ITT: 5th gen 3D games with decent melee combat

[Anonymous No.10548302]

Rules:
>no fightans
>no Ocarina

[Anonymous No.10548328]

Going through my lists and don't think there is much outside of what you mentioned (+ Zelda MM I guess). Gunnm plays well for a licensed game and bit like an OoT prototype

Soul of the Samurai maybe but it's very clunky and unpolished. Rising Sun could've been great but has primitive controls and plays like an early PS1 game despite its 1999 release

[Anonymous No.10548343]

>>10548328
Might add Castlevania 64/LoD. Nothing great but it controls well, you can dash/dodge and the moves have nice effects

[Anonymous No.10548418]

>>10548302
Silent Hill has pretty good melee. Watching Harry whoop the fuck out of monsters with that lead pipe made me pissed every time I went back to RE and the protags never think to grab a better melee weapon than the knife.

[Anonymous No.10548428]

>>10548328
>Gunnm plays well for a licensed game and bit like an OoT prototype
Brightis too

[Anonymous No.10548429]

>>10548418
Just go play a sandbox game if you're going to get that iffy about the game environment.

[Anonymous No.10548495]

Brightis

[Anonymous No.10548687]

I really liked the combat system in Soul Reaver. It was basic but felt nice and polished, combined with the primitive stealth it was fun sneaking up, throwing a spear, or doing that cool impale finishing move. I'd always try and keep the same spear as long as I could.

Got less interesting once you have the titular soul reaver itself, but looking back it still felt pretty ahead of it's time. Really, games like Dynasty Warriors or God of War a generation later were still using that exact same kind of system just with extra combos tacked on.

[Anonymous No.10548691]

>no ocarina
It did though. Oot combat shits on literally everything of the time period it released

[Anonymous No.10548697]

>>10548691
Ocarina of i-frames doesn't shit on any game's combat lol

[Anonymous No.10548710]

>>10548302
rising zan

>>10548697
ocarina of time has so much waiting for being allowed to attack the enemy it might as well be turn based

[Anonymous No.10548731]

>>10548691
>>10548697
>2 minutes apart
Makes one wonder how often you pretend to be a Nintendo fanboy just to give yourself an excuse to shit on Nintendo for an entire thread, schizophrenic Spyrofag. Definitely screenshotting this one

Also imagine being so brainbroken you think iframes are a bad thing when all the best combat games in the world utilize them, be it DMC, Monster Hunter, Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls and so on

[Anonymous No.10548735]

>>10548731
ocarinas implementation of iframes is bad because it's just the enemy deciding they aren't allowed to be hit yet even though there's no visible changes, it's basically rng for your attacks working in an action game and there's no tell for it. Bad game design. Anyway I'm gonna make another sonic thread just cuz I like messing with you schizotendie

[Anonymous No.10548774]

>>10548735
I have no idea what any of this verbal diarrhea means. Though I don't even know what makes you think iframes are a big part of OoT's combat. Sounds like you just scrolled through this thread today >>10508764, which I assume is what schizophrenic Spyro/Sonic furries/scalies do despite hating the game the thread is about

Your deranged existence alone doubled my faith in Nintendo and the quality of their products

[Anonymous No.10548779]

>>10548495
translation when

[Anonymous No.10548790]

>>10548779
It's a very simple game you can play without understanding a word Japanese. It also isn't a very good game and, while the combat has some depth, it's all for show as none of the encounters are designed for it or require it. It's also frustrating at times and lacks proper targeting
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/brightis/

[Anonymous No.10548791]

>>10548774
>I have no idea

[Anonymous No.10548813]

>>10548302
>Die Hard Arcade
>Majora’s Mask
>Soul Reaver
>Core made an ok beatemup. Judgement Force? Fighting Force?
>Nightmare Creatures I guess (picrel)
>N64 Castlevania and its sequel is a stretch
>There’s a janky n64 Hercules game that some fun can be found in if we’re digging for the bottom of the barrel.

[Anonymous No.10549038]

>almost nothing
its crazy how ahead of its time zelda used to be and that it was the direct influence for games like dmc
i love ww but nintendo really fucked up not further pushing the genre

[Anonymous No.10549042]

>>10548418
kek

[Anonymous No.10549062]

>>10549038
After OoT melee action games began raining from the sky

[Anonymous No.10549107]

>>10548302
Bushido blade 1/2

[Anonymous No.10549271]

>>10548779
Never because it's not a tranime visual novel starring little school girls

[Anonymous No.10550849]

>>10548302
I'm not too familiar with this genre but maybe Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman?

[Anonymous No.10550864]

>>10549271

[Anonymous No.10550940]

tenchu

[Anonymous No.10550989]

>>10548302
Off the top of my head, Maken X, Dark Forces 2.

[Anonymous No.10550995]

>>10550989
>Maken X
Not 5th gen

[Anonymous No.10551446]

Crash 3 unironically. There's almost nothing

[Anonymous No.10552327]

>>10548328
>>10548343
>>10548428
Hokuto no Ken on PS1 also just came to mind. Mechanically not completely uninteresting. And Castlevania LoD definitely has better gameplay than the original

Might as well mention T'ai Fu since I read Crash and Soul Reaver

[Anonymous No.10552971]

>>10548302
The jump from Nightmare Creatures 1 to 2 is insane.

[Anonymous No.10553007]

>>10548813
>Soul Reaver
There's a lot of good I can say about Soul Reaver but the combat is an afterthought at best. Out of every possible encounter in the game, about three are mandatory. Most enemies can be ran past, and the incentive to consume souls is gone once you gain the Soul Reaver (which is quite early in the game), especially if you just avoid combat. As a result of the game's unfinished nature, the Glyphs don't also offer a lot. In my last playthrough, I specifically fought every vampire with different methods, and with each Glyph, just to fully maximise the game length. Impaling, burning and having to use the environment to kill vampires is clever, but the thing which leads to that outcome is pretty unpolished.

[Anonymous No.10553435]

Dragon Valor was pretty fun

[Anonymous No.10553507]

Heretic 2

[Anonymous No.10553945]

>>10553007
>especially if you just avoid combat
But fighting them is fun

[Anonymous No.10553950]

Lucifer's Ring

[Anonymous No.10554416]

>>10553945
It is, but none of the combat is required to progress through the game at all.

[Anonymous No.10554419]

>>10554416
So what? If you like it, then do it. Nobody's forcing you to avoid enemies

[Anonymous No.10554472]

>>10554419

>In my last playthrough, I specifically fought every vampire with different methods, and with each Glyph, just to fully maximise the game length. Impaling, burning and having to use the environment to kill vampires is clever, but the thing which leads to that outcome is pretty unpolished.
Did you not fucking read my post?

[Anonymous No.10554494]

>>10554472
Yes, so stop bitching

[Anonymous No.10554529]

>>10548302
Medieval, Drakan, Spider man, tenchu, Star wars jedi power,Crusaders of Might & Magic,

[Anonymous No.10554542]

>>10548779
Never, go learn 日本語.

[Anonymous No.10554571]

>>10553945
>But fighting them is fun
Literally how? IIRC enemies have like 0 poise or interesting moves

[Anonymous No.10554589]

Die by the Sword.

[Anonymous No.10554654]

>>10548343
>Castlevania
Love how you get ragdolled in this

[Anonymous No.10554719]

>>10550864
Now search zoomer.

[Anonymous No.10554898]

>>10548302
Oni

[Anonymous No.10554942]

>>10548495
>Made by Quintet
Holy fucking kino.

[Anonymous No.10554946]

>>10548495
Every time I see this game here I want to play it. One day I will.

[Anonymous No.10554949]

[Anonymous No.10555003]

>>10554942
that's how you know it's not kino

[Anonymous No.10555325]

>>10548302
>>no Ocarina
gochu

[Anonymous No.10555348]

[Anonymous No.10555382]

>numeric generation nonsense
kys

[Anonymous No.10555390]

>>10555382
So true anon, there is nothing productive about grouping the systems that competed with each other!

[Anonymous No.10556546]

>>10555325
Who's working on that?

[Anonymous No.10556553]

I'm posting this but I honestly can't remember if it was terrible or great

[Anonymous No.10557154]

>>10555003
Terranigma is such a disappointment