HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOM

[Anonymous No.10495894]

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[Anonymous No.10495902]

30 years of overration

[Anonymous No.10495904]

Doom sucks bro

[Anonymous No.10495905]

I'm gay

[Anonymous No.10495909]

love the 3DO renditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqE6j1uei5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKF3QBpVKTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdwmbR_LG0E

[Anonymous No.10495910]

>>10495905
The least gay post in this sticky yet.

[Anonymous No.10495916]

[Anonymous No.10495937]

it is ironic that a game about demons from hell has such soul.

>Should I be hearing embedded music? 'cause I'm not. Is this my punishment for not keeping a ceremonial soundblaster in my basement?

[Anonymous No.10495940]

Doom is eternal.
The game is so good and a universal language that anything you throw at it ended up fitting, even fucking ray tracing.
Let's play current year technology DOOM!

[Anonymous No.10495943]

>sticky
lmao

[Anonymous No.10495945]

>>10495940

[Anonymous No.10495951]

Why does this game get a sticky and not all others that also turn 30?
Bad move, mods. Now people will always demand sticky every time any game turns 30.

[Anonymous No.10495956]

>>10495945
that makes me think of how the metroid prime remasters have less good lighting. The shots in the gc/wii originals have a lighting effect that follows them and lights up terrain in a small area, the remake doesn't. The devs said it's something about how the gc handled lighting making that easy.

>>10495951
anything that is a "doom clone" doesn't get a sticky, for starters. We've had our doom sticky already.

[Anonymous No.10495960]

>>10495943
>sticky a pointless doom thread when there is already a perpetual doom thread on the board
>delete all posts in thread that do anything but gush about the game

[Anonymous No.10495962]

I'm gonna take you for a riiiiide

[Anonymous No.10495971]

Fuck ass Jannies are gonna be in here cleansing the shit out of this thread of honest opinions of Doom so there’s no point of making it a sticky.

[Anonymous No.10495974]

Postan in a sticky

[Anonymous No.10495993]

Fun game. I've used to have infrequent "fuck it all" episodes where I'd just grab some beer, turn up the volume on the speakers and unwind for a few hours.

[Anonymous No.10495995]

>>10495993
sounds like a good idea desu

[Anonymous No.10496015]

[Anonymous No.10496039]

>>10495894
Why is carmack so smug bros

[Anonymous No.10496045]

>>10496039
I would be if I was him

[Anonymous No.10496067]

>>10496039
Lacks the humility that comes with age and experience. At that point he only knew that he is incredibly smart, probably smarter than everyone he has ever met.

[Anonymous No.10496076]

Happy 30th Doom!

[Anonymous No.10496078]

I fucking love DOOM so much it's unreal
>Happy 30th

[Anonymous No.10496082]

Aren't Carmack and Romero posting some sort of discussion/interview?
>Will they be in same room together
>Will Carmack rage quit
>Will Romero shill sigil 2
>Will doom year zero get a mention

I hope for all the above.

[Anonymous No.10496092]

>>10495951
Has anyone made a 'didn't get a sticky' copypasta for /v/ or /vr/ yet?

[Anonymous No.10496095]

>>10496092
I doubt anyone cares enough to do the research

[Anonymous No.10496097]

>>10495894
Post some DOOM behind the scenes please

[Anonymous No.10496106]

gz doom. One of the best games ever.
Btw Sigil 2 got also released today

[Anonymous No.10496108]

Happy birthday D00M

[Anonymous No.10496110]

30 years young
just warming up!

[Anonymous No.10496117]

>>10495951
Because doom isn't shit unlike most other games

[Anonymous No.10496121]

>>10495951
Not all games are equally as important. Doom is one of the most important games of all time.

[Anonymous No.10496128]

this remember me that I have to finish doom 2, doom 3 and doom eternal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2YG8DX0ees

[Anonymous No.10496132]

Sigil 2 looks cool. What's the DOOM community consensus on Romero? Knee deep is best episode ever made imo, so wtf happened?
>Happy 30

[Anonymous No.10496137]

>>10496097

[Anonymous No.10496145]

Happy Birthday! Without Doom we never would have gotten Halo, the most influential fps game of all time. Plus awesome stuff like duke nukem 3d. Doom fucking rules

[Anonymous No.10496148]

[Anonymous No.10496150]

Happy birthday! Keep on doomin'

[Anonymous No.10496154]

>>10495951
>Why does this game get a sticky and not all others that also turn 30?
Because this is the only retro game that's so good it's able to generate enough discussion for a general that's active 365 days a year

[Anonymous No.10496158]

>>10496097

[Anonymous No.10496165]

I remember when Doom was new. My dad was wowed by computers at the time but Doom made him motion sick, so he would sit back with his friend and they'd get drunk watching back set playing while I played.
God I played so much of shareware doom.

[Anonymous No.10496169]

nobody forgets the first time that listen this cry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZDewbjVDHg

also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Sgq8xcbHbI

[Anonymous No.10496170]

>>10495951
Doom is significantly more important than Isle Of The Dead or Blake Stone.

>>10496158
>>10496097
Same toy, but a later production with a different color scheme. The one iD Software used was desert tan colored, probably owing to Operation Desert Storm.
Here's a "Roargun," which was a toy raygun which iD used for making the BFG9000, as well as numerous of the game's textures.

[Anonymous No.10496195]

>>10495894
Happy Birthday!

[Anonymous No.10496197]

>>10496117
>running around in completely identical mazes without any interaction isn't shit
Lol. Lmao, even. The sticky should have gone to Duke Nukem 3D or even Half-Life instead because THOSE games aren't shit unlike Doom and its sea of 500000 identical levels.

[Anonymous No.10496201]

>>10496169
Good intentions but that pic is pretty outdated today. Until someone updates it, it's a better idea to link to the rentry:
https://rentry.org/vrbin

[Anonymous No.10496217]

>>10496197
>without any interaction
Is your inferiority complex so crippling that you need to hurl up desperate and obvious lies to lash out at good games?

[Anonymous No.10496220]

FUCK YEAH

DOOM @ 30, the ride isn't even close to over!
30 MORE YEARS!

[Anonymous No.10496228]

>>10495945
I just.. don't care. It doesn't add anything to the experience for me.
I don't understand raytracing cultists. It's literally like the SPINNERS of rendering engines. Remember spinners? Slapping some shiny piece of crap on top of a game without changing anything else about its presentation is never anything worth writing home about.

[Anonymous No.10496232]

>"We're not wearing any pants"
>Is actually wearing pants
Fucking liars...

[Anonymous No.10496235]

>>10496228
Spinners at least had soul, ray tracing doesn’t

[Anonymous No.10496237]

>>10495894
My first Doom was the Jaguar port and to this day I prefer playing with the music turned off. Anyone else?

[Anonymous No.10496239]

>>10496150
Why is there a switch there

[Anonymous No.10496245]

>>10496239
What are you talking about, what swi-

[Anonymous No.10496247]

Remember to rage softly and carry a big bun, fellow marines.

[Anonymous No.10496249]

>>10496237
Sounds like something similar to a Stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.10496260]

I'M TAKING THIS THREAD OVER
HANDS UP

[Anonymous No.10496265]

[Anonymous No.10496270]

[Anonymous No.10496275]

[Anonymous No.10496282]

Happy bday Doom!

[Anonymous No.10496284]

[Anonymous No.10496285]

>>10496260
>>10496265
>>10496270
>>10496275
Crudux Cruo!

[Anonymous No.10496289]

I've spent 25 years of my life on this stupid game, yet because I was not there at the start, I am and always will be a noob.

[Anonymous No.10496291]

gravis ultrasound 4.11 patches are the canon doom music

[Anonymous No.10496301]

>>10496217
Anon, shooting cardboard retards with the same guns and pressing space on differently-painted walls doesn't count as an interaction. Play literally any shooter post-Half-Life if you want to see a good example of what does count as a believable, fleshed out interaction. But of course you can keep wanking to voodoo doll shit that doesn't make the game any better.

[Anonymous No.10496303]

>>10496289
>tfw you distinctly remember being a dumbass 4 year old "playing" Doom on your father's PC
>despite barely even getting what it was, you were technically there right at the start
Feels good man (not trying to get you down or anything btw)

[Anonymous No.10496315]

>>10496301
It's embarrassing watching you seethe this hard. All your favorite games are Doom's children (or else bitches), try not to have a panic attack because the greatest game ever made gets a sticky and your favorite shitty spinoff doesn't.

[Anonymous No.10496321]

>>10496303
That's okay, I'm happy for you. It's not like I haven't done anything I can feel proud of in the time, and anyway I don't think I'd've stuck around if I hadn't got into it late after the initial peak.

[Anonymous No.10496324]

>>10496291
Wasn't the music composed with a Roland SC-55?

[Anonymous No.10496325]

>>10496260
>>10496265
>>10496270
>>10496275
>>10496284

[Anonymous No.10496326]

>>10496324
no, bobby "gravis ultrasound 4.11" prince used a gravis ultrasound with the default 4.11 patches

[Anonymous No.10496327]

>>10496301
>Play literally any shooter post-Half-Life if you want to see a good example of what does count as a believable
>believable
Stopped reading there. Thanks for letting everyone here know you're a "muh realism" faggot

[Anonymous No.10496328]

>>10496291
Is it supposed to sound like it's underwater? I'll stick with the Roland SC-55

[Anonymous No.10496331]

>>10496328
>gzdoom
there's your problem

[Anonymous No.10496336]

>>10496326
https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Digital_music_packs
>Doom's music is MIDI-based. This means that the music can sound vastly different depending on the hardware used to play it. Most PCs in the '90s played back Doom's music using low quality FM synthesis but superior options were available. One example is the Roland Sound Canvas SC-55, a piece of professional MIDI synthesis hardware that was originally used by Bobby Prince to compose Doom's music. For this reason, the SC-55 is sometimes considered the "canonical" playback format for Doom's music.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/131340-does-anyone-know-what-tools-bobby-prince-used-to-make-music-for-doom/
>Also, keep in mind that he used a Roland SC-55mkII (along with a Ensoniq EPS) when composing the ost, so he made it with that module hardware in mind

https://equipboard.com/pros/bobby-prince
>"Own a part of video game history! This Roland (aka Edirol) SC-88 Pro was used to rough out much of the music I wrote for early computer games, including Doom, Duke Nukem, Rise of the Triad and many more.
>The SC-88 Pro has all of the iconic sounds of the SC-55, and many more! It is compatible with all MIDI files composed on the SC-55 -- it has an SC-55 Map button. It was designed to be a complete orchestra/band in one unit, with numerous digital effects.
>For full information, download the manual: bobbyprince dot com slash manuals slash Roland_SC-88Pro_Manual.pdf (edit, copy and paste since Reverb doesn't appear to allow links in descriptions)."

>>10496331
>there's your problem
Um, no? The source port is not responsible for how the soundfont sounds. I don't think you have even the slightest clue what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.10496341]

It's so beautiful, I could cry. Who wants ultra-realistic graphics, anyway? I want away from the real world.

[Anonymous No.10496343]

>>10496315
Doom is Wolfenstein's child. Wolfenstein is Hovertank 3D's child. Who fucking cares about them? Doom introduced the shitty breadcrumb of the FPS formula and games like Build ones iterated on it, making it better and better until culminating in the perfect shooter that is Half-Life. Doom's """gameplay process""" didn't age well and is good only for historical and archaeological purposes. Anyone who still unironically plays it and even makes new levels for it made them might be irreversibly mentally ill. Given that Doom's current community consists predominantly of trannies and amerilards, it's very likely true. Anyone who could make Doom's gameplay better (mentally healthy people) already moved on to create original games instead of sucking and jerking an outdated game over and over.

[Anonymous No.10496346]

[Anonymous No.10496351]

The chainsaw pillar of E1M2, the definitive example of the donut effect linedef action, according to the Unofficial Doom Specs. I read this before I had the game (I got Doom II first, then Ultimate Doom a year later) and was consumed with curiosity about it for months before I actually got to see it.

[Anonymous No.10496353]

>>10496343
>Doom is Wolfenstein's child. Wolfenstein is Hovertank 3D's child. Who fucking cares about them?
No one, because Doom is the one that achieved legendary fame and longevity. Who cares about Isaac Newton's father? Who cares about Hermann Einstein, or Alois Hitler?
Pretty weak reaching, anon. Also lol at "b-but i'm using le unconcerned smug reaction pic" when your only purpose in this thread is shitting your pants in rage that Doom (the greatest game ever made) has a sticky and your crappy forgotten spinoff will never have one. I hope your next red-eyed crying shitpost includes another desperate, pathological pic!

[Anonymous No.10496359]

>>10496336
those forum posts are all troll posts, bobby definitely used GUS. he has confirmed it multiple times. also you are using some bootleg sf2 instead of the actual PAT files like a retard, download this https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/music/dgguspat and get it set up correctly in prboom+ (with sdl as the sound device) or crispy

[Anonymous No.10496362]

>>10496359
>those forum posts are all troll posts
false
>bobby definitely used GUS.
false
>he has confirmed it multiple times
false

[Anonymous No.10496363]

Hey janny why don't you make the images even bigger you massive fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.10496367]

>>10496343
>absolutely inane and vacuous post
>frog
Yeah that fits

[Anonymous No.10496374]

>>10496362
calm down and use google

[Anonymous No.10496378]

>>10496359
when asked directly, he kinda evaded the answer, saying that he tried his best to make it sound good on any hardware.
but if you listen to the official CD rendition from 1997, it is definitely an SC-55 with some extra reverb.

[Anonymous No.10496381]

>>10496363
It's only at the top of the thread, it's not that big of a deal

[Anonymous No.10496384]

>>10496363
phoneposters were a mistake

[Anonymous No.10496385]

>>10496374
Google confirmed he used a Roland. You're mentally retarded, like in a very special way.

[Anonymous No.10496387]

>>10496363
>>10496381
I keep forgetting they're like that permanently, and clicking on them to reset them to thumbnails.

[Anonymous No.10496395]

>>10496197
>Lol. Lmao, even
The zoomer reveals himself and let's everyone know that his opinions can be ignored

[Anonymous No.10496401]

>>10496378
i listened to that cd and it had that unmistakable GUS sound. i even compared the waveforms in audacity and they were like the exact same lol
>>10496385
now you're just making stuff up and trolling. and i'm not retarded.

[Anonymous No.10496405]

>>10496353
Half-Life achieved just as much, if not more fame than Doom, and unlike Doom this fame is well-deserved. Doom, just like Isaac Newton, belongs to the history books, so that people knew it as the archaic game that paved the way for much superior successors. Its gameplay design and setting screams early nineties jank, while Half-Life is timeless and believable in both 1998 and 2023. If you show Half-Life to anyone I can guarantee you that this person will be engrossed by the level of atmosphere that not even modern videogames manage to reach, and if they drop the game then that says more about their IQ and attention span than about Half-Life. Doom, on the other hand, was and is an endeavor exclusively for autistic fedora neckbeards.
Here is a non-smug reaction pic for you, this time it depicts (You) and not me.

[Anonymous No.10496406]

>>10496197
>make a Duke Nukem sticky for Doom's 30th birthday
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10496414]

>>10495909
They certainly are.. different.

[Anonymous No.10496420]

>>10496401
>mentally retarded and deaf
Please tell your mom I'm so sorry, I knew we shouldn't have been drinking that heavily when I knocked her up.

[Anonymous No.10496424]

>>10496405
Look at the tranny /v/ jannies who deleted my post because shilling Doom and pushing it everywhere makes them feel heckin valid. C'est fini. You won. Your shitty game is defended by striped sock-wearing transvestites on every corner of the Internet while Half-Life just keeps existing without hurting anyone. What is it about Doom that attracts control freaks, genderbenders and other genuinely retarded personalities?

[Anonymous No.10496427]

All praise Ye Glorious STARTAN3.

[Anonymous No.10496429]

>>10496427
That subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god, it even has a waterstain.

[Anonymous No.10496430]

>>10496424
I find it hard to believe the Half Life fanbase is not similarly overrun with them.

[Anonymous No.10496435]

Tom Hall doing the basedjak face 30 years before it was cool.

[Anonymous No.10496442]

Oh no, it's the Scolari brothers! No, wait. The Bruiser brothers!

[Anonymous No.10496449]

>>10496117
But there's still many other games that aren't shit that didn't get a sticky.
>>10496121
Agreed, but so are other games, that isn't the point.
>>10496154
>>10496170
idc, I like doom, it's fine, what I'm saying is that now retards will demand stickies all the time because "doom had it!", and it won't matter if you tards come saying "bb-b-b-but it's the ONLY good gaem!12", it will be annoying anyway.

[Anonymous No.10496451]

>>10496270
10/10 cultist performance.

[Anonymous No.10496452]

>>10496442
I thought it was the Great Giana Sisters

[Anonymous No.10496454]

>>10496237
Quite a playable port, but you're missing out. A bit like the 32X port, which also plays and controls well, but has mangled music.

[Anonymous No.10496508]

>>10496289
I was born like a week from Wolfenstein 3D, so I was in diapers at the time of Doom, but even though I thought Quake 2, Terminator : Future Shock, and Goldeneye were all cool games as a little lad, Doom, which was older and sort of less advanced, was something else.

I catch a glimpse of it first when I'm maybe 7, and woah, there's a game I had never seen before. Doom 2? My brother ushers me out of the room and tells my mom I can't play it or watch, it's too violent, way more violent than Quake 2. The images burn into my mind instantly though, it's got cool guns with powerful muzzleflashes, but it also has a lot of occult and satanic imagery, the enemies aren't robots, cyborgs, aliens, or terrorists, they're evil demons from hell (and sometimes also cyborgs), and dead soldiers possessed by evil spirits.
I was mad into Diablo, which I was also way too young to play, so naturally a combination of sci-fi shooter action with satanic demon enemies captivated me instantly, and the detailed gore was fascinating, if also disgusting.

Funnily enough, the graphics was one of the things impressing me the most. I thought it was weird that you couldn't look up or down, but the guns and monsters looked super-realistic to me, with their photorealistic lighting and shading, and I had never seen that before, so to me, Doom 2 had better graphics than Goldeneye and Quake 2.
I was really too little to get any kind of good grasp on the gameplay or appreciating that aspect, but the visuals and music had me coming back repeatedly. It was a spooky and intimidating game, even with cheats, even playing with Simpsons Doom, which is what I managed to haggle as a deal with my brother.
The Simpsons was really funny to me, even if I barely understood that either at that age, so I got a lot of enjoyment out of that setup, but because regular Doom 2 was so cool to me, I would frequently go behind my brother's back and play it normal.

[Anonymous No.10496525]

I will celebrate by playing this for the first time.

[Anonymous No.10496528]

The retard calling doom soundtrack a gravis product needs to be shot on sight

[Anonymous No.10496531]

>>10496525
It's actually good

[Anonymous No.10496542]

>>10496508
I would eventually come back to games like Doom as a teenager, after my brother convinced/strongarmed me into trying to play through Half-Life without cheats for once, which was an eye opener. That was SO much more fucking fun than playing with cheats, what else have I missed out on? Duke Nukem 3D turned out to be really great too, and eventually I come back to Doom once again, but playing through it legit this time, and it wasn't just cool to look at and listen to, it was cool to play as well.

[Anonymous No.10496543]

>>10496508
>My brother ushers me out of the room and tells my mom I can't play it or watch, it's too violent, way more violent than Quake 2
Your brother is a cunt

[Anonymous No.10496573]

>>10496528
bobby prince carried a GUS in his breast pocket back when he was torching villages in 'nam. it stopped a speeding bullet that would have went through his heart, and it still worked afterward (he used this specific one to compose the doom soundtrack). romero thought it was badass.

[Anonymous No.10496574]

>>10496543
At the time, I often thought so, sometimes for reasons exactly like that, but growing up more and being less of an obnoxious little crybaby shit, I came to become increasingly good friends with him. He'd show me all kinds of cool movies and games which I really was still kind of too young for, but which I was far more emotionally and intellectually equipped to both handle and appreciate.
I kinda thought horror movies would not be for me, after all, why would I want to be scared? But he showed me Halloween, and it was maybe slightly scary, but more importantly it was exciting and thrilling, a little bit like Terminator but without the gunfighting and explosions.

I didn't get all my tastes from my brother, but he opened my eyes to a hell of a lot, and really the guy's a fucking rock, he's been there for me and helped me with so much, I really don't think I could ever repay all his kindness, but I'll try to whenever I can.

[Anonymous No.10496575]

Postan in a sticky
Happy birthday to Doom, best game ever. Also, come over to retro fps general, we got WADS

[Anonymous No.10496581]

>>10496525
I don't think the gameplay is as well developed as the classics, but honestly it's not a bad shooter overall. I have my issues with it, and they wary, but it's pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.10496583]

>>10495894
You can only post on this board if you are older than DOOM by at least 10 years

[Anonymous No.10496586]

This thread is property of the FIREBLU Church

[Anonymous No.10496593]

>>10496583
Tough, old man, I'm on your lawn and you can never do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.10496595]

>>10496082
I heard they were supposed to.

[Anonymous No.10496597]

dead game
dead sticky

[Anonymous No.10496601]

>>10496583
There's no-one that old on the Internet.

[Anonymous No.10496604]

>>10496601
Your mom is on Facebook selling her ass

[Anonymous No.10496614]

>>10496604
My mom doesn't know how to use a computer.

[Anonymous No.10496616]

>tfw Carmack was implementing binary space partitioning at the same time I was learning to wipe my ass

[Anonymous No.10496617]

[Anonymous No.10496618]

>>10496614
The nurses at the old folks home put her in the computer class after weekly bingo

[Anonymous No.10496634]

>>10496132
His levels are liked, but it varies, there's no one big consensus beyond that. Some think his levels are the best ones, some even arguing that his levels are the only good ones, and a rare few will even extend that to arguing that if a Doom level wasn't made by him, it's impossible for it to be good. There's all kinds of people.

Personally, I think that E1 is slightly overrated, because Romero does WAY better levels in E4 and Doom 2 by an enormous margin.
Sigil is a lot like if Romero made E4 all by himself, with the mean difficulty to match, and while a few people were overwhelmed with seething that he didn't just make another Knee Deep In The Dead, I thought it was a great little set of levels which makes the most out of the first game's comparably smaller and simpler bestiary. Nothing revolutionary in terms of design, but extremely competent.

I expect the same from Sigil 2.

[Anonymous No.10496647]

>>10496583
98% of this board is younger than 35 so you'd end up with a dead board

[Anonymous No.10496656]

>play sigil 2 for a while
>notice there's no doom 2 enemies and stuff
>look it up
>it's for ultimate doom

why did I assume the second sigil will be for doom2?

[Anonymous No.10496657]

>>10496656
It was originally announced as such.

[Anonymous No.10496685]

>>10496583
Why?

[Anonymous No.10496697]

This is the slowest sticky ever.

[Anonymous No.10496696]

where IS all the data?

[Anonymous No.10496704]

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1733932867338592309

live in 10

[Anonymous No.10496706]

>>10496696
Okay so there is a 12 byte header at the start of the file which identifies its type then tells you the number of entries and location of a directory. You seek to that location then read the given number of 16-byte entries. Each entry specifies the start, length, and name of the item of data. So for each item you want, you can seek to its start, and read that many bytes.

[Anonymous No.10496712]

nice, is this /vr/'s first sticky?

[Anonymous No.10496713]

>>10495937
>playing it on a Soundblaster
>not a SC55 or Gravis Ultrasound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdi1i63mcXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNINhsMR6-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh9wzkPXf2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfGprL1iHno

[Anonymous No.10496714]

>>10496647
Good. Get fucked

[Anonymous No.10496718]

>>10496656
Because Romero said so at first. He changed his mind at some point, and decided that Sigil 2 was also gonna be Doom 1, and I was also surprised to hear that, but apparently he's also cooking a Doom 2 megawad in the background, so one of those is eventually coming I guess.

[Anonymous No.10496721]

ALL YOU NIGGAS HAVE SEEN THE STICKY OF DOOM

[Anonymous No.10496727]

>>10496714
I hope I won't end up this bitter and miserable when I'm in my 40s

[Anonymous No.10496729]

1993 was a good year. We had the 30th anniversary of Myst a couple months ago, and now here's Doom.

[Anonymous No.10496730]

>>10496714
If these imaginary janny powers make you happy, by all meams keep pretending.
I'm still gonna post on /vr/ though.

>>10496697
The artist for Shining Force died some time back and that sticky was a ghost town. I think that's just /vr/.

[Anonymous No.10496753]

Any cool new releases celebrating the anniversary?

[Anonymous No.10496763]

>>10496647
The median age here is older than /v/ (which I assume must be like, 14), but yeah, /vr/ has loads and loads of millennials and early zoomers. I was here when the board opened a decade ago, loved it, and decided I was very comfortable here, and I mostly remain comfortable, I have no intention of leaving.

[Anonymous No.10496764]

>>10496729
Tbh the late 80s to the early 2000s as a whole was like the great renaissance of videogames, going from a lot of limits to what affordable consumer hardware could do, to those rapidly vanishing, letting you do all kinds of wild shit even on cheap consoles. Whole genres were, if not born outright, brought hurriedly out of their primordial ooze.

[Anonymous No.10496765]

This is what iPhones look like in the future.

[Anonymous No.10496776]

>>10496753
No, just sigil and eviternity sequels.

[Anonymous No.10496802]

>>10496753
There's a few. Besides Sigil 2, there's a Russian community map pack celebrating the occasion, outright named like "30 Years Of Doom."

It's interesting seeing community projects from places more removed from the English speaking web, their design sensibilities are often subtly different from the rest. Ruskies and Japs each just do Doom in their own ways.

[Anonymous No.10496814]

>>10496765
ZOMG
GIB

[Anonymous No.10496821]

so who is uploading the sigil2 wad?

[Anonymous No.10496837]

LIVE both Johns on twitch.tv/theromero !!!

[Anonymous No.10496849]

>>10496837
Wtf I thought they would be in the same room they had to settle with facetime?

[Anonymous No.10496853]

>>10496849
well romero does live in Ireland now

[Anonymous No.10496857]

>>10496821
here you go: https://romero.com/s/SIGIL_II_V1_0.zip

[Anonymous No.10496858]

>>10496039
>>10496045
>>10496067
>ywn be as smart as carmack

[Anonymous No.10496859]

>>10496837
Always nice to see RagingCuckWillSmith give a follow

[Anonymous No.10496864]

>>10496858
Duh.
He's fucking John Carmack no one will ever be as smart as him

[Anonymous No.10496868]

>>10496857
oh, I thought this was a paid thing

[Anonymous No.10496876]

those are some big images

[Anonymous No.10496886]

>>10495894
quake is still better :3

[Anonymous No.10496891]

>>10496858
He's still an inspiration in most ways (stealing computers as a teenager not being one of them, obviously) so that's okay.

[Anonymous No.10496896]

>>10496857
Does anyone have One Humanity?

[Anonymous No.10496912]

>>10496837
nice

[Anonymous No.10496916]

>>10495894
Posting in a sticky :D

[Anonymous No.10496925]

>>10496886
Get better bait

[Anonymous No.10496928]

>>10496853
I wonder why, is it better than America?

[Anonymous No.10496931]

>30 YEARS
Holy shit we're getting old.
Also Eviternity 2 seems like its very ambitious but I'm not sure about these maps. They're a little too easy to get lost in at first, and while the gimmick of wandering through the defeated Eviternity 1 maps at the start was cool it felt a bit aimless.

[Anonymous No.10496940]

>springlook was a thing because people got stuck looking up or down
kek

[Anonymous No.10496947]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOM

[Anonymous No.10496956]

>>10496928
Everywhere is better than America. If I had the money I would leave too

[Anonymous No.10496964]

>>10496956
This

[Anonymous No.10496970]

>>10496931
>Holy shit we're getting old.
This negative emotional reaction is the only thing these useless threads evoke. It's bordering on Satanic. But that's what most jannies are, so

[Anonymous No.10496972]

>>10496956
I doubt that. England is pretty shit. I wonder if Ireland is any better.

[Anonymous No.10496990]

>Stream ended
Can't wait to watch it again in 30 years!

[Anonymous No.10496991]

>>10496925
it's not bait if it's my actual opinion
also was that the first public appearance romero and carmack have made together in years? i'm legitimately unsure

[Anonymous No.10497004]

>>10496990
Can someone summarize it for me?
>>10496991
I think so yes

[Anonymous No.10497009]

>>10496970
>This negative emotional reaction
You should see the thread I tried to make on /g/ about this. Satanic shit to the max.

[Anonymous No.10497013]

Happy Birthday Doom!

30 years later and I'm still gaming.

[Anonymous No.10497016]

>>10497013
We're all gonna escape these flesh prisons and live forever

[Anonymous No.10497028]

>>10496896
https://files.catbox.moe/ga1f11.wad

[Anonymous No.10497034]

>>10497028
File not found.

[Anonymous No.10497038]

>>10496868
you can pay for the box or something, or maybe it's to get the music, idk

[Anonymous No.10497040]

>>10497034
Romero lurking in the thread confirmed

[Anonymous No.10497060]

>>10497028
Thanks brother but the link doesnt work.
Unless you were memeing on me if so fuck you.

[Anonymous No.10497062]

>>10497040
Cut your hair John you look like a 60 year old lesbian.

[Anonymous No.10497067]

>>10496868
I think it's like the first Sigil, where the levels themselves are free, but if you paid a little bit of money you'd get a version with special MP3 music (and then you could splurge for a bunch of collectible physical nicknacks too if you wanted). First Sigil had music by Buckethead, which I thought was pretty cool, not sure who's doing the music for this one.

[Anonymous No.10497070]

Can we get at least a classic DM running today at 10 PM EST on zand?

[Anonymous No.10497082]

>>10497062
Maybe that's his plan on scoring pussy on the side well into retirement. No one can tell what's down there eventually anyway. Or care, for that matter.

[Anonymous No.10497109]

>>10497016
Right on. Live forever in the prison of E1M1.

[Anonymous No.10497119]

Happy birthday Doom. I picked up a copy of Doom for the PS1 just a couple weeks ago, I think it's time to blast through that again.

[Anonymous No.10497120]

I.. I couldn't even finish the first level of sigil 2 in 5 tries

[Anonymous No.10497121]

>>10497060
wasn't memeing, maybe it gets auto-nuked by hash in case of copyright complaints
lets try again https://www.mediafire.com/file/jfv4p44w8hqlchc

[Anonymous No.10497126]

>>10497121
In that case you can always use an MD5 changer.

[Anonymous No.10497130]

>>10497120
If you're playing on UV, try it on HMP, Sigil 1 was fairly tough on UV, I assume Sigil 2 also is.

[Anonymous No.10497135]

>>10497062

[Anonymous No.10497139]

I will be honest with you guys. I don't like Doom that much.

[Anonymous No.10497142]

Do you guys still hold any nostalgia for Doom? I think I lost all of mine about 15 years ago when I picked it up again and started playing it religiously, but sometimes I still remember what it was like playing this on my shitty family PC as a kid, admiring the beautiful mountains in the distance throughout E1. What a beautiful game.

[Anonymous No.10497146]

>>10497121
>auto-nuked by hash
Archive, if need be password-protect to prevent the site from extracting and checking.

[Anonymous No.10497149]

Thank you Doom for giving us the best Sonic game

[Anonymous No.10497156]

>>10496336
>Um, no? The source port is not responsible for how the soundfont sounds.
No, but the reverb and chorus settings are.

[Anonymous No.10497158]

>>10497130
it is. low pickups and high enemy count. it's just that if I play on easy modo then I'll get used to it

[Anonymous No.10497162]

>>10497142
>Do you guys still hold any nostalgia for Doom?
Yes. For Doom and that time period. Doom helps me escape clown world sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10497186]

>>10495951
the number of stickies /vr/ has had is so damn small
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/vr.desu.meta/type/sticky/

[Anonymous No.10497189]

Facts: This game doesn't hold up at all and Carmack is quintessential Reddit

[Anonymous No.10497194]

>>10497189
>Opinions:

[Anonymous No.10497203]

>>10497189
In today's world, Carmack would've never made Doom because Reddit would've canceled id for Wolfenstein's heckin nazi imagery, regardless of it being a game where you kill nazis.

[Anonymous No.10497212]

>>10497189
Eh, I'll be generous and give you a (you) even if it is poor bait.

[Anonymous No.10497221]

>>10497135
lol

[Anonymous No.10497227]

>>10497121
Thank you brother sorry for doubting.

[Anonymous No.10497246]

>>10497142
Not really. It would be like having nostagia because I've returned to a house I used to live in 20 years ago. But I've just popped down to the shops. I actually never left, I've lived in that house continuously for 20 years.

[Anonymous No.10497265]

it's a shame what Carl "Sandy" Petersen did to DOOM II

[Anonymous No.10497269]

>>10497265
I wish Sandy would return to mapping.

[Anonymous No.10497270]

>>10497265
I place the blame more on Romero for deathmatching instead of mapping.
Sandy was just overworking himself picking up the slack.

[Anonymous No.10497275]

>>10497270
you know what? that's a fair assessment that i never really considered. some of the sandman's levels were pretty sick in doom 1, you're probably right that he just overworked himself after romero made him his bitch. RIP

[Anonymous No.10497294]

Happy anniversary!

[Anonymous No.10497298]

I want a new Doom release. Not Sigil, but a get the old boys back together for one last rodeo.

[Anonymous No.10497303]

>>10497186
Good. It's literally just mods shouting "LOOK WHAT I LIKE!"

[Anonymous No.10497310]

how2opendoorafterclosing?

[Anonymous No.10497314]

>>10497298
No that would be shit but I would like them to recreate the picture in the OP.

[Anonymous No.10497328]

>>10497269
>I wish Sandy would return to mapping
He's too old and dementia has started to affect him

[Anonymous No.10497329]

>>10497294
What map is this?

[Anonymous No.10497335]

>>10497328

[Anonymous No.10497341]

>>10497335

[Anonymous No.10497347]

>>10497328
>>10497335
What the hell, this is like some absurd comedy routine.

[Anonymous No.10497352]

Im losing my shit at the demented guy

[Anonymous No.10497359]

What is Romero's fucking problem

[Anonymous No.10497368]

>>10497359
Misinformation is a deadly plague, it will kill us all unless it is stamped out on sight.

[Anonymous No.10497372]

>>10496015
Wait a second, that's not Tomb Raider, that's E1M6.

[Anonymous No.10497381]

>>10497359
making people his bitch

[Anonymous No.10497390]

>>10497341
This one's the funniest to me. Why does he even mention E1M4? Did Carl bring it up in a related post or something?

[Anonymous No.10497405]

>>10497368
this, but I believe it's truly an unwinnable battle, certain people will always believe something and more people are likely to believe things from regular dumb joes who hearsay

[Anonymous No.10497424]

>>10497390

[Anonymous No.10497447]

>>10495945
Shit, you made me remember I had that version installed. I'm gonna have to give at least E1 a playthrough tonight.

[Anonymous No.10497479]

>>10495945
>>10497447
how long until someone builds a real-life E1M1?

[Anonymous No.10497497]

>>10497479
With real life demons from other dimensions?

[Anonymous No.10497508]

Should I beat the game before trying any of the wads?

[Anonymous No.10497517]

>>10497497
did you really buy the "clay models" excuse?
obviously the sprites were based on the real demons

[Anonymous No.10497520]

Happy Birthday Doom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zkIogWuqtQ&pp=ygUNZzQgaWNvbnMgZG9vbQ%3D%3D

[Anonymous No.10497521]

>>10497508
>beat the game
Ideally, yeah. You should absolutely, 100%, play at least one episode vanilla before even dreaming of installing any gameplay mods. For maps, it's not as important but still, play vanilla at least once, that way you can appreciate mods properly and will understand the changes made by them.

[Anonymous No.10497527]

>>10497497
just building it out of plywood would be work enough. worry about experimenting with teleporter tech later

[Anonymous No.10497535]

>>10497479
We must build a labyrinth to house the E1M1

[Anonymous No.10497539]

I was going to make the 1000 reply shitpost but then I saw...damn /vr/.

[Anonymous No.10497546]

>>10497539
Doom has a dedicated general that's very active, most of the posts are there.

[Anonymous No.10497561]

>>10497508
You can certainly jump straight into PWADs but do remember they are usually much harder than the original game, especially the fancy-looking newer ones.
IMO play E1 E2 E3 then as much of Doom II as you can stomach to learn the game (some people get super bored of Doom II, it can be an acquired taste). Skip Ultimate Doom E4 until you are more practiced.

[Anonymous No.10497607]

Frens, I'm in need of the holiday cheer. Are there any essential Christmas .Wads I should look into?

[Anonymous No.10497610]

>>10497607
Whitemare.

[Anonymous No.10497632]

>>10495894
>30 years
RIP AND FUCKING TEAR

[Anonymous No.10497634]

I still have one of Eric harrises "lost" wads on my hard drive from 1999. realdoom.wad. It's a pretty crudely done remake of the cafeteria and the parking lot. None of the classrooms are done, but the building is pretty much there. Shotgun handgun and chaingun with tons of imps. Really not worth playing but I know I will find a doomer who will pay what I'm asking eventually.

[Anonymous No.10497652]

>>10497607
Last year I enjoyed xmaschill.wad a great deal
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/themes/xmas/xmaschill

[Anonymous No.10497661]

>>10497634
If that's the one with the plasma gun secret in the kitchen, I've already played it.

[Anonymous No.10497662]

>>10495894
30 years ago life was worth living
>tfw posting in a /vr/ sticky

[Anonymous No.10497671]

>>10497347
He has a beef with tom hall for a 100 year old man he still has a brain

[Anonymous No.10497672]

>>10495951
ok boomer

[Anonymous No.10497674]

>>10497632
August 18th, that well known date in the Doom calendar

[Anonymous No.10497675]

>>10497671
Sandy has a beef with Tom Hall?

[Anonymous No.10497693]

>>10495894
plz make the photos larger and more annoying

[Anonymous No.10497705]

>>10497693
Kys phonefag

[Anonymous No.10497709]

>>10497705
shit thread.

[Anonymous No.10497716]

>>10495894
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cl-xcjlfswo

[Anonymous No.10497723]

i had an idea of running doom sourceports on all the handhelds i have, should i do it ?

[Anonymous No.10497726]

>>10497716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9WLzRv-Ygg

[Anonymous No.10497732]

>>10495940
>>10495945
I hate it.

[Anonymous No.10497775]

Happy 30th, boys.

[Anonymous No.10497778]

>>10495951
Doom sucks
that's all

[Anonymous No.10497779]

HOW MANY DEMONS HAVE DIED IN THE PAST 10957 DAYS!?

[Anonymous No.10497781]

Can someone please convince the Ironwail guy to do his magic on a Doom source port?. It's insane how I get 500+ fps on Arcane Dimensions on my ancient PC but Doom coughs like a bitch when you play a map with a couple more textures thrown in.

[Anonymous No.10497786]

>>10497779
Not enough.

[Anonymous No.10497787]

>>10497781
Have you heard of Helion?
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132153-helion-c-0924-12923-goodbye-bsp-tree-rendering/

[Anonymous No.10497795]

>>10497787
No, but I'll give it a try. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.10497805]

>>10496228
Spinners were peak living you hatin ass cracka. You will never experience the bliss of pulling up on a shawty with your Davin Sprees spinnin on a bitch

[Anonymous No.10497810]

Happy birthday DOOM :)

[Anonymous No.10497862]

>>10495916
Romero designed half the levels and built the WAD manager, asshole.

[Anonymous No.10497872]

>>10497862
Romero made 7 levels.

[Anonymous No.10497880]

>>10497872
still built the WAD manager, asshole.

[Anonymous No.10497905]

>>10497787
>>10497795
Well, there you go, no dips. I will be using this from now on. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10497934]

Happy Birthday Doom. I grew up playing it in the 90s and now I'm teaching my son how to play. We have co-op night twice a week, and he's getting good for a 7 year old. Maybe soon he'll be ready to take on his old man in deathmatch.

[Anonymous No.10497957]

>>10495894
Wait how work 4 image and one video in 4chan?
I see maximum 5 image look like 8chán?

[Anonymous No.10497984]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOM!

I have very fond memories fucking around in Doom servers as a teenager, installing WADs and meeting total strangers in lobbies and fucking around for hours in whatever random game mode they were playing. Zandronum was small enough you'd often see the same folks many times in a row.

[Anonymous No.10498094]

holy shit, type find.4chan.org into the address bar to shit bricks

[Anonymous No.10498150]

>>10497862
Romero supports trans rights so naturally 4channers have to start coming up with reasons to hate him and pretend he wasn't important to Doom lol

[Anonymous No.10498173]

>>10495951
Doom IS /vr/, it's not just any game. It's basically the pure essence of what this board is about.

[Anonymous No.10498201]

>>10497862
>>10498150
>

[Anonymous No.10498204]

>>10498201
ok

[Anonymous No.10498240]

gimme good wads with new enemies

[Anonymous No.10498241]

Romero is a pedo, Tom Halls levels are better

[Anonymous No.10498250]

>>10498240
And original music made for the wad

[Anonymous No.10498258]

>>10498250
R there any threads or forums to contribute to a project or start a project cause good wads and new enemies and music sounds cool

[Anonymous No.10498295]

>>10498258
Some anon on the general was looking for a partner yesterday, and a musician was looking to lend his music to wads today (or maybe that was yesterday too, or the day before that...).
Anyway, go check the general.

[Anonymous No.10498321]

>>10498094
Doesn’t work for me

[Anonymous No.10498327]

Romero got shafted hard by Carmack. Good to see that they're on speaking-terms after all that

[Anonymous No.10498328]

>>10495894
Finished the chapter 1 just like the shareware experience.

[Anonymous No.10498336]

>>10498327
They have been for a while, they just don't have a reason to interact much because Romero is still riding the Doom wave 3 decades later and Carmack doesn't feel nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.10498363]

woa /vr/ sticky?
happy birthday doom

[Anonymous No.10498368]

>>10498336
It really feels like Carmack has many more achievements under his belt and all Romero has to look back on is his maps that he made decades ago. Romero peaked early.

[Anonymous No.10498376]

>>10498368
Carmack ascended beyond just making video games. Romero hasn't worked on a notable game since Quake.

[Anonymous No.10498396]

>>10498368
I dont think carmack ever re-peaked..
His work history just more gracefully transitions his lazy executive era that you would expect while romero's resume makes him look like a wandering hobo

[Anonymous No.10498406]

>>10498368
Well one is a technical savant while the other is just a game designer.

[Anonymous No.10498416]

not having sentimentality about things is kind of redpilled, isn't it? it's better to be constantly trying to one-up yourself in terms of getting enjoyment out of life and not reflecting on shit that happened ages ago.

[Anonymous No.10498419]

>>10498396
Didn't he still write many optimizations for the Oculus himself while at Meta?

[Anonymous No.10498428]

IBLEWMY.WAD

[Anonymous No.10498472]

I love Doom. Thanks for the sticky mods. God bless us all

[Anonymous No.10498476]

What’s your favorite Doom wad? I’ve only played a few so far but my favorite was Pirate Doom.

[Anonymous No.10498493]

>>10497872
Which, inevitably, are the best ones.

Man it's funny, I had to look up the level author lists again, it's been a while, wanted to know who to give credit to and who to throw shade at. American McGee did Quake DM4 which is my favorite deathmatch map ever, and I was gonna say maybe it was on accident cause it's a "blue" map and all those blue maps in ep4 were a total slog, but no actually American's levels were alright, if a bit concept-heavy. All that ep4 shit was... Sandy. lol.

Props to Willits though, Romero did (still Quake) E1M1 which is great as always but I also really love E1M2-5, love the natural feel of them and they're great to deathmatch on as well. Servers that would just run the 1-5 rotation instead of the actual DM maps were tons of fun, they were especially great once grappling hook play took off.

Interestingly, Willits also did E4M1 though, which I always thought felt notably different from the other E*M1s (he really likes water, huh?). I will say something nice about Sandy though, the lighting in E4M2 Tower of Despair is top notch, that room you drop into with the shammie and all the crisscrossing beams is the iconic symbol of Quake's lighting style in my mind. All things being considered it really is an interesting quirk of these games that we know who the authors of the individual maps were and care about it so much and can recognize their styles and trends. That kind of shit sure doesn't exist anymore in modern gaming.

[Anonymous No.10498495]

>>10495894
Happy birthday to DOOM, I loved all the games, even 3 and 64. Shamefully, I haven't played any wads aside from Sigil, gonna try one from the /vr/ list later today.

[Anonymous No.10498508]

Sigil 2 is fun, got to M6 before I stopped for the night, died a lot. And I mean a lot.

>>10497130
>Sigil 1 was fairly tough on UV
Sigil 1 intentionally trolled every motherfucker who just instinctively goes to UV by making it feel like an entirely different game from HMP and starves you of resources to the point of sadism. It's honestly a stroke of genius.

[Anonymous No.10498515]

I have the steam version of ultimate doom set to run the original DOS version but its stretching the picture to fit my 1080p monitor with black bars how can I fix to 4:3?

[Anonymous No.10498518]

>>10498515
run it in windowed?

[Anonymous No.10498527]

>>10498518
How the FUCK do you do that?

sorry I'm eating a giant bag of shit right now as I'm typing this hehehehehe

[Anonymous No.10498553]

>>10496078
different engine

[Anonymous No.10498560]

>>10498476
For maps, No Rest for the Living very quickly took over as my easy favorite. For modded gameplay, High Noon Drifter, Aliens TC, and Brutal Doom Power Fantasy

[Anonymous No.10498563]

My first experience with doom was the 32x port. It's a damn good port. It's the only game my dad would spend hours playing. He is not a gamer. Thank you doom.

[Anonymous No.10498584]

>>10497186
Konami Code
Creator of Speccy
Dragon Quest composer
Namco artist
Designer of the NES & SNES
Atari
Shining Force artist
Doom

So we've had 8 stickies in 10 years.
Only connection to me seems to be significance.

[Anonymous No.10498679]

>>10498584
At least this time it wasn't over someone dying

[Anonymous No.10498708]

>>10498584
>10 years
You scared me saying this.
3 years.

[Anonymous No.10498714]

>>10498708
?
Is this a rule change joke?

[Anonymous No.10498717]

>>10498679
It seems like Atari's 50th birthday and Doom's 30th birthday are the only /vr/ stickies not related to someone dying.

Pretty lame.

[Anonymous No.10498735]

Going to play some OG on the MiSTer 486 core.

[Anonymous No.10498737]

>>10498717
Wow, try crying about it some more like a little bitch. Maybe that will start working.

[Anonymous No.10498745]

>>10498737
You've got emotional problems.

[Anonymous No.10498748]

>>10498745
...says a literal baby crying salty tears because the most important game of all time got a sticky but "Crash Bandicoot 7: Crash in Alabama" didn't.

[Anonymous No.10498749]

>>10498748
I have no other posts in this thread.

You seem pretty upset at some other people though. Hope you figure it out soon.

[Anonymous No.10498752]

>>10498749
>I have no other posts in this thread.
That's not what the IP counter says, newshit. You eralize we can tell when a new person comes into the thread? Dumbass.

Keep
crying
salty
tears.
Keep being beside yourself with rage and frustration that the most important game of all time got a sticky. I love it. I love watching you fume and vent in impotent fury.

[Anonymous No.10498757]

>>10498752
ok.

[Anonymous No.10498785]

>>10498749
not likely. the people that post in these shit doom threads are toxic pathetic losers.

[Anonymous No.10498835]

>>10498150
Or crediting Robin Williams with creating DOOM is just a joke and you're a little bitch

[Anonymous No.10498847]

>>10495940
>>10495945
Why is the floor shiny like it's polished metal? It doesn't look right.

[Anonymous No.10498850]

>>10498847
Because raytracing is such a weak gimmick they have to overemphasize it as much as they can to even tell it's doing anything.

[Anonymous No.10498858]

>>10498850
How else are the trays going to race themselves, anon?

[Anonymous No.10498897]

>>10497067
It was done by Thor. Anybody got a link to the Thor version btw? Can only find the James Paddock Midi version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_X9t8_7I8&list=PLH9H-ykLK42lQUDTjeCvyWtK_6gAYh0Nu

[Anonymous No.10498923]

Doom sucks so much. And no I'm not a boomer I'm in my mid to late 30s. Play better games.

[Anonymous No.10498935]

>>10498923
There is no better game.

[Anonymous No.10498937]

>vib-ribbon birthday on december 9
>doom birthday on december 10
>klonoa birthday on december 11
Absolute soul streak

[Anonymous No.10498938]

HELL YEAH

[Anonymous No.10498948]

>>10498935
No no, he's right, it does suck, and there are better games.

>>10498923
Good on ya.

[Anonymous No.10499007]

>>10498948
nope, not true.
no better games exist.

[Anonymous No.10499028]

>>10498923
Poor taste is eternal.

[Anonymous No.10499059]

>>10497328
Brutal

[Anonymous No.10499061]

What do you think they would say about the 30th anniversary?
What do you think their opinions on the directions the series has taken would be if they were alive today?

[Anonymous No.10499070]

>>10495951
Because Doom is one of the most important video games ever made, if not THE most. It is up there with Tetris and Pac-Man.

[Anonymous No.10499073]

>>10499070
fucking lol

[Anonymous No.10499074]

>>10499070
lmao

[Anonymous No.10499078]

>>10499073
>>10499074
Does this board have so many zoomers on it that they don't know or care to research Doom's effect on the industry?

[Anonymous No.10499084]

>>10499078
it's likely a Console vs PC player thing.
Someone that plays mostly old console games has a hard time appreciating a PC icon like DOOM.

[Anonymous No.10499085]

>>10499078
>or care
That one.

[Anonymous No.10499091]

>>10499078
They're baiting you dude, that's literally all this site is anymore is people trying to get a reaction by saying anything no matter the thread, post, or subject matter is. You really think a doom fan would click on this thread to say that? Only a troll would.

[Anonymous No.10499110]

>>10497156
Any way I can adjust the reverb setting for MIDI in GzDoom? I want just a little bit, but there's only off or lots.

[Anonymous No.10499117]

>>10495894
Although I've only beaten Doom 64, Doom 3, and Doom 2016...I have nothing but the utmost respect and appreciation for these dudes and all they've inspired. 30 years later and never lost a step, legendary series.

[Anonymous No.10499132]

>>10497265
Make some of the best levels?

>>10497675
No.

[Anonymous No.10499136]

>>10499117
If you liked Doom 64, you'd like the originals.

[Anonymous No.10499140]

>>10496525
You'll have a great time.

[Anonymous No.10499145]

>>10499136
I've played them years ago, enjoyed them, just never attempted to beat them. I always get around to beating a Doom title when the feeling calls.

[Anonymous No.10499151]

I went to karaoke this weekend and I swear half the songs sounded like they would fit in a Doom WAD.

[Anonymous No.10499163]

[Anonymous No.10499172]

[Anonymous No.10499179]

>>10499091
It's a sticky. People who don't care are going to click too.

[Anonymous No.10499183]

>>10499078
>>10499084
>>10499085
>>10499091
Doom is boring. Why act like it's some unassailable god incapable of being unliked or criticized? The endless praise and worship and pedestal-mounting is obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.10499207]

>>10499183
If you think Doom is "boring" its probably not your thing and never will be. Why come into a thread celebrating its 30th birthday, knowing that there's a large subculture that cares a lot about it, and get all shitty? You could just like, not - and be totally fine. You should consider not doing what you're doing, because its lame, and gay.

[Anonymous No.10499208]

>>10499207
>Why come into a thread celebrating its 30th birthday, knowing that there's a large subculture that cares a lot about it, and get all shitty?
Easy (you)s

[Anonymous No.10499219]

>>10499208
Cool non-response. Begone. Take a break from the Internet.

[Anonymous No.10499223]

>>10499078
i was laughing that you included tetris, doom is fine

[Anonymous No.10499224]

>>10499219
I'm just stating what these Anons are doing. If you'd like a more in-depth response, alright:
These Anons are coming into a 30th Birthday Doom thread and saying contrarian things for the express purpose of annoying others in the hopes they will click on their post and reply to them, either with confusion, or more vitriol.
Now the real question is are you intending on replying to my post and further push the derailment or will you understand and move on?

[Anonymous No.10499225]

>>10498923
Somebody got killed on E1M5 or something and swore the game off forever.

[Anonymous No.10499230]

>>10499224
not everyone in life has a malicious agenda.

[Anonymous No.10499234]

>>10499230
Shut up, nigger.

[Anonymous No.10499235]

>>10499224
I apologize. I thought you were one of the trolls and acted accordingly, but rereading your (a little vague, if you'll take some criticism) post I see that I am actually just retarded.

[Anonymous No.10499236]

>>10499110
Yes, type this command into the console (bring up the console by pressing tab), then change the number. So for example type fluid_reverb_level 0.20

In addition, here's an edited soundfont I made that adds reverb to the drums ad makes them sound way better instead of that flat midi sound. There's a video there so you can see what it sounds like.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141521-modified-emperorgrieferus-sc-55-soundfont-better-drums/?tab=comments#comment-2733718

[Anonymous No.10499238]

>>10498396
Carmack did some pretty cool things in rocketry.

[Anonymous No.10499239]

>>10499230
My only takeaway from this little exchange is zoomers sure are dramatic

[Anonymous No.10499240]

>Kick his sergeants ass for trying to kill innocence
>Faces off the forces of hell by himself
>Bunny lover
>Killed the literal personification of sin itself
>Brough the fight to hell itself so the demons don't fuck with earth anymore
Happy Birthday to the most badass FPS protagonist ever.

[Anonymous No.10499246]

>>10499208
>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:
> a. Troll posts

[Anonymous No.10499247]

>>10499078
look up ultima underworld if you want to know real importance zoomie.

[Anonymous No.10499248]

>>10495894
Perfect timing, Zandrodoom anyone?

shawnbrentwood

[Anonymous No.10499250]

>>10499208
>>10499246
Nevermind, don't make such ambiguous posts about this then. Like, "they're farming replies" would've been better.

[Anonymous No.10499252]

>>10499163

[Anonymous No.10499260]

>>10499248
That is my discord tag. I have wanted to start a server for /vr/ to play Doom so if you want to...

I always have wanted to, but with the 30th birthday let's try.

[Anonymous No.10499264]

>>10499247
IIRC Doom was intended to be a faster/simpler interpretation of what Ultima Underworld was trying to do tech wise, by way of John Carmack. Both are good and had a major impact on the industry.

[Anonymous No.10499271]

>>10499183
>is obnoxious
First of all, that's a purple name discord phrase, so you've just outed yourself as a zoom zoom. Second of all, this is coming from a place of excess and being spoiled after boomer shooters paved the way. Of course you're gonna think it's boring if you don't know what came before it.

[Anonymous No.10499278]

>>10498897

YouTube search sucks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_IQVKtLHU&list=OLAK5uy_nQHGoUSMrb33BQS7X-V1V6EQLIReEzt0o

[Anonymous No.10499292]

>>10499247
Doom had far greater importance to the industry because it was a much faster paced game with a much wider appeal.
I'm not gonna say Ultima Underworld is insignificant, it's a cool game, but it doesn't have the same impact.

[Anonymous No.10499295]

>>10499271
>First of all, that's a purple name discord phrase
The fuck does this even mean

[Anonymous No.10499314]

>doom general posters who only go here to circlejerk doom realize there's an entire board outside of them
kem

[Anonymous No.10499319]

>>10499314
They're probably more than a third of the board's regulars, but there's plenty of Doom/Quake lovers who don't frequent there either. Being bitter and snide is unbecoming.

[Anonymous No.10499326]

>>10496039

[Anonymous No.10499329]

>>10496525
Doom 3 has the most fun chainsaw in the series. I love using it as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.10499347]

>>10499314

[Anonymous No.10499349]

>>10499347
Rude.

[Anonymous No.10499548]

>>10495894
Happy birthday.
I never played a single DOOM game
ever

[Anonymous No.10499562]

>>10499548
Why not play it?
DOOM1 runs on anything and is far from brutal (at least before ep4).

[Anonymous No.10499584]

>>10499548
Here

[Anonymous No.10499701]

>>10495945
I'l wait for frames reconstructed by ai

[Anonymous No.10499787]

>>10499562
Yea, maybe some day. I'm getting back into FPS games and I'll probably add it to the list.

>>10499584
Thanks, saved. I'll check it out.

[Anonymous No.10499905]

>playing old-style doom for the first time in forever, only every played 2 and 64
>ask for suggestions
>dude, go play plutonia right now
>here's a basic shotgun, now have an archvile
i'm only at the first level and i got my shit pushed in a few times already, oh boy.

also, i never realized how fucking fast that thing revives monsters, holy hell.
the chaingunner in front of the fucker must have revived like 6 times

[Anonymous No.10499926]

>>10499548
It's really easy to drop into and it's very fun. Playable with with mouse+keyboard, gamepad, or even gamepad+mouse if you want to.

>>10499787
Lemme help you.
https://files.catbox.moe/e6eiz8.zip

I put together a quick Doom starter pack.
>Woof sourceport, v.12.0.0 (plays classic, can also play Boom and MBF21 format levels, which is what a lot of people make these days)
>comes with Doom.wad, Doom2.wad, TNT.wad, and Plutonia.wad (the last two are like standalone expansions to two)
>comes with the spritefix patches and blood color patches
>has stuff like 'screen recoil' enabled by default, which isn't in the original game, but I copied off of my config and I like it, turn it off if you don't
>also an .sf2 file which imitates the Roland Sound Canvas 55, the machine which Doom's music was composed around
>binds already set up for WASD+Mouse and all, but setting up a gamepad is easy if you want that
>Doom plays pretty well with dual analog sticks, you can even use the left side of a gamepad and a mouse if you really want

Also added in DoomLauncher, which is a program that helps a lot with handling files. You tell DoomLauncher where you unzipped Woof, and then you add whatever .wad files or .deh files you want available.
So starting DoomLauncher and selecting say, Plutonia.wad, you then select Woof 12.0.0 as your port, and then you could add other files into the current load order, perhaps that one .wad which adds new music for Plutonia's levels, and then you press play. The launcher will remember your choices for Plutonia.wad too.

[Anonymous No.10499934]

>>10499905
Oh yeah, Plutonia on UV is not where I would go as a novice, it's really good, but it's also designed for people who beat Doom 2 on UV and thought it wasn't challenging enough.
One of the devs described Plutonia as its first map starting with a level of difficulty comparable to Doom 2's late game, and then escalating to harder and harder as it goes.

It does have difficulty levels implemented though, so you could try a lower difficulty.

[Anonymous No.10499946]

>>10499207
>large subculture
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.10499948]

>>10499905
Play the original 3 episodes, and then E4 if you want more of a challenge.

[Anonymous No.10499953]

>>10499946
Reasonably large for a very old game like this. Probably 10-20k people who are either regular players, regularly interact with some part of the community somewhere to some level, or otherwise make stuff for the game, and then a lot of people who do this stuff sporadically.

[Anonymous No.10500057]

>>10499934
>Plutonia on UV
i wish. i'm getting rolled on the default difficulty.
more of a map-knowledge problem really. once i get the enemy layout and healthpacks locations down i'm sure i'll come around to it

also, is there something particular to look out for, as far as secrets go?
not sure if it's doom or a source port thing, but i already found a few of those classic "wall of a slightly different colour than the rest" only to be greeted with a doomguy dry hump.

in 64 i think i read only afterwards that some teleports worked differently depending on which side you entered them, which if you asked me it's a load of bullshit

[Anonymous No.10500064]

>>10500057
UV IS default difficulty.

[Anonymous No.10500086]

>>10500064
i see. i though it went HMP -> UV -> nightmare

[Anonymous No.10500106]

>>10500086
Around 2/3 of custom wads are made for UV difficulty with no other difficulties implemented. Around 0% of custom wads are made for some other difficulty with UV not implemented.
HMP is indeed a "Normal", but no one uses it since original Doom on Normal is too easy.

[Anonymous No.10500195]

>>10498515
use chocolate doom instead. dosbox is trash
>https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Downloads

[Anonymous No.10500275]

>>10498515
>>10500195
Woof is better: >>10499926

[Anonymous No.10500321]

>>10500275
he wants something that looks and feel like dos you genius

[Anonymous No.10500336]

>>10496228
You get mad this easy? Your mom better watch out! Traced lighting is great, get angry and stay that way about it while we enjoy better things without you.

[Anonymous No.10500339]

>>10496301
Oooof. You are angry about being filtered by Doom on Hurt Me Plenty. Pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.10500410]

>>10500321
It does.

[Anonymous No.10500440]

>>10500410
he doesn't need woof for the present case so stop shilling your outdated port

[Anonymous No.10500539]

>>10500440
Outdated?

[Anonymous No.10500557]

>>10499584
>v6
v8 is the latest I have saved.

[Anonymous No.10500627]

>>10500539
Picrel is better

[Anonymous No.10500629]

>>10500627
Woof is more bleeding edge in the features it adds. Of course, those also get ported to Nugget but it's never right away.

[Anonymous No.10500637]

>>10500440
>woof
>outdated
It was literally updated 2 hours ago to support Eviternity II

[Anonymous No.10500652]

>>10500637
The nugget update will be better

[Anonymous No.10500671]

>>10497372
And it's not Tomb Raider Anniversary either, it's every Doom Eternal """"map""""

[Anonymous No.10500679]

>>10498515
>I need it to be in 4:3 black and green monochrome and keyboard only (pressing alt to strafe) for the legitimate 1993 experience
meanwhile, Carmack's own monitor in 1993

[Anonymous No.10500684]

>>10500671
Eternal has a few good ones tho. Super Gore Nest is kino

[Anonymous No.10500953]

>>10499271
>of course you're going to think it's boring
So you admit it doesn't stand in its own merits without context. Ergo, it fails.

[Anonymous No.10501082]

Would someone be kind enough to post the Thorr soundtrack version? Romero's POS store only shows me a "buy" button for the first Sigil.

[Anonymous No.10501094]

>>10501082
Nevermind. Fix'd it.

[Anonymous No.10501149]

>>10498476
TTC I think it's called, aka the "trooper" was was really cool. Level design was compact. Not one of those "where the hell do I go" style wads (not that those are lesser designs)

[Anonymous No.10502217]

>>10496583
>39

I remember begging my dad as a little kid to buy me the shareware version of this game from the 1/2 store when i was a little kid. It only had Knee Deep in the Dead.

He eventually found some site to pirate it off the internet and it took like 36hrs to download. Then I spent all my Christmas money on Doom 2 the following year.

[Anonymous No.10502221]

>haven't played doom in a decade
>i still remember that i need to punch out pinkies and that i can use thin walls and chest high walls to negate or reduce archvile's attacks
what video was it again?

[Anonymous No.10502224]

>>10502221
https://youtu.be/HJcf0aOwmiA
now go pass off some martians

[Anonymous No.10502234]

>>10502224
god damn it, i searched for "doom monster strategies"
cheers

[Anonymous No.10502407]

>>10501082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW_IQVKtLHU&list=OLAK5uy_nQHGoUSMrb33BQS7X-V1V6EQLIReEzt0o [Embed]

[Anonymous No.10502483]

>>10498847
Yeah, it could be cool if all the original textures were kept.

[Anonymous No.10502592]

>>10498858
like they do in real life and not in a total sperg vision of lighting

[Anonymous No.10503229]

>>10500557
this is outdated by 10 years

[Anonymous No.10503232]

>>10500679
that's 1995

[Anonymous No.10503239]

>>10503229
anon we're boomers, decades are like years for us

[Anonymous No.10503267]

>>10503229
>Then please show us a more modern one.

[Anonymous No.10503334]

>>10503267
>1. grab DOOM.WAD and DOOM2.WAD from wherever, also PLUTONIA and TNT if you're daring
>2a. grab Woof/DSDA if you just want to play Doom and wads
>2b. grab GZDoom if you want gameplay mods
>3. grab any launcher you like, ZDL just werks
>4. check 30 years of Cacowards to find whatever wads you want to play
>5. when not sure check doomwiki, and there's always a thread on /vr/
Here.
The whole fucking guide.
Outside of 2a as timeless as Doom itself, was actual 10 years ago, will be actual 10 years from now on.
Outdated guide my ass.
Fucking retards can wipe their asses without a manual with pretty pictures.

[Anonymous No.10503346]

>>10503334
I was mocking
>>10503229

[Anonymous No.10503405]

>>10503334
>Fucking retards can wipe their asses without a manual with pretty pictures.
I don't need one, that's why I know that guide sucks

[Anonymous No.10503434]

>>10495894
>DOOM
more like DUMB

[Anonymous No.10503568]

Carmack looked, and still looks like a complete uber-geek. Funny how he turned out to be one of the most ruthless ones in the companies that he was involved in. It's always the quiet ones huh

[Anonymous No.10503573]

>>10500637
>>10500652
Funny cause Eviternity II RC2 was fixed and it's not compatible with Woof! 12.0 and Nugget.

[Anonymous No.10503578]

>>10503573
not > NOW. Fucking typo, poke my eyes.

[Anonymous No.10503664]

>>10503573
>>10503578
Nugget always winnet

[Anonymous No.10503697]

>>10503434
doomsisters not like this

[Anonymous No.10504195]

>Romero did literally nothing to celebrate the anniversary

What happened to him? Dude is just a whiny low energy literal cuckold now, it's sad.

[Anonymous No.10504240]

>>10504195
he released SI6IL II

[Anonymous No.10504246]

>>10504195
He did a whole livestream and made a new megawad. Basic research would have left you informed. I'm sorry you're dumb.

[Anonymous No.10504571]

>>10503334
Good guide.

>>10503568
He sounds like one too, but he's also in pretty good shape, he decided as a teen, while getting into programming, that he would also get fit and practice martial arts, which he used to beat up bullies apparently.
Before that, he also used to experiment with and play around with explosives, which he found on usenet with the help of school computers, and he also spent a sentence in juvie for trying to help himself to one of those school computers.

Extremely fascinating person, I'm glad he found productive endeavors instead of becoming some sort of supervillain.

[Anonymous No.10504572]

>>10504195
What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.10504586]

>>10504571
>for trying to help himself to one of those school computers.
>trying
He doesn't do "trying", he succeeded (and sold the other one he stole, in case I remember correctly), but he got caught.

[Anonymous No.10504638]

>>10504586
Nah, he got caught in the school heist because one of his compadres couldn't fit through the hole Carmack had melted with the glass and instead opened the window, tripping the silent alarm.

What he did do though was to later buy a stolen Apple II computer from one of the kids at juvie lmao.

[Anonymous No.10504695]

Why does the Doom sub-reddit have a political sexual minority flag?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/

Anyway, I memember celebrating "5 years of doom" in 1998. We drank pepsi.

[Anonymous No.10504709]

>>10504695
Well it's reddit. What did you expect?

[Anonymous No.10504738]

based mods

[Anonymous No.10504857]

>>10496067
That whole computer heist story should have been a mission in Bully. Complete with Algie getting stuck in the window.

[Anonymous No.10505005]

>>10504571
>>10504586
It makes me happy that fuckers like this are the guys who made Doom

[Anonymous No.10505052]

>>10504638
So I guess I remembered it wrong. Or perhaps the source I read was unreliable and I didn't care to check. Sad.

>>10505005
The part that should make you happy is that he learned from that, that it was a wrong thing to do. Despite his apparently tremendous autism. I guess in his case autism really is a superpower, with its very own set of drawbacks.
Anyway, he became a better person and engineered a lot of cool stuff instead of becoming RL equivalent of Moriarty.

[Anonymous No.10505102]

>>10505052
>he learned from that, that it was a wrong thing to do
When he was psychologically evaluated they called him a "brain on legs" and found he had no empathy or remorse and he admitted he would have kept committing crime until he was caught.
It's just lucky he fixated on tech instead of something anti-social.

[Anonymous No.10505104]

Do you think John Romero still fucks that 18 year old from Romania?

[Anonymous No.10505110]

>>10505102
My belief is that he has analysed everything that happened and came to a conclusion that criminal activities are counter-productive and will not truly benefit him over the longer term.

[Anonymous No.10505353]

>>10497787
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132153-helion-c-0924-12923-goodbye-bsp-tree-rendering/
>>10497905
It keeps crashing immediately for me. I tried both the with and without runtime versions (had to install a runtime for the without)

[Anonymous No.10505363]

As long as this is the doom thread, I need someone to post the image of that picturesque mountain, but if you squint you'll see a chaingunner firing from it. I thought I had it to post, but I don't.

[Anonymous No.10505482]

>>10505363

[Anonymous No.10505516]

[Anonymous No.10505521]

>>10505482
Post more

[Anonymous No.10505562]

>>10505521

[Anonymous No.10505567]

>>10505521
>>>/wsg/5375070

[Anonymous No.10505621]

>>10504571
>I'm glad he found productive endeavors instead of becoming some sort of supervillain
unlike Zuckerberg

[Anonymous No.10505654]

>>10505102
Which fits a delinquent teen autist with a big intellect, big ego, and a big chip on his shoulder.
It's interesting looking at accounts of him and how he seems to gradually socially adapt over the years.

>>10505110
Which is sensible, as a criminal career is mostly for stupid people, and even smart crooks tend to live on borrowed time.

>>10505621
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.10505675]

>>10495894
make a DOOM RPG that isn't RL or that phone-game.
also anime when?

[Anonymous No.10505679]

>>10503568
you mean successful? otherwise i only heard he was uber autistical about code.

[Anonymous No.10505921]

>>10504571
>he also used to experiment with and play around with explosives
this explains Armadillo Aerospace

[Anonymous No.10506075]

>>10505921
Also the part where he distilled hydrogen peroxide at home to make rocket fuel. I think his wife made him stop that.

[Anonymous No.10506117]

>>10506075
lol

[Anonymous No.10506173]

>>10506075
>>10505921
funny he didn't make a NASA sim game or something.

[Anonymous No.10506190]

>>10496170
>Isle Of The Dead or Blake Stone.
did anyone actually play IOTD? it looks and plays like shit IIRC.

Blake Stone: i like it but it's just a skin job of Wolfestein with more colours and weapons.

[Anonymous No.10506235]

>>10496145
>duke nukem 3d
not sure about Halo but Build Engine was very different from DOOM. you gotta thank Ken Silverman for that, a much younger dude who worked for Apogee.
http://advsys.net/ken/build.htm

Build Engine was suppose to compete with iD's Quake Engine but failed.

[Anonymous No.10506441]

>>10505482
>>10505363
can i get an autistic explanation on how hitscan enemies work? also revenant rockets

obviously chaingunners don't have 100% accuracy but i was wondering how they work

fuck revenants, i swear to god, those thing track like a motherfucking hound

[Anonymous No.10506460]

>>10506441
https://youtu.be/f3O9P9x1eCE
https://youtu.be/R1183VuvJ6Q
I thought Decino had a video showing all of the monster stats, but I can't find it.

[Anonymous No.10506494]

Is there even a reason to use nugget instead of woof if I don't care about higher resolutions?

[Anonymous No.10506498]

>>10506494
Do you want the SSG to gib?

[Anonymous No.10506501]

>>10506498
No

[Anonymous No.10506505]

>>10506501
Then probably not. Nugget just has visual options over Woof.

[Anonymous No.10506971]

>>10506190
Blake Stone is underrated but not by that much.

[Anonymous No.10507039]

>>10506971
It mainly has my pity. You can see the guys were trying some neat stuff out in it, it has a decent style, you get what they were doing, but it was just hopelessly outclassed. Can't help but think if it came out even 6 months before Doom, so it had some time to shine, it would have been much more fondly remembered.

[Anonymous No.10507058]

>>10507039
At least we can still play it today. This way it has a kind of life.

[Anonymous No.10507092]

>>10506441
>can i get an autistic explanation on how hitscan enemies work?
So the basic way a hitscan works is when the enemy fires, the weapon traces a trajectory in front of the player and instantly affects whatever the line intersects with first. This differs from a projectile weapon, whose bullets are independent data objects with a known position and speed that the game actively tracks and checks against potential collisions.

Put simply, when a hitscan enemy fires its gun, if it was going to hit you, it hits you at the exact microsecond they fire since there's no projectile to miss and it's more like a lazer. This is the cultists in Blood are so deadly because their guns are all hitscan weapons and they react to you extremely fast which means you don't dodge their shots, they just have to miss you.

[Anonymous No.10507098]

>>10507092
>This is the cultists in Blood
This is why*, I meant

[Anonymous No.10507148]

>playing plutonia for the first time
>one map is literally a maze with 90° turns and like 20 archviles while whimsical music plays in the background
this is fucking deranged. i love it

>>10507092
oh, i understand how hitscan works. i just though they had a x% chance to deal no damage, because i saw quite a lot of them fire and i didn't take damage. apparently they just have a range limit

[Anonymous No.10507192]

>>10507148
They don't fire dead center, there can be a small amount of error to their shots.

[Anonymous No.10507205]

>>10507192
22.5 degrees IIRC, more than what I would consider a "small amount" of error, but that's for the best when large groups of them are involved.

[Anonymous No.10507209]

>>10507205
I was thinking it's only 3 degrees, which will still make a huge difference the further away you get from something. Still technically a percent chance to not get hit, but only because the trace doesn't hit you.

[Anonymous No.10507234]

>>10498368
Aside from Romero's levels being classics, he was also behind a lot of artistic choices for the game.
Carmack is very talented, but has less imagination and creativity than an amoeba and doesn't know how to make a game. He needs a team that can make a good use of his work.

[Anonymous No.10507953]

>>10507234
Artistic creativity, maybe. The Specter and Arch-Vile owe much of their existence to Carmack adding their specific functionalities to the engine and telling the others to make something out of it. I'd also say that he's creative as a programmer, like managing to squeeze Doom out of the Atari Jaguar.

[Anonymous No.10507959]

>>10507953
Programming still requires a creative mind, it's just a different kind of creativity than what an artist would have.

[Anonymous No.10508045]

>>10507953
>80% of programmers tasked with developing for the Atari Jaguar: "Oh dear God why, WHY?!"
>Carmack: "Time to do some programming. Mm" *cracks knuckles* *cracks open a Diet Pepsi*

[Anonymous No.10508407]

>>10497905
What WAD is that?

[Anonymous No.10508419]

Based.

[Anonymous No.10508446]

>>10508407
Eviternity's heaven episode

[Anonymous No.10509197]

>>10507959
This is why every UI designer begs the programmers not to touch the design lol
"Designed by a programmer" is a literal meme

[Anonymous No.10509328]

>>10509197
Figuring out a coding solution is being creative, anon.

[Anonymous No.10509367]

>>10509197
allowing designers to put the grubby hands on things is how we got CSS
total designer death
you will look at the programmer colors and you will like them

[Anonymous No.10509587]

Are there any examples of wads that require completely vanilla to function correctly? Can I just leave the complevel at mbf21 as default?

[Anonymous No.10509735]

>>10509587
99% of all Vanilla .wads should work like they're supposed to in Woof, DSDA, and GzDoom.

Potentially something like the Batman TC could misbehave with clvl21, but that's just an unfounded speculation given how complex of a mod that is, and because it's one of the very few vanilla things which doesn't work in GzDoom.

[Anonymous No.10510218]

>>10509735
Why the fuck would I ever use Woof when Nugget is available.

[Anonymous No.10510227]

>>10510218
Nigger, I don't fucking care about your autistic beef with Woof nor does it have any goddamn bearing on my statement. Close your eyes and pretend that I wrote Nugget instead of Woof if it bothers you so goddamn much.

[Anonymous No.10510374]

I'm on MAP03 of Plutonia and nearly getting filtered by that Archvile spawning behind you near the red keycard
add to that skellies spawning in cramped spaces and fatties camouflaged behind vines

[Anonymous No.10510408]

>>10510218
>Nugget
They use laxative for those

[Anonymous No.10511516]

Doot doot

[Anonymous No.10511525]

[Anonymous No.10511597]

The clay model for the Baron Of Hell.

What Adrian Carmack would do is coat a posable wood art doll in clay, and then sculpt it. Putting it in front of a white screen and lighting it with a spotlight, they'd get shots of all eight directions with the video camera they were using, and that way get a very consistent graphic with a photorealistic kind of lighting.
But oops, the spotlight warms up the clay, and these shitty wood dolls have extremely limited range, so these ad-hoc claymation figures occasionally fell apart when they were using them, requiring repairs (which leads to a few subtle irregularities for some frames).

Overall, though the end results were good, this was really time consuming and bothersome, which is why they hire a professional for an alternative approach.

[Anonymous No.10511643]

>>10511597
how many of those models are still around?

[Anonymous No.10511661]

>>10511643
All of them I think, in a sense. Here's Doomclay, the zombies were all made by recoloring and painting over his finished sprites, essentially.

[Anonymous No.10511701]

>>10511661
neato

[Anonymous No.10512790]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Template:Vr_projects

[Anonymous No.10512952]

beat eviternity II aka eviternity 2
it's ok

[Anonymous No.10513234]

>>10496449
Probably not as annoying as your faggoty pearl clutching over stickies

[Anonymous No.10513605]

Don Ivan Punchatz was the artist they hired to paint the cover for Doom. When he learned of their troubles with their models, he suggested they'd hire his son, who worked with puppets and miniatures for movies and other stuff. So they did.

Gregor Punchatz would sculpt pure clay figures based on Adrian Carmack's design drawings, and then make a casting mold of each of them. With those molds, he sprayed the insides with foam latex, which once dried were fitted to a fully posable steel armature, then the latex skin was painted.
These held up for posing and lighting, but latex being latex, a lot of these skins have rotted and degraded away over the years.

That said, Gregor Punchatz still had the casting molds stashed away in his garage in Texas, and a year or so back he dug them out, cleaned off the dust and spiderwebs, and made models with them which he scanned. He's been working away at modified digital versions of the models as well, and he decided he would make a clay model sculpture based on the demon on the cover art his late father painted so long ago.

[Anonymous No.10513645]

Clay models by Adrian Carmack:
>Doomguy
>Zombies made by retouching, Chaingunner by extensive modifying and retouching
>Baron Of Hell, Hell Knight as a recoloring
>Cyberdemon

Latex skinned models by Gregor Punchatz:
>Spider Mastermind, Arachnotron as a scaled down and retouched variant
>Mancubus
>Revenant (differed significantly from Adrian's original concept, would then also be considerably retouched as the gritty meaty texture did not translate well to a low resolution)
>Arch-Vile
Pictured, unused demon. This design would be reused by Midway for their version of the Pinky in Doom 64.

Other:
>Cacodemon was painted by hand in Deluxe Paint II
>Pain Elemental was based on the Caco, with thickened Imp arms, Cyberdemon horns, and an early Invisibility powerup as a base for the eye, Lost Soul inside its mouth is actually made from the unused frames for a cut "Blob Monster"
>Pinky was painted by hand, would see a considerable redraw using a capture of a Jurassic Park dinosaur toy to reference its legs
>Imp was in part painted by hand, using some of the used and unused Doomguy frames as a base
>Lost Soul was made from a digitized medschool skull model, saw considerable redrawing
>Icon Of Sin was originally a pencil sketch by Adrian, which was used for a texture in the first game, then saw significant editing to make Doom 2's final boss
>SS Trooper was drawn by hand in DP2 by Adrian back during Wolfenstein 3D's development

[Anonymous No.10513664]

Unused and unfinished frame for the Arch-Vile.
One of the things which Gregor Punchatz didn't quite account for was resolution, which is why even though he was faithful to the face which Adrian had drawn, this doesn't convey on the finished sprite.
This results in a more skeletal looking face for the final sprites (which I personally like more than the actual intended design), and this is why the Arch-Vile marble wall relief, which is made from that sketch, doesn't look like the actual sprite.

[Anonymous No.10513679]

Punchatz describes how when he was sculpting out the Arch-Vile, he was doing so while having the movie Pumpkinhead playing on VHS in the background, and I'd say that the inspiration for the Arch-Vile's body is telling.

A quirk on the Arch-Vile is that his lower legs are actually too short for his body, which Punchatz said he regrets, and the reworked digital model instead has digitigrade legs much like Pumpkinhead here, but I think the awkward anatomy works in their favor. The Archie is by far the spookiest monster design in the entire series, he's sinister, weird, and fast.

[Anonymous No.10513685]

A somewhat better resolution promotional shot of the Arch-Vile model, showing off its face.

[Anonymous No.10514935]

>>10513664
So it doesn't have a penis? I thought it did.

[Anonymous No.10515081]

How the Revenant looked before they decided to retouch him. The detailed meaty texture doesn't translate well at the game's resolution, so they opt to repaint him to a more bare skeleton.

>>10514935
There exists a mod which makes the demons more anatomically correct, so to say. It fucking cheats though and they didn't bother drawing a huge dong for the Cyberdemon, so it's not as funny as you'd think.

[Anonymous No.10515092]

>>10515081
So the Revenants were originally skinny demons instead of skeletons? That's cooler than the silly skeleton design they settled on.

[Anonymous No.10515097]

>>10515092
Skeletons are awesome though.

[Anonymous No.10515123]

>>10515081
>a huge dong for the Cyberdemon
The cyberdemon has a cloaca. Look at the DOOM II box art.

[Anonymous No.10515284]

>>10515092
It's more that they were meaty skeletons, the notion was always that they were something reanimated (hence the name). The initial sketch on paper here is a tall and lanky fuck with armor and both an SSG and whatever this gun arm is.
At some point they decide on giving him a skull head instead, and with the model not quite working out, they retouch him to a plain skeleton with some gore on him.

[Anonymous No.10515305]

>>10515092
I recall Romero said that he really wanted something like the Revenant in the game because he though it would be funny as fuck, whether he meant the original concept or what it turned into, I don't know.

Pic related is two closeup shots of the actual model, which is at display at iD's office, among some other stuff like this. The armor piece is absent in photos some time after the release of Doom 2, and has been that way for a long time, I'm not sure if it broke or they lost it or whatever.
I think the big skeleton covered in gore and veins like this is actually a pretty cool design, but this kind of fine detail is difficult to translate and convey at the intended scale and resolution, so I can see why they just painted over it.

[Anonymous No.10515309]

>>10515305

[Anonymous No.10515315]

>>10515284
The original Revenant looks like it could be the origin of Eternal's Marauder

[Anonymous No.10515612]

[Anonymous No.10515709]

Doom boomer here. After 25 years gap just put on GZDoom with Cheello's Doom Voxel Mod.
Life is good, first episode done, looks beautiful. Always missing one or two secrets.
Also tfw still remember all the cheatcodes (not that I need them anymore)

[Anonymous No.10516647]

>>10496260
Hehe.
Funny gif.

[Anonymous No.10516667]

>>10496525
It's actually quite decent. If anything, the beginning may be a little slow.

[Anonymous No.10516675]

>>10497149
what the shit?!

[Anonymous No.10516690]

>>10516675
What you're looking at is a 3d Sonic game made in the Doom engine.
Yes, it is good. Yes, it shits all over the majority of all 3d sonic games Sega has released in the last 20 years.