/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.10570095]

What's the worst port of a good game?

Hard mode: No games that are in name only and play entirely different.

Harder mode: No DOOM.

[Anonymous No.10570098]

>>10570095

[Anonymous No.10570104]

dos port of tmnt cannot be beaten due to an impossible jump

[Anonymous No.10570145]

strider on pc engine. not a bad game but horribly disappointing. They turned an A+ game into a B game
>spent over 4 years in development limbo
>requires the arcade card but has no noticeable benefits
>runs in 30 fps with flicker all over because of the weird hit boxes
>redbook audio sounds great but half the soundtrack is cut
>multilingual language removed, all cutscenes are japanese
>only 1 new level instead of 2 as promised, and it's pretty meh except for the 2 bosses
>lack of parallax except on airship level
>color pallette is fucking putrid. all the explosions are a mustard yellow

total shame. NEC Avenue could port cps-1 games fine...forgotten worlds destroys the genesis version in every aspect

[Anonymous No.10570154]

obligatory: atari 2600 pacman

[Anonymous No.10570190]

>>10570098
t. graphicsfag

[Anonymous No.10570384]

[Anonymous No.10570394]

>>10570098
L ao thats not even the pc port

[Anonymous No.10570419]

>>10570098
>>10570394

[Anonymous No.10570460]

>>10570095
Strider for the Master System is garbage.
Golden Axe for the MS also sucks.

[Anonymous No.10570852]

>>10570419
technically it's a different game.

[Anonymous No.10571364]

[Anonymous No.10571371]

>>10570095

[Anonymous No.10571373]

>>10571371
This isn't a bad game, as long as you don't know that it's Pac-Man. I played the heck out of it back in the day.

[Anonymous No.10572000]

>>10570095
I mean it had more buttons it wouldn't be terrible

[Anonymous No.10572003]

>>10570095
The Lion King on NES and Game Boy not only has Bible verses, for some reason, it also has "Boy Love" messages hidden in it, controls like garbage and you can't jump from below a platform like in the proper versions, you hit your head, the collision detection also manages to be worse and it's just unpleasant to play.

[Anonymous No.10572160]

>vita

[Anonymous No.10572275]

>>10570104
you can just walk over it

[Anonymous No.10572283]

>>10570095
Shadowman on PS1.
Absolutely unplayable.

[Anonymous No.10572363]

>>10571364
its shocking telenet was allowed to port this. only the title screen looks good...even the redbook audio is bad and corny

they also ported columns to pc engine, which wasn't "great" but compared to this? half decent

[Anonymous No.10572384]

You should see how badly the home computer ports were handled. Tiertex was responsible for these abominable ports

[Anonymous No.10572390]

>>10570095
Here's a must play for those that want to suffer.
Just getting through first three stages is an achievement in itself.

[Anonymous No.10572412]

Saturn Quake

[Anonymous No.10572416]

>>10570095
Forget MKA try playing Mortal Kombat on GB Color.. that one was not so great.

[Anonymous No.10572438]

The later half of the playstation port of WarCraft 2. Beyond The Dark Portal doesn't fuck around, using a controller is just too slow.

[Anonymous No.10572445]

Aria of Sorrow port for phones made in java

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yIrjplYUx-A

[Anonymous No.10572449]

>>10570104
TMHTs win again. N turtles btfo.

[Anonymous No.10572464]

>>10570095
On par with R-Type 3 with the worst GBA port:
>screen is way too zoomed in, making some parts impossible to predict
>most of the boss roster got cut in half, leaving only eight bosses. Not even Great Thing is in this port
>god awful remixes of Darius, Darius 2, Gaiden and G Darius's soundtrack

[Anonymous No.10572981]

Sonic the Hedgehog's GBA port has to be up there. What a disaster.

[Anonymous No.10573412]

Do ports of /vr/ games to non /vr/ consoles count, if so Silent Hill 2 HD is embarrassing.
>>10572000
Yes it would, MKA's problems do not stem from the lack of buttons.

[Anonymous No.10573418]

>>10572275
No, different gap size, the PAL version of that DOS port was revised and can be beaten, but the NTSC release cannot.

[Anonymous No.10573461]

>>10572003
Just checked Cutting Room Floor and holy shit you're right

[Anonymous No.10573464]

>>10572160
Could any beautiful OpenGOAL adjacent autists potentially grab the source code to this game and create a native res, 60FPS port?

[Anonymous No.10573473]

>take game where the entire point of the game is its OST, choreography, and cinematic experience
>port it to the GBA

[Anonymous No.10573478]

>>10572981
Is Stealth's GBA proof of concept port open source? I'd love to see someone finish it and make the whole game. Matter of fact, the entire quadrilogy ought to be on GBA, plus 3D and CD.

[Anonymous No.10573504]

>>10570098
Cry more nintendy

[Anonymous No.10573528]

>>10572412
That’s a fine port, built from the ground up and doesn’t look bad

[Anonymous No.10573547]

>>10570104
Unless you know the "secret ninja magic" to warp straight to the rooftops.

[Anonymous No.10573574]

>>10573473
More like a shitty dancing gif simulator. What the fuck were they thinking

[Anonymous No.10573593]

>>10573473
i wanted to post it but it's so shitty that i wasnt sure it would even count as a port.

[Anonymous No.10573694]

>>10570095
rainbow six for playstation.

[Anonymous No.10573767]

>>10573464
there's no excuse for how badly this runs. based on how easily you can get the vita version up to 30 fps with some basic mods, im sure that a properly done port can get up to 60 fps. but id imagine that would still be a very big effort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf4oGFGkREM

[Anonymous No.10573781]

>>10573461
It's just a quote from Luke 18:16 KJV. Of course, Catholics took it a bit too seriously.

[Anonymous No.10573825]

>>10572003
>disney game has hidden NAMBLA messages
you can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.10573886]

>>10573528
It's a cool slide show presentation of a game

[Anonymous No.10573956]

MD version of Wonder Boy III. Graphics are much worse than arcade and it's upstaged by the PC engine version in almost every way sans parallax scrolling.

[Anonymous No.10573980]

>>10570095
Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra.
The Snes port is not only slow and clunky, but teeming with glitches and poor design choices.
Some of the worst include:
The maximum party size being reduced to six AND the number of items you can carry has been reduced from 18 to 14.

Worse yet, items can only be traded among party members with the "discard" command. Each time you must decline to permanently discard the item and only then can you transfer it, one item at a time!

That last one is especially problematic because the system will not allow you to "discard" key items. This means any plot item a character picks up becomes a PERMANENT part of their inventory! The same limited inventory used for their equipment!

Personality stat gains from items are glitched too. Instead of raising Personality, they increase Intelligence instead. The seriously handicaps Clerics and Paladins.

Speaking of Clerics, the "Raise Dead" spell is supposed to lower Endurance by one point. Due to a bug, it instead reduces Endurance down to just one point (HOLY SHIT!)

AFAIK, these and several more bugs and faults only appear in the Snes port. Such a pisspoor effort, I can only wonder why they even bothered.

[Anonymous No.10574005]

>>10570145
Strider's Master System port was even worse

[Anonymous No.10574020]

>>10573956
>Graphics are much worse than arcade
they decided to re-draw most of the sprites for some reason

[Anonymous No.10575323]

>>10573956
Worse scrolling too. Sometimes, Sega didn't even care.

[Anonymous No.10575405]

>>10571371
>>10571373
weren't this and donkey kong purposefully made terrible on atari to sell the colecovision? i remember hearing about someone making a proper accurate port of donkey kong on the 2600.

[Anonymous No.10575456]

>>10575405
It's more that they had no space or time. Back then games were made by one person and it'd be like "You have a 4K ROM and six weeks." They'd spend the first week or two making the game, realize it's 24K, and then spend the rest of the time cutting it down.

[Anonymous No.10575940]

>>10575405
>weren't this and donkey kong purposefully made terrible on atari to sell the colecovision?

doubtful. Atari made a number of arcade ports on colecovision themselves, and they were excellent ports (including pacman, though that was unreleased)

[Anonymous No.10576780]

>>10570104
>>10573418
Yes you can, there's a cheat code you can enter to skip over that part.

[Anonymous No.10576791]

>>10575940
>including pacman, though that was unreleased

Someone did a better homebrew CV Pac-Man that directly copied the code loop from the arcade game so it runs completely accurately while that Atari port was just made by playing a cab and is not accurate.

[Anonymous No.10576820]

>>10576780
Needing a cheat code to bypass an area isn't "beating" it though, it's just cheating over bad design.

[Anonymous No.10577026]

>>10576791
The lack of the proper maze is what really hurts Atari Pac-Man. The maze is what makes Pac-Man Pac-Man and not one of it's clones like K.C. Munchkin.

[Anonymous No.10577127]

Pac-Man World on Game Boy Advance
A 3D platformer was reimagined into an isometric platformer with faithful level design, so this isn't a "same in name only" case like most GBA "ports" of console games.

[Anonymous No.10578371]

This shit. Wow, it's a beat em up called Bad Dudes so it must be 2 players, right? Nope. Would have forgot about this game entirely if not for the amazing intro cutscene, because the game play is garbage and it's a single player console beat em up. Well, I think it might have been 2 player but not co op, changing turns on death. Then like over a decade later I download a mame romset and I'm looking through it and I see none other than Bad Dudes vs. DragonNinja. Could it possibly be the same Bad Dudes(well Dude, because only one of them os on screen at a time) that needed to rescue the president? It actually is, to mu surprise the NES game was a port. So I fire it up. Wow, it's not terrible. It's decent, a little repetitive but sounds and looks pretty good for what I'm guessing is late 80s. Not incredibly hard or unfair. Bad Dudes on the nes was one of my first beat em ups and it almost turned me off of the style. The NES version isn't inherently bad, it's just boring and the difficulty feels cheap, and everything looks and sounds like shit.

[Anonymous No.10578396]

NES Boulder Dash aka a complete mutilation of a classic.

>was clearly not based on the original source code as the game logic behaves entirely differently
>bunch of chibi graphics and music
>much lower difficulty level so this was clearly made to be easy for Japanese 6 year olds
>unnecessary SMB3-style game overworld map
>four new levels aside from the original 12, none of them thematically consistent with the original ones

[Anonymous No.10578403]

C64 Hard Drivin'. Seriously, why?

[Anonymous No.10578405]

>these awful redrawn sprites

[Anonymous No.10578410]

[Anonymous No.10578413]

Ballblazer C64 and Famicom. That game was not built for the kind of graphics setup they had.

[Anonymous No.10578430]

>>10578410

[Anonymous No.10578441]

Miner 2049er Gameboy. Another modernization of a classic that should have really never been attempted.

[Anonymous No.10578450]

Amiga version of X-COM. That was a bad idea.

[Anonymous No.10578594]

NES 1942

[Anonymous No.10578689]

The game that made me learn PS2 is less powerful than GameCube and harder to port to. The music is ruined and sounds totally different. More functional than they say but I'd rather play the GameCube version.

[Anonymous No.10578762]

The Genesis port of Double Dragon 2. So bad it's considered an all time kusoge port in Japan.

[Anonymous No.10578883]

>>10570145
It's kind of funny how the new level is disabled by default and you have to go into the options menu to enable it. NEC Avenue must have known that it sucked.

[Anonymous No.10578905]

All home computer ports of Street Fighter II.

[Anonymous No.10579117]

>>10573478
The android version of 1, 2, and CD were recompiled. Not sure if people could work from that, but I'd guess that it's the most likely chance.

[Anonymous No.10580074]

>>10578689
Wasn't this port borderline unplayable because of the slowdown? Never tested it myself, just what I've read.

[Anonymous No.10581769]

>>10578762
You know it's gonna be bad when the original developer's logo isn't on it.

[Anonymous No.10581831]

>>10578762
It would be unfair to call it "bad" in the sense that Amiga DD was bad but it's really just a NES game with some more colors and even runs in 256 pixel mode.

[Anonymous No.10582274]

>>10570104
European version of this fixed it.

[Anonymous No.10583110]

>>10572981
2006 SEGA really couldn't get anything right, it's downright impressive how they managed to take their classic title and make it awful on hardware that could run it fine, just look at Sonic Advance, I mean, there's no excuse...

[Anonymous No.10583154]

>>10581831
The PCE CD was more of a remake of the NES version, this one is a lackluster port of the arcade one, plays and looks really bad.

[Anonymous No.10583542]

>>10570095
>What's the worst port of a good game?
Was it ported to the ZX Spectrum? If so there's your answer.

[Anonymous No.10583618]

Any Sierra game ported to Amiga was usually trash.

[Anonymous No.10584031]

>>10572003
I love how the NES version doesn't even have adult Simba or a fight against Scar, it just sort of ends after Simba runs away, it's downright unfinished, and it looks like a bootleg aswell.

[Anonymous No.10584186]

>>10584031
It's sometimes very hard to tell the difference between the last batch of NES games and bootlegs. TMNT Tournament Fighters is another one.

[Anonymous No.10584993]

>>10573781
yea idk about that
for one, "boy love" is listed on its own with no religious context, and for two it's visible in game unlike the bible quotes, and for three it's hidden behind a key combo and ciphered in the rom

[Anonymous No.10585037]

>>10584993
Yeah, I didn't see that bit. That's pretty damning.

[Anonymous No.10585110]

>>10584993
Why do you think this programmer added this into the game? His name is clearly in the end credits. Seems really fucking weird.

[Anonymous No.10585165]

>>10585110
couldn't say, maybe just to show off to his BL mates that he did

[Anonymous No.10585298]

Its anyone of the handheld MK games, those are so fucking shit they're pretty much on par with those tiger handheld LCD trash MK "games".

[Anonymous No.10585425]

>>10585110
As a programmer, it sounds to me like it was random placeholder text he was using while experimenting with different aspects of the game. "Boy Love" was testing out the text cipher and the bible verse (one of them, at least) was testing an alternate text display method.

Most likely using "Boy" and "Love" because he needed an eight character word containing a space, so he just put down the first three and four letter words that popped into his head. (I've used things like "four" and "knife" when I needed a random word, just because they happened to pop into my head when I needed them)

[Anonymous No.10585567]

>>10585425
that's quite a stretch, even ignoring the words themselves, why would placeholder text be accessible behind two cheat codes and a cipher not used anywhere else in the game?
the bible verses could be argued like that, considering they're just in the rom but no longer connected to anything (the tcrf page explains how they would be displayed, but the code around them was changed so they no longer "work", which is different to this boy love text)
not to say it's impossible though, taking into account it shows up as a skill level, maybe they planned on a secret skill level which was never completed (the game itself is very unfinished), though i don't know why a secret skill level would need obfuscation in the rom
the tcrf page doesn't say if that "skill level" actually changes gameplay at all, though it would not be very useful information considering the unfinished nature of the game

[Anonymous No.10586128]

>>10573980
Holy crap this one sounds awful.
The inventory system sounds sadistic.

[Anonymous No.10586173]

>>10578405
disgusting

[Anonymous No.10586942]

This pile of slow running crap that runs worse than the gameboy version

[Anonymous No.10586948]

[Anonymous No.10586992]

>>10585567
The answer is elsewhere in the ROM data:
>TED CAMERON
It looks like the developer was trying to hide a friend's name in the game as an Easter Egg and was playing around with different methods to do it. BOY LOVE was probably testing whether he could hide text in the game without it being noticed by other developers (which explains why it's such a strange phrase, since he'd want someone to ask about it if they found it). Ultimately it looks like he settled for just typing it into an unused line of code.

[Anonymous No.10587047]

A for effort, I guess...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iNSqY4qjSU

[Anonymous No.10587052]

the first screen says it all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HkwEdW6x6Y

[Anonymous No.10587069]

>>10587047
I've played clones which are just text characters with a framerate of 1 on JPCs. This is a top tier attempt in comparison.
MZ-700 Mappy without PCG support also fits neatly in the "completely functional but why?" tier.

[Anonymous No.10587208]

>>10586942
Any port not on a 32-bit console was a pile of steaming crap. The only port worth playing is the Japanese Saturn port

[Anonymous No.10587209]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKfkZCvdqqY

[Anonymous No.10587219]

>>10586992
Weird, anyway. He could've hidden the words "FUCK YOU" instead. It'd still be strange for a Nintendo game at the time, and wouldn't have any pedo connection. It's as if the developer mind was too familiar with the term ultimately used.

[Anonymous No.10587235]

>>10587052
If you set the video playback speed to 1.75, it's not too bad for a Game & Watch game.

[Anonymous No.10587309]

>>10581769
>You know it's gonna be bad when the original developer's logo isn't on it.

many arcade ports back then were licensed out to other companies, they usually didn't have the original dev's logo on it, just the name.

SEGA did a bunch of ports early on that turned out well (like capcom games, or truxton), and even moreso with NEC Avenue/Hudson on pce (they had to take out a lot of licenses)

[Anonymous No.10587552]

>>10585425
>>10585567
>>10585110
>>10584993
Does it really have to be something sinister? In all likeliness it was probably a joke by a disgruntled programmer. It's an absurd thing to include in the lion king and would make for a good joke over beers to tell the boys years after the game came out.

[Anonymous No.10587583]

>>10570095
Rayman DS is high up there IMO. The frame rate is terrible, there is a lot of input lag, and playing a 3D platformer designed for analog sticks on a D-pad feels just awful. Technically you can use the "analog stick" on the touchscreen, but to work properly it requires the thumb stylus accessory that was only sold with OG DS models. Good luck finding one nowadays.

[Anonymous No.10587591]

[Anonymous No.10589271]

>>10570095
>What's the worst port of a good game?
Spider-Man vs. The Kingpin (SMS/SGG)
It's an 8-Bit port of an originally 16-Bit title, so it has a lot to prove from the get go... and it fails at it so miserably. It controls well and looks good if you take the hardware into account, it's got quite a similar structure and bosses to the original, so I thought it all looked good! However when I really got into it and realized how awful both the level design and enemy behavior was... it just sucked.

I think what really kills this one is that there are no lives, nor continues, you have a single health bar, that you can refill by resting at home, which will take time off from your real time 24minutes timer, it's a short experience, but a terrible one, also the Symbiote/Venom suit being locked to its hardest difficulty setting, appropriately called "Nightmare" mode, is downright sadistic aswell.

[Anonymous No.10589548]

shadow dancer on master system
unlike the genesis version, its a port of the arcade version

nothing wrong with this, except it only looks good in screenshots. it plays horribly in motion

[Anonymous No.10589631]

>>10570098
SOUL

[Anonymous No.10589643]

>>10570095
Wasn't this port so bad that EGM gave it complete zero ratings, whereas their lowest-rated game prior was Superman 64?

[Anonymous No.10589657]

>>10575405
DK was by Coleco, and yeah, it was shut to make the Colecovision look better. Pac-Man, however, was all Atari, and came out shit because it was rushed and they cheaped out by not using a bigger cart size.

[Anonymous No.10590182]

>>10572275
you are scum...

[Anonymous No.10590765]

>>10589657
ah no DK sucked for the same reason--Coleco only wanted to pay for a 4k cartridge. the programmer said that was what happened.

[Anonymous No.10590798]

>>10570095
>MK3
>Good
Yeah no. It was objectively the worst in the series with some of the most awful finishers and lazy character designs. The combo mechanic was certainly nice but it's the finishers that really make or break a good MK game. MK2 was the absolute peak of the original trilogy. Somehow MK4 though gets shit on despite being the best aspects of MK3 and MK2, while MK3 gets all the praise.

[Anonymous No.10591520]

>>10590798
>a gameplay mechanic was certainly nice but a post match cutscene really makes or breaks a good MK game

[Anonymous No.10592956]

>>10589271
On the topic of Spider-Man, we had Spider-Man: Return of the Sinister Six on NES, which was just fine, but nothing great, and it got ports on SEGA Master System and Game Gear. It should've been either better, or at least on par, they had quite a superior hardware afterall, but enemy behavior, or lack of, and also bosses AI and behavior, made it way more frustrating, the jumpkick sucked too.

[Anonymous No.10592962]

>>10570095
MZ-700 port of Space Harrier
https://youtu.be/cs-4Zu0DN2g?si=YyCnuyvk_H9UAoHA

[Anonymous No.10592992]

Literally every playstation game ported to the Shiturn. God that console was such fucking garbage.

[Anonymous No.10593048]

>>10570095
Hard Mode accepted
Harder Mode Declined
>Strider on ZX Spectrum
>Alternate Reality on Apple ][
>Pac man on Atari 2600 (not counting Homebrew versions)
>Doom 1 on 3DO, followed by the SNES port
>Ballblazer on ZX Spectrum 48K and Famicom.
>Marble Madness on ZX Spectrum, & Amstrad CPC,
>Alien Syndrome on 48k ZX Spectrum
>Saturn Megaman X3
>Dr Mario on Game Boy.
>Elite on Acorn Electron, (and maybe) Amstrad CPC
>Commando on NES
>Chiller on NES
>Chrono Trigger on PS1
>GTA 2 for PS1

[Anonymous No.10593067]

>>10593048
>Saturn Megaman X3
I played the PS1 version and that was bad enough. What makes the Saturn version worse than PS1 (or 3DO, for that matter)?

[Anonymous No.10593081]

>>10593067
PS1 bad? Only if you don't like the music. Since the Saturn is forced to a wide resolution, the game has borders and the main gameplay looks off. Also there are more slowdowns that the PS1 didn't have. At least the movies aren't choppy (the PS1 FMV has framerate issues for some reason, as the extracted files play normally). Also the 3DO one was cancelled.

[Anonymous No.10593085]

Grand Theft Auto for the gameboy color, it's not even that I think the port would be terrible if it weren't for the lack of inputs on the gameboy or the small screen with basically same field of view. If you haven't played an actual gbc that's not front lit in a while you might not appreciate how hard it can be to track small objects on the screen, and on foot you and your enemies are all small objects.

[Anonymous No.10593145]

>>10586948
Did this have link cable multiplayer?

[Anonymous No.10593407]

>>10570095
It really is astounding how they took a moderately successful arcade fighter and turned it into one of the biggest piles of shit in the SNES library

[Anonymous No.10593417]

>>10593407
Add to that the butchering that was Captain America and the Avengers by Realtime Associates, what a poor job they did. And on the other side, there is that awful World Heroes port for Genesis made by a western SEGA branch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWmfam1QWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IwBnmLHK0g

[Anonymous No.10593515]

>>10593407
At least the kids with consoles got the semblance of a real game. We on home computers got FUCKED

https://youtu.be/jw5a0JQAfWo?si=eAhPREyCwio6FOQj

[Anonymous No.10593550]

>Played Spiderman 2 on GC at a cousins house and loved it
>Tell my dad to buy it for me
>Dad brings me a burnt disc that said Spiderman 2
This is where I learned that PC ports can be different from console ports. I still beat the fucking game, because I had nothing else to play.

[Anonymous No.10593596]

>>10593550
Did you even have your own Cringecube?

[Anonymous No.10593641]

>>10593596
https://youtu.be/2asDPQrv0Nw?si=4E1WGrFmCwc-FSjS

[Anonymous No.10593886]

>>10593596
I think I had both a GC and Xbox at the time, but he didn't know that the PC version was different. I would eventually get it for Xboz later.