/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10598891]

I sincerely hope that none of you spend $100+ before shipping on CRTs, which for the most part are not necessary anymore. I may want another 13 inch CRT for an 80s computer corner, but I'll wait for a local one to show up at a reasonable price before I pay 3 figures for one.

[Anonymous No.10598894]

cool bro

[Anonymous No.10598907]

Paying any amount of money for a CRT makes you a cuck and anything lower than 27" is poverty tier.

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10598912]

>>10598891
Is 30USD good for a 27'' TrueFlat Philips TV?
It has Component input and included a controller.
It is fairly clean (slight degrading of power button metallic patina) and bright below 50% of brightness/contrast(picture).

Am I ok, tho?

I found it in Facebook Marketplace, sold by a 50yo guy who was probably visiting mom from another city (he had Texas plates, and I live in borderlands Mexico), so I assume it was a Holidays decision because they got Grandma a new TV.

[Anonymous No.10598921]

that's why I say hey man nice shot

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10598941]

>>10598912
I am obviously bragging, but do not despair, I had been looking for a good deal for about 4 months, so just be patient (I hope you don't live in a hipster city tho)

[Anonymous No.10598969]

>>10598891
I paid $0 for my shitty 13" consumer CRT that my Nan had lying around.

[Anonymous No.10598980]

>>10598907
If someone is offering a big CRT for free it's good form to slip them a $20 at least. More if they help you move it to your car.

[Anonymous No.10599015]

>>10598891
People would pay any amount of money for food if they were starving to death. Life without the CRT is a form of starvation.

[Anonymous No.10599030]

>>10598907
fucking this, fuckers refuse to wait more than a day to find a CRT and just end up paying reddit faggot scalpers wanting 200 bucks because they want their instant gratification now

non-retards just wait until an old lady needs their old heavy TV moved from the house or finds one on the side of the road

i found a small late model toshiba with component at an illegal ewaste dump at a marina surrounded by smashed LCDs leaking all sorts harmful chemicals into the ocean

millions of these fucking things were produced and numales proceed to act like they are the rare artifacts now, stop enabling these retards

[Anonymous No.10599058]

yes I actually paid 380 for a Panasonic PVM that's too long to fit on my desk, it needs to be in a rack. It has only BNC and S-video inputs. I don't care

[Anonymous No.10599067]

>>10599058
Exactly, if you feel the crt is worth it then get it. Otherwise don't buy it. As long as you are aware you're buying an obsolete piece of technology that can die at any time. I also don't think people should deceive people by selling broken equipment as good or hide defects.

[Anonymous No.10599072]

>>10599030
I think you underestimate how many of them were used until they broke, or were thrown away. You can keep saying this, but as the years go by it's only going to sound more ridiculous. Sure, scalpers are a thing everywhere; but at the end of the day, given the size and fragility of these devices, geography and demand dictate prices. Nobody's going to give away something when they know if they wait long enough, they'll get somebody to buy it.
Whinge all you like. It's akin to classic cars. Very similar, but arguably even more niche given the fact that fewer individuals are able or willing to work on these devices than there are mechanics capable of repairing old cars.
It's a niche collector's market, every reseller knows this, and they don't care about your feelings

[Anonymous No.10599084]

>>10598907
I spent 30 for a Trinitron i came across at a indoor flea market. Of the 70+ i have, its the most i paid. I usually pick up a nice small set a year because fuck you, 8bit stuff looks nice on a little set(but not too little)

[Anonymous No.10599098]

>>10598891
I had the opportunity to pick up two Commodore 1084's for the price of free back in 2017, but they ended up in the trash instead and I came too late.

That still stings to this day.

[Anonymous No.10599129]

>>10599072
Exactly it's a free market and a free world and as long as people are not deceived then it's fine to charge whatever you want for them. Doesn't mean people will purchase them but they have the opportunity. Always test a CRT though, especially if spending decent money on it.

[Anonymous No.10599136]

>>10599072
They don't break at anywhere near the rate you think they break at and they are most definitely not fragile. Most CRTs that "break" are usually minor issues like caps going. The reason they aren't everywhere is because people hauled them to the dump when they got a new tv. The ones that survive is because people were even too lazy to dispose of them and just threw them in the garage until they moved. I see Facebook posts on CRT pages of people discovering 20-30 CRTs from old abandon businesses all the time. They are everywhere and the reason they survive is because most people just don't want to have to move and properly dispose of them. Yes the number of them are going down but for every CRT enthusiast there's like 100 surviving CRTs.

[Anonymous No.10599137]

>>10599030
Yeah, it depends on if you want just any set, or if you want to get a particular set. If, say, you want an NEC XM29 nowadays, you're probably going to be stuck having to pay FMITA prices, unless you get lucky. And to a lesser degree, if you want a specific model of 80s Trinitron or something, you might not be able to just find one locally. Random late 90s curved tubes and flat CRTs, though? Yeah, chances are you can still find some of those locally if you wait a little bit. What amuses me most are people paying $100+ on ebay for those little TV/VHS combo sets. I guess the buyers are so young that they don't remember that those sets were kitchen-tier and little Timmy's bedroom-tier sets that nobody gave a shit about. I'd bet they're some of the most common out there, and plenty of literal boomers and early Gen Xers probably still have them in a closet, if not even still hooked up in the breakfast nook.

[Anonymous No.10599275]

>>10599136
Professional models? Those are the first to break, burn in. or otherwise wither due to use because, well, they're used professionally.
As I said earlier, the number of CRTs in the wild does not dictate prices; that's geography and demand. When I say many have been broken, I also mean people, as you've said, have thrown many of them away for whatever reason. And you must ask yourself, given this population of surviving CRTs, how many are operational? How many are in a condition such that they'll be desirable at all?
At the end of the day, this amounts to whinging over prices, and it accomplishes nothing. You must understand that.

[Anonymous No.10599312]

>>10599030
>or finds one on the side of the road
this is bullshit. maybe if you live in an major urban center that had a massively inflated amount of dated electronics. I've seen one crt on the side of the road in like the last 5 years and it was trash you'd never bother with. no consistency whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.10599340]

>>10599030
from what I've gleened scanning facebook marketplace. free stuff is always either fuckhuge or offbrand, I think it's fair to say that most people who bother with craigslist will take a cursory glance to see if they have anything worthwhile. if you're willing to pay 20$-40$ you can find some nicer stuff. the only models that go for $200 are unicorns.

[Anonymous No.10599342]

>>10599312
A lot of the time you have to drive out to get CRT's as well even if they're free the gas to collect them and transport them isn't. It's not like you can carry a 27 home on the bus. And often I fix and calibrate them as well which takes time and sometimes costs money in materials such as capacitors/solder etc. So yeah, if people want to charge and people want to pay then why not? It doesn't have to be a fortune or a scalp but if it's reasonable there's no problem.

[Anonymous No.10599901]

>>10598891
How did CRT's and specially PVM ones ended up being associated with autism? Of all the things... but autists do make CRT's their life existence.

[Anonymous No.10599924]

>>10599901
Did his parents get him the PVM so he has the best ultra pro gayming monitor for competitive play even though he only uses it for NES via composite?

[Anonymous No.10599945]

>>10598891
I have 3 CRTs. A Sony KV-27FS120 I paid $10 for back in 2018, a free 19" Zenith TV from the 1980s that has an S-video port and built-in AV splitter, and a free ViewSonic PC monitor that unfortunately died on me last year.

Hope I can find someone who can fix it for me though.

[Anonymous No.10599953]

>>10599924
The kid probably went on reddit and just assumed that was what he had to get. Any crt tv would have accomplished the same low input lag and clear motion.

[Anonymous No.10599959]

>>10599945
PC monitors seem to die faster than the tv's for some reason. Same happened to my PC monitor.

[Anonymous No.10599965]

Cant people just make shitty junk sets into decently quality ones now via rgb/component mods?

[Anonymous No.10600161]

>>10598891
>I sincerely hope that none of you spend $100+
No, I spend like 20$ or less on a CRT and only when it's nearby, which happens roughly once per month

[Anonymous No.10600237]

>>10599030
>non-retards just wait until an old lady needs their old heavy TV moved from the house or finds one on the side of the road
Yep. My aunt inherited my grandmothers house, down in the family room is the old 27inch trinitron from 2001 still. i told her ill take it when the time comes.

[Anonymous No.10600253]

>>10599901
the fascination for pvms and the annoyance people have due to their prices online is mindboggling considering how they were specifically used by hospitals and tv studios ect, not the average consumer.
kudos on the kid, though with his accomplishment. Gen Alpha bro making middle aged manchildren upset that he mastered a game that belonged to their generation.

[Anonymous No.10600270]

>>10599342
A blatant lie. The average age of a /vr/ shitposter crying about CRTs is 12. You can't even legally operate a tractor on a public road in a hillbilly state at that age. Also your larp about recap+reflow is also an obvious blatant lie.

[Anonymous No.10600284]

I have to say, games look fucking great on my pvm 20m4u.

[Anonymous No.10600293]

>>10599965
Sort of. Component is much clearer than composite, but if the tube is shit, it's still going to be shit.
I have a consumer set lying around that I might rgb mod, but then again it already has s-video so I probably won't bother

[Anonymous No.10600452]

>>10600293
It is worth it if you are a Sega fan. Everything else looks decent on svideo

[Anonymous No.10600473]

>>10600270
>The average age of a /vr/ shitposter crying about CRTs is 12.

[Anonymous No.10600584]

>you need to wait an indeterminate amount of time, potentially years because you have to avoid the shame of buying something for 25$
paying out the ass for a meme model is one thing but otherwise what you're talking about is a retarded time value scale.

[Anonymous No.10600592]

>>10600237
>>you need to wait an indeterminate amount of time, potentially years because you have to avoid the shame of buying something for 25$
>paying out the ass for a meme model is one thing but otherwise what you're talking about is a retarded time value scale.

[Anonymous No.10600612]

>>10600584
Diligence is as much a factor as luck.

[Anonymous No.10600614]

>>10600592
Diligence is as much a factor as luck.

[Anonymous No.10600623]

>>10598891
Nothing wrong with spending some disposable incoming in something you like/want.

[Anonymous No.10600645]

>>10599030
>just carry a 30 inch tv bro

[Anonymous No.10600661]

>>10600645
If you're strong enough you can do it. A 32" inch ranges from 110 to 160 pounds.

[Anonymous No.10600697]

>>10600661
To be fair, the average /vr/ user probably can't lift more than 20lbs max.

[Anonymous No.10600765]

>>10600452
>Everything else looks decent on svideo
Yea S-Video is severely underrated. For a consumer set this is a good value. But everyone wants RGB and PVMs for some reason

[Anonymous No.10600778]

>>10600473
>posted from my mommies iphone
fact

[Anonymous No.10600789]

I paid $20 for mine at a goodwill in 2009

[Anonymous No.10600959]

>>10600645
do you loser fucks not know 1 other person to help you move a tv.

[Anonymous No.10600963]

I hate to use the poorfag meme, but $100 is really not a lot. Even if all your money is eaten up by bills, $100 does not take a long time to save.

Yes, you should be responsible with your money. Yes, you should look for deals. Yes, you should wait and not buy the first thing you see. But you also sound foolish and without perspective acting like $100 is a large sum of cash. People in this hobby really do not understand how good they have it.

[Anonymous No.10600998]

I've done it but it's also in pursuit of a very specific set (a small set with Component inputs).

I regret it but I did what I had to.

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10601003]

>>10600963
Not everyone gets paid 16USD per hour flipping burgers at Slopdonalds.

[Anonymous No.10601046]

>>10601003
So go do whatever the spic version of that is then

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10601050]

>>10601046
Burgers think all of 4chan is located in San Francisco.

[Anonymous No.10601258]

>>10598891
>$100+
I spent more than that getting my PVM and BVM serviced and calibrated.

[Anonymous No.10601269]

>>10600765
Composite for 3rd gen, rgb for 4th, s-video for 5th(because of dithering) and rgb or component for 6th.

[Anonymous No.10601272]

>>10598891
I found a 15khz component-in TV and some 31khz monitors over the pandemic for less than $100 total over FB marketplace.

[Anonymous No.10601274]

>>10601258
>paying people to CHANGE SETTINGS
Dude.

[Anonymous No.10601281]

>>10600623
I'd pay for a crack at that sideways strange.

[Anonymous No.10601285]

>>10601272
I paid far too much for my first 21 inch compaq but have learnt my lesson and now don't overspend. Just me personally though, I don't care what others pay for stuff. Patience is the key though and also actively looking. But you have to factor in time and vehicle costs as well.

[Anonymous No.10601304]

>>10600963
These people would have an aneurysm if they saw used gun prices in canuckistan.

[Anonymous No.10601434]

>>10601274
He used that color sensor thingy that attaches to the screen and did everything with professional reference equipment from Boeing. The monitors literally have perfect image quality.

[Anonymous No.10603028]

>>10599030
/thread

[Anonymous No.10603079]

>>10601434
Boeing hires diversitys and poos over quality. I don't trust shit from them.

[Anonymous No.10603137]

My father in law was gonna throw this away and I've been pretty pleased with it. I may shell out money for a PVM someday but it's a pretty low priority

[Popckorn !BuTtER.O4. No.10603139]

>>10603079
And purchases obviously fake "certified" steel from Chinese market dumps.
Remember 5 or so years ago when their airplanes literally broke midair?
As in, the steel beams literally broke in half during a flight. And these are the same materials used for their US Military Industrial Contracts.

Nevermind 5 years ago, it happened again this month:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2024/01/09/local-retired-pilot-addresses-safety-concerns-raised-after-part-of-aircraft-breaks-off-midair/

[Anonymous No.10603275]

g-sync pulsar will render them obsolete

[Anonymous No.10603279]

>>10603275
Good, I prefer obsolete tech.

[Anonymous No.10603312]

>>10603275
>check the images
>g spot sync or something still has blur

[Anonymous No.10603520]

>>10599953

This is almost definetely what happened. Since Redditors are obsessed with upvotes and seeming "knowledgable", they made a niche recommendation that and made him spend more money than he needed to

[Anonymous No.10603526]

>>10601003

>McDonalds is now considered a high paying job

Well, maybe you should work there then

[Anonymous No.10603539]

>>10600592
No retard, its because i dont have time or room to setup a massive brick or where to put it since im married with a child on the way.

[Anonymous No.10603543]

>>10603539
I have dedicated /vr/ space in my house and I'm a poorfag with a child.

[Anonymous No.10603671]

>>10603539
If something like that is such a monumental task and time sink for you, you are going to be absolutely fucked trying to raise a kid.

[Anonymous No.10603804]

>>10598891
CRTs are out. Dell 4:3 LCD monitors from the mid 2000s are in.

[Anonymous No.10604075]

>>10603079
Well the guy got his equipment from them 20 years ago so it was all made by white people.

[Anonymous No.10604095]

>>10604075
Good point.

[Anonymous No.10604105]

an anon from one of these threads shipped me an almost 40 year old television across the USA for free

[Anonymous No.10604563]

>>10603804
Whatever you say fashionista

[Anonymous No.10605297]

>>10604105
Impressive if it made it intact

[Anonymous No.10605357]

>>10598891
Why would you pay 3 figures? Picked up a mint CM8833-II for 5 eur just the other day.

[Anonymous No.10606718]

>>10605297
sure did and it's a little defective (that's why he sent it) but it pretty much works and looks great imo

[Anonymous No.10608264]

>>10604105
This anon sounds cool and based.