/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10578796]

Still the best multiplayer fps

[Anonymous No.10578812]

Sk0oGe was here. CROM FFA for life.

[Anonymous No.10578836]

CS has always been better than this overrated zoomer garbage

[Anonymous No.10578859]

>>10578836
Appreciate the uno reverso but zoomers are born into cs and cs-type games while they usually have no idea about this game, so it makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.10578862]

>>10578859
it's called bait

[Anonymous No.10578887]

>>10578859
Aren't zoomers more into fortnite than cs?

[Anonymous No.10578889]

>>10578859
All the CS players I know are 35+ and married with kids. Zoomers are now playing Quake because they like moving fast and memorizing item pickup timers.

[Anonymous No.10578896]

>>10578889
Every CS2 match I join is full of people below age 25. Although one time I played with cliffy b's wife, asked her where jazz jackrabbit 3 was.

[Anonymous No.10578901]

>>10578896
Oh, I've never played CS2 yet, can't comment on that. Since we are on /vr/ I thought it was implied that I was talking about CS 1.0-1.6

[Anonymous No.10578916]

>>10578901
CS has kept up with the times, 1.6 has fallen out of competitive relevance compared to CS2. It seems the base of CS has a timeless appeal.

The last time I played 1.6 (last Summer) I was on a server with a decent map rotation with a friend and everyone around me was talking about getting checked up at the doctor, their fathers' cancer treatments, how a friend had a stroke. Funny, playing CS2 I feel old, but around those guys I was still young.

[Anonymous No.10578980]

>>10578836
>overrated zoomer garbage
wat? CS beta was in 99. Zoomers weren't old enough.

[Anonymous No.10579126]

>>10578796
that doesn't look like ut2k4

[Anonymous No.10579146]

>>10579126
poor mans q3a

[Anonymous No.10579149]

>>10579126
>>10579146
Not sufficiently epic for my tastes.

[Anonymous No.10579157]

>>10579146
>the 5 year newer video game with an actual campaign, better graphics, ten game modes, vehicles, and mods out the ass is a poor mans q3a
i think you got it backwards, friend. quake hasn't gotten any real love since champions and even that is just quake mixed with overwatch hero power horseshit.

[Anonymous No.10579193]

>>10579157
>quake mixed with overwatch hero power horseshit.
I can't argue with this.

[Anonymous No.10579908]

>>10579157
UT2K4 is a poor man's Q3 because everything you mentioned is meaningless fluff. The actual mechanics of the game are garbage. There's a reason Q3 has had a competitive presence for over 20 years, meanwhile UT2K4 has been all but forgotten. It isn't as cerebral as Q3. The maps are not designed with the same sensibilities. It isn't fast and brutal, the physics sucks, movement is sluggish and floaty, the weapons are impotent. Q3 is a more refined and streamlined game.

I also think it's funny that any time a 2K4 faggot tries to defend this game, they list off all this quantitative bullshit while purposely neglecting everything Q3 provides with Team Arena. Outside of vehicles and a campaign (which is BS anyway because we both know UT2K4 """campaign""" is bot match just like Q3 and every other arena shooter), Q3/TA has everything UT2K4 has and more. Extra weapons, tons of game modes, gigantic maps with bases etc, team powerups, all sorts of modifiers, even "mutators" exist in the form of console commands that let you do shit like lower gravity, fly, increase running speed, spawn bots of different skill levels mid-game, and tons of other stuff. Bizarrr you'd even bring up mods since the modding scene for Q3 is so much bigger it isn't funny.

Q3 has it all. It has the quality, and the quantity. UT2K4 is a slow, casual game with peashooter weapons and no substance. It doesn't hold a fucking candle to Q3.

[Anonymous No.10579912]

>>10578916
>1.6 has fallen out of competitive relevance compared to CS2
Lol yeah, of course, CS 1.6 comp died with CAL around 2010.
>The last time I played 1.6 (last Summer) I was on a server with a decent map rotation with a friend and everyone around me was talking about getting checked up at the doctor, their fathers' cancer treatments, how a friend had a stroke. Funny, playing CS2 I feel old, but around those guys I was still young.
Must have been in Europe? I tried to play CS 1.6 a few years ago in NA, and there were absolutely no servers left to play on, other than SA servers that run 24/7 dust2, infinite money, and are just so bogged down with mods that flashbangs didnt work

[Anonymous No.10579923]

>>10579908
quakeniggers just going on about the theoretical fun of memorizing item spawns and jumping around the map in a loop while forgetting that it's not any fucking fun. Onslaught is fun. Assault is fun. Nobody cared about the tired old game modes by 2004 for a reason. Collectathon "deathmatch" with Q3's soulless peashooter weapons (nice job projecting, Q3's weapons are dogshit feeling compared to 1 and 2) isn't any fun. Really sad to watch, the hostile attitude and inferiority complex of quakeniggers. A grim fate of getting mogged by their immediate predecessor (Doom) and a following rival (UT).

[Anonymous No.10579930]

How do I not get filtered by people knowing maps and spawns?
also why is it called Quake

[Anonymous No.10579939]

>>10579930
The game was originally going to be more of a fantasy title where the protagonist, named Quake, wielded a mystical hammer which caused earthquakes

[Anonymous No.10579942]

>my name is Quake and I'm here to make the earth quake!
Seriously?

[Anonymous No.10579943]

UT = Q3 > Tribes 2 >>> CS

[Anonymous No.10579960]

>>10579923
>abloo bloo bix nood muh collectathons and pickups
in other words, you couldn't git gud and had to convince yourself that anyone with an IQ over 80 isn't having "fun" because the game requires skill -- as if you can't do baby brain shit like play vs 15 AI with low gravity and super weapons in Q3 too. i bet you love watching sports.
>Nobody cared about the tired old game modes by 2004 for a reason
and yet Q3 persists, while Epic didn't even care enough about 2K4 to keep the servers online lmao. almost like Q3 has timeless appeal and your shitty TimeSplitters variant doesn't.
>nice job projecting
reddit response. you have to be an absolute fuckinf g assclown to think Q3's weapons don't feel great. even worse, to say fucking Q1 of all games had better feeling weapons. get the fuck out of here. funny too, that you only compare Q3 to other quakes and don't even deny how shit 2K4's weapons feel because you know it's true.
>Really sad to watch, the hostile attitude and inferiority complex of quakeniggers. >he says while calling people "quakeniggers"
the ironic part here is that 2K4 has an unusually large number of nigger characters in brightly colored clothing. turns out, you were the nigger all along.

Q3 has superior mechanics.
Q3 has more content.
Q3 has a better art style, controls, performance, mods and community.
Q3 is the better game.
cope niggerlover.

[Anonymous No.10580023]

>>10579960
NTA, but how much do you weigh? When was the last time you showered? You seem like an obese greasy incel

[Anonymous No.10580043]

>>10579908
UT'99 is better than 2k4.

[Anonymous No.10580992]

>>10579908
it's kinda funny you bring up "peashooter/importent weapons" when quake needed to throw a fucking DOOT sound on top of your already existing sounds because they were so unsatisfying you couldn't even register when you were hitting someone on your own.

[Anonymous No.10580996]

>>10578796
It's not even the best multiplayer FPS of 1999

[Anonymous No.10580997]

>>10578796
Serious question.

With all the source ports of Q3, why do all the pros like Rapha still use Quake Live when QL has so many issues that the Q3 source ports fixed?

[Anonymous No.10581097]

Yeah, Q3 is basically the perfect multiplayer FPS. If you disagree, you haven't played enough to fully grasp the mechanics.

Strafe jumping allows good players to hugely increase their speed, and it isn't easy. You also have to balance it with aiming and air control.

The weapons also aren't in "tiers" like other FPS games. The shotgun is best in many situations. Plasma is best in corridors for high DPS. Rocket launcher is good at short-medium to medium range. Lightning gun is best at short to short-medium range. Nothing is the "best."

Not only that, but you need to time powerups and route the map. And for every engagement, you need to consider your powerup stack, what you think your opponent has, the weapons you have and the best ranges, and the weapons they have and the range they want to engage in.

It's surprisingly complex once you start implementing all these mechanics.

[Anonymous No.10581156]

I like all the arena FPS games of the approximate era. UT had more content, but Q3 perfected the feeling of just walking and jumping (not even getting into advanced movement). It just feels so damn good and responsive.

[Anonymous No.10581568]

instaunlagged railjumping railgun only best way to play

[Anonymous No.10581867]

>>10581097
>you disagree, you haven't played enough to fully grasp the mechanics.
Bingo. What Quake 3 nails are the mechanics. The feeling of movement is fluid, the weapons all perfectly complement one another, and the maps are designed to reward speed, reflex, movement, timing and deep knowledge of how various areas of the environment are linked. There is no FPS ever made that is as "perfect" in its systems as Q3A. If you want to experience the absolute best of competitive shooting, this is it.

[Anonymous No.10582883]

>>10579157
Unreal was always more fun than quake

The first quake on pc multi-player was though

[Anonymous No.10582890]

>>10579146
They cost the same and Unreal is more fun

earlier fps were more fun than quake too like heretic and doom

Unreal feels less sloppy and best controls to me everytime I play either

[Anonymous No.10584016]

>>10580997
because quake 3 players are retarded

[Anonymous No.10584068]

At least everyone agrees that UT had the best soundtrack

[Anonymous No.10584150]

>>10584016
Yeah I guess, don't really get why the tournament community still uses Quake Live besides them all complaining about it and the input problems and shit it has

[Anonymous No.10585634]

>>10579930
That was the name of id's D&D campaign, they originally planned it as an action RPG of sorts.

[Anonymous No.10587480]

>>10585634
Didn't know this.

[Anonymous No.10588269]

>>10585634
based

[Post Officers No.10588292]

>>10578980
>no cyan doomguy
Are you even into doom?