they literally look the same with a different poly count

[Anonymous No.10616017]

>>10616012
Yeah... Naw, absolutely you have niggers for eyes.

[Anonymous No.10616028]

>>10616017
Funny, her eyes don't even animate. Really soulful stuff there

[Anonymous No.10616034]

>>10614713
>There are already source ports
Where? The PC versions are literally unplayable with contemporary hardware and require either patches like TombMain. Hell, even those are hit or miss with TR3/4/5 and are missing some features like gamepad support.

[Anonymous No.10616043]

>>10616012
They don't, just look at them. New-nu-laura looks like she has a kim Kardashian filter. You have sphincter vision, sir.

[Anonymous No.10616049]

>>10616034
OpenLara seems to be popular

[Anonymous No.10616059]

>>10616043
What?? Lara has always been a bimbo, that's literally the entire point of her character

[Anonymous No.10616067]

>>10616059
She's a badass and sexy antiquarian, who is not just some dumb bimbo. She's extremely intelligent and is everything a bimbo is not. Her looks are something she has at her advantage, but if she was just some stupid Kim Kardashian cunt who only knows how to blow foot ball players and inject camel humps into her backside, it wouldn't have the same appeal to men or women... Ya fuckin mook.

[Anonymous No.10616202]

>>10606531
you're talking about HD textures but some in the remaster are LOWER RES look at the red base of the plinth

[Anonymous No.10616684]

>>10614072
the retard is getting filtered by OG tomb raider

[Anonymous No.10618623]

>>10604090
People who can't into tank controls have an underdeveloped portion of their brain that handles spatial reasoning. It has been studied, they literally can't handle abstract movement or 'imagine' spatial elements that they cannot see. They only understand relative control (press left on controller, object moves left on the screen relative to the viewer).

They also struggle with other similar abstract spatial reasoning tasks, like driving a remote control car through an obstacle course, or flying a drone. They also have an extremely difficult time with spatial reasoning exercises like you see in IQ tests (pic related is an example).

> tl;dr - people who can't figure out tank controls are literally brain damaged

[Anonymous No.10618629]

>>10603994
There’s no reason for it when OpenLara exists

[Anonymous No.10618639]

>>10613609
It's a reboot in both gameplay and style. You have obviously never actually played it or you would know this.

The series went from the same plucky adventurer gameplay from 1-4 to a le grimdark gritty 'realistic' game with hub areas, strength upgrades, an NPC conversation system, a second playable character with a different play style, etc.

[Anonymous No.10618651]

>>10618629
OpenLara is unfinished, you could play TR1X but these remasters are probably fine

[Anonymous No.10618838]

>>10618651
>OpenLara is unfinished, you could play TR1X but these remasters are probably fine

OpenLara is still pretty inaccurate when compared to the original games. It's a nice rebuild of the Tomb Raider engine, but still feels off at times. Aspyr says that they are using the 'original' source codes. But I have my doubts that they are the PS1 source codes. Since Aspyr ported the PC games to Mac back in the day, and those ones are based on the 'gold' edition PC versions. hence why these ports come with the additional PC content, like Unfinished Business, Golden Masks, and The Lost Artifacts.

[Anonymous No.10619310]

>>10618838
You mean the saturn source codes?

[Anonymous No.10619319]

>>10603994
its probably gonna be shit like every remaster but it would be cool if im wrong

[Anonymous No.10619321]

>>10604090
you are not fooling anyone you are a zoomer that tried it for the first time and got filtered

[Anonymous No.10619459]

>>10606629
>>10615870
There's something I can't quite put my finger on with this, a spark that's missing. It looks like what the gays and gals of tombraiderforums would come up with, which is probably why they love it so much, but it lacks grit.

[Anonymous No.10621593]

>>10619310
>You mean the saturn source codes?

Only the first Tomb Raider was ever ported to the Saturn. The Saturn game was actually the lead development system for Tomb Raider 1, due to the weirdness of the Saturn hardware. Sony money hatted console exclusivity for the numbered sequels for Tomb Raider 2 and Tomb Raider 3. Those two games only appeared on the PS1 and PC, back in the day.

[Anonymous No.10621596]

>>10604090
Unironically low iq, most likely under 25.

[Anonymous No.10621664]

>>10621593

Taken from the Playstation developer blogs:
https://blog.playstation.com/2024/01/16/tomb-raider-i-iii-remastered-ps4-ps5-features-detailed-new-key-art-revealed/

> Aspyr & Lara go way back
A burgeoning video game company, Aspyr, launches Tomb Raider II on Macintosh computers. Aspyr continued with the Tomb Raider franchise until 2003, launching Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider III, Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation, Tomb Raider: Chronicles, and Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness.
>We’ve always wanted to revisit these titles, but we always debated the right approach. For years, we worked through the right balance of preservation and modernization. And once we felt we nailed it, we got in touch with our friends at Crystal Dynamics.

Aspyr has been around since the late 90's, and they really started out as a Windows/ DOS to MacOS port team. Basically porting games from Windows to Mac. They ported the Windows versions of Tomb Raider 1,2,3, Revelations, Chronicles and AOD to Mac for Eidos back in the day. It is highly likely that they still have old archived copies of the PC source codes for these games, or they are using some sort of Mac derivative.

[Anonymous No.10621970]

>>10604060
I'm gonna do what I did back in the day and leave the raptors and rex alive.

[Anonymous No.10623612]

>>10604029
good. i want soulless remakes to fail. no exception

[Anonymous No.10623615]

>>10604886
GOOD MORNING SIR
BUY REMEKE IT GET BIG BABS

[Anonymous No.10623982]

>>10612757
Spyro's motion sickness is far from a good example of good color theory. But they butched the designs in the remake they look like these ugly smite designs

[Anonymous No.10624009]

>>10616067
She was a psycho bimbo now they've turned her into a psycho bitch