PS1 3D Thread

[Anonymous No.10502401]

I'll always have a soft spot for the PS1 3D Aesthetic

[Anonymous No.10502408]

keep us posted

[Anonymous No.10502437]

>>10502401
I agree, it is an incredibly soulful aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.10502503]

>>10502401
except it looked better than that on crt. since you didn't notice you're not posting the real thing i guess you've never actually seen it? just make sure in future to refer to 'emulated ps1 3d aesthetic' when referring to the look you like

[Anonymous No.10502505]

>>10502503
are CRT fags the retro equivalent of online trannies? they always have to tell the world about it

[Anonymous No.10502560]

>>10502503
Did they line up the polygons with the pixels or something.

[Anonymous No.10502569]

>>10502505
It's obvious you're a zoomer. PS1 never looked like this, retarded nigger faggot. It's only because emulation does the PS1 look like that. So when people say "PS1 3d aesthetic" not only is that a red flag for some shit for brains rezoomerism, but it didnt actually look like that. Why is it always some dipshit zoomer who thinks posting bullshit will btfo their superiors? It's fucking annoying that you're even allowed online to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10502572]

>>10502569
Everyone knows games looked different on CRTs. My point is that you're a pedantic faggot who's no fun at parties.

[Anonymous No.10502581]

>>10502572
My point is you're on /vr/ and you're trying to shame me with 2015 tier normalfag buzzwords. Listen here nigger, I partied harder than you ever will and I didn't have to worry about fentanyl in my coke. Which was actual cocaine back then too, not this baby laxative shit you zoomers are ok with over paying for. So take your quips and your limp dick back to the party, xani boi bitch tits.

[Anonymous No.10502584]

>>10502581
Cool. So will you stop derailing the thread now?

[Anonymous No.10502586]

>>10502584
You derailed your own thread by being a cognitive dissonant zoombrain retard, sorry kiddo.

[Anonymous No.10502663]

What is the definition of ps1 aesthetics? Any ps1 game?

[Anonymous No.10502774]

[Anonymous No.10502789]

>>10502503
And yet here you are doing the same thing. Curious, that.

[Anonymous No.10502873]

[Anonymous No.10503016]

>>10502503
Based, fuck emutards

[Anonymous No.10503032]

>>10502503
NTA, but its much easier to post a webm and record an emu than it is a crt to share what you mean
>Use a shader
If he did you'd be saying the same shit.

[Anonymous No.10503085]

>>10502774
what game?

[Anonymous No.10503095]

>>10503085
Halo

nightmare creatures

[Anonymous No.10503158]

>>10502560
it was rendered in lower resolution and the crt gave it a nice analog smoothing
emulated crt cannot give back the feel of it

[Anonymous No.10503183]

>>10503158
>the feel of it
Can you quantify that, or do you process the world entirely through emotional response?

[Anonymous No.10503584]

The best part about these old PS1 graphics is that they are not hyper realistic. Lots of modern games don't leave room for your own imagination and hinder escapism I think.
I also like their pixelated "dirty" textures, which create the illusion of more geometrical detail.

[Anonymous No.10503635]

>>10502401

[Anonymous No.10503645]

>>10502401
>>10502437
>>10502774
>>10502873
>>10503635
mmmmmmmmm....aliasing....

[Anonymous No.10503661]

>>10503584
This is exactly what I love about PSX 3D specifically.

[Anonymous No.10503667]

>>10503645
the vagrant webm is raw and has zero aliasing, monumental retard. kill yourself absolute waste of oxygen

[Anonymous No.10503672]

>>10502663
"Aesthetics" need to be retired already and you cannot accurately compartmentalise 10+ years of a console in an online trend.

[Anonymous No.10503708]

>>10503016
Emutards OWN your board and DAMAGED your mind. (Except saturntards)

[Anonymous No.10503717]

>>10503584
That's what's always appealed to me, they're rough and a bit more exaggerated to get the idea across. At the same time, they're simplified so it leaves the player to fill in the gaps on what the character, enemy, environment, etc really looks like.

[Anonymous No.10503723]

>>10502663
It's guided by the technical limitations of the medium. Something with PS1 "aesthetics" is 32 bit 3D models that renders under the total of 90,000 textured tri's with a texture size limit of 256x256 with 4 or 8 bit color depth (16-256).

Like >>10503672 stated these limitations drastically changed between the start and the end of the consoles lifespan. You could easily get high quality models that look 6th gen on the PS1 with a bit of thought and trickery.

[Anonymous No.10503724]

>>10503708
emutards have a tendency to show everyone their asses with how little they play games/know about them

[Anonymous No.10503740]

>>10503645
No point in playing good looking games in low res.

[Anonymous No.10503752]

>>10502401
Me too. It's beautiful aint it?

[Anonymous No.10503818]

silent bomber looks great.

[Anonymous No.10503837]

>>10502774
Is this game fun or just a misleading gif?

[Anonymous No.10503854]

>>10503837
first game is a classic

[Anonymous No.10503862]

>>10503837
It's fun. Has an arcadey and unique feel for a horror game of the time. Controls kinda stiff but you get used to it. I like how your character is always running full throttle there's no pussyfooting in this game. The music and atmosphere are excellent.

[Anonymous No.10503883]

>>10503854
>>10503862
what about the second?

[Anonymous No.10503887]

>>10503724
But enough about collectiontards. Aka. The faggots who ruined the platformer. [He will headcanon they didn't]

[Anonymous No.10503906]

>>10503883
it's rob zombie core

[Anonymous No.10503995]

>>10502401
>I will always be a nostalgia faggot

[Anonymous No.10504026]

>>10502663
fully rendered 3D forced to cut corners everywhere

also pixeltrash rpgs i guess

[Anonymous No.10504187]

I kinda wish there was more of a homebrew scene for the PS1 with better tools. Because the PS1 is a good 'jack of all trades' system, with some 2D capabilities, early 3D capabilities, interesting 'mod tracker' music audio capabilities, FMV video , etc. Plus, the fact that PS1's are so much more accessible than the Saturn, given that there were like 90 million units sold and PS2 backwards compatibility.

[Anonymous No.10504194]

fuck no. the PS1/N64 started 3D too early and all the games looked like shit, and the PS3/360 started HD too early and all the games ran like shit. they were just beta testing the 6th and 8th gens

[Anonymous No.10504217]

>>10503584
Yes that's the reason why I think the best horror games came from that console. When you can't 100% tell what you're looking at and have to try and figure it out yourself it adds to the fear.

[Anonymous No.10505319]

bump!

[Anonymous No.10505404]

I love the aesthetic in general but something about it's use in horror games feels so right. While it's been neat to see indie devs try to recreate the feeling of them I don't think they quite "get it" really. That balance of having a vague comprehension of the physical shape of what you're looking at but the textures and detail being so primitive that it keeps it relatively vague is a hard balance to reproduce.

[Anonymous No.10505458]

>>10502663
Wobbling 3d models with unfiltered 16 bit color textures+ dithering overlay on top

[Anonymous No.10505464]

>>10503158
Emulation is better

[Anonymous No.10505468]

>>10503724
Cope

[Anonymous No.10505486]

>>10505464
Nah.

[Anonymous No.10505487]

Slap Happy Rhythm Busters

[Anonymous No.10505523]

[Anonymous No.10505528]

>>10502663
Yes. Duh.

[Anonymous No.10505534]

>>10502503
Close enough.

[Anonymous No.10505535]

>>10505464
Emufags really think developers were using 2024-circa technology in the 90s to display and render everything.

[Anonymous No.10505541]

yep, in case you ask, I deleted my previous posts, my bad

[Anonymous No.10505549]

>>10505541

[Anonymous No.10505597]

>>10505549

[Anonymous No.10505607]

>>10502401
>i love bad graphics
Yes, we know zoomer, "vaporwave" "toonami so based fr fr even though i was 1 years old in its prime years and really am more from the miguzi gen at best" etc

[Anonymous No.10505612]

>>10503837
Some attacks have no real discernible hitbox, so they're best avoided. Enemy HP also inflates the further you go into the game, so you better find the hidden permanent weapon upgrades otherwise you'll be stuck slapping monsters repeatedly for upwards to 40-50 seconds per enemy.

[Anonymous No.10505718]

>>10503837
Only the first game is worth playing, and even that is a mixed bag.

The atmosphere is 10/10, but the adrenaline system prohibits you from ever pausing to take it in. You never get to stop to take in the ambience, which is a fucking crime because that's literally the game's strongest aspect.

You will probably get filtered by the first boss.

[Anonymous No.10505727]

>>10505535
>machines capable of rendering PS1 models at 480p are "2024-circa technology"
Not even that guy, but come on now.

[Anonymous No.10505747]

>>10505535
A mid 90's PC monitor was unironically a better display than anything than anything that existed between 2005 - 2015.

That said, I play on a 480i trinitron most of the time, because it's just what serves the aesthetic best imo.

As far as emulation goes, these look pretty nice

>>10503635
>>10503724

and these look terrible

>>10505404
>>10505468

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[Anonymous No.10505767]

>>10505759
>>10505761
>>10505763
These are great. Soul Reaver is a pretty good looking game in some areas.

[Anonymous No.10505768]

[Anonymous No.10505772]

>>10505767
They're from an Alpha build but I love the incomplete lighting in spots, as well as some of the early textures.

[Anonymous No.10505775]

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[Anonymous No.10505835]

>>10503183
there's screenshots available of mgs displayed on either a real crt or with some shader, and it looks like a screenshot of an actual movie frame or even real life. you can trawl the archive its some 4mb files

[Anonymous No.10505837]

>>10503635
imagine how good this must have looked at original resolution where you don't see seams between all the different parts of the scene. such a shame we can only run games in higher reses now! (...you zoomer fucktard)

[Anonymous No.10505891]

>>10502401
Emberassing OP. Get good. Just wait until you figure out that you can run and shoot at the same time.

[Anonymous No.10505927]

>>10503183
what do you want? a mathematical equation?
emulated crt is not the same as real crt
the graphics don't feel shitty playing on a tv
on an emulator all these old games feel cheap

[Anonymous No.10505935]

>>10505927
>the graphics don't feel shitty playing on a tv
They do though, just because they look "better" doesn't mean they still don't look shit.

Early 3D is shit, it's not like early 2D where you can be like ok someone really likes pictures made out of squares as opposed to highly lush later 2D games, early 3D is going for the same things later 3D is, it's just worse at it. The aesthetics haven't changed.

[Anonymous No.10505961]

>>10505935
Disagree, later 3D looks shit.

[Anonymous No.10505969]

>>10505961
That is only because you've retroactively romanticized an aesthetic that makes you feel nostalgic, not because it's actually, quantifiably good at what it was trying to do

[Anonymous No.10506090]

>>10505747
Ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.10506108]

>>10505969
No no no no shut the fuck up I'm 32 years old and I've been playing PS1 and PS2 games since those games came out, I don't sit there taking part in "a e s t h e t i c" threads because of some gay "uwu comfy sovl" inclination, I genuinely prefer older 3D to newer 3D because I think newer 3D looks like fucking shit, PS4 games and beyond look like fucking YouTube ads. I don't give a fuck about what's quantifiably good, I care about what's appealing to me. Faggots like you are the ones obsessed with what's "objectively" good and you will be like this for every thing you take part in and if there is something that is not "objectively" good then you are forced to perform mental gymnastics to come up with why it's good instead of just liking something for what it is. I will look at a 1995 PS1 game and think "yeah this looks good", you won't because you're incapable of free thought.

Captcha: GAY4R

[Anonymous No.10506124]

>>10505969
>retroactively romanticized an aesthetic that makes you feel nostalgic
I'm reading this back and Holy SHIT man you are a fucking punisher

"retroactively romanticized an aesthetic that makes you feel nostalgic" fuck me you little cunt "retroactively romanticising an aesthetic that makes you feel nostalgic" is a thing faggots like you do, I do not have nostalgia for these games because I didn't stop playing them. I have fucking nostalgia for places I was living 5 years ago because that entails far more abstract emotions than a fucking game.

[Anonymous No.10506126]

>>10506108
If you're 32 it means you're like two years younger than me, and for what that is worth I was already young when PS1 was out. Either way, it's just not good. I don't deny it has a certain charm but it's not objectively good. Meanwhile, in the late 90s the absolute peak of 2D animation was going on but you will ignore that, that's my problem. I just feel the recent fetishism of early 3D and the dismissal of 2D feels so forced when one was clearly better than the other at the time

[Anonymous No.10506130]

>>10502401
>I'll always have a soft spot for the PS1 3D Aesthetic
This is one of the most redditfied opinions to have thanks to indie devs

And most screenshots ITT look like shit as well

[Anonymous No.10506132]

>>10505541
>>10505549
>>10505597
I can't see shit.

[Anonymous No.10506176]

>>10504194
n64 looks worse because it has low res textures and z buffer. ps1 looked superior and more detailed

[Anonymous No.10506178]

>>10505835
Actually being old enough to have played the game when it was contemporary (shocking concept on nu-/vr/, I know), I can tell you right now it never looked like a real movie. More so than anything before, sure, but the difference was always clear.
In that same vein, I can tell you that even some of the base shader presets look close enough to the real thing at a normal viewing distance. When you're not leaning in to inspect every individual phosphor (something you'd never do when using a real CRT), the most obvious difference is the lack of glare.

>>10505927
>feel
There it is again. If it's a real phenomenon you're referring to, then you should be able to explain it, but you can't.
All you can do is claim that it gives you an icky feeling in your tum tum and expect people to take you seriously. Use your words, you fucking toddler.

[Anonymous No.10506282]

>>10506126
Sound, I had always been into the 3D anyway.

[Anonymous No.10506335]

>>10506178
what part you don't understand?
it's just as real as your toxicity
oh well, pearls before swine

[Anonymous No.10506350]

>>10506335
You've yet to explain or quantify anything, you just keep saying "it doesn't feel right :(" as if that means something.
What is it, exactly, that makes it not feel right? What is the feeling you're referring to in the first place? Are you capable of elaboration? Because it seems like you can't process anything beyond surface level emotions.

[Anonymous No.10506380]

>>10505541
god, army men 3d was such a beautiful game

[Anonymous No.10506383]

>>10505319
What game?

[Anonymous No.10506623]

>>10502401
Love this aesthetic. Modern 3d just doesn't do it for me. Video games should look like video games. When they try to look too much like real life, they just look shit.

[Anonymous No.10506721]

>>10505837
imagine thinking the original ps1 visuals didn't have seams

[Anonymous No.10506751]

>>10506132
I was going to upload capture card screenshots with filters, tell me how this looks instead. I wasn't happy with how inconsistent the black bars are per game.

[Anonymous No.10506779]

>>10506751
oh wow this one looks better than what my shitty phone camera produced.

[Anonymous No.10507056]

>>10502401
How to into games as an adult?

I wanted to play MGS as it is usually rated as the best game for the PlayStation. But since I have not played any video games for a very long time, I don't have that gamer intuition keep dying lmao.

[Anonymous No.10507101]

>>10507056
Nobody gets the hang of games or any hobby right away. I hop genres and hobbies all the time and have learned to accept that I basically have to start from zero when I get back into something, specially video games. Do not worry about beating the game perfectly because you have to mess up and learn what is ok and not ok. If you fear you don't have enough time, just cheat and experiment with the game that way; because at least you get to experience it first hand versus watching a youtuber do it.

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[Anonymous No.10509107]

>>10507101
>Do not worry about beating the game perfectly because you have to mess up and learn what is ok and not ok.
After dying countless times, I realized I can continue infinite times so its not that bad. Also downloaded VR missions to get the hang of the controls and game mechanics.

[Anonymous No.10509279]

>>10505969
Ramblings of an idiot. How can you quantify an era of aesthetic? And entire thread of people waxing lyrical about what appeals to them versus one fat retard saying “stop liking things I don’t like”. That’s the observable dataset from my position. Why the fuck are you wasting precious internet tubes (you) farming? Go back to /v/ if you can’t provide anything of any worth. Even if you’d prefixed your gibberish with “I think” you wouldn’t have stood out like a moron.

[Anonymous No.10509286]

>>10506126
> objectively good
What the fuck are the win conditions for something that’s “objectively good” in this discussion? Something you, personally, sign off on? Because I strongly suspect you are a cunt and being as far away from sharing your goddawful opinions is an objectively good quality to have.

[Anonymous No.10509292]

>>10505969
You’re the one making the claim; use YOUR words to explain to the class why early 3D is “shit”. Lead by example.

[Anonymous No.10509489]

>>10502401
People I grew up with thought it sucked other than ridge racer, but I liked it

[Anonymous No.10510486]

>>10505837
>noooo you can't change the resolution of a PC release
What the fuck kind of weird purism is that? Default settings all the way for you?

[Anonymous No.10510507]

>>10506126
By late 90s 2D wasn't exciting anymore. Same genres over and over again, same game mechanics over and over again. What do you want to play, 2D beat up number 223, this time the new mechanic is you need to HOLD the button for a super attack but other than that it's the same exact beat em up you've been playing for 10 years? Or a 3D game in a genre you've never even seen before, with mechanics you've never experienced before? Yeah it's easy to see why there's "fetishism" for early 3D. It was fucking exciting, it was a brand new world

[Anonymous No.10510565]

>>10503584
When it was done well, it always had this charming, handmade, fold-out card feeling.

[Anonymous No.10510693]

Replayed Akuji recently. Still breddy gud.

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[Anonymous No.10512017]

>>10502560
>>10503158
Game were designed with the "errors" of CRT reproduction and video cables in mind.

See: Dithering. Play Dino Crisis or RE2. You are *not* supposed to see the dithering dots. The blurring from the CRT technology took care of that, and some games that used interlacing or dunno what was the name to do great visual effects like sonic.

It can be recreated tho'. The other anon is just an anal boomer.

[Anonymous No.10512027]

>>10506126
>just feel the recent fetishism of early 3D and the dismissal of 2D
the people who fetishize early 3D are exactly the same who fetishize pixel 2D. Matter of fact almost all retro 3D games are lowkey pixelshit games.

And they are fucking right. Bilinear filtering and it's consequences have been a disaster for gaming graphics

[Anonymous No.10512047]

>>10512017
>You are *not* supposed to see the dithering dots

*turns dithering off and enables 32 bit color emulation in emulator options*

[Anonymous No.10512130]

>>10512047
>textures looks like a butchered mess
congratulations!

[Anonymous No.10512267]

>>10512017
Nah

[Anonymous No.10512279]

>>10502401
Way to show it to us in HD. It stunk. Even at the time I was wondering what the fuck was up with the textures having played the PC versions of Doom, Quake, and Tomb Raider prior.

[Anonymous No.10512283]

>indie games are now trying to replicate low poly retro games

>in 5 years indie games will replicate brown and bloom "retro" games

[Anonymous No.10512284]

>>10512267
I get what you're trying to show and yes the HD shot generally looks better but bilinear fuzzed native res without a CRT doesn't really give a genuine idea of what it looked like.

[Anonymous No.10512417]

>>10512267
>thread about CRT and 90s games
>posts a PS2 game when the 6th generation already solve all previous limitations
>posts about jaggies that had no display solution at all

Damn you sure proved me wrong by posting something completely unrelated to the discussion.

Btw I was defending emulation there, retard.

>>10512284
Doesn't matter, jaggies are not a problem CRT display tricks could solve and the 6th gen was born during the LCD era that had "perfect" display so they just stopped using any visual techniques.

[Anonymous No.10513830]

>>10512417
>>10512284
Nah

[Anonymous No.10514620]

>>10513830
>megaman legends
>dithering
i'm honestly surprised to managed to get every single nah wrong.

[Anonymous No.10514636]

Anyone have Parasite Eve webms?