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*SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP* Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:43:09 2023 No.10533420 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>10523442

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

Quickstart torrent (IWADS etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake 1-3 FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives:
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/3t8nzSIS#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://rentry.org/8ca3061522e0

OUR SRB2K SERVER (Kart Game in Doom), more info here:
https://pastebin.com/fFj8euau

PLAY SOME RETRO FPS WITH /VR/:
http://clovr.xyz/

WAD BOORU:
http://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:43:25 2023 No.10533421

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
SUM TING /VR/Y WONG
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/10413464
https://archive.org/details/shadow-warrior-mapping-kit

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
AD MORTEM FINAL CUT (v1.5.6)
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3exnqm8nxg4gukhj10hcp?rlkey=r5nwzu32pfh2dtefpbjy2p49b
Ad Mortem Guns (DECORATE): https://files.catbox.moe/ihv4l4.zip

=== WHEN IT'S DONE ===
FORE/VR/ ALONE (beta 3)
https://files.catbox.moe/u9smv4.zip

A SERIOUS CASE OF /vr/
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9611406

VIOLENT RUMBLE 2
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/9941720

=== NEWS ===
[12-18] Voxel Doom added parallax mapping to IWAD's textures
https://www.moddb.com/mods/voxel-doom-ii/addons/voxel-doom-ii-with-parallax-textures

[12-17] DoomGPT, an AI-directed Doom II project - released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/133843

[12-14] Nugget 2.3.0 Released
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/

[12-12] Colourful Hell v1.01
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1248275#p1248275

[12-12] Sigil 2 in Unity Doom, QDoom in KexQuake
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1734622708074524944

[12-11] Woof 12.0.1 (Sigil 2 fixes)
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/

[12-10] Doom turns 30!

[12-10] Cacowards 2023
https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2023/

[12-10] Sigil II released
https://romero.com/sigil

[12-10] Romero + Carmack stream
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2000693432

[12-10] Maximal Doom: 1994 WAD compilation
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142041

[12-10] Quake 2 CTF tournament
https://q2ctf.eu/tournament/sunday-big-game-vol-14

[12-10] 30 Years with Doom: Russian Doom community megawad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142029

[12-09] Eviternity II released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/142015

[12-08] Polish Community Project - in beta
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141953

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:45:17 2023 No.10533427 >doom more like dumb lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:47:05 2023 No.10533432 File: 9 KB, 183x275, 1000007291.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just beat doom 64 for the first time today, was better than I thought... what's the general opinion about it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:48:53 2023 No.10533435 bad op, fail thread. did you even readme?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:50:29 2023 No.10533439 >>10533435 It's good enough. Though if whatever he did bothers you that much. You should have stepped up to the plate and made the next thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:50:30 2023 No.10533440 File: 443 KB, 1150x1150, Word cloud.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:54:07 2023 No.10533450 >>10533440 >need fun >try long mods >wads wrong, bad shot ... >always fine

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:54:16 2023 No.10533451 File: 698 KB, 806x398, lord blaz vs wario.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:56:34 2023 No.10533453

>>10533432
I got a couple maps in and hated it because the movement felt off and the encounters were meh.

That being said, great atmosphere, neat scripting changes. And its generally considered to be a good game that does what it intends to do very well (big emphasis on atmosphere).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:58:17 2023 No.10533456 >>10533440 >shoot barrels sounds about right desu

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 01:58:47 2023 No.10533457 File: 188 KB, 1029x1701, 1702339542962.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:00:04 2023 No.10533460 >>10533457 insanely based

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:24:42 2023 No.10533509 File: 118 KB, 840x517, 1672029554851643.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No newspost image feels very naked but thanks for the new thread OP.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:24:53 2023 No.10533512
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After chipping away at and revising this cathedral for months, I remembered that VR1 already had a cathedral map with a very similar layout to this, and my attempt might come across as a copycat, but I'm too far in to stop now. The translucent glass looks neat, at least.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:25:56 2023 No.10533518 >>10533512 For the empra, ser?

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:26:16 2023 No.10533520
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>>10533421
RC1 of Rise of the Triangles is released : https://doomshack.org/uploads/rottriangle_RC1.zip

22 Boom maps using only 100 linedefs per map, using extensive Dehackedry to create new props to add more life into the environment.

It's broken in ZDoom-based ports, must be played with a Boom source port like Nugget Doom or DSDA-Doom, etc.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:28:20 2023 No.10533532

>>10533509
Usually there's an infographic I can attach for at least one of the running projects, but Sum Ting /vr/y whatever doesn't have one, Ad Mortem and Waifus are basically done, and then there's the other 2 which are just yeah. /vr/ projects have been very weird lately.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:37:20 2023 No.10533556 >>10533532 pls b patient with me

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:37:26 2023 No.10533557 >>10533518 Yeah, I guess the AoD textureset made me inclined to make something suitably gothic and skull fetishizing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:39:47 2023 No.10533561 >>10533557 We march for /vr/ and we shall know no fear

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:42:59 2023 No.10533572 >>10533432 Fun. >>10533557 Suitably based, you mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:48:33 2023 No.10533584 Would you guys be interested in another "of /vr/" WAD? Might just be something lowkey that can be finished quick like 1024 linedefs, nothing too fancy or long term.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:51:39 2023 No.10533596

>>10533584
I was watching an interview with Marty O'Donnell two days ago, a recent one so you could find it on youtube easily. There's a bit in the video titled game developers as suits or something, and the gist of that segment is that if you're gonna start a project, then lead it; you have to set deadlines and get up mapper's asses about finishing. Lest you end up like the other current projects, no disrespect to them - I think waifu anon got hit by a car (and is recovering), one VR2 mapper has a sick relative, etc. Good luck anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:54:06 2023 No.10533606 AdMortem final update when?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 02:55:19 2023 No.10533609 >>10533584 i'm available after the first week of january

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:08:02 2023 No.10533651 File: 354 KB, 1280x2048, 03t.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10533520 >https://doomshack.org/uploads/rottriangle_RC1.zip That was OK. 6/10

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:10:10 2023 No.10533662 >>10533427 spbp

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:10:28 2023 No.10533663 File: 32 KB, 820x118, Screenshot 2023-12-21 220820.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rip GMOTA.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:17:18 2023 No.10533679 >>10533606 Vaeros got lost in the murky woods apparently, see doomworld thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:23:54 2023 No.10533693 File: 117 KB, 1920x1080, 1691139911027471.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] in zandro i've got MOUSE5 bound to "+reload" but when i click that button it drops the view to the floor and walks forward anyone know what could be causing that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:34:22 2023 No.10533719 >>10533693 You have ransomware installed. Format your system32 folder asap. Or a driver problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:42:29 2023 No.10533730 File: 27 KB, 408x416, 1696935365084993.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10533424

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:47:02 2023 No.10533743 >>10533596 I mean yeah, I do intend to lead a project, I just want to know if people want to make maps or not before I start.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:52:04 2023 No.10533754 >>10533457 What were the comments?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 03:53:10 2023 No.10533757 >>10533520 >It's broken in ZDoom-based ports Why? Not that I mind personally, just curious

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:01:55 2023 No.10533769 I asked this in the last thread but I will be more specific. Why can’t doom have two rooms on top of eachother but build can?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:02:52 2023 No.10533772 >>10533754 It's not archived so unless someone has a screenshot we'll never know, but it's probably stuff that makes sense

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:09:28 2023 No.10533780 >>10533769 Build Engine has portals, Doom doesn't. You still can't just build a sector on top of another one in either engine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:17:52 2023 No.10533794 >>10533780 how do portals work?

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:25:18 2023 No.10533809
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>2020 + 3
>still haven't played the instant Christmas-classic
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eyTi7ZYd_y4

What's your excuse?

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:29:35 2023 No.10533814

>>10533532
I'm not great at making project logos so I might just use an editor screenshot like 500ml unless some kind anon throws one together. Aside from that expect another tiles file for the mapping kit tommorow (winter, translucent and augr zenith assets) and some more development screenshots.

>>10533596
Build mapping takes an unpredictable amount of time, so I was hesitant to set a deadline off the bat. Perhaps I should have. I also wanted to keep the project on board and avoid discord since some people got upset at the segmentation, but it seemed like progress was more transparent throughout 500ml development.

>>10533769
>>10533794
Build sectors are portal rendered while Doom engine traverses a bsp tree. In Build, as long as the floors or ceeilings arn't both visible at once, Build dosen't care about line overlap. From what I remember the Doom engine bsp traversal fucks up when you try to overlap sectors. This dude has a pretty good explination.

https://fabiensanglard.net/duke3d/build_engine_internals.php

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:41:12 2023 No.10533831 >>10533757 Some of the decorations that replace powerups are glowing like powerups. The barrel run section in MAP01 drops framerates by a lot when dynamic lights are enabled. The death exits don't work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 04:57:14 2023 No.10533860 >>10533809 Bahahahaa I remember when the guy who made this had an existential crisis over his mods being nothing but edge and he quit modding forever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 05:52:31 2023 No.10533971 >>10533432 absolutely retarded to include the plasma gun in a nerfed state when the unmaker in any of its forms exists besides that it's cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 05:53:44 2023 No.10533973 >>10533663 I ain't dead, but at least I have the sense to not make claims like that anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:34:21 2023 No.10534052 >>10533420 best thread on vr rn

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:43:47 2023 No.10534076 >>10533809 I'd never heard of it until now. Neat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:47:22 2023 No.10534087 >>10533809 I don't play marxist meme shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:50:25 2023 No.10534095 >>10533973 You got like 9 days or something!

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:56:05 2023 No.10534112
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>>10534095
Doomslayer's not even done! Kustam still needs his revamps, and THEN Samson needs to be made. Got plans for something else with this update but that's all I'll say.
I've also been considering making an alternate HUD that's like, a generalized HUD that all four heroes use but it's smaller. I don't know if I'll actually do it though because working with SBARINFO is such a pain in the ass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 06:58:38 2023 No.10534117 >>10533432 I liked the environmental traps like the dart launchers and the one trap where the walls close in real fast and pull away just as quick. Lots of fun. First level barrel secret is bullshit.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 07:27:13 2023 No.10534151

>>10533596
Life comes at you fast. I got in a wreck about a month back, and while I got off far better than Waifulead, coming out unharmed, it REALLY fucking sucks to not have a car when living out in the sticks, especially during winter. At least that shit is finally over with now.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 07:32:43 2023 No.10534154

>>10533831
>Some of the decorations that replace powerups are glowing like powerups.
The barrel run section in MAP01 drops framerates by a lot when dynamic lights are enabled.
This is an easy fix, make a custom GLDefs lump which alters or removes dynamic lights from whatever needs it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 07:35:31 2023 No.10534158 >>10533860 Lol, what a dumbass, he should have just made different mods instead then

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 07:37:10 2023 No.10534161 >>10534158 I don't think he really made anything other than some maps. The enemies are all taken from /pol/.wad and the MoonMan mod, and all of the guns in that trailer are all stock Realm667 things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 07:41:24 2023 No.10534167 >>10534158 Eh, I wouldn't bust his ass over it TOO much, he was probably just going through his edgy phase.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 08:43:40 2023 No.10534245 >>10534154 will do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 08:49:48 2023 No.10534256 Merry Christmas lads. I'm looking for some comfy Christmas mods to play tonight. Recently played a half life one called something Christmas I forget but I need more I need comfy Christmas mods. Thank you so much

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:09:42 2023 No.10534287 File: 89 KB, 1920x1080, 1589094517052.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yesterday WAS Happy Marathon / Rise of the Triad day. You did play at least one of the two, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:14:48 2023 No.10534295 File: 155 KB, 640x360, 1703236478428.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] doom without fastmonsters is sooo slow it puts me to sleep and i end up walking back into projectiles after sidestepping them because i expect them to be faster ugggh

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:18:07 2023 No.10534308 File: 1.27 MB, 320x464, 1685830790754236.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10533809 the download link for the anniversary edition got nuked, can you put the wad on catbox or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:27:28 2023 No.10534321 >>10534287 If the Windows 95 version of Marathon 2 counts, I guess I did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:37:53 2023 No.10534336 how do I broom trenches

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:44:58 2023 No.10534345 File: 67 KB, 943x251, tZlHrMf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10534336 use this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 09:55:45 2023 No.10534359 >>10534345 I've always wondered how people draw the reflections in gunmetal for sprite work. Just lots of good looking pixel art or is it all downscaled from real art techniques?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 10:04:53 2023 No.10534375 >>10534359 modern stuff is usually just 3d modeled, rendered out at low res, then fixed up a little by hand

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 10:18:13 2023 No.10534394 >>10534256 Please sirs help me out

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:15:15 2023 No.10534465 >>10534256 >>10534394 there's a handful of christmas themed DBP wads

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:19:53 2023 No.10534471 File: 196 KB, 1366x768, amc0005.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Blow it out your ass!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:46:00 2023 No.10534527 >>10534471 WHAT IS THIS

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:47:31 2023 No.10534528 >>10534465 I need to find a counter strike server that goes through the Christmas maps

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:49:05 2023 No.10534530 >>10534527 AMC Squad Wet Dream

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 11:52:13 2023 No.10534535 Man playing on a laptop touchpad is horrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 12:31:45 2023 No.10534576 File: 19 KB, 860x864, Askmeamc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10534527

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 12:48:50 2023 No.10534594 File: 527 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (20).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WAKE UP

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 13:03:42 2023 No.10534608 >>10533440 >Elementals released >Caco hard

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 13:34:44 2023 No.10534657

Playing through Sigil 1 and 2 and replaying Romero's E1 replacement levels (20 in total) I realised how much better Doom 1 is compared to Doom 2.

D2 has awful new monsters, awful new assets (D1 art looks just much better), and a weapon that's kinda cool, but broke the classic rock paper scissors balance.

The only thing that should have been better in D1 and Sigil is the baron HP. Hell Knight is the only good D2 monster, if it's added to D1, D2 would be obsolete.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 13:35:27 2023 No.10534662 >>10534117 that wall trap legit made me jump in my seat a bit, really was unexpected thought i would get crushed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:05:57 2023 No.10534714 xmas_nipperhouse

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:21:18 2023 No.10534742 >>10534657 Talking about Sigil, what were new art in 2 other than the level end drawing and the 4 metal signs in E6M9?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:41:40 2023 No.10534787 >>10533440 >cyberdemon shoots modders consistently >graf loves delete >/vr/ rifle >fps means flats >nightmare bullets >slaughter elementals Those last two sound interesting...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:48:34 2023 No.10534804 >>10533420 What are some recommended Duke3D maps? I've been wanting to play some Duke but all the custom maps I try are trash.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:55:44 2023 No.10534818 >>10534804 can't go wrong with the roch series

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:57:20 2023 No.10534829

>>10533693
I tried to use MOUSE5 as a killbind in TF2 once (don't ask), but whenever I pressed that button it would do something else instead. MOUSE4 would make me crouch, if I remember right. I suspect they may be hardwired to mirror certain keyboard keys like Ctrl on some level.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 14:58:39 2023 No.10534832

>>10533432
>what's the general opinion about it?
Generally? Seems largely positive even if people are quick to point out the missing monsters. While I miss the viles and revenants as well, the lost soul and pain elemental changes are great. Doom + Hodges ambience leads to a very cool mood.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 15:01:23 2023 No.10534847
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It was just pointed out to me that the stimpacks and medikits of GMOTA had been healing extra all this time. 15 for stims and 35 for medikits.
I'd say this was something I did nearly 10 years ago assuming that was the correct health values without properly checking on the fucking wiki, and then never bothering to check over the years as I updated the mod.

Words fail me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 15:14:55 2023 No.10534891 >>10534847 I'd always thought that was initially intentional because of the old damage values and then I just assumed it was a weird holdover.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 15:40:46 2023 No.10534954 >>10534657 Doom 2 monsters is the reason the modding community is not dead, zoomie.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 15:51:23 2023 No.10534981

>>10534742
17 new textures, only 3 belong to Sigil 1, 14 belong to Sigil 2:

Alternative firewall/redwall (I reckon it was used in most levels instead of REDWALL, at glowing cracks and walls behind barons):
FLMWAL01 (animating)
FLMWAL02
FLMWAL03

E6M9 metal plates:
CYBERWAR (Cyber Warfare Center)
SECTOR7 (Storm Sector 7)
TRAINING (Training Field)
WASTE (Waste Storage Area)
METALPLT (**empty plate**, I'm not sure if this was ever used)

E6M5 sewer textures:
SEWERWAL (rock texture used in E6M5 exclusively)
SEWRWAL2 (green metal main texture)
SEWRWAL3 (green metal eddge texture)

Ending art:
SIGIL (pentagram bullface used for Sigil 1)
SIGILTX2 (big eye used for Sigil 2)

Skies:
SKY5 (brown sky used for Sigil 1, different from Doom 2's brown sky)
SKY5_ZD (wider Zdoom version)
SKY6 (blue sky used for Sigil 2)
SKY6_ZD (wider ZDoom version)

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 16:03:03 2023 No.10535008

With Sigil II making the Mastermind beefier (9000 HP compared to the original 3000) I have been wondering: would it be possible to make a Thing have custom features (stats, but also sprites, AI etc.) but for only a specific map (without having to create a copy with the edited value as a separate Thing)?
Something like this:

if mapstring("E6M8")
mastermindedits

Additionally, could this be expanded to weapons too? Meaning having the weapons sprites and/or damage change in certain maps only (or in certain episodes) without changing the player class?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 16:14:41 2023 No.10535032 >>10535008 I would love to see the barons nerfed to 500 HP in Ultimate Doom and Sigil, except for E1M8. Ot maybe beef the peashooter shotgun. 10 pellets instead of 7.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 16:22:33 2023 No.10535051 >>10534954 It's not the only reason but it's a lot of it, it rounds out the selection so you're not stuck using pinkies or cacos to have something that survives longer than half a second that isn't baron spam.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 16:48:02 2023 No.10535095 >>10535008 ZScript can be run on specific maps by either lump name or MD5 hash and you can do whatever you want from there. For any less advanced port, lmao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 17:27:52 2023 No.10535153 >>10534657 Some variant of this post is made every thread, but this is the first time I've seen someone claim that Doom 2's monsters are bad. Weirdo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 17:33:28 2023 No.10535165 >>10535095 >For any less advanced port, lmao. ACS is entirely serviceable on a lot of ports for the same shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 17:38:00 2023 No.10535180 >>10534714 BASED holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 17:50:13 2023 No.10535213 >no xmas quake jam this year yeah, that shows just how rotten tht community has gotten. rip another day, another tranny speedmap jam I guess

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 17:58:02 2023 No.10535239 >>10535165 Only zdoom-based ports support ACS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:06:10 2023 No.10535254 Someone should make an update for samsara. I want Lo Wang and Caleb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:13:49 2023 No.10535281 >>10535254 do we tell him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:25:26 2023 No.10535315 >>10533440 >schlop gun

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:38:57 2023 No.10535359

>>10534847
I assumed it was intentional because you're taking a few more hits than normal getting up close, and I'm just used to the idea of mods buffing pickups they consider underpowered like doubling health bonuses

>>10534657
wonder where anons like this were during the last project

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:43:58 2023 No.10535373 >>10533809 >The file you are trying to download is no longer available

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:44:17 2023 No.10535374 >>10535254 I think there was a Caleb add on

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:44:22 2023 No.10535375 File: 25 KB, 348x400, 1692292240354066.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10534594 NO___________

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:48:13 2023 No.10535383 >>10534594 that palette looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:50:25 2023 No.10535391 >>10535239 No, Eternity, Delphi, some of the Chocolate ports and a ton of other stuff supports it too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:52:14 2023 No.10535396 >>10534657 >doom 2's new monsters >bad Insipid tbhfam, even dumber than the complaining about the SSG. I'd tell you to go experience Plutonia, but I don't expect you to get that either. >>10535359 Not here, I suspect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:57:08 2023 No.10535407 >>10535032 Just backport the Hellknight, they are identical except for the HP, sound and recolored sprites.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:57:19 2023 No.10535409 >>10534657 Mouthbreathing baitfaggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 18:58:54 2023 No.10535414 >>10535391 None of those are relevant source ports that anyone uses.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:00:17 2023 No.10535417

>>10534657
>D2 has awful new monsters
This has to be a troll post. There’s a reason 90% of mappers use doom2.

>awful new assets
Yeah those brick walls and rock/dirt textures sure awful. Doom 1 was much better with the same recolored techbase walls and green stone everywhere.

>and a weapon that's kinda cool, but broke the classic rock paper scissors balance.
It didn’t break anything, try firing the SSG from a distance and see what happens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:03:08 2023 No.10535425 >>10535414 Go back to bed, Graf.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:04:50 2023 No.10535431 >>10535032 >10 pellets You realize that's an entire clip worth of bullets? The chaingun plays an important role in Doom 1 when things are too spicy for the shotgun

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:18:18 2023 No.10535472
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>>10535417
>try firing the chainsaw from a distance and see what happens
Oh no, what should I do with all those whooping 3 monsters on the other side of the room. And the other monsters standing in the way and eating all the bullets from them. When I'm only flying at pathetic mach 30 speed. Especially when the mischievous mapper only put 14 shells boxes instead of 15.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:19:31 2023 No.10535475

>>10535431
The chaingun is not a huge improvement in dps. Where it really wins is accuracy, fire rate, and stunning. It may be far less ammo efficient but it’s harder to waste those pellets.
>this got me curious how many bullets it takes to kill a baron
>87-107

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:47:46 2023 No.10535565

>>10535425
He'd be right in that nobody uses Eternity or Delphi.

>>10535472
Not all levels will shower you with shotgun shells and expect you to take everything with the SSG. The SSG is excellent at close range but terrible at a distance because the spread pattern is huge, if you can't reach to get closer to some monsters to get a good pattern on them with the SSG, then trying to engage with it is incredibly wasteful (before we even factor in if it's overkill or not for the given monster), which is where the SG or CG is more practical.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 19:53:28 2023 No.10535576 >>10535417 >>”the classic rock paper scissors balance” I’m curious what he meant by this in particular. >>10535472 >Especially when the mischievous mapper only put 14 shells boxes instead of 15. Which map by the way?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:01:53 2023 No.10535593 >>10535213 >no new Quasiotter kino it's so over

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:12:42 2023 No.10535632
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>>10535565
I just wanted to say for the hundredth time that I hate how we ended up with absolute majority of mappers using SSG as THE weapon while only relying on other weapons for specific scenarios.
Yes, it's not always the case, yes it's not jack of absolutely all trades, yes you also can use other weapons with it, yes pistol start might (or not) change it so you will use other weapons as well, yes it's THE Evil Dead weapon. That doesn't change the fact that it's the most used weapon in Doom period. How many big popular wads you can name where you use chaingun for at least half the playtime? Without starving for ammo, without gimping yourself, just using it naturally. Or a plasmagun? Meanwhile SSG? Every second non-slaughter wad probably.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:16:01 2023 No.10535645 >>10535632 So the solution is to make shotgun shells rare?

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:18:02 2023 No.10535650

>>10535632
>I just wanted to say for the hundredth time that I hate how we ended up with absolute majority of mappers using SSG as THE weapon while only relying on other weapons for specific scenarios.
This is just simply wrong and not true. I don't know how you even manage to come into such conclusion.

If you stubbornly choose to use SSG in every situation even though it clearly isn't optimal to do so then yeah I guess, but that's your own fault.

Stop blaming the game if you're bad at it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:22:33 2023 No.10535656

>>10535645
That's the only way I see without dehacking/whatever weapons since it's THAT good on its own. But it's much easier to just give the player infinite shells and call it a day than to balance enemy roster/placement around other weapons.

>>10535650
>git gud
Thanks anon, very valuable.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:23:29 2023 No.10535657

>>10535632
>How many big popular wads you can name where you use chaingun for at least half the playtime? Without starving for ammo, without gimping yourself, just using it naturally. Or a plasmagun?
>half the playtime
No gun is used half the playtime, not even the SSG. That being said chaingun is good in literally every level of every wad (where it's available). Doom 2's arsenal is excellently balanced between SSG, chaingun, rocket and plasma/bfg. Stop complaining and start playing the game, holy fucking shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:25:45 2023 No.10535663 >>10535656 >>git gud >Thanks anon, very valuable. It literally is that simple. You're apparently too bad at the game to realise the value of all the weapons. Instead of spending days on 4chan moaning about it, you could try actually playing the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:33:25 2023 No.10535689 Hey Doomers, this just dropped 2 hours ago, and includes interviews with John about the dev tools behind Doom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b74vNajqCcA

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:39:17 2023 No.10535702

>>10535645
>>10535656
Here's my solution: faster switch speeds.
It takes a whole second to swap weapons by default, which encourages holding onto the SSG as it is the most generalist weapon. The scenarios where the SSG isn't a good choice often are cases where taking the time to swap weapons isn't an issue (enemies far away, for instance).

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:41:00 2023 No.10535706

The chaingun, but good;

1. Make it only ever do 5 damage, with no deviation.
2. Make it fire an alternating 2-3 pellets per shot in a side-by-side pattern. The first shot of a trigger pull always does 2, the second always 3. Still only consumes 1 bullet ammo every 0.115s.
3. Make it penetrate through a single enemy to hit whatever is behind it.

Actual good crowd control, with damage dictated by range rather than luck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:50:51 2023 No.10535723 >>10535706 The chaingun is already good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:51:51 2023 No.10535726 >>10535723 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:52:16 2023 No.10535728 >>10535726 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:53:13 2023 No.10535731 >>10535728 Weak. Pitiful. Annoying firing sound. Ugly viewmodel. Awkward firing rate. Ugly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:54:00 2023 No.10535736 >>10535731 Accurate. Able to stunlock most monsters. Plentiful ammo. Obtainable by killing a common enemy type.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:55:15 2023 No.10535738 >>10535736 >Plentiful ammo Lost me here.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 20:59:52 2023 No.10535748

>>10535731
>Weak. Pitiful.
Stunlock.
>Annoying firing sound.
I wouldn't say annoying, but it still sounds like a peashooter.
>Ugly viewmodel.
>Ugly
True.
>Awkward firing rate
Only because visually it is a minigun, which one would expect a much higher rate of fire out of but the actual rate of fire doesn't reflect that. It should have been a rifle instead.
>>10535736
>Accurate
I wouldn't mind it was a little bit more accurate, just a little bit.
>Plentiful ammo
Lel.
>Obtainable by killing a common enemy type
Depends on the wad.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:00:33 2023 No.10535749

>>10535656
>That's the only way I see without dehacking/whatever weapons since it's THAT good on its own.
Compared to what? It’s only better than the shotgun, chaingun, and pistol in the most ideal circumstances of landing all pellets.
>>10535702
>It takes a whole second to swap weapons by default, which encourages holding onto the SSG as it is the most generalist weapon.
The vanilla switch speed with vanilla SSG reload speed makes it a poor choice to have out if multiple chaingunners happen. If you buff all the switch speeds, I feel you should buff the monsters as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:01:40 2023 No.10535756 >>10535748 >I wouldn't mind it was a little bit more accurate, just a little bit. It's already perfectly accurate if you tap it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:02:07 2023 No.10535757 >>10535748 Chaingun is 100% accurate if you click the shots and loses only maybe 5% of firing speed vs. holding down the button.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:04:41 2023 No.10535762 >>10535756 True, but tapping the minigun is one the most gayest thing you could do with a gun, easily on par with mlp painted Springfield.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:05:39 2023 No.10535763 >>10535762 No one cares.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:07:47 2023 No.10535770

>>10535749
>multiple chaingunners
It's one of the situations you don't want the SSG, but even if that's what you have in hands, one chaingunner is out while you run for cover. Might even kill two with a single blast.
>what if they're far away
Then you probably have space to backtrack.
>what if you can't backtrack
Then you kill one to open space and hide behind another while they shoot each other.
>If you buff all the switch speeds, I feel you should buff the monsters as well.
You don't really need to because for most wads you're already gonna be fighting a much higher number of monsters compared to vanilla. Instead of making them stronger individually, which is lame, you just fight more of them at once, which is cool.
>>10535756
Like the other anon said, tapping is gay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:19:32 2023 No.10535791 >>10535213 what am I supposed to do now? play doom xmas wads instead?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:24:02 2023 No.10535803 >>10534657 Good bait. It's a good thing you don't actually think this.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:25:41 2023 No.10535806

>>10535770
>>what if they're far away
>Then you probably have space to backtrack.
>>what if you can't backtrack
>Then you kill one to open space and hide behind another while they shoot each other.
I can sit and spin spending 20-40 bullets not worrying about any of this while stunlock bullying them to death.
>Might even kill two with a single blast.
You said it right: “Might”. You might not and if you don’t kill them both, you are taking damage. You make a good point against it being a good weapon to have out all the time.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:28:45 2023 No.10535817

>>10535806
Yeah, the SSG is not at all optimal for that situation. The point is that if you do have it on hand, you will be able to do at least something half useful with it for most scenarios and due to the slow switch speed, you'd tend to have that equipped while exploring the map and be less incentivised to switch to a different weapon. All of that together contributes to other weapons not being as used as the SSG.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:32:04 2023 No.10535824 >>10533421 Eviternity II RC4 update released. https://eviternity.dfdoom.com/

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 21:45:21 2023 No.10535852 >>10535824 did they nerf the op gun

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:04:00 2023 No.10535898

>>10535817
>you'd tend to have that equipped while exploring the map and be less incentivised to switch to a different weapon.
No thanks. It’s often more painful shooting and switching from the super than shooting and switching TO it. Vanilla switch speeds added with the super shotgun reload speed can make you very vulnerable.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:10:18 2023 No.10535920

The Shadow Warrior Mapping Kit archive been updated with new tiles, check it out. I'm also going to try my hand at making an infographic for Sum Ting /vr/y Wong since the project seems a bit nebulous currently. Trying to settle on a deadline, I'm thinking between 5-8 months would be accommodating for most people.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:10:43 2023 No.10535923

>>10535852
EVITERNITY II RC4 CHANGELOG:
GENERAL CHANGES:
Replaced OSKY20 and OSKY36 textures to allow for vertical tiling.
Removed surplus assets that were previously included in the WAD.
Repaired the implementation of the Minor Sprite Fixing Project.

MAP14:
Changed some grass flats to better match the cliffside vines they're connected to.
Fixed a midtex bleed near the eastern angel pillar.
Swapped a shiny metal wall texture to a concrete one for consistency.
Fixed some fake sectors in the sliding puzzle room.
Fixed some more texture alignments throughout the map.

MAP33:
The MIDI has had some volume adjustments to fix a minor glitch.

MAP36:
Sectors that erroneously got changed properties in RC3 amended to make the map completable again.
Miscellaneous texture alignments and tiny fixes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:11:04 2023 No.10535926 >>10535898 >Vanilla switch speeds [...] can make you very vulnerable. That's the whole point I've been trying to make ever since I joined in on this conversation. The vanilla switch speed is way, way too slow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:12:08 2023 No.10535928 >>10535852 That was RC3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:18:48 2023 No.10535939 >>10535926 My point is it’s great. I like working around that vulnerability. When I’m in the mood for some Quakefast switchyshooty I play Babel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:29:22 2023 No.10535968 Thanks youtube recs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3stBOCDqJNk

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 22:41:21 2023 No.10536003 File: 48 KB, 712x345, 1691216024273614.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10535472 >try firing the chainsaw from a distance and see what happens

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 23:30:59 2023 No.10536114
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>>10535762
That was a Mauser, and not only was it not a "valuable German SS Mauser" like /v/ believed back in the day or whatever, but a Yugoslavian M48 Mauser.
It was not a particularly collectible or valuable example by those standards either, as it had been chrome plated, was poorly 'force matched' by Mitchel's Mausers (ergo it had replacement parts which had their serial numbers redone to make it look like it's all matching), and the fucking thing wasn't even safe to shoot because of it.

Some anon actually bought the hunk of shit from the tripfag in question, removed the sticker and the blue housepaint to then refinished the stock, and then had the dangerous headspacing fixed. So people who didn't actually know shit about the subject matter were acting outraged over something they really didn't understand or know anything about (time is a flat circle), and which was fucking fixed not soon afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 22 23:32:42 2023 No.10536123 File: 86 KB, 500x393, a fair price.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10535762 >>10535770 I'm onto you, you long ranged bald sniping fucks.

Anonymous Fri Dec 22 23:34:54 2023 No.10536132
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I stop playing Doom back in 2019 however recently I got back into it by replaying all of Doom and Doom 2. I realize that I never played TNT: EVILUTION before so I decided to change this with a first time play through. I plan on doing about 5 levels a day if I can. So for map 4 Wormhole is the best one.

I am playing this on the Eternity Engine with SmoothEternity enable. Once I am done playing all the original commercial levels for Doom, I plan on trying out Heartland and all the other Eternity exclusives. Any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 00:08:52 2023 No.10536206 sigil 2 kinda ass compared to 1

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 00:55:08 2023 No.10536318 100 minutes kinda tits compared to previous minuteses

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 00:58:30 2023 No.10536325 I’m mapping, I swear!

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:04:10 2023 No.10536338
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>go to check out new ut99 maps on ut99.org since i haven't been there for a while
>50% of them are conversions of unreal sp maps to monster hunt
>40% are "existing custom ut99 maps with unreal monsters scattered throughout" from evilgrins the retarded capeshit boomer
>10% are actually new maps

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:05:07 2023 No.10536340 >>10536132 tnt kinda ass compared to plutonia, thoughbeit sneed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:19:27 2023 No.10536387 why didnt anyone ever make an rpg using doom engine

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:20:48 2023 No.10536393 >>10536387 There's Korax mod for Hexen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:20:56 2023 No.10536394 >>10536387 Remember when they tried to make an AD&D game using the Descent engine?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:33:12 2023 No.10536425
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>>10533457
More reason for the GZDoom dynasty to collapse by 2029-2033. Zandronum, K8vavoom, Crispy, and Eternity are where its at. If Skulltag could get fucked over and end up 6 feet or more under, then GZDoom and its mods can get exposed in a way at least somewhat like the Escapist's financial woes. Gawker's filing for bankruptcy, the downfall of Viceland, both ratings-wise and investor-wise, then so can the scum that is the majority of the ZDoom discord and forum mod team be exposed as groomer trash, or both that, and substantially-severely mentally screwed up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:36:38 2023 No.10536435 >>10533420 what would you recommend for a first playthrough? >doom 3 vanilla or bfg? >quake 2 yamagi q2 or enhanced?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:39:02 2023 No.10536439 >>10536435 >Doom 3 Vanilla >Quake 2 The remaster.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:43:15 2023 No.10536454 >>10536425 Why do you hate gzdoom so much? I don't even play much with it but I'm glad it exists. I think it's really cool

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 01:59:25 2023 No.10536494
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I fucking LOVE ultimate doom in name only. It's brutal but feels ultimately fair. Definitely earned its cacoward.

Play it if you haven't. It's probably my favorite vanilla-style wad now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:03:13 2023 No.10536510 >>10536435 Vanilla D3 exe if you can manage it. Otherwise I'd go with the dhewm3 sourceport and avoid BFG. For Q2 the new port is fun, but Yamagi is better for vanilla. I haven't tried Enhanced.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:11:49 2023 No.10536539 >>10536439 >>10536510 Vanilla or source port got it, looking at the requirements for the remaster I don't think it'll run very well on my old hardware lol will try yamagi

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:22:28 2023 No.10536562 File: 30 KB, 127x158, BunbyCatcherArt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10536325

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:22:36 2023 No.10536563 File: 13 KB, 418x359, 1681158596289672.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't believe you can run DOOM on you telephone. What a time to be alive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:23:30 2023 No.10536567 File: 927 KB, 1232x1542, Strife_US_box_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10536387

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:25:03 2023 No.10536570 >>10536563 The real question is - can DOOM run Bad Apple?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:25:50 2023 No.10536572 >>10536567 shite

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:28:41 2023 No.10536580 >>10536570 https://youtu.be/eLobzm_f1SQ

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:32:59 2023 No.10536590 >>10534657 I actually do agree with Doom 1 (including Ultimate Doom) being better than 2, in terms of tighter level design and balanced difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:35:33 2023 No.10536596 Controversial Opinion Doom 2 is as good as Doom 1/Ultimate Doom

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:36:10 2023 No.10536601 >>10536580 What functionality of DOOM is that actually using, though? Just a series of fullscreen bitmaps?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:48:23 2023 No.10536643 >>10536563 There's a video of a guy running DOOM on a pregnancy test.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 02:52:32 2023 No.10536656 >>10536601 It's an animated texture and a synchronized sound.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 03:27:35 2023 No.10536751 >>10536425 I just want another port to support dynamic lights, no bully

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 03:30:09 2023 No.10536759 >>10536751 MBF21+polyobjects+colored lighting like PS1 would be all I need

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 03:51:33 2023 No.10536795 94 protons never

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 03:54:00 2023 No.10536803 >>10536795 2024 is our year

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 03:54:30 2023 No.10536804 AdMortem final update when?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:18:46 2023 No.10536857 Why does gzdoom look like shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:23:31 2023 No.10536864 File: 104 KB, 1920x1080, Anything past 200px is a heresy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10536857 Skill issue

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:28:42 2023 No.10536878 >>10536864 what are your settings

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:39:00 2023 No.10536897 File: 60 KB, 400x408, 1675401013668177.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10536123

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:43:54 2023 No.10536906

>>10536878
1.00 scale factor and display resolution in video mode settings, download Vanilla Essence mod (I used one called 'Vanilla Extract' from latest forum thread page) and tweak its configuration up to your liking to have widescreen res and whatnot.

Or you could ignore Vanilla Essence and just turn off texture filtering alongside setting Sector Light Mode to "Vanilla" or "Software". You could also reduce scale factor to achieve some pixel chunkiness, just don't set it to lowest possible. Custom resolution with width of 480 should work too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 04:45:42 2023 No.10536909 >>10536906 >display resolution main resolution of your monitor*

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:08:34 2023 No.10537132 >>10536906 >I used one called 'Vanilla Extract' What's the difference between this and Essence?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:35:31 2023 No.10537181 >>10536857 Because the project lead decided to include absolutely absurd default settings out of pure spite.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:36:57 2023 No.10537184 >>10537181 Thank god you can remove those filatures

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:37:13 2023 No.10537185 >>10536878 The most important thing is to enable software renderer and disable particles and decals.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:37:25 2023 No.10537187 >>10537181 >spite I just think he's that autistic, has shit taste, and is too lazy to manually set that shit himself so he makes it the default so he never personally has to fuck with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:42:17 2023 No.10537203 When will GZDoom have support for actual Doom

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:44:02 2023 No.10537207

>>10537187
He's said that the filtering as a default sets GZDoom apart from other ports as something more... Or some such. And I don't think he's entirely wrong. I see playthroughs from non-doom autists that have that filtering or more smudgy upscaling etc. Normies like that shit.
I don't. But I don't think he's totally wrong to use it as a selling point. Tho nothing is sold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 07:50:54 2023 No.10537221 >>10537185 >particles and decals There's more than that, might as well use less complex vanilla port at which point. Plus to mention, software mode might have worse performance depending on case.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 08:07:05 2023 No.10537250 >>10536857 https://rentry.org/doomconfigs

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 08:21:52 2023 No.10537280

>>10537250
>Save as: autoexec.cfg
Wouldn't this confuse newbies even more? You can't change these from the menu unless you brave yourself deciphering word salad and comments from txt file. Nice formatting nonetheless, can't say much about the settings. Why would anyone need help with nugget?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 08:26:11 2023 No.10537287 for as much as Sandy doubts his own ability to make Doom maps I would not be against playing a WAD if he made one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 08:29:24 2023 No.10537292 >>10537287 Stalk forum's wads section, he might submit something at any minute under a false name

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 08:30:34 2023 No.10537296

>>10537280
Well, agree to a point, I'm a newbie too but I scan the gzdoom wiki and doomwiki, cvar settings etc. to see what they mean and how to make it more personalized.

Agree for Nugget lol even DSDA really but I thought I'd just upload my configs and people will personalize as needed,

Retro is there just cause the defaults are a mess but I don't really use it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 09:15:13 2023 No.10537343

>>10536425
>k8vavoom
Not when the dev is a stubborn mule who absolutely refuses to acknowledge MBF21 and not when you can't even play GMOTA because of sbarinfo stuff and Final Doomer is too hacky for its own good and the port doesn't appear to do 2.8.1 featureset.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 09:58:57 2023 No.10537393 >>10534847 I had a post typed out for this but my emotions are more eloquently summarized here https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZeHmdJnny4

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:06:01 2023 No.10537405 File: 19 KB, 360x450, Adam Shambler.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:15:59 2023 No.10537424 File: 193 KB, 1600x960, TNTL4 end.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10536340 >>10536132 I have heard about that for TNT. so far I liking it. Who knows what I will think for the later levels?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:26:08 2023 No.10537436 name some things scarier than ghouls forest

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:33:18 2023 No.10537442 >>10533432 i've seen some people refer to it as the real doom 3

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:40:10 2023 No.10537449 >>10537221 Well, in my opinion one should never use gzdoom anyway unless you want to play gameplay mods. The non-software renderer looks fucking awful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:46:21 2023 No.10537459 >>10537449 Turn off the filter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:48:09 2023 No.10537465 >>10537459 Doesn't help at all because all the sector lighting modes look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 10:59:29 2023 No.10537489 >>10537465 The dark one looks fine.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:01:02 2023 No.10537492

>>10537489
Your mom's ass looks fine while I'm playing DOOM on Nugget and she takes my nugget like ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh ungh instead of playing GayZDoom

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:04:52 2023 No.10537501

>>10536425
Skulltag was behind on the ZDoom codebase long before it was hijacked and turned into Zandronum (which is still behind, with the devs resolving to never catch up).
What the fuck is K8vavoom supposed to offer?

>>10537343
Well, this anon is making it sound like a fucking turd of a port. Way to honor a beloved user's passing with a sourceport which insists people do not use it.

>>10537492
Play HFFM.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:09:02 2023 No.10537502 >>10537185 I prefer unlimited colors and perspective correct 3D. Bulletholes, brightmaps, and dynamic lights are just nice bonuses, as is full monster-player collisions. The blur filter is the only offensive part.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:11:09 2023 No.10537505 >>10537502 >brightmaps you mean the GOOD SHIT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 11:55:42 2023 No.10537582 >>10537505 Brightmaps are so gud. Bless.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:02:54 2023 No.10537594

>>10537501
>which is still behind, with the devs resolving to never catch up
Still pisses in my grits how many ZDoom wads are out of reach for multiplayer because they're for 2.8 while Zan is, what, 2.3? Then you've got Odamex which IIRC doesn't have Decorate because of when its fork line started. Far be it for me to gauge how hard of a task it would be to get something more recent with netcode that doesn't twist my nuts until they're blue, but god I wish there was at least some rumblings of somebody trying to fix this shitty situation.

It doesn't help that so many people see co-op as a needless extra, or how some have even taken to calling it a "zoomer social-addict thing," albeit mainly to try to excuse why so many retro-inspired strafe shooters nowadays don't even have P2P lockstep co-op.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:07:14 2023 No.10537604

When it comes to small hitscanners, there is "Good Design", "Cruel But Fair Design", "Bad Design", & "Retard Design".
In Serious Sam 3, there are riflers and shotgunners. They react at a consistent speed, and consistently die from 2 minigun bullets, or 3 pistol/assault rifle bullets. When they take damage from anything, they flinch and become unable to attack. This is good design.
In Serious Sam 4, there is a sniper. It makes its presence abundantly known with a massive laser sight and an audio cue. It takes a little bit to fire, but if you let it, it deals considerable damage. It dies in 2 bullets from any weapon at any range, and can be flinched by 1. This is good design.
In Blood, the Cultists react nearly instantly, deal absurd damage, and take a little bit of punishment. However, they are consistently flinched by your weapons, have predictable movement patterns, and always die in a consistent amount of shots. Additionally, you can lure them out into more opportune fighting areas, you have several options for blind fire to avoid direct confrontation, and you can crouch to throw off their aim. This is cruel but fair design.
In Duke Nukem 3D, the Enforcers react quickly and take a little bit to kill, but deal absolutely pitiful damage that will never in a million years offset the health kits you receive. They do not get flinched by small arms damage, at least not consistently. A complete pointless enemy. This is bad design.
In Doom 2, the Chaingunners react at completely random intervals, have inconsistent pain states, and each specimen takes a wildly different amount of small arms shots to kill, sometimes requiring 2-3 shells or 10 bullets to down. If they aim well, don't flinch, and don't die in a respectable amount of time, they can outright kill you, but under optimal conditions, they accomplish absolutely nothing. This is retard design.
Fodder hitscanners need to be a threat, and also reliably dispatched by your own hitscan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:08:35 2023 No.10537605 Nice AI post.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:10:51 2023 No.10537606

>>10537594
Not to mention stuff like MBF21 now.
>It doesn't help that so many people see co-op as a needless extra, or how some have even taken to calling it a "zoomer social-addict thing," albeit mainly to try to excuse why so many retro-inspired strafe shooters nowadays don't even have P2P lockstep co-op.
I don't know what these people are on, I had a NuDoom fan try to convince me that deathmatches were never a big thing in Doom.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:11:41 2023 No.10537609 File: 359 KB, 988x1318, 1703333493292.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537605 god i wish this wasn't a video games board so i could safely filter "AI" without missing something important like on every other board spent 10 minutes on that

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:16:17 2023 No.10537619
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HO HO HO HOLY SHIT. IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! I WISH YOU MOTHERFUCKERS A MERRY CHRISTMAS! NOW'S THE TIME TO STUFF THE STOCKINGS OF PROGRESS! DECK THE HALLS OF MAPPING! WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:20:21 2023 No.10537625 File: 4 KB, 464x176, glitzy gold gun.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537619 I'm still stuck on figuring out a look for the new Wrathcaster. But I put together a big gaudy pickup sprite for the big gaudy chaingun

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:40:08 2023 No.10537649 >>10536864 >>10536906 kino

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:43:54 2023 No.10537651 File: 6 KB, 194x259, download.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >BRO MBF21 >BRO ETERNITY >BRO DEHEXTRA Yeah yeah cool, I like Chocolate Doom, go away now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:46:20 2023 No.10537653 >>10537651 based

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 12:50:58 2023 No.10537660

>>10537501
>What the fuck is K8vavoom supposed to offer?
If it actually has decent Client/Server netcode, then it seems the immediate benefit is that ZDoom 2.8 maps that didn't work on Zan were able to work on K8V, albeit I only tested the DPK02 wad. It also tried to make an effort to load maps/wads that were designed for GZDoom if they don't have ZScript, but most of them froze after picking a difficulty (e.g. Lullaby, Ar Luminae), with an exception in Simon's Destiny actually loading the map itself but failing to load Music, HUD, and Enemies, which I must assume were scripted.

I'm an idiot and don't know what all this means, and whether it progressed to that point because it actually is getting support or just because it loaded despite missing/mis-referenced assets until the point that said things were attempted to be loaded, but there's at least some maps that K8V can run that Zan can't and potentially might have support for more if it keeps going.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 13:24:30 2023 No.10537720

>>10537660
He seems eager to reply in immediate and comprehensive manner whenever asked about technicalities, when he has time to afford a reply anyway. Life business takes a toll on his coding plans so he makes plenty of compromising cuts from what I get, anon should ask him on DB about certain port prospects if there's an interest. I kinda like k8v personally, only that I'm too accustomed to skatey movement physics to replace that with zdoom y2k modern shooter rigidness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 14:49:08 2023 No.10537851 File: 128 KB, 1024x1024, DnZAtNwW4AAW1pI.jpg_large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537651

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 15:02:28 2023 No.10537876 File: 381 KB, 500x672, 1543602045129.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ZScript has function pointers now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:01:57 2023 No.10537954 File: 2.34 MB, 2560x4312, merge.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537619 Block out progress and a bit of detailing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:06:38 2023 No.10537969 File: 2 KB, 396x412, well done.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537625 Looks very naise

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:10:25 2023 No.10537976 >>10537969 Anyone made a Thomas The Tank Engine TC?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:23:06 2023 No.10537997 >>10537976 >thomas the tank engine TC >gameplay is literally on rails, can't walk anywhere, only forwards and backwards >jump is replaced by a horn >crouch replaced by satisfying pressure relief hissssssssssss

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:23:13 2023 No.10538000 >>10537976 lmao probably not. You could have that one dude with the claw go around pinching people and that would be fucking hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:27:35 2023 No.10538014 >>10537976 >plays like the Naked Gun intro except with a locomotive >all music including stuff like level end stats replaced with the theme song

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:30:57 2023 No.10538026 >>10537976 >>10537997 >>10538000 >>10538014 It should have this theme too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfiUYij5UE&ab_channel=Norkkom

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:37:06 2023 No.10538032 >>10536596 I'll be more controversial. It's better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:44:19 2023 No.10538046 wtf everyone told me plutonia was harder than tnt but it's the opposite

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:54:52 2023 No.10538060

1 I continue TNT.
2 I continue Master Levels.
3 I pirate a monetized GZDoom total conversion mod and then go on the Steam discussions to tell the devs all the ways that it sucks.
4 Ditto, but for Ion Fury Aftershock.
5 I buy a non-retro "retro fps" game that's 80% off and fuck around with it for a bit.
6 I play that Realm's Deep Marrow campaign for Blood that stole my game's name before I could use it.
7 I play some expansion for Duke. Maybe World Tour if I can get it running in a decent port. Honestly Duke is such shit please don't be 7.
8 I play Spear of Destiny. The one without the fucked up sounds and sprites.
9 I eat something while watching other people play games and then wonder why I'm not playing games myself.
0 I boot up Poweslave Exhumed until the poor design decisions and hitboxes make me bash my face against the wall (est 30 seconds)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:55:54 2023 No.10538064 motherfucker

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 16:58:29 2023 No.10538067 up and coming doom toober poster a new video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWBjs9cML4o I shill for free

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:14:59 2023 No.10538094 What happened to Quake? This year hardly anything has been uploaded to quaddicted, and not much has ended up on slipseer in the last few months either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:15:29 2023 No.10538096 >>10537604 nice to see someone with sane opinions regarding the oh-so awful hitscanners in SS3 for once

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:29:43 2023 No.10538128 >>10537851 OK Graf.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:31:29 2023 No.10538134 >>10538094 Just move on to doom.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:36:17 2023 No.10538147 quake with doom weapons?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:45:34 2023 No.10538178 >>10537851 Why does he cry cum?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:46:32 2023 No.10538181

I was iffy on Project Malice when I first saw it, because it looked like someone just put a creepypasta filter on overused R667 assets (which is sort of true) but after playing it I think it might be my favorite monster mod tied with Legion of Bones. The premise of making everything eviler and edgier works, everything is thematically tied together, everything's harder but still reasonably designed (mostly) and it makes clever and restrained use of GZD scripting to make some unique enemies. I also appreciate the focus on weird fodder/ambient enemies to fill out a map. This whole mod is like the Demonicron I never got.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:49:28 2023 No.10538190 File: 2 KB, 125x119, 1690684697626481s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10538094 it's over

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:50:16 2023 No.10538191 Is there a way to make the 1 key select the chainsaw if I don't have a bezerk pack but select the fist if I do? Without the 'zerk the chainsaw is much more useful but the 'zerk pack changes that.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 17:55:30 2023 No.10538202

>>10538096
It's only the Technopolyps that are scary, but they're used sparingly and when you have cover or means to deal with them.

Big hitscanners are a lot harder to mess up than little hitscanners. Can't fit as many in one space, can't hide them, have to build encounters around them instead of shoehorning them into places they don't belong, have to supply burst damage ammo that's clearly meant for killing them, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:02:16 2023 No.10538209 >>10538190 >just give up and Let it rot Nah.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:12:37 2023 No.10538228
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>>10538209
i guess the last few months have seen quite a few Quake mappers temporarily move on to Q2 to either start new projects or adapt old mods to the new port.
i wouldn't worry too much about it, Q1 will be back on the table soon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:20:58 2023 No.10538239 >>10538060 >5 I buy a non-retro "retro fps" game that's 80% off and fuck around with it for a bit. for a bit yeah sure but boltgun sucks even when you don't judge it from a retro fps standpoint

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:38:20 2023 No.10538262 >>10538228 There's that, but I think there might be a few other factors. A lot of quake mappers were actually employed in the game industry, and a bunch have been fired. Maybe they don't have the luxury of free time anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:40:23 2023 No.10538271 >>10538239 Why can't we have good 40K shooters?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:54:27 2023 No.10538294 >>10538271 you do there's 3 of them all made by streumon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:12:06 2023 No.10538334 >>10538147 Quake with doom weapons and enemies would actually be good

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:17:30 2023 No.10538347 CHRISTMAS MODS PLEASE

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:22:43 2023 No.10538353

Why is smooth doom more popular than smooth weapons enhanced? I only got to know about the later when some anon commented on it. It's great, all the cool weapon animations, optional fast switch toggle and it doesn't break wads with custom enemies or barrels or stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:33:00 2023 No.10538374 why doesn't smooth doom for dsda work with tnt.wad

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:45:26 2023 No.10538404 >>10538353 Because it came first.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:54:29 2023 No.10538428 >>10538262 true

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:56:27 2023 No.10538432 >>10538404 Smooth weapons came before smooth doom. Smooth doom even uses the weapons from smooth weapons enhanced.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:03:44 2023 No.10538443 File: 750 KB, 1761x984, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The Floppy Disk mod for Zandronum has actual functioning voice chat How the fuck. Did Zandy 3.2 add this without anyone noticing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:19:17 2023 No.10538470 I'm trying to remove all the vaseline smearing from GZDoom, but even with texture filtering and antialiasing off there's still some blurriness to the pixels. With Vanilla Essence on it goes away. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:33:26 2023 No.10538502
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>>10538470
Make sure textures filtering is set to
>None
and not
>None (but sometimes yes)

Also
>High Quality Resize Mode : Off
>Multisample : Off
>Classic Transparency : Vanilla / Auto (Vanilla Preferred)
>Fuzz Style : Software

Also check your resolution, for 16:9 you need something like
>428x240
or
>856x480
otherwise you might get mixels everywhere, especially in fonts.

And for the maximum vanilla graphics you either have to set
>Render Mode : Software
or if you want to use Hardware rendering then set
>Banded SW Lightmode : On
>Tonemap Mode : Palette

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:53:09 2023 No.10538534
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>>10538502
unfortunately there's still a problem. Hopefully the screenshot is big enough, when zoomed in there's a bunch of tiny transparent pixels, it's almost like the image isn't scaling properly. Happens at any resolution, even native.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:59:45 2023 No.10538545 >>10538443 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:23:00 2023 No.10538583 >>10536596 >>10538032 I'll be even more controversial. DOOM 64 is better than both. >>10538067 >I shill for free Pretty sure it's always "shilling for free" when you promote your own shit... Well, at least in cases like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:23:13 2023 No.10538585 >>10538334 Why is there no source port with "Doom in Quake format" maps?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:27:53 2023 No.10538593 File: 23 KB, 1006x162, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10538534 This one maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:33:45 2023 No.10538610 File: 30 KB, 863x558, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's how it looks for me. It will have these tiny pixels no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:36:15 2023 No.10538625 >>10538593 not it either. I fixed it by reinstalling GZDoom, now it looks like yours. It must've been some setting I changed to try out Doom Infinite, idk

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:40:14 2023 No.10538639 >>10538610 Maybe turn on FXAA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:19:40 2023 No.10538746 >>10538639 I'm not using any form of anti-aliasing in Doom ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:25:53 2023 No.10538761 Finished Sigil II 7/10

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:41:25 2023 No.10538790 Is there a reason why keep butchers drake enemies? The hell hounds don't shoot fire, the hell lords are gone to kona, the flesh things shoot spawns just like the vomitus etc. And are there plans to fix this?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:51:53 2023 No.10538819
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just played some Duke Nukem 3D and didn't like it
was only the first episode, explored everything I could and had no idea where to get the red key. checked the map and all the edges were clear, going in circles, shot a few cracked walls with an RPG, even used the jetpack a bit, but nothing
even beside that I'm just not really a fan of the setting or character

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:52:03 2023 No.10538820 Has the paid version of sigil ii been shared yet?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:15:43 2023 No.10538874 >>10537405 Cursed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:16:48 2023 No.10538876 >>10538209 Oh so are you going to make maps then? Huh? Huh? Huh? HUP

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:20:13 2023 No.10538885 >>10538502 Map name?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:29:18 2023 No.10538910 >>10538885 E1M1: Hollywood Holocaust (Heretic)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:34:28 2023 No.10538928 >>10538094 >What happened to Quake? People like you don't map, that's what happened.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:42:05 2023 No.10538949 Best/Worst Sigil II map? Best/Worst track?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:42:28 2023 No.10538950 File: 1.46 MB, 1280x768, mj4m2_2023-06-28_02-33-42.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10538094 Peril Rotting Jam The Spiritworld Deathmatch Dimension Re:Mobilize The Warden Alkaline Dwell Brutalist Jam 2

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:08:51 2023 No.10539020
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Okay...
Can some give me some suggestions on what should Humphrey's voice use for his skin?, I don't know what to use honestly. Also, it would be a good idea to tweak a little but his mugshot or not?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:23:36 2023 No.10539050 File: 416 KB, 2048x1536, 319321484_518988500258972_7214526274158963629_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anybody got link to a nice winter themed texture wad for doom?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:36:44 2023 No.10539075 >hurr muh 100% completion completionists and uvmax tards make me puke. they might spend 30 minutes humping doors to find a secret all while claiming they are enjoying it. it makes me SO ANGRY

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:38:19 2023 No.10539079 >>10539075 Who are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:42:36 2023 No.10539086 How slaughtery is Whitemare? The first episode is pure slaughter, is the whole wad gonna be like that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:48:32 2023 No.10539097 From the description of Dreamchatcher Apparatus, recommended by some anon: >dbp47_gzdoom_strict_bugfix.wad = fixes a secret in MAP04 that is unobtainable when playing in GZDoom Strict. What is GZDoom Strict? How do I know if I'm playing on it or not?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:49:42 2023 No.10539103 >>10539086 Map 20 is one of the hardest maps ever made if that means anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:54:07 2023 No.10539113 >>10539103 oh, that was whitemare 2. still, Russian Realism maps aren't exactly made with reasonable challenge as priority

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 01:02:47 2023 No.10539123 >>10539097 I would assume it's the "Doom (Strict)" compatibility preset

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 01:10:07 2023 No.10539136 >>10537405 Blessed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 01:26:57 2023 No.10539164 File: 360 KB, 640x480, Screenshot_Doom_20230729_184708.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537625 Decide on a name for it yet? >>10538181 The blood and gore is also very good. I like that this guy has the Bomber sounds from Dying Light.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 02:13:03 2023 No.10539263 Merry Christmas, Mac.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 02:55:14 2023 No.10539339 >>10539164 Yeah, I'm going with Reign Storm. I think it's a perfect fit for the weapon and the arsenal as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:03:54 2023 No.10539365 >No Quake Christmas Jam this year This sucks. Maybe it's for the best though, it'd probably be yet another copper release...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:07:00 2023 No.10539373 Does Eviternity 2 work on Nugget yet? Yes, I could use DSDA, but I'd rather use a lighter source port and I like nuggets gibbing features.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:08:54 2023 No.10539376 File: 509 KB, 1039x611, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537619 Not really playing much FPS lately, doing dungeon crawling and making waifus to send into the dungeons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:09:27 2023 No.10539379 >>10539263 i don't think he's coming back, anon...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:12:27 2023 No.10539385 >>10538950 Half of that was earlier this year. Like February.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:20:10 2023 No.10539404 >>10536897 >Watching decino's stream earlier >He shows us that in NERF they've made this meme a thing and chaingunner asses now jiggle when firing >He spent an uncomfortably long time doing it too

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:29:18 2023 No.10539427 >>10539379 good. he single handedly turned this place into reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:37:25 2023 No.10539456 >>10539376 Is that green stuff supposed to be... a fart?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:38:38 2023 No.10539459 >>10539456 Poisoning in the dungeon comes in all forms, including gastic distress from eating a Mimic I suppose

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:50:41 2023 No.10539475 >>10539113 >>10539086 Both Whitemares are slaughtery.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 03:56:12 2023 No.10539495
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>>10537954
Loving it. I need to start playing this game again.
>>10539164
>Unloved
>Strange Aeons
>EDay
These were all fun recommendations for Deathstrider, got anymore in mind? I was thinking of Exomoon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:07:16 2023 No.10539535 >>10539373 At least, RC5 launches in Nugget 2.3.1. I know of someone who's been playing through an earlier RC in Nugget 2.1.0, it seems to be fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:13:38 2023 No.10539541 how the fuck do i beat map36 on eviternity II this has to be a joke

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:15:07 2023 No.10539546 >>10539541 you got rc3?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:16:12 2023 No.10539548 >>10539546 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:26:32 2023 No.10539564 File: 52 KB, 154x215, image-18.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10539075 >they are enjoying wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:47:01 2023 No.10539605 File: 431 KB, 887x759, 1674486593544540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10537619 Tried to make a worldspawn geometry into a func_wall, then convert it into a light brush but Quake doesn't like it. Thought I was being clever, dang.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:50:01 2023 No.10539616 >>10537619 I appreciate the Christmas additions to the image :3

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:54:38 2023 No.10539631
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>>10537619
Finally put some coherent sights on my SSG replacement, like everything else it's fully semi automatic (cycles in 4 ticks) and the whole clip of 5 does 600+ damage but it needs to be reloaded with great care

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 04:56:09 2023 No.10539639

>>10539339
I didn't come up with that one but I hoped you were going with it.

>>10539495
Well the one in that last screenshot was the Darkmoon alpha. Unfinished but still neat.
https://files.catbox.moe/g0wp9l.zip

I also did one for Pirate Doom just for fun. I haven't played this at all so I don't know if it gets fucky other than some decorations on the Deathstrider being replaced.
https://files.catbox.moe/u9llcq.zip

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 05:03:57 2023 No.10539668 >>10539605 >light brush There's no such thing, anon. Lights are only point entities. You can set up surface lights for specific textures, but the compiler will still just make a string of point lights around it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 05:11:24 2023 No.10539691 what are some good wads if I'm into labyrinthine / abstract map design

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 05:12:10 2023 No.10539693 >>10539691 Eternal Doom.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 05:16:54 2023 No.10539707 >>10539691 Cyberdreams and Archvile Jump

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:21:41 2023 No.10539931 Constant Quake releases don't have to be a thing. Jams were a bad idea to begin with, at least in how they were implemented more than the idea itself.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:32:18 2023 No.10539949
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Quake without REAL Nightmare enemies is worthless, and so is every custom campaign/map/mod built around fake Nightmare/Copper's conventions.
This is not debatable.
But Copper debatably killed Quake mapping by making the game boring as a standard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:34:20 2023 No.10539953 File: 186 KB, 674x949, 1700846041807131.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10539949 Copper aktschually got a very recent update that changes its Nightmare to be more in line with Quake. Pic related. It's actually quite fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:45:54 2023 No.10539970 >>10539953 Okay, now do all that but make the enemies attack faster too

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:46:51 2023 No.10539971 File: 61 KB, 1043x77, 1688279675893776.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10539970 Anon.................

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:48:45 2023 No.10539973 >>10539971 If you feel that behavior for those particular enemies is an improvement, then fine but everyone else still attacks slower, and that sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:49:28 2023 No.10539979 >>10539953 Is it really that fun? Haven't tried this mod so it'll be an excuse for me to replay Q1 over the holidays.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:53:08 2023 No.10539982 File: 38 KB, 747x57, 1677936691336356.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10539973 >but everyone else still attacks slower ANON.....................READ THE IMAGE

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:54:09 2023 No.10539985 File: 63 KB, 747x109, 1682131947532385.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10539973 ????????

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:55:43 2023 No.10539991 >>10539982 Projectile speed isn't attack speed. >>10539985 This could very well be slower overall than standard Nightmare fare.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 07:57:18 2023 No.10539994

>>10539979
It's a new and challenging way to play Quake. It's certainly harder than vanilla Nightmare, which may or may not be fun to players.
>>10539991
I'm playing it right now, death knights and knights both charge faster and swing faster. Dogs attack faster, it's all faster anon.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:02:25 2023 No.10540000
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>>10539994
Grunts fire in volleys like the ogres, faster than vanilla, strange that that's not on the webpage. Enforcers DEFINITELY fire faster than vanilla.
>>10539991
I think you'll be satisfied man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:03:21 2023 No.10540002 >>10539994 >>10540000 I can't believe it. No, really, I can't. My biases won't let me. There has to be a caveat. They had to mess up something. Show me a side by side comparison for every Nightmare enemy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:05:02 2023 No.10540005 >>10540002 >Show me a side by side comparison for every Nightmare enemy. I'll give you one webm because I have work in 10 hours and I'm about to do my nightly routine. It's 5mb man, give it a whirl. Brb making webm of enforcers from E2M1.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:17:13 2023 No.10540017 File: 2.72 MB, 1920x1080, 1686374610295653.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10540005 >>10540002 Actually two webms because I didn't feel like editing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:19:44 2023 No.10540021 >>10540017 game changer. now i have a reason to maybe install quake again

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:21:48 2023 No.10540027 >>10538610 That's how it should look unless you use high resolutions.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:22:31 2023 No.10540029
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>>10540017
The grunt has pauses between volleys, but each volley fires faster than a vanilla nightmare grunt, and as you can see in the final seconds of this webm, he can fire in volleys of 5, 100% faster than vanilla grunts.
>>10540021
That's vanilla. Were you bitching about these changes without actually being used to Nightmare?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:24:24 2023 No.10540032 >>10537132 >>10536906 H-hello?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:54:25 2023 No.10540070 >>10540017 >>10540029 Cool. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 09:21:54 2023 No.10540114 >>10535770 >Instead of making them stronger individually, which is lame, you just fight more of them at once, which is cool. Your brain is wired backwards.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 09:33:16 2023 No.10540128
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Quake 3 texture wads for Q1 mapping.
https://mega.nz/file/RUAmSCqb#S-QtXZklNeGYcR4ZEkIP5ErZMLzOkxzh_TgtR0ySxtQ
https://mega.nz/file/dMRniTzD#h9ejnCuw1rykfNpyg55zkcZVcbTcfkSLVxTSZnh7izg
I'm shocked this hasn't been provided before, not on quaddicted, slipseer, or anywhere. Two wads, q3textures and q3_dm17.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 09:45:25 2023 No.10540137 Sucks but I just learned Doomworld isn't going to feature DBP wads anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 10:02:38 2023 No.10540158 >>10540137 When did they ever?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 10:15:42 2023 No.10540170 >>10540158 I know Augur Zenith was a Cacowards runner-up and I could have sworn there was at least one other one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 10:22:11 2023 No.10540178 File: 100 KB, 1563x881, ride.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do you properly compile the sentinel`s lexicon from github? readme says to just run .bat lol, but the file ends up like 3 megs big and has you stuck in some void on launch.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:09:00 2023 No.10540238

>>10539931
I liked the yearly Jams, but I guess I can just play the older ones this year.
>>10539949
>Copper killed Quake mapping
I agree, but even as someone who dislikes Copper it's not the fault of the mod, rather the little cult surrounding it who act as if any new release MUST use it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:42:50 2023 No.10540273 >>10540170 DBP16 Cyb's Colonoscopy

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:44:54 2023 No.10540354

You are tasked with making some kind of Copper for Doom. Most new release will use your mod as a base.
Add:
- 2 new monsters; can be variants
- Pistol minor changes
- Baron has less health Y/N
- Faster wapons switching Y/N
- Any other small changes that improve all kinds of gameplay at all difficulties and don't break other maps
Describe the new monsters or variants and how they would improve the roster.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:53:51 2023 No.10540374 >>10540354 Nerfing the Baron's health is pointless when Hell Knights already exist. I'd just give them a different attack.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:57:30 2023 No.10540380 >>10540374 Smooth Doom gives them some extra attacks. Nothing too crazy, but I like that. What else would you do, other than that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:02:42 2023 No.10540391 >>10533432 It's the atmospheric black metal of the doom series. On first release I considered it mediocre but it aged really well. Final boss is a fucking scumbag though

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:18:14 2023 No.10540424 File: 44 KB, 1024x720, 1624238970441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there just no Christmas jam for Quake happening this year? What gives?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:18:49 2023 No.10540427 >>10540354 I'd refuse, because Copper was a fucking disaster for the Quake community and doing something similar to Doom would be further salt in the wound.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:20:55 2023 No.10540430

>>10540424
Perhaps they couldn't work out how to completely convert it into Copper or something.
I'm of the impression Arcane Dimensions is a dirty word(s) in the Slipseer community these days.

Honestly though, the one from last year was kind of neat as long as you avoid the usual Mazu attempt at a "magnum opus".

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:31:06 2023 No.10540461 >>10540427 I dont follow Q anymore, but whats wrong with Copper and the mapping community?

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:38:50 2023 No.10540494

>>10540461
They overuse it to an absurd degree because the developer is very much in with the group of newfags who have taken over.
It provides no new content - instead marketing itself as an objective improvement to vanilla Quake. The problem is it makes a bunch of pointless, annoying changes in addition to genuine bug fixes - including (until very recently) utterly neutering nightmare mode.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:39:25 2023 No.10540495

>>10540430
Christmas jams are always a fun time, especially with the 1024x1024x1024 limitation since that forces you to make a nice and sweet compact space for the gameplay to happen without stretching your map on for infinity (bonus points if you include some Christmas theme too or at least make it snowy). There's some amazing maps that came out as a result of that such as Roba el Ehaliyeh

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:57:32 2023 No.10540532

>>10540354
>new monsters
>significant health debuffs to big enemies
>switch speed changes
That’s a lot more than what that Quake mod is doing, and a lot more than what the mod used to do prior to its recent changes.
Something similar for Doom would at least have lost soul health lowered. Some enemies would need a higher pain state chance. If we were thinking of the initial Copper mod, it would need to nerf Doom’s nightmare skill.
If you want to mirror the new changes of the mod, revenant balls could stop homing in once you kill the revenant that shot them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:03:39 2023 No.10540539 >>10540532 All new megawads come with a modified pistol and some monsters changes/new monsters. That was the point. Forget about Copper

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:13:20 2023 No.10540552

I'm not really enjoying Eviternity 2 (I'm on the second level of the second episode). I think I'm tired of the idea of playing huge levels with no challenge, only to come across an arch ville in the middle of an arena full of monsters in the last battle...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:17:24 2023 No.10540560 >>10540552 That's not how the maps in eviternity 2 are though. Also, are you losing health/armor little by little going through the map? Are you wasting ammo on stuff when it could be used to solve big fights?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:18:26 2023 No.10540562 >>10540552 Sounds a lot like Lost Civilization. I wanna play.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:26:52 2023 No.10540571 >>10540539 >All new megawads come with a modified pistol and some monsters changes/new monsters. That was the point. Some mods, like Dwell, also add new enemies for what it’s worth in this conversation (which isn’t much).

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:29:44 2023 No.10540575

The difference between doom and quake when it comes to custom stuff is quake relies on base mods which by nature are very divisive within the community, and doom relies on standards widely implemented by all relevant source ports. There are no common standards in quake and that's why it's suffering.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:39:33 2023 No.10540596

>>10540560
It's unbalanced at the moment (I'm on level 7 I think), 95% of the levels are too easy for 5% of the challenge. And so far there have been 3 difficult fights, and they've all followed exactly the same formula, trap you in an arena, launch a wave of monsters and surprise, one or two arch villes!

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:50:23 2023 No.10540614

>>10540575
>There are no common standards in quake and that's why it's suffering.
There would be if people actually took advantage of modern engine features.
Something that should be a monumental step forward like CSQC is hardly even used, and even then only for HUDs. Menus with extra options, client-side effects like weather, and more elaborate 3D viewmodels (i.e. multiple models playing different animations at once) are all possible but completely ignored.
MD3 models are a lot more versatile, way easier to work with, and can be used with the exact same QuakeC animation code as MDL, but nobody bothers because there isn't a spoonfeeding tutorial on how to export from Blender for use in Quake.
Drastically better physics and optimization can be found in the Quake 3 map format, but the newfags are afraid of having to use the caulk texture, so newer engines like Ironwail and vkQuake don't bother supporting it.

I see Doom bros giving chicken man a lot of shit over things like forcing filtering on by default, but at least you're seeing tangible progress that people actually take advantage of.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:58:02 2023 No.10540632

>>10540614
>I see Doom bros giving chicken man a lot of shit over things like forcing filtering on by default, but at least you're seeing tangible progress that people actually take advantage of.
It's not chicken man's developments that keep doom fresh because everything he does stays strictly tied to one specific port. It's the widely adopted standards like MBF21 and UMAPINFO. Hell, chicken man has been reluctant to implement those standards into his port while other relevant ports embrace them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:06:04 2023 No.10540648 >>10540632 >UMAPINFO Does he know?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:07:15 2023 No.10540649 >>10540648 It's by chicken man but the implementation in gzdoom is incomplete.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:10:28 2023 No.10540659 >>10540649 I thought everything he does stays strictly tied to one specific port.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:14:56 2023 No.10540671

>>10540354
>Most new release will use your mod as a base.
I object to this, I wouldn't mind some people using it, but I don't want it getting stale by everyone doing it.

>2 new monsters; can be variants
A weak trash monster which is a melee only zombie. Basically a decoration you fight for what it matters, but it'd fit for some things, for instance mowing down throngs of them.

Then a take on the Motherdemon, probably just the D64FD2 version.

>Pistol minor changes
Fires twice as fast, then does a quick reload every 15th shot. Makes it better, more useful, and more fun, but without intruding on the Chaingun's role. Chaingun can tap for single shots, and has a 3 tic frame cycle to be slightly faster, no reloading.

>Baron has less health Y/N
No. Him having lots of health is part of his role, and there's zero point when there's the Hell Knight.

>Faster wapons switching Y/N
Sure.

>Any other small changes that improve all kinds of gameplay at all difficulties
Improved blockmap so melee is better.
Spider Mastermind moves a little faster and has a slightly smaller hitbox value (96 instead of 128). Only the Cyberdemon, Motherdemon, Arch-Vile, and other Spider Masterminds can target it, Spider Masterminds will now switch targets on a dime and will thus eagerly mow down smaller enemies in retaliation, with nobody caught in the crossfire daring to reciprocate. Big bosses can now reciprocate infighting with Arch-Viles, they're not about to take each other's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:25:36 2023 No.10540689 >>10540632 If we are here in the first place talking about, its mostly thanks to the chicken man, you fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:28:37 2023 No.10540697 >>10540614 Ok but who do you want to blame if even basic tutorials and guides are missing for new features? It's only natural that people stick to what they are comfy with.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:30:44 2023 No.10540704

>>10540671
I'd rather just have nobody target the Mastermind. It was meant to be the final boss, so monsters should be equally scared of it as they are the Archvile. Masterminds being hitscan means it's really easy to get them caught in a death loop with one another.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:31:01 2023 No.10540707 >>10540659 UMAPINFO was not developed for gzdoom. Anyway, it's pretty weird that he, who came up with the standard, hasn't bothered fully implementing the standard in his own source port.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:32:00 2023 No.10540712 Graf uses PrBoom in his free time

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:33:18 2023 No.10540716 >>10540689 When it comes to UMAPINFO, yeah. Still doesn't change the retardation that's gzdoom and what it does or does not support.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:34:42 2023 No.10540724 >>10540716 Here we go again, forcing another "gzdoom bad" discussion for no apparent reason. Fuck off already it's Christmas

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:46:58 2023 No.10540754 >>10539953 >Zombies come back even when gibbed booooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:51:41 2023 No.10540762 >>10540354 Isn’t this supercharged/minicharge? I know minicharge actually nerfs the barons health

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 15:57:31 2023 No.10540776
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>>10533421
Threw together an infographic for news posts and it turned out better than anticipated. Merry Christmas /doom/, make sure you spend it with family.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:00:14 2023 No.10540782 >>10540776 Merry Christmas anon. i love the title btw

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:05:15 2023 No.10540792 >>10540782 Right back at you anon, thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:07:55 2023 No.10540796 >>10533421 BYOC 1.5 released. https://revenatn.itch.io/byoc

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:16:42 2023 No.10540819

>>10540114
Bigger fights equals bigger fun, anon.
I'm not endorsing slaughter maps cause I still want cool map design and fights that aren't just revenant spam, but finishing a fight where you kills lots of enemies is more rewarding that finishing a fight with one strong enemy.
Most boss levels in vanilla DOOM 1 and 2 suck because of this. It's just one open arena with one strong enemy and maybe some supporting fodder. None of them are hard nor do they feel rewarding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:21:36 2023 No.10540828 >>10540819 I dislike Doom2 final level. In fact, E1M8 for me is the best boss fight Doom has to offer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:24:29 2023 No.10540836 >>10540828 >I dislike Doom2 final level Because the Icon sucks big time. That one I agree is the absolute worst boss fight in the series. >E1M2 The only one with two bosses instead of one, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:25:25 2023 No.10540838 >>10540796 >No GZDoom support What's the point then? Zandronum is way too behind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:29:54 2023 No.10540846 Just put doom enemies/weapons in quake using the iwads

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:30:12 2023 No.10540847 >>10540838 >What's the point then? Multiplayer. This was made with playing co-op in mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:33:56 2023 No.10540859 Are the steam releases of Doom 1+2 and Quake 1+2 worth playing or should I look into other engines? I have already finished Doom 1+2 a few years ago and I want to replay them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:36:57 2023 No.10540864 >>10540859 They are the easiest way to play the games if you are too lazy to get source ports. They are fine.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:42:21 2023 No.10540878

>>10540819
Actually he brings up a good point regarding your "balancing mod" idea: Are you balancing the switch speeds off of vanilla monster counts or whats in "mods", and if so which ones?
>>10540859
They start to get less accurate the newer they are, for better and worse.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:43:00 2023 No.10540880

>>10540847
Seems like a massive waste of effort that could've been spent elsewhere. Vast majority played MoP and various Complex Doom forks or straight up MM8BDM and they will continue playing them no matter what. What does BYOC have to offer? Loads of classes to choose from? Samsara Reincarnation does that and also works on GZDoom while still being made with MP in mind. Yes, it's jank as hell, but I can actually play it on GZDoom with cool GZDoom stuff. BYOC only has the classes that aren't complete jank that are wasted on supporting only Zandronum for no good enough reason.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:44:50 2023 No.10540882

>>10540614
I agree with your points, but disagree on caulk. QBSP already culls faces that are out of the map, and the skip texture can be used to not draw faces on brushes marked as detail. Improving your workflow in TrenchBroom, such as using the built in compilation tools (and not using that outdated Necro's compiling GUI) and setting up compile profiles is where the real optimization lies.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:46:23 2023 No.10540887

>>10540880
I don't think it was a waste of effort. The BYOC boys still play it to this day, and I don't regret my own contributions.
I also don't consider my own efforts for Zandronum compatibility for my projects to be a waste. I don't expect big servers for my projects, but I know there's people out there that play my shit.

Also Samsara Reincarnation is terrible.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:47:29 2023 No.10540895

>>10540878
I don't know, I can't into coding.
I added a line to Smooth Doom's weapons that speeds up switch speed and if I'm using a wad that conflicts with Smooth Doom I use Smooth Weapons and that has a toggle for faster switch speed. That's what I do and it makes the game more enjoyable to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:47:54 2023 No.10540897 >>10540880 Don't read into it too hard, it was made for Pizza Tower devs to goof off on break before being uploaded to the wider internet

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:50:38 2023 No.10540904

>>10540887
It's terrible, but it has the one thing that BYOC should have had. I can boot it up on GZDoom and have a grand ol' time with Corruption Cards that aren't an ancient alpha version. I can even add Gun Bonzai and Colourful Hell/Legendoom/DRLA monsters/whatever else that doesn't work with Zandronum.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:53:30 2023 No.10540912

>>10540904
There's actually an older version of corruption cards that works with Zandronum. You're right about that other shit, though I personally find gun bonzai to make things overpowered to the point of boring, and colorful hell is a mess. Losing out on LegenDoom and DRLA monsters does suck though.

Don't know what else to tell you, other than to not worry about it and move on, there's plenty of other mods out there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:55:23 2023 No.10540918 >>10540912 >There's actually an older version of corruption cards that works with Zandronum It's an ancient (alpha) version. CC went a very long way since then.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 16:57:11 2023 No.10540923

>>10540882
Go look at the wireframes of any Quake 3 map vs any Quake 1 map. The compiled Quake 3 BSP will only have just as many triangles as it needs to create a face from the editor, whereas the Quake 1 BSP splits things into a ton of extra polygons - which is a huge issue with the larger and more detailed modern maps. Those extra splits in Q1BSP also greatly increase lighting compile times, and the likelihood of lighting errors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:07:28 2023 No.10540945 >>10540887 >Also Samsara Reincarnation is terrible Shame. Had hope for it because samsara is my favorite mod (still).

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:08:52 2023 No.10540949

>>10540945
I love Samsara too but those guys fucked it up in ways that are almost impressive. Really Reincarnation is just a culmination of every shitty halfassed additional class people have tried to make for the mod all lumped up into one horrid package.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:13:17 2023 No.10540957 CC is the best single mod ever made in modding history. Period. It's the only reason I play on gzDoom

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:14:17 2023 No.10540959 File: 41 KB, 500x500, 1370745176103.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10540957 >mfw earthquake card It's always so goddamn funny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:16:50 2023 No.10540965 >>10540959 Have you seen the new update with banana peels?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:17:29 2023 No.10540969 >>10540965 I haven't, that sounds hilarious, what do they do exactly?

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:18:20 2023 No.10540973
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>>10540895
>doing things that make the game more personally enjoyable
Oh. You do you, that's great. Talking about "quick switches" for weapons in general, it can make the "lame" weapons more appealing i.e. quickly getting that pistol out when a caco survives two super shotguns.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:19:46 2023 No.10540979 >>10540859 the steam versions of doom are censored

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:27:05 2023 No.10540994 is there a Gzdoom setting or bug that's breaking collision for fence linedefs? i've been walking through fences in both eviternity 2 and ad mortem

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:29:52 2023 No.10540997

>>10540973
I like the most about it is that it makes me use other weapons more. If it takes too long to switch, I'm encouraged to use a weapon that's no ideal for a situation because that's what I've got on hand and switching would waste time.
There are several weapons that in normal play I just don't touch much because of that and now I'm using the whole arsenal way more. Even the pistol sees more use because as you said it helps finish off cacos if they survive two SSG blasts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:30:53 2023 No.10541000 >>10540979 How?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:33:04 2023 No.10541004 Why are the classic ports in BFG edition still a thing? Delete them

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:39:56 2023 No.10541020 Thoughts on Freedoom?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:41:18 2023 No.10541024 File: 442 KB, 1200x836, Doom Silent Night.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] post christmas edits

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:41:57 2023 No.10541027 File: 11 KB, 758x666, Hissmas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10541024

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:43:05 2023 No.10541030

>>10541020
it's getting places but there needs to be less tire spinning replacing the pistol and shotgun every two months and more finishing a mastermind replacement
and the sounds basically need wholesale replacement
maps, music, textures, most weapons and enemy sprites are fine

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:44:54 2023 No.10541036 File: 43 KB, 512x511, filian2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10540178 actually tried browsing the archive for once. where the fuck do you get the actual maps from? the automatic builds like doesn`t work either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:09:05 2023 No.10541075 >>10541000 green crosses instead of red ones on health packs no swastikas in the wolfenstien levels

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:29:26 2023 No.10541124 >>10541075 Take the issues to Valve and id.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:29:38 2023 No.10541125 File: 710 KB, 1920x1080, Jingle Bells.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Oh! Jingle bells, jingle bells >Jingle all the way >Oh, what fun it is to ride >In a one-horse open sleigh, hey!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:40:36 2023 No.10541142 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPCLctYYAJM

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:41:20 2023 No.10541149
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>>10540997
This next bit's just spitballin: I've seen some shooters also have "weapon dependant" switch speed, like having a sidearm switch faster than an assault rifle.
>>10541024
Not really an "edit" but have it anyways.
>>10541124
Are Quake's health kits still uncensored? I thought it was just a "Doom" thing but Q2 went and had theirs turned green as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:48:44 2023 No.10541159 >>10541149 For the my edit of Smooth Doom I've kept the slow switch speed of the BFG. For the Smooth Weapons mod, the toggle affects everything and it's in ZScript so I don't know how to edit that. Maybe one day I'll not be lazy and fix it...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 19:22:10 2023 No.10541216 >>10538819 Duke hasn't held up that well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 19:45:36 2023 No.10541273 >>10540754 ngl Copper sounds retarded

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 19:47:15 2023 No.10541279 are we playing zandronum this christmas?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:02:50 2023 No.10541312 File: 178 KB, 1366x768, amc0008.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:11:41 2023 No.10541337 >always thought it was zanondrum >it actually is zandronum my lufe is a kie valso im drunk

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:27:19 2023 No.10541383 >>10537203 Hello anon, I hope you're doing well. GzDoom already supports Doom. Merry Christmas!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:27:53 2023 No.10541385 >>10541337 Have a glass of water and a cup of coffee.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:29:06 2023 No.10541389 File: 880 KB, 500x500, DUKE NUKEM 3D.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10538819 >>10541216 One day, you guys will see the light.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:34:39 2023 No.10541402 >>10538819 Play Redneck Rampage next. You’ll have a fun time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:35:55 2023 No.10541407 >>10541402 You're an evil anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:37:22 2023 No.10541410 File: 957 KB, 832x865, 1671948802859661.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] as one of those anons who makes themself take Christmas off from browsing 4chan, a very merry one to everyone ITT, lurkers and posters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:37:58 2023 No.10541413 >>10541389 Honestly, even modded Duke just doesn't hold up all that well. I love the potential the Build Engine offers, but the shooting just feels off compared to Doom.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:51:44 2023 No.10541453 SNS today?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:54:32 2023 No.10541460 >>10541453 HELL YEAH FAGGOT!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 20:57:34 2023 No.10541464 >>10541453 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:10:02 2023 No.10541487 >>10541410 Merry Christmas

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:22:25 2023 No.10541510 >>10541216 It's held up great. You people are gay. Merry Christmas though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:23:31 2023 No.10541514 >>10540979 Steam versions still come with the original releases + dosbox.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:26:34 2023 No.10541524 File: 195 KB, 1280x720, Elf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:26:50 2023 No.10541527 >>10541149 I think Quake 1 dodged the red cross issue by not having it on a white/light background, they included alternate health kit textures with big red square lights in place of the crosses, but didn't end up using them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:31:52 2023 No.10541534 >>10541524 >elf They do be like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:33:51 2023 No.10541537 >>10533420 >try to recreate gibby (from apex) gun shield ADS thing into chaingun >sometimes zooms in and out till it goes zoom Man coding is hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:40:58 2023 No.10541554 >>10541124 The issue really is with the Red Cross being dicks, they never went after Valve or anybody big but they go after indie studios and went for id who were pretty small and isolated at the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:43:36 2023 No.10541562 playing doom (brutal)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 21:58:09 2023 No.10541601 >>10541562 Enjoy, anon. I don't see the mass appeal in Brutal Doom, but for some reason a lot of people do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:02:21 2023 No.10541607 >>10540461 Nothing truly wrong with it, but it's always disappointing to see a big Quake jam and it uses Copper. I still play them because I love Quake, but I'd rather they used a mod that has the mission pack content.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:02:39 2023 No.10541608 >>10541562 It's perfectly fine to play BD, maybe the back end is janky but there's no sense being caught up in 13 year old drama where most of the people involved have moved on.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:02:53 2023 No.10541609 [DELETED]

>>10534158
>>10534161
>>10534167
Hey yeah I'm the asshole who made that. yeah, that was my edgy phase. I was 15 when I made that shit, now I'm an unironic femboy faggot who regularly selfposts on /gif/ and occasionally /trash/

I'm still making Doom maps, by the by. I won't ever post them but they're out there.

Also I don't recall ever having a mental breakdown from that.

>>10534308
>>10535373
I lost the files, sadly. And the download link to the anniversary edition was nuked with account deletion I did to cover my tracks. I don't even know what the fuck happened to them; but I'll most certainly take a good look into my old partition. I'm a linuxfag so I got a few partitions on my computer.

Maybe a Christmas miracle will happen and we'll see a rerelease.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:05:03 2023 No.10541616 >>10540754 Ehh I don't mind it. Zombies are a non-threatening entity in vanilla Quake and vanilla Nightmare Quake. They're always awesome window dressing, but little more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:16:25 2023 No.10541645 >>10540859 The Steam release of Q2 is the best way to experience Q2. All the others are OK I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:19:51 2023 No.10541650 >>10541645 A great shame they nerfed berzerkers into the ground.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:19:54 2023 No.10541651 Dukes nuclear winter sucks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:22:40 2023 No.10541657 >>10534087 I don't think the racist edge lord is the Marxist bruh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:34:21 2023 No.10541683 >>10533421 J.A.C.K. (Half-Life, Quake map editor) updated for the first time in over a year https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/496450/view/3882730411551484355

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 22:49:51 2023 No.10541709 Merry Christmas everyone, and peace in Hell.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:01:37 2023 No.10541734
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SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW!
It's Christmas time babyy! Time to play some Byoc 1.5 and Christmas Cheer from the Chillzone.

Name: "[TSPG] Sunday Night Shitshow 15: Byoc Xmaschill
Password: "xmastime"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:08:31 2023 No.10541752 >>10533440 >graf loves delete big mmm

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:46:46 2023 No.10541841 File: 161 KB, 1366x768, shot0000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hardcore difficulty is filtering me. I only won this map through luck. Also, I hate the plasma gun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:15:15 2023 No.10541901 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWj-ZRCNkN8 Thoughts on CountryCide? This looks amazing.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:18:58 2023 No.10541908

>>10541683
So you're telling me JACK is now updated more often than Trenchbroom?
>Background Images in 2D Views
Ah good, now I can fail at making models of big titty women from reference pics in JACK just as hard as I do in Blender.
This really is great though, and should make handmade recreations of maps from other games way easier as long as you can get a top view of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:20:45 2023 No.10541913 >>10541908 >So you're telling me JACK is now updated more often than Trenchbroom? TB got updated earlier this year and was updated several times before that so no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:25:39 2023 No.10541925 >>10541901 Instead of finishing TrenchFoot, they're already making spin offs... It's great and all, but how long has this been in the works for now? 2 years?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:28:27 2023 No.10541930 >>10541913 Yeah, but it's been mostly insignificant changes since linked groups. Still not having prefabs or a shape constructing tool is pretty sad. Vertex manipulation is also extremely lacking compared to JACK or Netradiant Custom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:29:34 2023 No.10541934 >>10541930 I just use the other two when I want to make an advanced shape and I put them into TB because it's definitely got the smoothest interface.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 00:57:02 2023 No.10541980 >>10533427 >:O

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 01:11:29 2023 No.10542009

>>10541841
Mynx is deceivingly strong on hardcore I think.
>>10541389
I wouldn't mind this game if it did not have so many explosions. It feels like every second wall you look at is an explosive trap that explodes in your face and leaves Duke either dead or badly wounded. When you add exploding enemies, hitscanners, enemies with rocket launchers, the game's weird love affair with crushers and damaging floors to the mix, it becomes an experience that I come away from feeling way too drained.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 01:30:04 2023 No.10542036 >>10536114 Valuable or not it was an eyesore. Kinda funny though. I've seen people do worse to guns though. Fuckin internet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 01:54:52 2023 No.10542073 File: 51 KB, 579x721, 1696514456300693.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10541734 and merry xmas

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 02:06:22 2023 No.10542084 File: 73 KB, 251x288, 1699886979431125.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10542009 >I wouldn't mind this game if it did not have so many explosions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 02:08:25 2023 No.10542089 File: 478 KB, 1024x1536, sns15beaters&map32escapers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10541734 >>10542073 GGs and Merry Christmas to everyone.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:13:33 2023 No.10542243

>>10542009
>walk into a room in a Build game
>get obliterated off the mortal coil by opening a door from the wrong direction
>walk into a 1mm height difference on a wall and burst into treats
>everything explodes and kills you
>jump on the table and walk across a sink, get sucked into bugged level geometry and folded into non-euclidean origami

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:19:38 2023 No.10542257 >>10542243 My least favorite part of Build games is the inconsistent item drops. It sucks the most in Blood because E1 starves you of resources if you get bad rolls on enemy kills.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:21:28 2023 No.10542261 >>10542089 Aw I got home too late and missed it all Lousy 3 hour delay

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:24:14 2023 No.10542265 >>10542261 Merry Christmas anyway, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:29:10 2023 No.10542280 >>10542243 Build confirmed for the 1990s equivalent to Gamebryo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:30:57 2023 No.10542284 File: 764 KB, 1920x1080, Base Profile Screenshot 2023.12.24 - 21.29.17.67.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10542265 Aye and to you and everyone else too

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:47:37 2023 No.10542330 >>10542243 why is build engine so buggy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:49:43 2023 No.10542335 >>10542280 Gamebryo is the 90s equivalent of gamebryo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:53:44 2023 No.10542345 File: 886 KB, 1920x1080, Mini Santa Claws.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:01:17 2023 No.10542358 >>10542243 Killer doors are a Build engine hallmark. You can make swing doors stop when they contact the player, but all of mine smush them because it's funny as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:01:22 2023 No.10542359 File: 3.65 MB, 640x360, IMG_1635.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Doom E4M6

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:03:31 2023 No.10542364 >>10542335 HUH?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:06:17 2023 No.10542371 >>10542089 Merry crumbs Thanks for playing our mod

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:06:54 2023 No.10542372 >>10542364 Gamebryo started in 97, it just changed name later on. Build is only 2 years older.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:37:25 2023 No.10542461

>>10542243
Only the first one is a common problem IMO. I mean, there's lots of explosions, but that's cool and good, don't be gay.

>>10542330
Because Ken Silverman could not communicate with people, and thus help devs understand or solve problems they had with his autistic engine. It's not userfriendly for programmers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 04:58:55 2023 No.10542518 merry christmas, anons, I love you no homo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 05:16:20 2023 No.10542554 File: 143 KB, 800x978, big nukem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is duke the only fps game with a Christmas expansion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 05:33:06 2023 No.10542589 >>10542461 I vaguely recall that John Carmack was both confused and impressed by the Build engine, which suggests to me that all of its feats were creative jankery that will fall apart under certain conditions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 05:40:36 2023 No.10542606 >>10542554 Painkiller: Hell & Damnation had a Christmas-themed level released, but it was just a low-effort reskin of Train Station.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 07:13:11 2023 No.10542749 >>10542589 Wonder if Build 2 has these same failings. I kinda wanna use it for something, but I'm probably not smart enough. MERRY CHRISTMAS, BTW, /DOOM/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 08:11:05 2023 No.10542805 File: 232 KB, 1485x986, image-37.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] next OP image

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 08:16:08 2023 No.10542812 File: 142 KB, 756x661, 1485989612150.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10542805

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 08:46:39 2023 No.10542845 File: 31 KB, 264x392, BRUPBRUPBRUPBRUPBRUPBRUPBRUP[sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fvhsgij.mp3].gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Captcha: MMGAYD

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:00:29 2023 No.10542954 I guess I'll ask my question in the next thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:18:12 2023 No.10542978 >>10542954 Why is your favorite map e2m1?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:48:22 2023 No.10543029 >>10542554 Does Team Fortress 2 count?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:50:23 2023 No.10543035 cool monster crafting https://youtu.be/VN5pcwY8yZk?si=IkwVZmAHspJb6r8S

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:51:09 2023 No.10543037 File: 75 KB, 601x1765, 1577193515988.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's that time of year again, /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:52:10 2023 No.10543039 File: 79 KB, 584x2217, 1577193581010.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10543037

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 10:58:20 2023 No.10543059 File: 81 KB, 612x2157, 1577193954925.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10543056 Merry Christmas, Doombros.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 11:07:11 2023 No.10543076 >>10543056 Rude of him to ignore Heretic and Strife like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 12:18:21 2023 No.10543191 File: 641 KB, 727x765, sofa20001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10541683 Would be cool if someone uploaded it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 12:41:06 2023 No.10543224 [DELETED]

>>10533860
>>10534158
>>10534161
>>10534167
Hey yeah, hi, I'm the asshole who made that. I actually made the original sneed claus when I was only 15. Fast forward a few years, and yeah, it was certainly an "edgy phase". I'm now unironically a hot femboy who regularly selfposts on /gif/ and /trash/. I still do make Doom maps, but nothing ever in the realm of ZDoom mods - just maps.

>>10534308
>>10535373
Yeah, I deleted the mega account that hosted Sneed Claus Anniversary as a way to "cover my tracks". Lots of shit that I made when I was underageb& has just been silently wiped off the internet as a way to avoid future problems for me. I've checked, and although I have the files for the original Sneed Claus, I don't have the files for Sneed Claus anniversary. Why? I don't fucking know why. I'm a bit saddened by this, but it is what it is.

Maybe we'll have a Christmas miracle and some anon with a copy can reup.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 12:50:04 2023 No.10543235 >>10543224 I'm sorry that you were groomed by pedophiles on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:27:58 2023 No.10543276 File: 308 KB, 646x595, 1688709575116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:40:12 2023 No.10543283
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Fuck this noise. It's time for...
iD ...!
GAMES ...!"
ROULETTE ...!!!

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
The rules are very simple.
>1. Click on the Random button on the top left.
>2. Load up the .wad and play it.
>3. Give it an earnest shot, even if it's some old 1995 era amateur shit.
>4. Take a screenshot if there's anything interesting.
>5. Post said optional screenshot, a link to what you got, and tell us what you thought.

Exceptions:
>A. If you get some old utility or something else which isn't a level, reroll.
>B. If it's a deathmatch only level with no single player support, reroll.
>C. If it's made for some fucking old sourceport forgotten by God and you don't know how to make it run, reroll.
>D. If it's more than one level, you don't need to play it all (like if you get a megawad or something), nor if it's like an hour long, the point here is QUICK fun.

You'll probably get something pretty crap, but you never know, I've found some decent old stuff before. If you're not used to ZDoom stuff, consider giving it a chance anyway, you never know, it could be decent, and if not you can gawk and talk shit about it here for fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 13:43:55 2023 No.10543285 >>10543235 >you were groomed by pedophiles on the internet Are you referring to the nazism et. Al.? Because thats unironically the only fitting thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 14:01:10 2023 No.10543308 >>10543224 >>10543285 >Edgelord ends up being a closeted faggot Every fucking time

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 14:23:14 2023 No.10543340 >>10543308 >annoying overly flamboyant retard ends up being annoying overly flamboyant retard i dont know how this is a shock to you

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 14:33:00 2023 No.10543361
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>>10543283
>https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/g-i/hsg_0102

>It's been a few years now since the monsters had invaded earth; and since then you have taken up residence at Earth's only remaining radio telescope facility, where you have found yourself scanning fervently for the sound of any other human voice. You bang your head on a hang- ing desk lamp with a start as the transceiver now crackles to life.. It's a transmission from the MTMM (Manned Teraforming Mars Mission), Which had launched towards Mars about four years ago. (And which was now humanities last desperate hope). We have no experience dealing with these things, they exclaim, It's a *@mn infestation.. With their current distance, and a constant 1G acceleration rate: They barely have just enough time and energy to teleport you, (and your DM squad), to what they call a secure area as they lock down the ship. My God, help us!! you hear them scream as the teleport pad hums to life, It's happening again, just like on Plutonia..

Colorful description, but this is NOT a fun level. Looks visually decent at a glance, but it's a whole bunch of symmetrical and identical hexagons bunched together, and with weird and muddy progression. You get lost immediately because everything looks the fucking same, and the fighting is tedious, the author likes Imps and Chaingunners behind fake walls.

Gonna roll for something else.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 16:19:01 2023 No.10543481
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>>10543283
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/p-r/phobos3

PHOBOS3.wad is from 1998. This one wasn't all that fun either, but I gave it a shot, more than it really deserved and pushed into MAP02, where it takes a turn for the shit, when it was kind of shit to start with.

Fundamentally, you are always really starved and under-equipped on both maps, the first one starts with a bunch of Imps, Zombies and Cacos in a large open space, with more Imps, Troopers, and Shotcunts in an open building across your start which will be sniping at you. You can rush into the distant corner of the building for the Shotgun and get Alex Murphy'd, or you can grab one from the closer Zombies and then run away.
The only winning strategy for MAP01 is to herd all the monsters around, making sure all the ones in the second building come out (see the one screenshot of me hiding behind a couch and desperately pistoling a Caco), trying to make them infight best you can. You get bullets but never a Chaingun, hope you like fighting a Hellknight for the exit with just the Shotgun, there's a hidden Berserk but fuck THAT.

MAP02 has a hot start right away which must suck a million dicks without carrying over stuff, and there's not much more ammo here either. I ran completely out of patience for the hurtfloor Impmaze and cheated by jumping over them, eventually I managed to kill for a Chaingun, but that ammo isn't lasting long.
Getting to the Red Key, this place looks familiar, and it's a deadly as fuck locked in ambush which I just barely survived in spite of cheating (jumping) previously to get the secret Blue Armor, Backpack, and some actual ammo, and then I have to push through the hurtfloor with no health or suit to progress, which is where I give up completely.

Has a couple of decent custom switches and animated textures (computer monitors), but overall looks very rough by 1998 standards.

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Anonymous Mon Dec 25 18:14:04 2023 No.10543641
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>>10543283
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/andyhome
Wow, people weren't lying, MyHouse.wad looks so good!

But seriously, this is a genuine myhouse.wad from like 1997, and as far as that goes, it's nothing special, but certainly nothing awful either. To do the basement and second floors of his house, this Andy guy put teleporters in stairs, and replaced the teleport sound effect with what I can only assume is an audio recording of him hurriedly and loudly stomping down the stairs of his actual house. I presume he wanted it audible for deathmatch purposes.

This becomes funny with how the room on the second floor with the yellow key, which you need to exit the level, is an ambush trap where you will get absolutely fucked if you wake the monster teleport closet by shooting the imp inside. The stair stomping noise almost overpowers everything else as they all teleport in droves to that bedroom, mostly pinkies but also an archie and some barons. If you can find the secret areas which let you get the BFG and a Megasphere, you can actually do this ambush, though it's pretty tough with how close the quarters are (and god help you if you get a ghost monster, like I first did, there's only a dozen rockets in the level).
Ideally, you will want to lure the first imp out of the room and close the door, so you can kill him without alerting the teleport closet and get the stuff in the room first.

I would not call this .wad anything special, but it was however a lot more fun than the other two .wads I rolled, which were unfun chores. Thus, thank you Andy Bay for giving me something that was actually alright and enjoyable, it may not have been as vast and big as the others, nor as nice looking as the first one, but I wasn't bored and miserable, so Merry Christmas wherever you are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 18:20:15 2023 No.10543652 >>10536425 >Crispy People have been using Nugget for a while now unless they've been totally out of loop for few years.

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 18:51:00 2023 No.10543690

>>10540859
Doom and Quake are better on source ports, howerer Steam Quake has that new expansion which is really good. As for Quake 2, the steam release has some brightness issues and slightly nerfed railgun, but also has improved ai (difficulties outside nightmare actually matter now), ground zero balance fixes and restored content such as distruptor, 64 version and also new expansion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 19:04:14 2023 No.10543715 They still take my bait kek https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/half-life-is-shit.143035/ Way more fun than baiting on /v/ amd /vr/, i recommend shitposting there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 19:06:15 2023 No.10543717 Hope you're having a good Christmas Doombros. I hope you got what you wanted this year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 19:43:59 2023 No.10543818 File: 190 KB, 1366x768, amc0003.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 20:17:36 2023 No.10543881 i feel lonely. any anon wants to stream some doom/quake?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 20:25:27 2023 No.10543902 >>10543717 I got Doom Eternal It's still doom so it's the thought that counts

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 20:45:47 2023 No.10543949 >>10543818 >>10543557 i really need to play this

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 20:47:54 2023 No.10543960
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>>10543283
>Getem!
>06/29/95
>by Thomas Evans
>This level has several open areas... I tried seveal different tricks in this one to make it interesting. Hope you like it!

We start with a huge ass open area, as our Thomas described (pic 1). Dozens of shotgunners and zombiemen are no match for us: we have all the weapons we need since the start.
A single room with two set of stairs, one leading to a dead end (pic 2). Luckily, my keen eye was able to spot the fake wall: a secret!
Our Thomas managed to make anon scared when he turned back and the lights were off (pic 3). Nice little room.
An agitated bonesman (pic 4) is seen guarding the exit room.

All in all, a shit wad that kept me company for the past ten minutes or so. We could shittalk all day about our friend Thomas Evans and his shitty wad, but he finished his map. Can the same be said about you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 20:58:54 2023 No.10543979 tried AMC Squad, my crosshair disappeared out of nowhere and options/keys wont bring it back...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 21:01:09 2023 No.10543984 File: 168 KB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10543960 Hey, I finished my map! Wafiu lead was having a bad time and fell off the internet, hoping that fellow is doing ok.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 21:04:45 2023 No.10543990 >>10543979 ok it seemed that 10% scale is buggy

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 21:05:19 2023 No.10543992
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>>10543283
I got a Doom 1 wad from '94 called " TheKurse.wad". Idgames rates it 1 star but considering its release date, I'd say it was better than that. Kind of ugly and with l obscure progression but not worse than some of the Iwad maps. It makes various overt references to the original like a big star shaped arena at the end. Stuff like Plutonia was lauded for ripping off the Iwads so I think this could have been popular back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 21:29:52 2023 No.10544035 >>10543984 What happened to waifu lead?

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 21:46:26 2023 No.10544065
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if the revenant was a reverend would he

1. wear the top part of a robe instead of his breastplate
2. wear the top part of a robe over his breastplate
3. wear a full robe and then put the breastplate on top of it
4. simply add the bottom part of a robe to his outfit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:03:37 2023 No.10544091 >>10544065 Merge Blood Cultist robe with Revenent

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:06:24 2023 No.10544096 >>10544035 Got hit by a car, kept working on the project, then went dead quiet and we haven't heard from him since.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:06:44 2023 No.10544098 >>10543652 Well, how about Woof's latest versions then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:17:40 2023 No.10544119 >Download blood >getting hard filtered from the first level because i suck using the melee weapon and panic when i get hitscanned/dynamited Not like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:24:11 2023 No.10544131 Is it true that Fresh Supply has tons of bugs compared to One Whole Unit? i am currently using the NBlood but i am unsure how far that deviates from the vanilla game

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:39:36 2023 No.10544159 >>10542554 Does the "Land of the Damned" level from Serious Sam TSE count as a Christmas level?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:41:56 2023 No.10544162 >>10544098 Good alternative too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:48:46 2023 No.10544176 What are some good vanilla-ish Hexen rebalance mods? In vanilla, the Fighter is just superior to all the others.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 22:52:02 2023 No.10544183 >>10544159 >winter themed >has santa pop up in two secrets >jingle bells plays in a part of the level I say yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:00:29 2023 No.10544209 >>10544131 https://steamcommunity.com/app/1010750/discussions/0/1644292444647662838/ NBlood has some bug fixes applied, such as stuff like TNT weapon state not glitching while entering water, and smoother transitions between ROR sector transitions

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:16:16 2023 No.10544258 >>10543308 >>10543224 >I'm now unironically a hot femboy who regularly selfposts on /gif/ and /trash/. Damn, the radical rightwinger to femboy pipeline is real

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:21:45 2023 No.10544268 >>10544131 NBlood resembles the original DOS version of Blood the most.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:25:13 2023 No.10544273 >>10544268 more than NotBlood vanilla mode + Dos mouse mode?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:27:44 2023 No.10544278 >>10544183 >Damn, it's cold. My nipples are like pencil erasers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:29:27 2023 No.10544289 >>10544273 NotBlood has DOS mouse mode? Personally I'm more of a download BMOUSE.EXE from the spinning duke .gif website kind of guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:30:05 2023 No.10544290 Are NBlood and NotBlood the same thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:31:03 2023 No.10544292 >>10544273 NotBlood vanilla mode is just exposing an internal flag that is set on for demo playback. >>10544290 It's a fork, and by default it'll use NBlood compatible settings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:35:47 2023 No.10544303 >>10544258 yeee :3 https://unsee cc/album#tBbbE98aGBVB

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:38:13 2023 No.10544310 File: 1 KB, 252x172, 1671601378227480.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not clicking that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 23:41:28 2023 No.10544315 >>10544292 >NotBlood vanilla mode is just exposing an internal flag that is set on for demo playback. my whole life is a liei don't use vanilla mode sorry

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 00:05:52 2023 No.10544396 >>10543059 sniff beautiful

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 00:08:26 2023 No.10544405 File: 211 KB, 382x364, doom___christmas_by_dremoravalkynaz-d5ngim5-80317985.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10543059 Merry Merry, Christmasbros

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 00:30:39 2023 No.10544459 >>10543960 >1995 Thomas Evans might be dead now, or a family man with kids which is the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 01:46:57 2023 No.10544617 I'm too tired and replied to the wrong thread: >>10544615

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 01:48:25 2023 No.10544619 Baking bread

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 01:50:59 2023 No.10544624 >>10544619 Mmmm smells delicious

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 01:57:18 2023 No.10544636 NEW THREAD >>10544630 >>10544630 >>10544630

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 01:58:31 2023 No.10544637 >>10544617 Very nice, more Q2 goodness >all sorts of new Q2 stuff >some fun new Q1 stuff >exposed to lots of good old Q1/2 mods It was a fun year for me

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 26 02:09:50 2023 No.10544663 File: 262 KB, 1280x720, subtle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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