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Is it a masterpiece?

>> No.10510685

>>10510663
>awful level design
>edgy chuni writing
>retarded character design that gives everyone a black upper lip like they just ate someone's ass
>random encounters and easy turn based combat
No

>> No.10510691

>>10510685
>awful level design

From this point on I knew I was baited

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>>10510685
>>retarded character design that gives everyone a black upper lip like they just ate someone's ass
wuv me anon

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>>10510691
Long empty hallways that are symmetric on both sides for the sole reason that the designer has autism are bad, boring, predictable and in Nocturne's case full of backtracking and easy unavoidable encounters

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>> No.10510717

>>10510663
Yes. Ignore the retarded samefag who says otherwise.

>> No.10510725

>>10510716
Oh yeah? Name a game with better map design

>> No.10510783

I liked it enough to get the True Demon Ending. (on normal)
But I prefer the first person ones, and Nocturne's first person mode feels kinda slow/clunky

>> No.10510814

>>10510663
If you fix the horrible rewards system it's a really great game. IV is still the best in the series. It's too bad Persona 3 and up ruined the entirety of Megaten

>> No.10510815

I check out on the main series after II and while later non retro titles bring back some of what is missing in Nocturne (Firearms, armor, ect.) I still think the series peaks with the first game. II is a great game with awful maps and a few bugs that ended my run more than once

>> No.10510837

third person dungeon crawlers are always shit. if you want someone to agree with you go to /v/.

>> No.10510848

>>10510837
The game is good in spite of the awful map design.

>> No.10510863

>>10510725
Every other game

>> No.10510878

>>10510837
what makes third person dungeon crawlers bad compared to first person?

>> No.10510895

I agree the maps/dungeons in this game are really forgettable for the most part, but I think everything else about it is the right type of autistic and SOVL for me, so I like it a lot anyway. Not a 10/10 but great and unique video game

>> No.10510904

>>10510663
It would be if IV didn't exist

>> No.10511365

>try to get into Megami Tensei
>literally 40 games, and half of them have remakes
Is this the most milked franchise on Earth? FF has fewer spinoffs than this. I don't even know where to start. Everyone says start with Persona 3/4/5 but I hate them, it's this freaky occult looking stuff I want to get into not the power of friendship stuff

>> No.10511378

>>10511365
start with SMT IV

>> No.10511402

>>10511378
Nah that's not even /vr/, I'll probably start with MT1-2 on SNES because I like those versions, they look nice. I'm getting to them

>> No.10511406

>>10511402
for me I played the first couple Megami Tensei games, then "if....." then the first 2 personas and I dumped the franchise.

>> No.10511473

>>10510692
Thats just Carla Esteban she just hairy

>> No.10511616

>>10511402
Start with the GBA version of SMT1 with the english translation patch

>> No.10511631

>>10511402
Those or this game are all good starts imo. A lot of the spinoff games branch off fairly hard gameplay-wise from the main series, but any of the numbered ones are good intros to the series.

I personally love the two Digital Devil Saga games as far as the spinoffs go, although they're closer to traditional JRPGs than the numbered games

>> No.10511636

>>10510685
fpbp

>> No.10511852

>>10510663
yes, it mogs so hard every other RPG on the PS2

>> No.10511870

I like Nocturne but I think it's also massively overrated by people that for whom it was both their first SMT game and their first JRPG with a semblance of difficulty to it. SMT2 is a better SMT game (I'd also argue it's the only mainline SMT game with actually good writing), and in terms of SMT meme difficulty where it starts hard but drops off a cliff once you get a decent kit going, it's not retro but 4 perfected that formula imo.

>> No.10512000

One of the rare examples of a game that I ended up selling after buying it because I hated it so much.