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This game sucks and I am tired of pretending that it does not just because it is Mario
>hurr durr you got filtered
>DUDE IT IS ACTUALLY A ROM HACK

I want to actually talk about this game in depth. It is one of those super weird NES games that existed for a very short amount of time with weird NES logic. Most platformers are simply: Go from left to right but this game tries to be different and I admire that and it fascinates me. That is why I am trying this game for years now but yes it does filter me. Climbing up shit is just shit. Instead of locking onto vines you can still move left and right (for whatever weird reason) and I will jump onto a vine and instantly move off of it thus falling down, it is so annoying and I wish there was a rom hack for it.
Also I assumed Princess Peach would be the best character because she can float but then there are passages she can not reach because she can not jump so high. What's it with all the hidden stuff in this game?
Really this game is a mystery to me and that is why I always come back but can you give me some advice or anything instead of
>get gud
because I am trying for 30 years now or something and I never know what the fuck I am even supposed to do.

>> No.10564772

How are you getting filtered by this game? Literally go right or up, it’s not hard. If you cant go right any farther, try going left
>waaaaah peach can’t jump high enough
Every level can be beaten by every character, he’ll it’s a requirement for the best ending in doki doki panic. If you want a better jump use mario or Luigi

God help you when you get to the desert if you’re having this much trouble

>> No.10564775

i dont understand why mario slides so much in mario games. i dont think i like them at all.

>> No.10564781

I love it.
If you seriously struggle to beat it or knowing what to do, then yeah, get fucking good

>> No.10564846

>>10564767
You're seriously struggling to beat a fucking mario game for 30 years? jesus christ op, just play the fucking game and get good at it, it's that simple.

>> No.10564864

>>10564775
It's because you're not a momentum master with nerves of steel.

>> No.10564873

>>10564767
>filtered by the best mario on the nes
how

>> No.10564883

>I know, I'm going to make a thread dedicated to a game I'll hate
The absolute state of nu /vr/

>> No.10564890

>>10564775
it's called momentum, in real life if you instantly stopped after sprinting your legs would be broken.

>> No.10564946

its the best one

>> No.10564948

>>10564767
>I am tired of pretending that it does not
If you truly believe this, why were you pretending in the first place?

>> No.10564954

I decided to revisit this game like half a year ago and played it for some friends on stream. My autistic rule was to not use any warps, no guides (looking up where bonuses are), and obviously no save states. Spent some nights grinding it out over the course of a couple of weeks starting from 1-1 each time before I finally beat it. As a kid I got filtered at 3-3 and rightfully so. Took me a while to figure out even as an adult. I used Toad not for any advantage but because he looked dumb. The thing that made this game way easier was reloading rooms to kill enemies and force a heart to spawn. The stars were also nice if you want to rush through some of the more tedious sections. Used that a lot during the digging sections because after starting over for the 15th time you get really impatient. The later bosses are easy which is nice. Throwing away the key whenever the room becomes too much while a phanto is chasing you is helpful.

>> No.10564957

>>10564890
Holy fuck, let me try it real quick

>> No.10565053

>>10564767

Among old Mario games, this is one of the shorter, easier ones. If you can't finish it for 30 years then... give up.

I've finished it many times and it never even occurred to me that there might be the slightest danger of jumping onto a vine and then instantly climbing sideways off it by accident. You're in some kind of basement level on the gaming talent scale. Maybe just seek fulfillment in other venues until you die (ideally happily and of old age), and then, with luck, become reincarnated as someone who possesses a normal level of inborn talent for playing video games.

>> No.10565063

It's the best Mario game and most boomers have fond memories of it even more than SMB3.

>> No.10565296

>>10564767
You suck at playing the game.

Good thing you didn't have to pay for it.

Makes it a lot easier for you to talk trash about how interested you are with giving up & complaining about your inability to learn.

>> No.10566143 [DELETED] 

OP triggered the tendies hard kek

>> No.10566163
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>>10564767
WHat where they thinking!?

>> No.10566236

>>10564767
>stumped by children's entertainment

>> No.10566310

>>10564767
>get gud
I honestly don't know what you're finding difficult in it. I was never a big Mario fan. We had the games, but to this day I have never beat Mario 1 or 3. Not because they filter me per se, more that they never interested me enough to devote the time to learning the later levels.
Mario 2 is the only game in the franchise I've finished not one, but countless times. To me it feels so much more like Kirby than Mario, nothing is really that hard it's just sort of a fun 2D romp.

>> No.10566316

>>10564767
>Popular thing was actually.. LE BAD!
This has got to be a paid de-motivation PsyOP, its becoming too obvious.

>> No.10566354

>>10564767
Just don't hold left or right when you climb. Grabbing a vine cancels your sideways momentum.

Peach can beat every level (as can Toad), and characters can do a high jump if you crouch for a bit and wait for them to start flashing.

>> No.10567025

>>10564767
Another case of Mario Madness.. shame really

>> No.10567119

>>10564767
>another filtered zoomer writes 1500 unread words

>> No.10567127

i beat this game when i was 6. phanto are scary but its easy as fuck.

>> No.10567128

>>10564767
Dude, there's no best character.

You run, jump, climb, ride a critter, pick up, throw.

Must have beat this game over 500 times.

You just keep playing it until you learn.

There's no problem. Believe me.

There's no reason to go from left to right on a vine.

Don't take something small and turn it into something big.

What you supposed to do is get to the end.

See no problem. Be the solution and wake up from the dream.

>> No.10567168

Everyone will fall of a vine easily...IF YOU SUCK.

If you want to be balanced, be Mario.

If you want to be able to jump the highest, be Luigi.

If you want to be able to pick up things really fast and dig really fast be toad

If you want to float, because you suck, be princess.. the girl. isn't she pretty? What a disgrace.

The more you play the game the more you will fafo that it's almost absolutely true that there is not one place one character can reach that the other one can't.

But you're probably worried about getting a game over.

Keep picking up every plant till you find that potion. And for the bonus you just tap as fast as you can and before you know it you'll have so many extra lives you won't even count them anymore!!

>> No.10567213

>>10565063
Baby boomers don't play video games, you mean gen x'ers you dumb dick

>> No.10567757

>>10564883
>I'm gonna make a thread about a game I hate because I'm 17 and just played bubble bobble for the first time and after 11 minutes I decided it wasn't as good as HALO 2 which my cousin let me play when I was 6
Ftfy

>> No.10567821

>>10566310
>Not Because they filter me
>But because I don't like them enough to devote time to beating them
That's the definition of filtered

>> No.10567845

i prefer the remakes because they're prettier. it was my first choice when All-Stars (sans World) was in the SNES in the locked drawer at daycare. i didn't like Lost Levels because the medal looked like a burger and i didn't like burgers. they're eaten by fat kids who play sitting hunched forward and farting

>> No.10567894

>>10564767
Actually, it's the best Mario game even if it wasn't a Mario game first. Cope.

>> No.10567987
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>this game sucks because you can move left and right on the vines and peach can't reach some areas (no examples) :(

>> No.10567997

>>10567213
My parents were born in the early '60s and bought this game around the time I was born. You don't know shit little nigga.

>> No.10568028

>>10564767
My mother loved this game. But it was the SNES version as we had Mario All-Star. She obviously loved to play as Peach and even finished the game playing her.

>> No.10568649

>>10566310

I have a feeling that you don't know what you are taking about and that you don't even know the game.

Level 2: you have to jump on the magic carpet. If you don't move fast enough with it it will disappear in thin air and you die. Asshole design.

Then you progress and there is a LOCKED door. You can't progress any further and you can't go back and that's where I'm stuck in fucking level 2.

This is a shit game where you need a guide so fuck you all. It's as shit as Castlevania 2 or Zelda 2, those weird games we got for a while until NES games stopped being retarded

>> No.10568658

>>10564767
>What's it with all the hidden stuff in this game?
That's my favorite part of the game, it's packed with secrets. Cool ones like falling down a waterfall to find a hidden door or carrying the potions to the right vase to find a warp.

>> No.10568669

>>10568028
My mom loved it too, it was one of the few games she actually got into. Eventually she got so good that the neighborhood kids would watch her beat it when they came to hang out at our house. She almost always used Mario.

The other game she liked was Tiny Toon Adventures.

>> No.10568703

>>10568649
Did you try going into the nearby vases?

>> No.10568738

>>10568649

The first locked door in the game huh? Damn dude, you're like the real-life version of the AVGN character, except far less patient I guess. (Or you're just trolling.)

>> No.10568745

>>10564767
imagine getting filtered by a game that literal 5 year olds completed with ease

>> No.10568786

>>10568649
Ok now I'm sure you're trolling, there's no way someone can be this braindead.

>> No.10568869

>>10568649
>have a feeling that you don't know what you are taking about and that you don't even know the game.

Weird. That was my post and it feels to me like you just watched clips on youtube or something because it's hard to imagine an actual human being that terrible.

>> No.10568875

>>10568028
My respects to your mom. This isn't an easy game (though OP definitely got filtered)

>> No.10568876

did you know that smb2 was actually a completely different game with some sprite swaps?

>> No.10568901

>>10568876
Oh my, I didn't! Do tell me more.

>> No.10568962

>>10564957
This man has been sat down his whole life.

>> No.10568987

Personally, I think it’s cool to see the influence Doki Doki Panic has on later Mario titles as well as an iterative. Honestly speaking, Zelda II has Super Mario Bros. DNA baked into it.

Can’t offer much more advice apart from practice. I got good at farming lives. Get as many diamonds and coins as possible in the early game, play slots and enter the end game with a good amount of lives.

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>>10564767
you are horrible at video games and should probably leave this topic behind you, maybe collecting chromosomes would be a better fit for you.

>> No.10569252

>>10564767
based

>> No.10569272

>>10568703

I've tried to throw stuff on them. So I'm supposed to stand on them and press down??? Seriously how should one have figured out that they are like pipes and you can just go down? The shape doesn't indicate it. It's a vase that normally has a bottom so you would only trap yourself in it.
Nothing gives it away so this is some kind of weird Nintendo kneel there and wait logic. It's terrible game design and you defend it especially since the door seems to be a trap or what????
I mean super Metroid traps you at first and the only way to get out is the wall jump but you even see some creature doing it and then you just copy it. This is good game design. Mario 2 is just awful and you assholes don't even tell me what to do because it's way easier to shout
>idiot
Then to actually give away the solution.
>>10568738
>>10568786
>>10568869

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>>10569272
yeah yeah it was funny the first posts but the joke lost steam, you can move on to making other bait threads now.

>> No.10569609

>>10569376

How is that a bait thread? I think you people are all trolling or just really retarded or love sucking Nintendo dick? Maybe all of the above.
I don't care that you call me shit at video games. I just want a serious and logical discussion. So answer me this:

There is s fucking door, it's locked
And the solution is to press down while standing on a vase?????
How should anyone figure that out.

Also another point: the first time you fly with the magic carpet you don't know that it will just vanish in thin air and that you have to hurry up so you will die. That is bad game design.

But as usual you guys completely ignore what is being said and can't even comment on those two simple things because it would mean that you have to admit that this game is shit so you don't respond and just say some copy paste bullshit you can literally reply with with ANY topic. I'm not even sure if I'm talking to humans or if it's bots given the fact you give generic off topic replies.

>> No.10569629

>>10569609
>How should anyone figure that out.
Reading the manual (easy to find online now) or trying buttons. Or if you played other Mario games and know about going down pipes, you might think to try something similar.

>> No.10569687

>>10569609
You should've at least tried going into the case like a pipe. There's not much else to do at the start of the level and you obviously need to find a key somewhere. How long were you stuck before you gave up and came here to bitch?

>> No.10569932

>>10569687
>How long were you stuck before you gave up and came here to bitch?

OP has already told us: 30 years.

>> No.10569951

>>10569609
I don't love Nintendo. I don't even particularly like Mario. But 2 is BY FAR the easiest out of the first 3 by far and is probably a contender for the easiest Mario game ever. It's like you've never even played a game to figure out what to do. If this isn't a long winded bait thread it sounds like you have some serious cognitive issue.

Can you tell us at least a few other games you have played that didn't confuse you?

>> No.10569972

>>10569951
Stop engaging zoomers, just behead them.

>> No.10569989

>>10567821
Lol no it isn't

>> No.10569992

>>10569972
Assuming he's telling the truth he's been stuck on the game for 30 years which doesn't make him a zoomer, just an actual retard.

>> No.10569996

>>10569992
>Assuming he's telling the truth
I never assume this.

>> No.10570126

>>10569629
>Reading the manual

That's why I asked if someone can point me in the right direction and give advice instead of just get good because as you can tell I've never read the manual. It would have helped a lot.

What else is there to know???
Also this means the door is a trap to fool you.

>> No.10570146

There is literally no point in engaging this piece of shit when every single one of his idiot trollposts has been addressed and dissected to death in countless other threads.

>what do you mean kids enjoyed exploring and pressing buttons and figuring out how things worked and looking inside of pipes and urns for secrets, there's no quest marker so blah blah blah
it's just dumb fucking bait and fuck you for even making me waste this much time outlining it yet again

Report these threads for "trolling outside of /b/", they are not genuine, their only purpose is zoomer resentment garbage.

>> No.10570175

>>10569951
>But 2 is BY FAR the easiest out of the first 3

No. 1 and 2 is straight forward. Go from the left to the right. That is fucking all there is to do like millions of other games that exist while Mario 2 is a weird one in a million game.

Serious question: name other games LIKE MARIO 2.

Like I've said before that weirdness is what always makes me come back but the weirdness is also why I struggle so much.
I mean plucking turnips and throwing them at enemies? Fucking creative and unique. What other game does that? But like I've said it has a lot of weird early NES game logic, you know AVGN complained about this years ago and kneeling down in Castlevania and waiting for a wind to take you away is the most famous example. Mario 2 feels exactly like this mixed with a platformer. It's weird and I have no fucking clue what I'm supposed to do. I'm actually good at games when I know what they want from me and I tend to give up when I get stuck because they change the formula. You might not believe this but when I grew up point and click adventures were my favourite genre. I still love the shit that Lucas did. It was solving puzzles BUT I was given a very clear task so I knew what I had to do.

I don't know how old people are here. Sadly many zoomers who accuse others of being zoomers but have you ever (probably not because you are too young) player Atari 2600 games? It's some weird shit where most of the games are you trying to figure out what the game is and what you are even supposed to do. That stuff is shit and Mario 2 feels like that. There is a reason why more straight forward games like frogger and pac man were more popular and why Mario 2 doki doki Rom hack is the only game of its kind and they didn't repeat the formula in future Mario games and instead 3 is like 1 and all future games act as if 2 was a fever dream - which it ironically is and that's why Nintendo treat it like that.

>> No.10570192

>>10569932
That's got to be bullshit. No way he could still be stuck after 30 years. At some point he would've figured it out or looked it up.

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>>10570175
>Serious question: name other games LIKE MARIO 2.


You mean in terms of not just moving left to right the whole game? That seems to be your issue with it. Why did you write that long post but ignore other games you like? I'll be 50 in under a month by the way.

>> No.10570202

>>10570146

If your brain doesn't understand something it MUST be bait for some reason.
Here is something funny. When children grow up they can't fathom that other people have other thoughts in their brain and don't have the exact same thoughts THEY HAVE IN THEIR BRAIN.
I feel like you never developed any further. Just because YOU PERSONALLY THINK LIKE THAT every other human has to think like you and if they don't, they are trolling.

At least admit :

>oh this is one of the games where you need a manual
Or
>it's designed to talk about at the school yard
Or
>perfect for Nintendo power
But no it must all be trolling for whatever reason. Like I don't even get what trolls would gain from this.

As you probably can't tell I'm fascinated by this game since it released but it's a love hate relationship. Heck I even got a promo sticker when this released with Mario and Ward on it now that I think about it.
Now how much of this game made it into other Mario games?
Also I have a love hate relationship with this game and I should probably just look at Nintendo power (I have the issue with this game, I have all the early issues) which could help me a lot.

But let's be serious: dude comes along (me) and asks for help. What happens? People shit on me and tell me to get good. Like clockwork. Thanks for nothing.

>> No.10570208

>>10570196

No I mean obscure puzzle platformer shit. I don't even know if I would call it a puzzle platformer. But it's weird. Only other weird game I can think of is A Boy and his Blob. Also pretty unique.

So Mario 2 is a game where you need to figure odd stuff out. This is what I mean. I mean in a point and click adventure the entire genre is to solve puzzles so the goal is straight forward. Do you get what I mean? Like I said look at Mario 2 and every other platformer.

Another question: in the very first level there is a ladder and a wall. You can climb down , grab bombs, blow up the wall and reach the boss that way (it's Birdo). How do I blow up the wall without hitting myself??? I always hurt myself with those bombs.

>> No.10570236

>>10570208
I mean I get that it's a neat and unique game. It's probably the reason why it's one of the only Mario games I bothered to finish, I just can't understand what you find hard about it. Other than Kirby I think it's one of the easiest games on the NES.

>> No.10570298

>>10569629
Here's an odd bit of trivia. The manual makes no mention of pressing down to enter vases or even hinting they can be entered.

>> No.10570335

Seriously you assholes how the fuck is this game easy? I get killed by Mouser and game over and I press retry and I have to start from the very first level. This isn't easy. This is pure frustrating. You just want to flex and feel superior. Fuck this game.

Isn't there some Rom hack to make it less shit???

>> No.10570342

>>10570208
>How do I blow up the wall without hitting myself???
You can stand on the edge and press B to drop the bomb right in front of you or you can press B while moving forward to toss it. Be sure to time it so the bomb goes off in front of the destructible parts.

>> No.10570354

How come whenever we get people complaining about old games, it is always zoomer? They are not forced to play this game, they can easily ignore it and play whatever is being made for them. But no, they need to come here and create a thread to complain about some old video game mechanic just to stroke their ego. Fuck I'm tired of this bitching. /vr/ is the only place I can talk about retro games without someone needing to remind me their are trans and this shit keeps happening.

>> No.10570360

>>10570335
>I have to start from the very first level
That's how you get better. With enough practice you'll be able to do the first level in your sleep. You made it to Mouser. Maybe you will be able to make it past him next time. Or maybe you'll just get in one more hit on him than you managed to this time. But growth is growth. The fun of retro games is in aiming to beat your personal best.

>> No.10570362

>>10570335
Will you at least tell us what other non-mario NES games you've played and find less hard?

>> No.10570373

>>10570335
What exactly is the problem of starting the game from the beginning?

>> No.10570382

>>10570335
There is no romhack to make you less shit, no

>> No.10570390

>>10570208
You're being too obvious with the trolling now.

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The joke is this "Mario" is actually better than mainline Mario: several characters to choose from (which only games like mario kart offer this option), grabbing things and throwing them. No mandatory left to right movement. The music and enemy design is soulful. It did the "it was all a dream" before LA did it, and the aesthetics and mechanics contributed to it.

>> No.10570570

You fuckers are still feeding the troll? You know he will keep spamming his bullshit whenever possible if you keep giving him (you)s.

>> No.10570924

>>10570354
>How come whenever we get people complaining about old games, it is always zoomer?

How come people who always have to shout
>zoomer
Are unable to read and understand a text?
I've cleared dropped the number 30 years in this thread and I've also stated that I got a sticker from the game when it came out. So yes I'm a boomer but I know you find some comfort in calling everyone a zoomer. I hate zoomers too but mostly idiots.

>> No.10570948

>>10570924
>I've cleared dropped the number 30 years in this thread
I refuse to believe someone that played this game for 30 years has not been able to finish it yet. No one is that low IQ.

>> No.10570983

>>10570362

Sure but I've played pretty much every NES game since it's my favourite console and besides Zelda 2, Mario 2 and Castlevania 2 (I see a pattern here) I find every NES game very beatable. So I could pretty much name every single NES game except for those 3.

>> No.10570990

>>10570983
Anon, if you are telling me that Battletoads, Ninja Gaiden and Ghost and Goblin are easier than Mario 2, then you are lying. The first game literally makes you start from the beginning if you die a lot yet you saw this a problem in Mario 2, despite being easier to die in Battletoads.

>> No.10571000

>>10570948

I could make the same thread about Zelda 2. There are just some games that are frustrating and won't click with me but since those are classics I'll always come back and try it once in a while. I mean I try it for a few days but I keep on dying and I don't get better and then I give up and go
>fuck this game
And try again in a few years with the same results.
Do you remember some class in school you were just not good at and even though you tried it just wasn't your thing? There are some things you are just not good at. Do you want me to start recording how bad I am at this game so you can ridicule me on YouTube? There is a reason why this is an anonymous message board. The difference is just that the average person will be like
>fuck it
And he'll never touch the game again but I'm too stubborn plus I really want to master it at some point plus I like the music but one fine day I'll die and I'll never have learned Japanese and I'll never have beaten this game while I've to admit that I actually know some Japanese and remembering words has never been a problem for me but there is more to a language then just knowing words while what can you do if you suck at Mario 2??? If it's mussel memory you have to train each level over and over again because the game always throws you in new scenarios. I don't know what's so hard to understand this.

If you guys want names
I like Kirby's adventure
Panic restaurant
Kid Dracula

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>>10564767
>and I am tired of pretending that it does not

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>>10570983
I'm sorry dude, but I have to agree with the others at this point that there's no way you're not just trolling. You expect me to believe Castlevania 1-3, Kid Icarus, Faxanadu, Ghosts n' Goblins, Metroid, Contra etc were no trouble but somehow Mario 2 has had you filteted for 30 years because you can't figure out the throw mechanics?

If this is real please kill yourself

>> No.10571026

>>10570990
Battle toads I mostly get filtered by that speeder part, that's some annoying shit and when I give up but it's a brain dead beat em up. Go left to right and punch enemies.

Ghost and Goblins is hard yes and I admit I've never beaten it but that's because you have to beat the game twice and I can't be arsed to do that. For some reason I don't find the game to be unfair though. You know what happens when and react accordingly BUT while I'm okay at ghosh and goblins I suck at every single mega man game. The enemies respawning if you leave the screen for a few pixels is just so annoying and dodging bullets. I really suck at mega man.

Ninja Gaiden is fast but fun and does require some time yes. But all those games are straight forward. Go from the left to the right and avoid enemies and no hidden crap. No bombs you can't place correctly and other shit stuff. I just think Mario 2 is designed like ass and I can't work with that.

I also love Duck Tales 1&2

>> No.10571039

>>10571021

Castlevania 2 sucks ass like Mario 2
Like Zelda 2
It does suck ass because I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I have to GUESS stuff and ASSUME stuff.
The other games are all about fast reflexes. You really don't see a difference here. Also like I said Nintendo logic.

Metroid can be a pain in the ass about getting lost but are the enemies hard? No. It's just tiny little fuckers that will remove a tiny amount of HP which you can always farm at those pipes.
Contra is a difficult game I admit that. The bosses are my biggest problem.

Kid Dracula also does get hard at a certain point but it's also as straight forward as it gets.

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>>10571039
That's nice.

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>>10568649
>muh carpet
skill issue
>muh door
skill
issue

>> No.10571405

>>10571395
Damn, you did this the harder and slower way lol. You could have thrown the bird into the pit once you were a little bit out and flown to that area faster.

>> No.10571624
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>>10571395

>> No.10571628
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>>10571624

>> No.10571636

>>10571395
What the literal fuck

>> No.10571645
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>>10571395
Nice moves.
>filename
Very nice.

>> No.10571646

Posting in bait thread, put me in the screenshot

>> No.10571649

>>10571039
>Castlevania 2 sucks ass like Mario 2
>Like Zelda 2
Literally all those games you mentioned at the beginning of your post are in my top 5 games not of NES, but of all time. Short story, you're an idiot, as is anyone else that slanders these literal God-tier masterpieces.

>> No.10571657

>>10571000
It's not the game's fault that you haven't gotten good yet. I beat Zelda 2 but it took maybe 10 years before I really sat down with it and made the effort. I think it took just shy of 150 continues. It's not Nintendo's fault that you experienced games that let you beat them even if you suck at video games, where EVERYONE IS A WINNER before you played true-school, golden age NES shit.

>> No.10571658

>>10571624
>>10571628

I will add that this is me playing the game using Retroatrch and a NTSC filter. I use to play this game all the time on a real NES when I was like 10, and could complete the game under an hour. I also played it a lot on the Allstars collection too.

>> No.10571661

>>10571658
that NTSC filter is pretty comfy. I use the same thing on the FCEUmm core, just feels right, especially with the first generation of black box NES games like Golf.

>> No.10571667
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>>10571661
>that NTSC filter is pretty comfy. I use the same thing on the FCEUmm core, just feels right, especially with the first generation of black box NES games like Golf.

I use the NTSC shader with a VGA monitor and it looks pretty good.

Also, any character can do the 'power squat jump' where you hold down for about 3 seconds and the character glows.

>> No.10571672 [DELETED] 

>>10571667
>I use the NTSC shader with a VGA monitor and it looks pretty good.
>Also, any character can do the 'power squat jump' where you hold down for about 3 seconds and the character glows.

I meant to say 1 second. Not 3. This movie and princesses floating ability by holding down 'B' can make some stages pretty easy. Luigi has the highest jump. Toad is good for digging though sand.

>> No.10571676

>>10571667
>Also, any character can do the 'power squat jump' where you hold down for about 3 seconds and the character glows.

I meant to say '1 second'. Also Princess Peach can float if you hold down the jump button.

>> No.10571681

>>10571026
>it's a brain dead beat em up. Go left to right and punch enemies.

No it isn't. Only stage 1 is like that.

Anyway, you can't be good at games (as you say you are) and suck at Mega Man. And having trouble with the bombs in Mario 2 is just bizarre. I could see becoming stuck at least briefly due to failure to understand that one can enter the snake jars, but otherwise you're full of crap. You are a bad player and a bad critic. Or, as always, maybe just a troll.

>> No.10571682
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>>10571667
Super jumps with Luigi are always satisfying.

>> No.10571692

>>10571682
remember when people actually used to draw comics instead of just modifiying the same 5 basedjacks

>> No.10571970

>>10571395
I will never get THIS good at any game.

>> No.10573029

>>10571657

Sure thing. Keep on pretending and lying to yourself.

Castlevania 2 and Zelda 2 are such amazing games that they said
>wow those games are so great let's never ever do this again because why would we give people something they like

Really Castlevania 2 was so amazing that 3 went back to the style of 1
And Zelda 2 was so amazing that all Zelda games after 2 went back to the style of 1 and no other Zelda game ever released that shares anything in common with 2
In fact Mario 2 had such amazing game play that Mario 3 went back to the style of Mario 1
Really makes you wonder. Are you simply that retarded or do you love lying to yourself.

Really if those games were so great and amazing why did all those games go back to the style and game play they used before making all those second games one big mistake and outcast that never ever got repeated again for A REASON
I know you can't answer that because it means you would have to agree with me
But I'm sure you can come up with some bullshit lie reason like those games were so amazing they knew nothing could ever beat them
Breath of the Wild was successful so they copied the style
Symphony of the night was so successful that it changed all future Castlevania games
Mario 2, CV2 and Zelda 2 suck so hard the companies wish those games would have never happened otherwise they would have adopted the gameplay for future games

>> No.10573067

>>10573029
Castlevania post SotN has a lot more in common with Simon's Quest than either 1 or 3. Also back to the topic at hand, most aren't saying Mario 2 is the best, we're all just laughing at you for being so uncommonly terrible at playing games and equally as upset about it.

>> No.10573096

Bump

>> No.10573105

>>10571682
>Luigi jumps high when he kicks his legs
>therefore, I should do this in my car because _____
I'm not thinking too much into this, this comic is retarded.

>> No.10573109

>>10573029
>In fact Mario 2 had such amazing game play that Mario 3 went back to the style of Mario 1

You're aware that the "mario 2" you're talking about isn't even a Mario game in Japan and the real Mario 2 is basically a level pack for Mario 1... right?

>> No.10573184

>10573096
Why

>> No.10573226
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>>10573109
Yes I am aware of that but as usual throw yourself on to the ONE thing I have said and ignore Zelda 2 and CV 2
Also Mario 2 has an EXCUSE for being shitty because it is a rom hack yet every retard here defends it

>> No.10573241

>>10573029
>>>wow those games are so great let's never ever do this again because why would we give people something they like
CV2 gave way to Symphony and its brethen, SotN alone has plenty of references to CV2 and IGA mentioned enjoying that game's interconnected world and exploration.

Zelda II was something Miyamoto and Koizumi wanted to try once more, Ocarina of Time being a "thematical remake" with focus on sword fights and even shit like the Fairy Spell was set to reappear as we now know. The earliest tech demo version of Zelda 64 used Zelda II Link as a placeholder for this reason alone.

>> No.10573248

>>10573226
Zelda 2 and CV 2 were the actual Japanese developers trying, and failing, to do something different. Mario 2 USA is not comparable. As far as the Japanese are concerned, mainline Mario has had the same formula forever.

>> No.10573251

>>10573226
Why the fuck do you kerp bringing Zelda and Castlevania 2 up as reasons you can't beat Mario 2? What the fuck is your angle trying to constantly deflect? In case your memory is as shitty as your skill at games let me remind you that the whole reason we got Doki Doki Panic reskinned as Mario 2 i America is because the real Mario 2 was deemed too difficult so they picked an easy game instead. Nothing you say about Zelda 2 or CV 2 applies in any way at all (and I think you know it) the whole thread is you find Mario2 US hard and that's pathetic.

>> No.10573343

>>10573248
>trying, and failing

Thanks a million for finally admitting this! This is what I've been saying for days now.

>> No.10573380

>>10573343
Except the example the thread is about doesn't apply in any way because the real Super Mario 2 is very similar to Super Mario 1. It also then only half applies to Castlevania because although 3, 4, bloodlines and rondo followed a more similar style to 1 the series ended up being more like 2 than anything. Also, the reason CV2 in America is considered hard is because the translation is both bad and purposefully obtuse. Other than that, the combat, enemies you fight and the msnsions you clear along the way it is far FAR easier than either CV 1 or 3.

So really what you're left with is that Zelda 2 was a misstep that most people don't like and everyone agrees the directions LA and LttP took are better.

And all this but you still constantly defect over why you find Mario 2 US so hard that after 30 years it still baffles you and you have to ask us how to even throw bombs. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.10573404

>>10573343
WHY THE EVERLOVING FUCK DO YOU KEEP GOING ON ABOUT CASTLEVANIA AND ZELDA WHEN THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT HOW YOU SUCK TO MUCH TO BEAT SUPER MARIO 2

>> No.10573440

>>10573404
He's clearly trolling. His intended reaction is exactly what you just did, losing your shit and typing in all caps. The smart move is to ignore the faggot and let the thread die.

>> No.10573469

>>10573109
Well it was released later as Mario USA.

>> No.10573518

>>10573469
Yeah, which proves it's a game that was liked enough that even it's bastardized American version got it's own release. OP is either a troll or a 40 year old hyper autist who has been stuck for decades on one of the easiest NES games because going left instead of right breaks his retard brain.

>> No.10573551

>>10573518
He is a troll. He literally said Battletoads is "go left to right" game. Anyone that suffered in that game knows it is a lie. Only the first stage is truly like that which proves OP has not even played the game.

>> No.10573643

>>10573105
That's why it's funny.

>> No.10573814

>>10573643
Nah, you're retarded.

>> No.10573842

>>10564767
I am TIRED of the Mario Madness SLANDER

>> No.10573997 [DELETED] 

>>10573842
This. I'm simply going to assert that the jews caused all of the world's wars. And that you only see to them because you are a faggot.

>> No.10574093

>>10571405
I imagine that path was engineered to completely BTFO that shitter's arguments: no going fast, no worrying about the carpet running out, no key.
Also, how the hell do videos compress so well? That's over 1 min long and 60fps, while under 1.6 MB.

>> No.10574104 [DELETED] 

>>10574093
The jews murdered JFK, bombed the USS Liberty, and bombed the Twin Towers.

>> No.10574151 [DELETED] 

>>10573469
>Well it was released later as Mario USA.

The reason why is because Nintendo couldn't continue selling Doki Doki Panic in Japan after a certain date. Doki Doki Panic was a promotional game for some world fair like event that happened in Japan in 1987 with a bunch of Japanese tech companies. It was called Yumi Kojo '87 or something. The characters in Doki Doki Panic were the mascots for the vent. The rights to sell the game with that license expired. I know people from Japan who recognize Doki Doki Panic more as Mario USA, because Mario USA has been sold for a longer period of time in Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYRgsTmhpEI

>> No.10574158

>>10573469
>Well it was released later as Mario USA.

The reason why is because Nintendo couldn't continue selling Doki Doki Panic in Japan after a certain date. Doki Doki Panic was a promotional game for a large 'world fair' like event that happened in Japan in 1987, that was assembled by a bunch of Japanese tech companies. It was called Yumi Kojo '87. The characters in Doki Doki Panic were the mascots for the event. The rights to sell the game with that license expired. I know people from Japan who recognize Doki Doki Panic more as Mario USA, because Mario USA has been sold for a longer period of time in Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYRgsTmhpEI

>> No.10574219
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lol @ getting stuck for 30 years on one of my all-time favorite games that I beat as a kid. OP either must be trolling or have defective wiring in his brain.
>vines
I realize this is b8 but I'll respond anyway. Climbing vines is no prob, you can move on them and even jump off because that becomes very useful in later levels, which you never got up to.
I don't expect everyone to see it my way, but smb2 is a masterpiece. I realized this when I brainstormed ideas for a romhack, then realized everything I came up with is already in the game. Very well-designed all around, the characters have balanced pros/cons, and it has a dreamy atmosphere.

>>10573551
1cc'ing Battletoads is one of my finer achievements, it took alot of practice. I can confirm, the game keeps flipping the mechanics on you, each level has a new gimmick. It's all very creative, unfortunately many ppl didn't experience it all because the difficulty is so unforgiving. At least there's Japanese Battletoads if you want an easymode.

>>10571645
indeed

>> No.10574336

I'm glad that everyone in the thread, even OP, has finally come round to agreeing that Mario 2 is a great game, that Zelda 2 is quite good as well, and that Castlevania 2 has good music.

>> No.10575125

>>10573029
No, Zelda 2 is crap.

>> No.10576885

>>10573029
Because unfortunately, Nintendo is in the business of selling video games first, and making interesting, challenging games second. Instead of using a bannable word, I will just say you are mentally ill. All the cope in the world isn't gonna make me love the games any less.

>> No.10576892

>>10573248
There was no failure. Failure at what? Getting low-IQ retards like (You) to like it? All of those games are monumental and influenced thousands of others.

>> No.10577581

>>10573248
Simon's Quest and Adventure of Link are their series best iterations on NES. And all 3 (smb2 included) have the best music of their series.
>Bloody Tears
>Palace theme
>Underground theme

>> No.10577983

>>10571073
Would