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The lighting in this game is 100% art and gorgeous.

Also the monsters have the perfect look

>> No.10586347

>>10586331
I love Doom 64 and its looks and all, but that's just green lights, bro.

>> No.10586348

I finished the remaster when it came out. What's special about the lightning?

>> No.10586354

the light in this game is i cant see shit therefore unplayable trash. i dont care how artistic your game is, if you cant adjust brightness depending on room light, then i cant see your fucking game as your art is invalidated

>> No.10586381

>>10586354
The game actually looks perfect at default brightness level on a calibrated monitor.

>> No.10586423
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>>10586354
Wait, you're not playing on a CRT, the way the developer intended?

I can't believe you'd just admit something like that.

>> No.10586484
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>>10586347
>but that's just green lights, bro.
>>10586348
>What's special about the lightning?
It looks like magic.

Have a look.
There is something special about this look. Like there is a gradient of light on the walls or something. It is hard to explain.

>> No.10586494

>>10586354
>the light in this game is i cant see shit
Look at my webms.
This is from the PC remaster of the game with minimal increases in brightens.

Tell me you can not see shit. And I tell you to go and find a eye doctor as soon as possible.

>> No.10586506

>>10586484
Oh, the gradient. I picked up on that, yea. I like gradients too, when they're done right.

>> No.10586557
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>>10586506
I do not know it looks like magic.
I'm unsure if they colored the textures this way or if this is some advanced lighting efect.

It looks like magic especially if there are these areas of colored light.

And it is like pulsing.
I love it and I did never see another game look like this.

>> No.10586697

No reload animation = big no from me dawg

>> No.10586732

>>10586331
too bad the level design sucks: run fast from switch to door using the n64 controller

>> No.10586813

>>10586732
>using the n64 controller
OP here only played in on PC in the emulator loved it.
Playing the remaster now on PC and loving it a lot.

>> No.10586897

>>10586331
it sure looks nice when you can actually see it
I'm glad no other games in the series have that same problem

>> No.10586920
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>>10586557
its practically the same as vertex lighting but because of the 2d level layouts it is restricted to vertical gradients

>> No.10586964

>>10586920
More info on this.
>restricted to vertical gradients
This makes the game look gorgeous (my opinion) what is your take?

>> No.10587042

>>10586897
>when you can actually see it
What is this thing?
The I only played DOOM 64 on emulator and needed to crank up the contrast full up.

When I play the remaster the webms is what you get.

>> No.10587072
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>>10586331
The lighting in this game...
You didn't play the game on N64.

>> No.10587080

>>10587072
>You didn't play the game on N64.
YES.
Tell me what the difference is.

>> No.10587081

>>10587042
For whatever reason the game as it shipped was too dark, especially the default configuration. Adjusting the brightness helps but CRTs of the 90s were not always played in pitch black rooms for ideal viewing. It's the games biggest flaw, and hell stages being so dark only added to how difficult it is to see. The game playing with dark or carefully lit rooms for effect didn't help, and the softness of the n64 made making out some elements genuinely annoying. I like doom64s look but it's like in the new art style they didn't adjust well from the vibrant original doom art.

>> No.10587084

>>10587081
Interesting.

What do you think of the PC remaster?

>> No.10587089

>>10587084
I like the old ex and new official release. Most probably don't remember the days where the absolution was the way to play doom64 on pc lol.

>> No.10587090

>>10587089
>old ex
>>10587089
>new official release
>>10587089
>Most probably don't remember the days where the absolution was the way to play doom64 on pc lol.
I understood non of that.

>> No.10587093

>>10587080
The difference is you didn't see shit on actual N64 hardware. Certainly on the 1.0 version of the Rom. It was nearly unplayable.

>> No.10587097

>>10587090
https://www.moddb.com/addons/doom64-absolution-tc

>> No.10587102

>>10587097
Interesting.
>>10587093
Tell me more.

>> No.10587147

I played it through a fan wad made for gzdoom, like Hesus intended hisself.

>> No.10587574
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>>10586331
>that brightness

>> No.10588047

>>10586494
He's talking about the original N64 release.

>> No.10588063

>>10588047
>He's talking about the original N64 release.
Tell me more how it is on the N64

>> No.10588072

It was good on N64.

>> No.10588073

>>10587093
>The difference is you didn't see shit on actual N64 hardware

you basically have to turn up the ingame brightness and gamma all the way to max, maybe even your tv. its ridiculous

>> No.10588112

Doom 64 was meant to be more horror, not scifi.

>> No.10588116

>>10588063
Obviously people have already said it is SIGNIFICANTLY darker than the current rerelease. You can just do a YouTube search on it.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=d5s59eI_9JMpp%3DygUTRG9vbSA2NCB2cyByZW1hc3Rlcg
This isn't even accounting for your TV setting which could easily make it darker.

>> No.10588190

>>10586423
Everything is perfectly visible on an LCD, and I say that with horrible eyesight. Anon must have a fucked up screen.

>> No.10588194

>>10586557
>I'm unsure if they colored the textures this way
>or if this is some advanced lighting efect.
Doom 64 makes frequent use out of color tinting on its flats and textures to get more mileage and variety out of them.

>>10587093
Oh, yeah, you need to turn out all the lights and blind all your windows when playing the original release.

>> No.10588204

>>10588072
That entire era sucked for consoles except for a few racers and arcades

It was more known for the nu-metal rap reggae hybrid live shows

>> No.10588219
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10588219

>>10586557
"Each sector has a ceiling, top wall, bottom wall, floor and thing color that must be set for every sector."
more info here: https://iamsparky.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/doom64/

>> No.10588856 [DELETED] 

>>10588204
Tranny

>> No.10588943

>>10588204
on the n64 maybe because FPS and racing games were the only things western developers knew how to do, but playstation and saturn got tons of innovative games and genre defining masterpieces.

>> No.10589192

>>10586331
Why is it so green? Is this a radioactive level or something?

>> No.10589445

>>10587080
try it on steam, even with a modern port you can barely see anything
CRTs had deeper blacks but that just meant you saw even less
I do not understand how such a dark game got made. The whole studio much have been pitch black

>> No.10589456

Anytime you're completey bathed and enveloped in a coloured light it's always kino. I love the areas with green ooze floors the rooms are always fully lit neon green. Nice orange, yellows, purples and dark blues. Yep, it's kino lighting for sure.

>> No.10589460

>>10589456
>that level with the lava and platforms descending to reveal new pathways
D64 is ludokino

>> No.10589464 [DELETED] 

>>10587090
>>10586331

>> No.10589470

>>10587090
https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-64-retribution

>> No.10591873

>>10586484
I like this look too, but it's actually zero lighting. We're so used to seeing simulated Dynamic light that when it's not there it actually looks better because a game looks like a game.

>> No.10591882

>>10586697
>No reload animation = big no from me dawg
I wonder what other stupid decisions you make in your life based off meaningless and trivial non-issues lol

>> No.10591942

Playing the N64 version right now on a CRT. Looks fantastic, zero visibility issues

>> No.10592159

>>10588116
>Obviously people have already said it is SIGNIFICANTLY darker than the current rerelease. Y
Not to my experience.
I played it on a emulator and it looks identical to how it looks on the PC remaster.

HOWEVER I remember basically dedicating 1 emulators for doom 64 where I cranked up the brightness in the emulator to the MAX. So keep this in mind. I assumed it is some N64 emulator thing and did play the game this way.

>> No.10592163

>>10588194
>Oh, yeah, you need to turn out all the lights and blind all your windows when playing the original release.
Or play it in your bunker with the light turned off.

>> No.10592165

>>10589192
>Why is it so green?
There are also very blue and red sectors, the game looks simply like this.

Play the remaster.

>> No.10593997

>>10586557
Doom 64 took notes from Quake 2 Lightning, which was improved later on the N64 port

>> No.10594548

>>10588219
3dark5me

>> No.10594550

>>10586331
it's the only legitimately good classic doom game