I've been using ZSNES for... well, years now, I guess. Are there any other SNES emulators that are considered superior? What does /vr/ use?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 9 00:02:37 2013 No.1057994 [DELETED]

I've been using ZSNES for... well, years now, I guess.

Are there any other SNES emulators that are considered superior? What does /vr/ use?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 00:07:34 2013 No.1058014 There's a link to the emulation wiki in the board's sticky. Check it, it's really, really useful. I use Higan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 00:21:35 2013 No.1058036 i use bsnes, but on low-tier setups it can be slow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 01:33:02 2013 No.1058243 snes9x v1.53

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 03:18:21 2013 No.1058405

>>1057994
Just download RetroArch. It has bsnes and snes9x cores, as well as cores for practically every other system you can think of, and it can update itself so you'll never have to worry about downloading newer versions of emulators ever again.

Just remember to change the audio settings to xaudio2 so you won't have any sound crackling issues

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 03:25:50 2013 No.1058421 >>1058405 also get the bios pack on the wiki if you want to play playstation/neogeo games: http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Emulator_Files

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 05:17:22 2013 No.1058607 File: 33 KB, 500x565, 1358931798772.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] use the actual console, fucking pleb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 01:05:07 2013 No.1060686 >>1057994 Read: http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Nintendo_emulators

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 02:40:31 2013 No.1060934 >>1057994 I've been using SNESHOUT ever since a friend of mine gave it to me on a CD_R a long time ago. Otherwise I use SNES9x

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 16:01:00 2013 No.1062363 I still use ZSNES 1.36. IT JUST WERKS. Someone's making an emulator with ZSNES UI and SNES9x' emulation engine, so I might switch to that when it's done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 18:58:52 2013 No.1062687 >>1057994 >Terranigma My fucking nigger. Snes9x is the best general-purpose SNES emulator (i.e. works "fine" on basically everyone's machine). You should really be using bsnes if you can, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 21:48:40 2013 No.1065546 >>1057994 i still use zsnes i have yet to find another snes emulator that can use rite mouse click (instead of ESC) to get back to the menu. i really love that feature

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 00:40:24 2013 No.1066043 >>1065546 I dont know how else to put it, ZSNES is just... comfy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 00:43:25 2013 No.1066054 >>1066043 I love ZSNES, but I had to switch to bsnes. If ZSNES would emulate ActRaiser 2 properly, I'd go back to it in an instant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 17:29:35 2013 No.1067475 >>1057994 >ZSNES top lel

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:10:04 2013 No.1067594

>>1057994

/vr/ doesn't like ZSNES because it is not "accurate". So it depends on how much of a purist you are. ZSNES was made to just reproduce the SNES output without really caring about how close to the console that is achieved. Its biggest problem is that is hasn't been updated in a long time anymore. An example of a flaw is that it can't show transparency properly.
I see that pragmatic: Changing then when a game is not emulated properly, otherwise I don't give a fuck.

Second question:
EVERY OTHER emulator is considered superior. SNES9x should be sufficient for your needs. the other ones are just needed if you really want to be as close to the original as possible

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:12:05 2013 No.1067602 >>1067594 How not accurate is it really, I hear that shit about certain emulators a lot but noone ever offers up anything more other than saying that they are less accurate than some other emulator

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:20:04 2013 No.1067619 >>1057994 Nope. You're using the best SNES emulator out there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:33:06 2013 No.1067651 File: 171 KB, 783x681, ness.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] snes9x dude. It's perfect. Plus you can't go wrong with that Hq4x video mode.

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:36:34 2013 No.1067662

I download zmz because everyone said zsnes was shit but I like the interface. Unfortunately I get crackling audio and can't figure out what to do.
So, I tried bsnes but Earthbound lags when I get to the space guy fight. My notebook is only 3 years old.
What am I doing wrong?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:39:56 2013 No.1067673 >>1067662 Now I am interested in how your games run on ZSNES... If that "ohhh- so bad" one can do it properly while all other can't I'm gonna giggle like little child...

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:42:57 2013 No.1067686 I love ZSNES...Nostalgia reasons, probably, since it was the first SNES emulator I ever used 15 or so years ago...But I have SNES9x on hand for games that ZSNES seems to have trouble with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:44:26 2013 No.1067696 >>1067651 Why do people like those smoothing filters? To me, that looks terrible. I prefer being able to see all the pixels.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:44:57 2013 No.1067694 >>1067673 Yeah, zsnes runs fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:49:43 2013 No.1067719 >>1067696 I normally don't use em but it looks better this way on my monitor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:51:13 2013 No.1067726 File: 15 KB, 222x126, whynotboth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1067686 Exactly this. There is enough room for two emulators in town... >>1067694 lol I really like the irony...

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 18:55:12 2013 No.1067745 File: 70 KB, 1168x960, higan-performance 2013-09-13 08-51-59-01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Even the audio is perfect.

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 21:35:10 2013 No.1068150

>>1057994
Don't listen to these hipster faggots op, ZSNES is a damn fine emulator. The core is written in mostly x86 assembly, for you non-programmers that means shit is wicked fast.

People will say it's not as accurate, but given that that means it doesn't always push virtual electrons at the full 59.9Hz, whatever. It never affects the framerate or gameplay.

ZSNES also has features that other emulators don't have, like fully compatible save states, rewind, netplay, and full multitap support.

TL;DR, hates gunna hate.

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 21:57:09 2013 No.1068205

>>1057994
higan/bsnes uses some bullshit rom setup system; just configuring it up so it works the way I like it would take longer than the amount of time I play SNES games a year (given that all the SNES games I care about have gba or ds). Zsnes I already have set up and it just werks for the occasional use.

Accuracy is cool, but none of the games I play are really affected by it, and Byuu is way too much of a smug bastard about keeping things super accurate for me to care. I fully acknowledge that his emulator is better and that his work on it is super important though, I'm just not affected by it in any way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 22:05:39 2013 No.1068232 >>1068205 So Byuu is an asshole for making sure that his emulator actually, you know, emulates properly?

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 22:09:09 2013 No.1068243

>>1058405

I tried RetroArch. It seems to not come with any of these all-important cores? I see that I can download source code for the bSNES core. Is there a way I can just get a pre-built package of this stuff (for Windows), and maaaaybe even some kind of simple explanation of how to configure and run the thing? I'm a programmer, I can build from source, but see I'm here to play games, and since I'm not autistic I don't experience Linux as a game. Any help or should I just go back to ZSNES, the neurotypical's emulator?

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 22:17:44 2013 No.1068269

>>1068232

Requiring that you put every ROM file in its own directory or whatever, and that you use a SFC file rather than an SMC file, has nothing to do with accuracy of emulation. An SMC file in a random directory can be emulated with perfect accuracy. Unless I'm wrong. I haven't written any emulators after all.

He's not necessarily an asshole though. He might just be unconscious of how stupid things like that seem to an ordinary person who just wants to play some games. If his thing weren't free then he'd find out soon enough, but it's free to use and seems to mostly lack competition, so it's also free to suck (in every way that doesn't involve accuracy).

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 22:26:13 2013 No.1068296

>>1068243

Oh okay according to the wiki in the /vr/ sticky you are supposed to use the "phoenix" version of the RetroArch executable. Which I can't do because it crashes as soon as I run it. Well, they're only on version 0.9.9; I can't expect the program to actually run or anything. That's conventionally not covered until the 0.9.9.94 release, according to my understanding. ALL RIGHT welcome back into my heart lovely ZSNES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 22:45:14 2013 No.1068334 >>1068296 RetroArch is pretty good, but the guy who writes it is a total shithead. Just look up some of his forum activity and see what a petty fucking manchild that guy is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:09:34 2013 No.1068363 File: 46 KB, 400x361, 1374254130243.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1067696 >>1067696

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:14:33 2013 No.1068370 >>1062363 It has been done for a long while now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:18:20 2013 No.1068380 >>1067662 Are you running bsnes performance? That's the only profile my shit laptop can power.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:18:49 2013 No.1068375 I don't want to start a new thread. How do you guys feel about playing retro on phones? What games do you think lend themselves well to the funky controls. I'm thinking anything like a platformer would be out of the question.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:21:20 2013 No.1068383 >>1068375 Start a new thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 02:47:05 2013 No.1068785 everything but zsnes

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 02:57:05 2013 No.1068795

>>1068375
To be honest I don't like playing /vr/ on touchscreens. It just feels so clunky. But there's people that get used to it.

Turn-based RPGs would be good, since you don't need to be moving all the time in those. But fighting games, action RPGs and platformers sound really hard to control.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 03:13:05 2013 No.1068828 >>1057994 Not sure I'd say it's superior, but snes9x has been nice to me over the years. Really, if zsnes works for you, why change up? It plays the games, that's all that matters.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 07:21:10 2013 No.1069042

>>1068828
in my experience on this board, if it's not the MUH ORIGINAL HARDWARE argument, it's an inferiority complex that has to be bolstered up by saying things like
>bSNES/Higan/9x/RetroArch/etc is clearly superior and the only truly accurate option for emulation
>anything but (insert the emulator you're talking about using) is an acceptable form of emulation

saying things like "it plays the games, that's all that matters" allows for there to be options for different people depending on their needs/desires, and such a concept is not acceptable here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:29:11 2013 No.1070009 >>1069042 SNES9x plays games better than ZSNES, therefore the logical choice is to recommend SNES9x

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:32:11 2013 No.1070017 >>1069042 >assmad zsnes fag

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:41:41 2013 No.1070040 >>1069042 Oh it's not that rough around here. Sure the typical internet badassery shows itself often, but there are still several of us who see /vr/ as a place that can remain civil and respectful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:53:01 2013 No.1070079 >>1067602 http://web.archive.org/web/20120724122435/http://byuu.org/bsnes/accuracy

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:55:00 2013 No.1070084

>>1068269
In the latest version of higan, you don't need to convert anything yourself. All your .smc and .zip games will work just fine. Just go to Library -> Load, select your game, and play. Never have to worry about folders or .sfc or anything like that again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 18:04:00 2013 No.1070108 bsnes is the most acurate, but SNES9X has filters and turbo buttons and shit which bsnes doesn't have.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 18:16:59 2013 No.1070126

Retroarch using bsnes core with crt-geom shader and ntsc-svideo filter custom set to your tastes.

Best accuracy, and you can get that filter + shader combo to be minimally intrusive, just enough to give the feel of a real SNES hooked up to a tv, with out going full retard mode (extremely curved screen, 100% scanlines, over the top dithering, etc. That shit hurts to look at.)

Seriously, this is the most satisfying way to play.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 04:42:54 2013 No.1071397 >>1067745 shit man what does that sign say

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 04:59:25 2013 No.1071414 >>1066054 >>1066043 >>1065546 I want to make zsnes my go to snes emulator but it doesn't let me complete certain games... it ALWAYS crashes on the axem rangers (smrpg) for instance

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:53:11 2013 No.1071712 How are you suppose to download a shader anyway, I can only seem to find the source code for them or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 11:08:41 2013 No.1071725 >>1070084 Isn't one of Byuu's reason that the game needs to be converted is because of bad ROM dump?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 12:54:37 2013 No.1071860 >>1071712 Shaders are source code that is dynamically compiled at runtime Most shaders can be found here https://github.com/libretro/common-shaders

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 16:58:41 2013 No.1072373 i wish someone would have told me when i wassa kid that i could play all snes gaymes for free in the future. i might have grownup as less of a maladjusted douche.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:17:41 2013 No.1072406 >>1071397 Inn.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:36:16 2013 No.1072428

>>1071725
smc files contain headers, which technically makes them not 100% accurate.
They still contain everything needed to play a game, just some extra crap you don't need too.

I converted all my snes roms to sfc, but that's only because I like consistent file extensions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:37:15 2013 No.1072431 >>1072428 I did that too, but it's annoying because now there are some emulators on Android that they don't work with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:39:16 2013 No.1072436 >>1072431 Which emulator are you using? I used snes9x ex in the past and it worked fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:41:46 2013 No.1072439 >>1072436 can't remember, it must have been a while back though i haven't tried again but i'm trying to stick to retroarch purely because i hate having 10 apps if i can get away with an all-in-one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:42:15 2013 No.1072440 >>1072373 >gaymes >maladjusted douche I don't think anything could have prevented this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 19:10:51 2013 No.1072578 >>1070108 >bsnes is the most acurate, but SNES9X has filters and turbo buttons and shit which bsnes doesn't have. RetroArch can use bsnes cores and muh filters. Checkmate atheists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 23:01:20 2013 No.1073058 >>1067696 hq4x is deprecated xBR is much better

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 23:02:51 2013 No.1073060 >>1055940

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